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Contents 1 Bot 2 The whole mess at the village pump 3 History of Tibet Page 4 FallingRain 5 Statistics 6 Re: Bot 7 Dabbing question 8 Beaurocracy is the suck 9 Non-specific links to Encarta 10 Refinement 11 Como estas mi querido amigo? 12 Project 13 Straw poll... 14 Exciting find? 15 Re: Hi 16 Gestiès 17 Response 18 Adding 19 Re: bot 20 Badakhshan map from the UN 21 Burkina 22 One question 23 Bot 24 Retalhuleu 25 Re: Bot 26 Thank you 27 Translation 28 American Samoa dab check 29 Straw Poll 30 Small nitpick 31 Just passing through.... 32 Re: Biru Goshu 33 Bradt 34 Editing 35 Burkina Faso Departments 36 G-r-e-a-t :) 37 Notability of Bob Burns (drummer) 38 Playa Zancudo 39 Irony 40 Sorry... but exams are near 41 RE: Vandals 42 AfD nomination of Ahar rug 43 American Samoa 44 Orphaned non-free media (Image:EastwoodBacktotheFutureIII.jpg) 45 What happened?? 46 Oh 47 Orphaned non-free media (Image:Lequaidesbrumes.jpg) 48 Speedy deletion of Image:ErnestTorrence.jpg 49 AfD nomination of Zaket 50 WP:MOS? 51 Bot approval 52 Missing articles 53 Delighted? 54 Atnafu Abate pictures 55 Gerd Bucerius‎ 56 !!!!!! 57 Request 58 I'll keep my eyes peeled... 59 Re: Chie Kajiura 60 Cease editing/dabbing lists 61 Orphaned non-free media (Image:TheBridgeofSanLuisRey1929.jpg) 62 Barnstar 63 Proposed deletion of Yavarzan 64 Burkina 65 hi! 66 Galagedara 67 Burkina tip 68 Geobot 69 Burkina Faso, stub proposals 70 Re 71 Image tagging for Image:Cartouche62.jpg 72 Consultation 73 Afghan links...

[edit] Bot

[edit] The whole mess at the village pump

The whole thing is a monument to ignorance. I wish people would accept the plain facts that there are millions of articles missing and that a bot would be the easiest course of action. It is wholly supervised and approved so why do we have all this discussion? I would continue dabbing Azerbaijan but with the way this is going, I really don't see much of a point. I'm an Editorofthewiki^{[citation needed]} 13:46, 1 June 2008 (UTC)

I second this. The way that certain "members of the community" (not editors) have approached this proposal is an absolute disgrace. The bot should run anyway—it has been approved and a good majority are supporting it. EJF (talk) 13:51, 1 June 2008 (UTC)

Way it is going? 50 people have shown their strong support. The bot has been approved, I shouldn't worry too much about it, its not the first example of people overreacting. Some people may not like it but either way it will be done. We have to plant seeds for this site to grow so don't let this fracas bother you. I've devoted to much time to this already today, just continue, I'll try to do the same but it is a little off putting I agree. What I fail to understand is why people think wikipedia which strives to be th best referenc epoint on the web should ignore 95% of the world that we live in. ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ ^$1,000,000? 13:53, 1 June 2008 (UTC)

Okay, then when the bot gets to Azerbaijan we will have to manually add all this. But right now, I will be going through Afghanistan and adding the district names to the articles the bot has already uploaded. But people don't know how much is missing, since they see the article on the town they live in looks pretty decent so they settle down at the AN and, well, you remember my famous quote at Fritzpoll's RFA. I'm an Editorofthewiki^{[citation needed]} 14:00, 1 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] History of Tibet Page

Thanks for your encouraging note. I am trying to do a bit at a time while I am on this trip - but family affairs are taking up most of my time at the moment. Yes, it is truly difficult to condense the historical data without making it meaningless or leaving oneself open for a great deal of criticism. While doing my last edit it suddenly occured to me that the way to handle possible criticism of a condensed section might be to give a longer explanation on the Talk page (which I have done). I've also inserted the same note on 'serfdom' on the Tibet page and the People's Liberation Army invasion of Tibet (1950–1951) page. We'll see how this works. Hope you are well and happy. Vancouver is a treat at the moment - sunny weather (!!!!!!!!!!!) and the gardens are absolutely spectacular. Cheers, John Hill (talk) 17:04, 1 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] FallingRain

I thought that only the population was unreliable. How do youknow the altitude is the same? I'm an Editorofthewiki^{[citation needed]} 19:00, 1 June 2008 (UTC)

Well of course that could be possible, and with Kushgag it certainly seems plausible. Do you have another reference that contradicts what FallingRain says (since there are many in the population department). I'm an Editorofthewiki^{[citation needed]} 19:11, 1 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Statistics

I admire the dedication you are putting into the proposal to generate place stubs by bot, and I basically support this. It is just a question of getting the scale right. I noticed you recently suggested that this might only involve adding "thousands" of articles, rather than between 1 and 2 million, as the size of the dataset suggests. If "thousands" means less than 200000 then I would probably support, but I think we need some statistics on city size to make the right decision about the scale.

What would be most useful is a graph of city size by rank, i.e., a graph of the population of a city against its position in a list of all cities by size, starting with the largest. Then we would know, for instance, how many articles we need to have to cover every place with a population of 10000 or more, or every place with a population of 1000 or more...

I did some web research, and it seems that the evidence is that this graph is approximately a log-normal distribution, but I wasn't able to find exactly the data we need. You seem to have some expertise on the information out there. Can you find any such statistics? Geometry guy 19:53, 1 June 2008 (UTC)

I replied on my talk page to your response, and looked again at this 2007 article, which is the most reliable source I found with relevant information. The US data suggests that in a population of 304 million:

• population 100+ requires 20-25000 articles, 1000+ requires 10000 articles, and 10000+ requires 4000 articles.

