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[edit] Business and Economics project chart

Oleg Alexandrov, the chart on the page Wikipedia:WikiProject Business and Economics does not seem to have updated counts for Unassessed Business and Economics articles. Can you put updated counts in the chart? Maybe the whole chart needs to be updated? I'm not sure. Can you help? --Foggy Morning (talk) 03:03, 5 March 2008 (UTC)

From this diff, it updated last three days ago. It should update again at the next run I guess, in a day or two. Let me know if it does not. Oleg Alexandrov (talk) 06:31, 5 March 2008 (UTC)
Thank you -- I didn't realize that so many stub articles are unassessed. Sorry about that! By the way, can you send company articles to the Wikiproject Companies and take them off the Business project? --Foggy Morning (talk) 03:23, 6 March 2008 (UTC)
I can't manipulate the bot directly. The bot follows the instructions. You need to remove some tags from some article talk pages to make those articles disappear from your project. Oleg Alexandrov (talk) 04:06, 6 March 2008 (UTC)
I don't understand those instructions. Wikipedia:Version 1.0 Editorial Team is making a Wiki-based CD for school children. I'm glad they're doing that, but how does that relate to project tags on articles? I don't understand. --Foggy Morning (talk) 04:33, 6 March 2008 (UTC)
Well, I don't know more than what is there. The way it works is that you tag talk pages of articles, and then the bot collects them into lists and statistics. Perhaps you can ask your question at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Business and Economics, they know better than me which articles are tagged. I just run the bot, which articles show up in the lists is managed by individual projects. Oleg Alexandrov (talk) 04:40, 6 March 2008 (UTC)
I still don't understand. Nobody is managing the Business project. How did articles get tagged? A bot tagged lots of articles. Was that your bot? I'm totally lost here.... --Foggy Morning (talk) 04:52, 6 March 2008 (UTC)
It was not my bot tagging those articles. Did you already ask at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Business and Economics? Did you ask the person/bot who tagged those articles? I can't help much, there are a thousand projects over there, and all I do is using a bot to collect the data. I don't do the tagging for any of the projects. Sorry. :) Oleg Alexandrov (talk) 06:00, 6 March 2008 (UTC)
Look here about a tagging example. That article is part of the buisness and economics project. Oleg Alexandrov (talk) 06:01, 6 March 2008 (UTC)

To Foggy Morning: Please give a specific example (with a link to the article) of an article which you think is being processed improperly. JRSpriggs (talk) 11:36, 6 March 2008 (UTC)

I think Oleg Alexandrov has given me the answer. BetacommandBot tagged a bunch of articles, editors are updating the tags, and this bot is updating the Business and Econ project chart. When BetacommandBot did the tagging, there wasn't a separate project for Companies, so the companies were tagged for B&E. I don't think any of the bots are doing anything wrong. But I didn't understand that when I first asked. Thanks for your patience! --Foggy Morning (talk) 00:10, 8 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Unprotected page

The minute the shield is lifted, the phantom strikes [1]--CSTAR (talk) 05:49, 6 March 2008 (UTC)

Well, not very controversial so far. If there's a pattern of abuse again, then I guess it would be the right thing to reprotect the page. Oleg Alexandrov (talk) 06:00, 6 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] FL-Class

Is there something special I have to do for the bot to recognize a new category? It is not reading Category:FL-Class Texas road transport articles. Thanks. --Holderca1 talk 17:02, 6 March 2008 (UTC)

here. The bot that is run by hand was using a version of the code older than the one ran automatically (they are on two different servers). That is fixed now. Thanks for the report. Oleg Alexandrov (talk) 