If this scales linearly with population then worldwide,

• population 100+ requires 500000 articles, 1000+ requires 200000 articles, and 10000+ requires 80000 articles.

(Actually a factor 20 is a slight underestimate as 20 times 304 million is less than 6.7 billion.) However, the US is one of the most urbanized countries in the world, so the linear scaling is almost certainly inaccurate. This would seem to be consistent with the 1-2 million worldwide dataset. Based on this, I would guess that worldwide

• population 100+ requires around 1 million articles, 1000+ requires at most 200000 articles, and 10000+ requires maybe 50000 articles.

That suggests to me that using 1000+ population as a first approximation to inclusion in the scheme would keep the number of articles in the range 100-200 thousand. Geometry guy 21:06, 1 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Re: Bot

Why can't you edit at the Pump? Was it because of my momentary page-protection? You should be able to edit it now. -- llywrch (talk) 19:59, 1 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Dabbing question

User:Fritzpoll directed me to you on this question, saying that you'd likely be better to answer it. I'd like to help out with Wikipedia:WikiProject Missing encyclopedic articles/Places, but I'm trying to make sure I know exactly what I'm supposed to do before I get started, and I had a few questions. How do we deal with places that have the same name, but in different countries? Since the lists are by country, how would we know that there were other potential place article (currently red-linked) in existance? Also, do you have an example (or more than one) of the kind of disambiguation that should happen? I looked through a few of the lists trying to find one, but wasn't able to. I think that will help with some of my understanding. Thanks -- Natalya 21:47, 1 June 2008 (UTC)

Okay, things are getting clearer - thanks for the explanation. So, if there is a blue-linked page, but goes to a different settlement, we should rename the settlements appropriately, and make the blue-linked page a disambiguation page? (This is what I took away from Andar, but do let me know if I've got that wrong). If that is true, if there are multiple red-linked places by the same name, should we go ahead and create a disambiguation page, and rename all the different red-links appropriately? -- Natalya 12:16, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

Cool - that makes sense. For the second part of the question, though, if there are multiple red-linked places by the same name, should we go ahead and create a disambiguation page, and rename all the different red-links appropriately (so that they all remain red-links but there is a blue-linked disambiguation page for them)? -- Natalya 12:23, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

Great! Thanks for the clarifications! -- Natalya 12:31, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

I took piano through most of grade school too. My skills definitly laxed after I stopped taking lessons, but I still have a good time dabbling around (and, like, working on one piece for the past two years :D). That's great that you're still playing. -- Natalya 12:48, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

The cello is beautiful! One of my greatest regrets (well, not really greatest, but I do regret it) is that I played it for like three years when I was like 8, and then stopped. Now whenever I see/hear people playing the cello, I wish that I still played. :) So it goes, though! Music in general is great - I like that it's something that [almost] everyone likes in one form or another, because there are so many different kinds. -- Natalya 12:57, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

Very cool! -- Natalya 13:13, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

That was really nice. For relaxing music, I really enjoy putting all of Enya's music on shuffle. -- Natalya 17:34, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Beaurocracy is the suck

Hey, sorry I did not reply earlier, I got a bit tired and went to sleep and when I woke up I see the discussion at the village pump has absolutelly exploded :s. I am beginning to feel a bit annoyed but again we can't help that people will be disagreeing. That is exactly right, I wish people actually focused creating of articles and not just discuss discuss discuss about random things that they do not care about. People are afraid of change I think. :/. Anyway I have made contact with WP:Afghanista, central asia and sout east asia about both the wikiproject and the village pump discussion. Hopefully that will help. I am considering advising a lot of the wikiprojects about this in advance (for example a lot of the african ones) any thoughts? Calaka (talk) 01:34, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

Darn... Well I suppose any response will be better than no response and there will hopefully be someone who glances at the wikiproject talkpages. Tonight when I am a bit more free I will make contact with a number of country wikiproject related to country and ask them to support the cause. I figure those with a background from lets say Bulgaria, will be more happy about their towns and villages of being created than someone born in a western style country. Anyway I will also advise them that the project hasent started yet and is a long way away, and that after 3 days (as Fritz suggested a time out on the village pump) there will be more activity. Calaka (talk) 09:24, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for agreeing with me. I tried my best and I would have kept on going but the bell rang and Fritz asked for a 72 hour pause. I guess we will wait for him to see what his response will be and then a whole set of discussion will eventuate at the village pump. Hopefully this will not discourage people to continue on with the dabbing of the articles or even Fritz himself (i.e. hopefully he will continue uploading the lists onto the country pages so that there is more time for dabbing to occur.

In another note, may I propose (which I suspect is what the solution to most of the oppositions will be and what Fritz is going to say in 72 hours) is to somehow (with finding more references) include more information per article for the bot to add on. I suspect many will argue at the one sentence article even if it has a map, geo, location etc etc but with a paragraph (or 5-6 sentences) they will find it harder to argue against. Cheers!Calaka (talk) 09:55, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

Exactly! This is a wikipedia! Things will change and get updated all the time!! Many articles have started of as being one liners and have slowly moved their way to the top. They will not stay static I am sure of it!Calaka (talk) 09:59, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

My dad always says: "You need to design and build the foundation, before you build the house." :). Anyway I shall be away for several hours (probably 2/3 AM wikipedia time) as I unfortunately have a lot of study to do (revision for exams you see;) ). When I am feeling a bit tired I shall go on to contact all of the wikiprojects involved. Cheers Bio!Calaka (talk) 10:15, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

I got tired from all the study early and have decided to head on with my task of contacting all of the relevant wikiprojects. I just noticed though that fritz has made a new refined page and I will hold of contacting all the wikiprojects if you want? I will wait for your (or Fritz) response. Cheers!Calaka (talk) 12:29, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Non-specific links to Encarta

Regarding the controversy about the non-specific links to Encarta made by FritzpollBot, I see that many of your articles (at a rough estimate, about a thousand?) have also included these links: see [1]. As has been said elsewhere, these links are of no encyclopedic value, because they do not lead to any specific resource. Could you please fix these, or remove them? -- The Anome (talk) 11:08, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Refinement

User:Fritzpoll/Refinement - take a look and comment on its talk page, please Fritzpoll (talk) 11:55, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

Village pump archived and updated Fritzpoll (talk) 13:52, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Como estas mi querido amigo?

) Shahid • ^Talk2me 12:20, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Project

Already suggested this to Fritz, but the thing to do would probably be to add a clear, detailed description of how to generate the lists at Wikipedia:WikiProject Missing encyclopedic articles/Places and then send a message to each of the national/territorial projects indicating that the lists are being created and that their input in creating them would be very welcome. Getting the extant projects involved is probably the best way to go. John Carter (talk) 14:21, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Straw poll...

I tried removing it earlier, and it go added back in - at least for the moment, life is a lot calmer than it was yesterday. Let's let them have their poll, and not lose the argument by fighting over how th argument is fought Fritzpoll (talk) 16:46, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

BoS and Fritz: I was the one that added the straw poll back in. I added it because this proposal is significantly different and improved. Only the "totally oppose" part of the straw poll is expected to have unchanged votes. davidwr/(talk)/(contribs)/(e-mail) 16:59, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

No, when I thought about it, I think it probaly is the only way to organise the discussion. I think Blofeld and I were just a bit wary given what happened yesterday. I think it's fair to say we were both a bit poll-shy by the end of it. That's why I didn't press the point, and why I reverted BoS' edit Fritzpoll (talk) 17:02, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Exciting find?

Not sure how useful this is [2] but it seems to be available here Fritzpoll (talk) 16:49, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Re: Hi

Hey, sure, come on in. :) I realize that is would be extremely diffucult for editors to write the same thousands to millions of articles the bot is proposing. There are many good points, and the bot would be helpful in many ways, but I have to consider the possible drawbacks. For example, a backlog of CSD, AFD, Newpages, etc. I just feel that it is not a good idea to take the human factor out of writing articles, as a bot may produce articles with poor writing, copy vios, and such. I'm not saying this is an entirely bad idea, but that's just my opinion. The new, improved proposal is much better than the original one, so I might end up supporting it before it's done. Also, you should feel free to join in at the village pump, as everybody should have their right to an opinion. Cheers, Juliancolton ^{Tropical Cyclone}

Heh. Those are some good points. As long as the bot has some kind of limit as to how large a location has to be before creating an article, I might support the proposal. Best, Juliancolton ^{Tropical Cyclone} 18:49, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Gestiès

I know, it's a shame that some people just can't grasp it. I prefer the original bot proposal, I think the new one may introduce extra bureaucracy which could stifle the article creation; the director of Wikimedia UK supported the initial proposal as well as 100 editors, it's a shame it had to be given up. Are we going to continue dabbing the FritzpollBot pages? I'm looking at the Wikimedia Commons for Burkina photos, looks like I'll just have to go back to improving Burkina articles if too much red tape is added to the new proposal. EJF (talk) 19:12, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

Yeah. The idea of concensus begins to seem like fitting in the ideas ofpeople who have no experiance with these things. Ah well, I guess the bot won't be much of a help after all, and Burkina is the place to go. I'm an Editorofthewiki^{[citation needed]} 19:43, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

The proposal isn't actually that much different, to be honest. Mostly, with the original discussion, we never got a chance to make our case because the whole thing kicked off without us. The community had some legitimate concerns. The new proposal largely restates what the intention was - human checking of extracted data. The data will just be of higher quality, and we'll get more done straight off. The community just needs to hash out an idea of how to handle notability, and it is doing a good job - this discussion is much less divisive and much less "us vs. them". The bot will be as useful as it was before, and more useful for the acquisition of extra data to populate the articles with. Don't write it off just because we're being slightly limited from the original proposal Fritzpoll (talk) 12:00, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Response

I did read your comments, but didn't have anything much to say in response. Please don't take my inarticulate failings as apathy. Tim Vickers (talk) 21:19, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Adding

It isn't that much work by hand to add them - I managed as an experiment to see how long it would take to fill out a couple of California counties with data from the GNIS - about 40 or so per hour new articles can be created - just populate templates via spreadsheets or word (consider it a mass mailing and the word processor knows what to do). Carlossuarez46 (talk) 00:33, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

• the problem that hasn't been resolved is how to catch dab requirements between countries. Too much data to dump all together and process for most of us. Carlossuarez46 (talk) 00:34, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Re: bot

OK, I've changed my opinion. I hope the bot is put to good use, and will free up your time for more productive endeavours. Biruitorul ^Talk 06:27, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Badakhshan map from the UN

Here's a nice source created by the UN, doesn't have population figures, but perhaps somebody at the UN does? Phlegm Rooster (talk) 11:11, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Burkina

Yeah I'll do some now, I should be on for an hour or two, maybe more I don't know. I'm starting to feel ready again to start editing after the village pump disaster – I can't believe people are still opposing in droves, even after the watering-down of the proposal... but anyway... I'll sort out the Burkina Faso region articles and then perhaps do some more of the provinces or cities. EJF (talk) 13:04, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

Thanks, it is very much appreciated number 1! But thank you and Editorofthewiki for putting in a tremendous effort so that Burkina Faso articles have got to where they are today! I'm finding some good images for each region so every region article should I hope have an image, I'm not so sure about the provinces though. Best regards, EJF (talk) 14:06, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

• Also, like I said, I can tag the talk pages of these articles. :) Just give me a list and I'll get it done :D Steve Crossin (talk)(email) 14:10, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

• Replied on my talk page. Steve Crossin (talk)(email) 14:19, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

Okay, I will start with Category:Cities, towns and villages in Burkina Faso, using {{AfricaProject|class=stub|importance=low}}. Would that work for you? I just want to be sure that I won't make any errors, and that there aren't any suprises. I'll discuss a way to see if I can have the plugin for my bot (my bot uses AWB) assess the larger articles as higher than stub, but if you could auto add the new articles to a category, such as Category:Afghanistan geography stubs, that would be really helpful. I'll await a reply before starting the task. Steve Crossin (talk)(email) 14:32, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] One question

Regarding this What would happen to categories like Category:Nagpur ? Will these be removed too? I think this category is very helpful to gather all article related to the city. I can use template but categories have there own advantages. --gppande «talk» 16:11, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Bot

Stating that the bot would add an infobox to each existing populated location if it doesn't already have one might be a good idea. A lot of these arguments seem to be about "inherent notability", which is basically irrelevant. Ryan in particular seems to be indicating that there is no claim for inherent notability, despite the fact that, I have to assume, the local newspapers provide sufficient enough coverage for notability to be established. And, at this point, I wouldn't try to add any such articles manually, while the discussion is going on, without sources because it is possible that the guideline/policy regarding notability of places might change as a result of the discussion, and the articles might, potentially, not qualify under the changed guidelines. My best guess would be to just continue making the lists of places, and then wait for the discussion to finish. John Carter (talk) 17:14, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

Lots of things still don't have articles, believe me. Look at the talk pages of the various Christianity projects for all the Christian churches (organizations, not buildings), that don't have articles yet. The book I have has about 1500 entries, and I've gotten as far as #8, with only one of them already having an article, Roman Catholic Church. John Carter (talk) 17:34, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Retalhuleu

As with your edit to Dangriga a while back, the red dot in Retalhuleu is misplaced. It seems to be marking a spot in Escuintla (department), while the city is actually located in Retalhuleu (department). DO56 (talk) 20:27, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Re: Bot

I've manually added infoboxes to several Ethiopian settlement articles, but intentionally have not added them to Stub-class articles. I feel that leaving them off of those will serve as an incentive to improve them -- as well as appease the anti-infobox school. (This group does exist.) -- llywrch (talk) 20:45, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for your praise of my work on Ethiopian settlement articles. Sometimes I wonder if anyone notices -- although I find people from within Ethiopia occasionally will make edits to their own home town. ;) -- llywrch (talk) 00:35, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

Was your clarification on my Talk page about this comment? If so, I was responding to the fellow you were responding to -- D. Trebbien; sorry that I was unclear. If not, then I don't know what you are talking about. -- llywrch (talk) 16:02, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Thank you

Just a quick word to say "thank you" for your kind words that you left me on my talk page, they are much appreciated. Seth Whales (talk) 22:53, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Translation

A cursory glance indicates that both look OK, although I tweaked the latter a little; the Cortina article could use a little polishing, and I'll try and get on with that as soon as I have a chance. --User:AlbertHerring ^{Io son l'orecchio e tu la bocca: parla!} 23:54, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] American Samoa dab check

Hey there! I did a bit of a check of the American Samoa list and I had 5 places for you to check out (I placed them at the top here: Wikipedia:WikiProject Missing encyclopedic articles/Places/american samoa). Not too sure what to do with the first 2, i.e. whether to merge them as one, or have them seperate, and for the last 3... I am not sure where to locate or find the info to see if the 3 are in fact distinguiashable or the same. If they are different, feel free to disambiguate them :D. I gather that American Samoa will be the first country to go on with the utilisation of the bot? Did you want me to notify WP:Samoa (if there is in fact such a project)? Cheers!Calaka (talk) 11:09, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

Ah that makes sense. Then they can be seperate articles in my opinion. I am still unsure of how to name them, but hopefully you will be able to work out something.

Oh and sorry but I did not understand what you meant by this: Feel free to start on Anguilla,?Calaka (talk) 11:32, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

I am shocked! Such a big city did not have a wikipedia article just a few days ago! You should put that at the start of the discussion. How can they possibly say no to that!! I was getting a bit worried a day or so ago and was thinking that Fritz was just going to close shop and forget about the entire thing due to the amount of opposition present in the discussion! Calaka (talk) 11:53, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

Exactly right. I personally don't think a limit should be in place in terms of popultion size. I mean, I do not imagine there to be a large population of all of the articles in the American Samoa places but I still think they will be great to have. But yeah, no mater what you do, you will always have a handful of individuals that oppose.

Anyway I was going to post the message on to the various wikiprojects (samoa, american samoa, and polynesia) but it appears that they are not particularly active and samoa/american samoa might need to be merged into polynesia. I suppose I can make the message there (at wp:polynesia) for anyone that is interested to have a look.

Oh and I personally don't think getting a new wikiproject will be a good thing? I do not object it but maybe it is fine as a small task grouop of the missing encyclopedia wikiproject? That is of course up to you and fritzpoll to decide (and anyone else who has great backing for this project). Cheers!Calaka (talk) 12:40, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

Ah even better idea! *thumbs up* Calaka (talk) 12:49, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Straw Poll

Hi Blofeld. Really, i wasn't meaning anything like badgering that revert; actually, i agree with what you say, it just doesn't seem right to change what people appear to be agreeing with. As an aside, on the whole Fritzpollbot issue, i suspect we are probably closer in opinion than you might have thought from my previous comments. Anyway, no offense intended at any point. Cheers, Lindsay 12:38, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Small nitpick

Probably not important, but shouldn't it be called "new task force" instead of "new wikiproject" as technically it will be under WP:cities? Calaka (talk) 15:06, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Just passing through....

Work is hectic for the next 24-48 hours. Just thought I'd let you know, and I'll tag my pages with the Wikibreak sign. Feel free to respond to my talkpage messages on my behalf! Fritzpoll (talk) 15:06, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Re: Biru Goshu

I have several history books on Ethiopia; I've sunk quite a few dollars into collecting them.:) Do a search on "Birru Goshu" in Wikipedia; he's one of many people whose articles I've been meaning to write when I can nail down the time. (Others include Wube Haile Mariam, Ras Alula, & Dr Charles Martin aka Warqenah Eshate). -- llywrch (talk) 17:00, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

Remember two things about collecting research materials: (1) Interlibrary Loan is very useful, if not critical; & (2) never be afraid to photocopy an entire book (just don't tell anyone that you have done this.;) -- llywrch (talk) 17:13, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Bradt

Hi Blofeld, I'm just on for a few minutes this evening. Sure, I'm very busy at the moment but I could buy one, possibly Niger - I guess its coverage would be the worst on Wikipedia? Regards, EJF (talk) 18:03, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

What is the name of the book you bought? I'll see what I can do. I'm an Editorofthewiki^{[citation needed]} 19:08, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

Sorry. The only travel guides I have are this one on Costa Rice (which is pretty decently sized) and this one on Austria (which is kinda small, but may be okay. I'll see what I can do about obtaining that anyway. By the way, I am an American. What are you, English or Welsh? I'm an Editorofthewiki^{[citation needed]} 19:21, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

Plus an interesting site you might want to check out is http://www.allafrica.com I'm an Editorofthewiki^{[citation needed]} 19:23, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Editing

I'm doing what I can, when I can. Work is taking over some, and today I haven't had time because I was on a job interview. But I may be able to do some more later today, maybe tomorrow. --User:AlbertHerring ^{Io son l'orecchio e tu la bocca: parla!} 19:24, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

Really? Hadn't meant to seem that way. Overworked, perhaps - a little frazzled, sure. But I'm actually happy to be on the way out, even if it's taking longer than I'd hoped.

Thanks all the same for the kind words, tho'. --User:AlbertHerring ^{Io son l'orecchio e tu la bocca: parla!} 19:32, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Burkina Faso Departments

Hi. I took a look at the Burkina Faso Department articles. They look great. Keep up the good work. --Acntx (talk) 19:29, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

I did half of them... I'm an Editorofthewiki^{[citation needed]} 19:30, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

Burkina Faso Departments. No, I will try to find the books somewhere, hopefully by tommorrow. For now I'll have to be content with my Costa Rica guide. I'm an Editorofthewiki^{[citation needed]} 19:34, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] G-r-e-a-t :)

Amazing work. It makes me feel so good everytime I see you doing what you are best skilled to do on here. It's a super pleasant watch. Sorry for my frequency of visits. Very busy really... :( Shahid • ^Talk2me 21:33, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Notability of Bob Burns (drummer)

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[edit] Playa Zancudo

450 inhabitants. You tell me, speedy or DYK? I'm an Editorofthewiki^{[citation needed]} 23:04, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Irony

I find it somewhat ironic that you were critical of a stub I created that subsequently sat dormat for 15 months before I expanded it, and yet you are now advocating creation of many many thousands of stubs that will likely suffer the same fate. — Andrwsc (talk · contribs) 23:28, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Sorry... but exams are near

Sorry to leave you guys from the project like this. But I will not be able to contribute at all until the 26th of June. I got exams up and running and I will be off wikipedia completelly. Hopefully you guys will have done a great deal by then and when I am back on that date I can help with the dabbing of more and more pages :). Don't worry about what anyone says! Those pages are notable and this bot does deserve to run! Keep up the great work dude! Kind regards.Calaka (talk) 01:41, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] RE: Vandals

The first one was blocked by the time I got there, and the second hasn't edited beyond his final warning for the edit to the television presenter (which didn't seem to malicious itself). It would actually be quicker to use WP:AIV because more than one admin patrol thats, I was asleep :) SGGH ^speak! 06:28, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] AfD nomination of Ahar rug

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[edit] American Samoa

The population by village (from 2000 census) is available at the American Samoa DoC as a pdf (pp 8-10, it's about 800K). How should I add it to Wikipedia:WikiProject Missing encyclopedic articles/Places/american samoa, if this is appropriate? Ben--Bsnowball (talk) 10:24, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

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[edit] What happened??

May I ask the reason for the wikibreak...? -- TinuCherian ^{(Wanna Talk?)} - 06:33, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

If he is on a wikibreak then he obviously can't tell you why he is in the first place. I'm an Editorofthewiki^{[citation needed]} 03:39, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

C'mon don't hassle him, he deserves a break probably more than anyone... have a nice break Blofeld! :) Al Tally ^talk 00:51, 9 June 2008 (UTC)

Welcome back :) -- TinuCherian ^{(Wanna Talk?)} - 14:14, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

Just noticed the note above.. Take care and get well soon -- TinuCherian ^{(Wanna Talk?)} - 14:17, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Oh

Are you taking a wikibreak? I'm supposed to do that LOL!!! Talk to me when you're back. Shahid • ^Talk2me 09:47, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

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[edit] AfD nomination of Zaket

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[edit] WP:MOS?

I've just fixed a couple of articles to read "southeastern" instead of "south-eastern". After seeing several with the hyphen, I paused, and I'm beginning to wonder if the Brits use a hyphen? I've always typed it/seen it in American bastardized English as a compound word with no hyphen, and I can't find a reference anywhere that shows allowances for a hyphen. What do you Brits usually write? (I'm asking you because, well, you rock, and also because I just fixed it on to GEO articles that you've edited...heh. Keeper | 76 | Disclaimer 22:11, 9 June 2008 (UTC)

I use a hyphen (I'm a Brit). Al Tally ^talk 22:17, 9 June 2008 (UTC)

That's enough evidence for me. I'll stop removing it on British articles or neutral articles (I think I only changed one or two on neutral grounds). As far as I'm aware, us Westerners use a compound word. Thanks Maj, Keeper | 76 | Disclaimer 22:21, 9 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Bot approval

The decision is in Wikipedia:Village pump (proposals)/FritzpollBot, and the go-ahead has been authorized. Thought you'd like to know. John Carter (talk) 00:53, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

YAY. I'm an Editorofthewiki^{[citation needed]} 00:54, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

YAY X 2. Time to go crazy!!!!! (Just kidding -- of course I mean "time to add the world to Wikiepedia")....:-) Keeper | 76 | Disclaimer 01:02, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

Yes......Time to rock ! -- TinuCherian ^{(Wanna Talk?)} - 03:46, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Missing articles

I personally think the Missing encyclopedic articles project is the logical parent. What I'm going to try to do is run through the various geographical sources I have and just, basically, check off those which seem to qualify as having sufficient content to merit separate articles. Then, as I indicated to Fritz, we can try to figure out the locations of any that don't seem to qualify for separate articles and add at least their names and descriptions to the extant articles. Also, clearly, I'm going to expect that we have "List of X in Y" for virtually every field. I do think the smaller countries might be the best way to start, though, so if nothing else we can more quickly review the output and see if there are any bugs. I would hate to find out that there was an unexpected bug out there which affected all the articles on China and India created, and giving it the chance to "iron out" any such errors on the smaller runs sounds reasonable. John Carter (talk) 14:15, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Delighted?

Sorry to hear you're ill, but hopefully the news about the bot has cheered you up a little! We'll get to work doing the boring bureaucratic bits and some of the less exciting planning, and it'll all be ready for you when you get back. Get well soon Fritzpoll (talk) 14:27, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Atnafu Abate pictures

Hi (er, do you prefer to be addressed as "Blofeld", "Mr Blofeld", "His Evilness", or simply "Bald Guy"?) -- The first link you gave me didn't work (I figure it was due to some kind of copy prevention hack), & I had to do some research to identify him in the second. In the later case, he was the fellow on the right, with the broad nose; in the middle is Tafari Benti & on the left is Mengistu. If the first picture came from gettyimages.com, or has a "JAMD" watermark on it (it was the first one in the results image.google.com threw up), then the three men are standing in the same order. (If not, that seems to be the best one I've found on the Internet so far.) But mentioning "gettyimages.com" leads back to the main reason I tend not to add images to my articles: I don't want the hassle over politically correct licenses. Yes, one could argue Fair Use applies in this case -- especially since Ethiopian copyright law is a vast unknown -- but the political commissars in this case could argue that a free image could be obtained in this case & have it deleted. :-(

As for the Ethiopia articles -- when you & Fritzpoll can use my material, let me know & I'll send it to you. It will take a day or two to remove the material for existing articles & put the rest in order. (Especially if you want it in finished format.) Get well soon. -- llywrch (talk) 16:53, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

PS -- "Atnafu" is his name; "Abate" is his father's name. Ethiopian custom is to add the father's name after the individual's name -- which always trips people up who don't know the practice. -- llywrch (talk) 16:55, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

You're awesome. Get well soon (and this is a demand). PS How do you like 1992 Nicaragua earthquake which I just created on the 6th and just passed GA and List of heads of state of Gabon, which I completely rewrote and is currently at FLC? I'm an Editorofthewiki^{[citation needed]} 17:16, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

Yes 1972 is certainly GA-worthy.However it should be noted that one of the best baseball (it's like cricket you know) players of all, Roberto Clemente, was killed in a relief effor of the earthquake. I would love for the new WP:WikiProject Earthquakes to get all developed like the tropical cyclone project. But right now I'm off to work on Burkina Faso. Don't worry, I have horrid allergies too! I'm an Editorofthewiki^{[citation needed]} 17:27, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

The funny thing about Otto is that he was mentioned in this discussion about whether notability spans geographic boundaries. As I usually do, I was simply trolling around the 'pedia and noticed it. I decided to take the incentive though User:Aylad, who started the discussion, deserves credit too. It's actually quite scary that I was able to dig up any English language sources on him, considering he was from Indonesia. I'm an Editorofthewiki^{[citation needed]} 17:37, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

Yes I actually already knew about that site. It just is so demanding continually writing DYK?s, working on William Tubman and Hell's Gate National Park, and ontop of that trying to beat the bot on Burkina. And then there's French cantons and communes... I'm an Editorofthewiki^{[citation needed]} 17:44, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

I thought It was 1996 but I corrected it. Also, in the absese of your suggestion I think Daribiti (13°20′N 1°27′W) would be an a[ppropriate name. I'm an Editorofthewiki^{[citation needed]} 18:09, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

No-I thought I had been using that paramater since you last reminded me. Have I not? I'm an Editorofthewiki^{[citation needed]} 20:39, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

Wait-I know what it was. I was using they imagesize= parameter, not the pushpin mapsize=. Sorry about that. I'm an Editorofthewiki^{[citation needed]} 20:49, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Gerd Bucerius‎

Thanks for the image - wouldn't have thought to look for it myself. Sorry to hear about your allergies; I hope they clear up soon! --User:AlbertHerring ^{Io son l'orecchio e tu la bocca: parla!} 18:01, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

Thanks. I've been trying to knock out a few over the past couple of days. --User:AlbertHerring ^{Io son l'orecchio e tu la bocca: parla!} 18:15, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit]  !!!!!!

!?!?!?!? Shahid • ^Talk2me 19:20, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

I'm OK. How dare you taking a wikibreak without notifying me before? You have no right! I will sue you!!! :) Without you it feels kinda weird being here... I missed you!!!!! Where had you been? And why are you taking a WB? Shahid • ^Talk2me 19:25, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

Oh I miss so much creating articles on films - my favourite work on Wikipedia... I quite understand you. But is it the only reason you wanted to stay away for a while? Or you're busy in real life? Shahid • ^Talk2me 19:37, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

I think everybody has to be loco at times!!! And to be quite honest, if trying to living your life to the fullest is considered being loco -- I wish all we people were locos as she is. Shahid • ^Talk2me 19:45, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Request

I'll get to it presently. Question: why are we omitting about 1/2 of the Afghanistani places available at GNS? Carlossuarez46 (talk) 21:20, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

Thanks! Carlossuarez46 (talk) 21:58, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] I'll keep my eyes peeled...

I got your query. Thanks for the vote of confidence. I do come across that kind of information. But I haven't been making particular note of it.

NGOs and "Provincial Reconstruction Teams" might be good sources, in English.

Meanwhile I will keep my eyes peeled for it.

Cheers! Geo Swan (talk) 21:38, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Re: Chie Kajiura

I meant to update the cat and apparently, forgot :) --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk} 21:46, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

Well, I don't know Japanese - I translate from Polish usually. I hope somebody out there will expand this article, I was able to find ja iwki but that's about it - 99% info on her is in Japanese.--_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk} 21:53, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Cease editing/dabbing lists

Hi Blofeld - just to note that we should discourage people from editing the existing lists. The data is insufficient for article creation per the consensus at WP:GEOBOT and we'll need to start from scratch with volunteers from the existing WikiProjects. What's important at this stage is to get the organisation together first - a place to base the project, and the methods we will be using. But the existing lists will unfortunately, in all probability, have to be scrubbed. Fritzpoll (talk) 22:45, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

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[edit] Barnstar

I would like to give you the

		The Geography Barnstar
		For all the pages you made of villages in Afghanistan, even though they're still stubs. Arienh4(Talk) 10:22, 11 June 2008 (UTC)

Yeah, I noticed that you added a lot of articles while patrolling the new pages. Might wanna remove the wikibreak banner by the way.

[edit] Proposed deletion of Yavarzan

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[edit] Burkina

Still interested but very busy; unfortunately June is the worst month of the year. I will finish off the Burkina region articles and do some of the province templates, starting at the end of the alphabet. On for a few hours now, so I'll see what I can do. Ah, that reminds to buy the Niger Bradt guide, I'll order that at the weekend hopefully. Looking forward to July, when I can really get to work at this, and the new Wikiproject! Cheers, EJF (talk) 15:55, 11 June 2008 (UTC)

I randomly picked Template:Ganzourgou and have started working at it. Unforunately there are some names that appear up to ten times in the same department, like Mankarga; and cannot be dabbed by coordinates. How do you suggest dabbing these? I have left the titles as they were in the Burkinabé census. For Tanguen, in Kogho, I dabbed using the Maplandia coordinates; is that how you normally dab them. Regards, EJF (talk) 16:36, 11 June 2008 (UTC)

Unfortunately there are no coordinates for all the villages; the V1, V2 etc. villages don't have coordinates. Should I ignore them and leave them redlinks until a way to dab can be figured out? EJF (talk) 18:18, 11 June 2008 (UTC)

It might confuse the new page patrollers I suppose lol! OK, I'll take them out and put in a hidden comment. Regards, EJF (talk) 18:27, 11 June 2008 (UTC)

Good idea, it should save the patrollers extra work. I should be on for several hours tomorrow so iI should be able to battle through a good few more towns and villages. Regards, EJF (talk) 22:04, 11 June 2008 (UTC)

• Good range of countries, and the guides must be very in-depth by the size of them. Did your Burkina book arrive yet? I think I'll buy two books, maybe Sudan and Niger; not too bad prices on Amazon, and with free delivery and not as much hassle with eBay sellers not posting the stuff out! Regards, EJF (talk) 10:14, 12 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] hi!

Yes I did, and thanks for the barnstar!

I might be able to use the location map, but it won't be super easy. The NGIA data (is that the right acronym) seems pretty hit and miss as far as communes (well, everything in cambodia) go. For at least some communes I have found maps that indicate where they are in their districts (like in Ou Ya Dav District), but figuring out the coordinates from this info will take a bit of doing. I'm not sure if it might not be better to provide a map that indicates the position of the district in the province (i.e. a map like the second one in Ou Ya Dav, but with only the district indicated in blue rather than the whole province), and then a map showing the communes within the district like the one that's awkwardly outside the infobox (with perhaps the relevant commune colored in). This way you could see the shape of the commune rather than just a dot, and the location of the district in Cambodia would give you a sense of where it is in the general scheme of things. We could ask people at WP:GL to help making svgs for this. I'm all right at editing svgs but really pretty clueless about making them from scratch from a raster.

And hopefully I will get to the commune navbox thing, but I'm not sure if at this point it doesn't make more sense just to combine those into district level articles because I don't think there's much more info to be found out there. (Maybe this will be different in more populated provinces.) Mangostar (talk) 16:24, 11 June 2008 (UTC)

I know, it's amazing how sad some of the provinces are. Like Kampong Speu Province, with 600,000 residents! The LOC stuff is a great resource. Somewhere there is a long-dead WikiProject Country Studies or something along those lines that I found after I made my page. Perhaps it could be revived. 1958 elections in Laos is great and perfectly acceptable. When you link to the source though, be sure to link to the main page for the Laos country study rather than the specific section (diff) because the links to the subpages are temporary and go dead quite shortly after you use them. Mangostar (talk) 16:37, 11 June 2008 (UTC)

here it is: Wikipedia:WikiProject Library of Congress Country Studies Mangostar (talk) 16:39, 11 June 2008 (UTC)

Would you be interested in reviving the project and starting to work through these methodically? Mangostar (talk) 16:46, 11 June 2008 (UTC)

Sure, I'll drop them a line later. Maybe we could also have a little plug on the geobot page? Oh, and the contents of Topography of Laos already existed at Geography of Laos, so I redirected it... Mangostar (talk) 17:00, 11 June 2008 (UTC)

Using a bot for this is an interesting idea, but I don't really think it makes sense. The legwork in cutting and pasting the text is relatively minor, and there is a lot of human judgment in changing tenses, adding appropriate tags, figuring out how to integrate text, etc. I have used some basic templates (e.g. User:Mangostar/religion) which seemed sufficient. Mangostar (talk) 17:32, 11 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Galagedara

Please have a look at this one and the dab tree descendent from it. See if you'd do anything different. I have a feeling that the article at Galagedara is actually one of the ones in the dab, but which? and how do we know? the problems with unreferenced articles....

Carlossuarez46 (talk) 19:47, 11 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Burkina tip

Hey Blofeld, just a eads up: For Burkina Faso, don't use the Maplandia list of names. Please only use the inforoute-communale for the names, and only Maplandia for the coordinates. I have noticed many problems with maplandia recently, including misspelt names, ommissions and additions. By the way: I'll probably be getting my Bradt guide in late June/July, but unfortunately I will not be very active then. Saturday, for example, I will be heading down to good ol' New Jersey for beachtime! This will of course leaave me without internet so you and EJF will mostly have to be on your own. I'm an Editorofthewiki^{[citation needed]} 10:46, 12 June 2008 (UTC)

I'm in Switzerland for 10 days in late June/early July, then going to London; so we could be a bit short-staffed... Do either of you know how to get on the CorenSearchBot whitelist? EJF (talk) 10:55, 12 June 2008 (UTC)

You are whitelisted. As to Blofeld, what is that Benin Site? I'm an Editorofthewiki^{[citation needed]} 11:03, 12 June 2008 (UTC)

Good idea. Hopefully countries will be prepared to release data, I'm not sure how some would react to an American website wanting their data. I expect that the Burkina site will be updated soon with the 2006 census info; then all the stats will have to be changed in the stubs from the 2005 estimates to the 2006 data... EJF (talk) 13:55, 12 June 2008 (UTC)

Yes I imagine the main Burkina stub category is fairly large now! Editorofthewiki seems to be covering Template:Bam, so I think I'll have a go at Template:Bazéga – looks like 215+ settlements so it'll keep me going for a while!!! Regards, EJF (talk) 15:55, 12 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Geobot

E-mailing might be problematic, if they don't provide an external source. I don't think we could rely on e-mail from even a governmental entity as necessarily reliable. It might be from a low-grade flunky who doesn't know what he's talking about. If they could point us toward anything outside the e-mail, of course, those sources could be useful. John Carter (talk) 14:10, 12 June 2008 (UTC)

I think most travel guides list at least a few online sources for information on the countries in question, I know the Lonely Planet Afghanistan guide did. I can try to add those as well. John Carter (talk) 14:29, 12 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Burkina Faso, stub proposals

As you quite evidently don't do stub proposals, I don't see what you'd reasonably have to resent this statement, nor do I see why you feel that "lazy" is the intended or actual implication. Alai (talk) 15:35, 12 June 2008 (UTC)

Again, I entirely disagree that it "looks that way". You seem to be applying a whole layer of drama to the situation out of thin air, quite frankly. I have no objection to being notified, and would much rather you notified someone than you didn't tell anyone at all, but I really don't see the logic of dropping a note to one stub-sorter, when you could say essentially exactly the same thing to all of us at once at the proposals page -- that's exactly what it's for, after all. They don't have to be any more detailed or polished than the information you provided to me: we can work out the details from there. Alai (talk) 15:49, 12 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Re

Not much. There are some details about naming and mills that were located on its banks in the past. - Darwinek (talk) 21:33, 12 June 2008 (UTC)

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[edit] Consultation

Hey Blof!

I wanted to ask you something:

One user has started creating tempates for Award winning films of Filmfare and National film awards. Here they are: {{FilmfareCriticsAwardBestMovie}}, {{NationalFilmAwardBestFeatureFilm}}, {{NationalFilmAwardBestActor}}, and even categories -- which means he will continue creating templates for all the categories.

Do you think they are needed? If they aren't - I think we should make it clear to him, so that he stops creating them. In fact, it's not an easy task - so although I appreciate his efforts - I don't want to ruin his hard work after he finishes them all. I think it will make many page loaded of templates... Think of Satyajit Ray, who has won over 30 National Film Awards....

What do you think? Shahid • ^Talk2me 22:28, 12 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Afghan links...

Here is an Afghan link...

• http://www.nps.edu/programs/ccs/Docs/Executive%20Summaries/Laghman_Provincial_Overview_CCS.pdf

I was looking at a really good set of pages, a couple of weeks ago, but I can't for the life of me, remember the URL...

I will keep thinking about it. Geo Swan (talk) 23:17, 12 June 2008 (UTC)

• http://www.aims.org.af/afg/dist_profiles/unhcr_district_profiles/eastern/nangarhar/surkh_rod.pdf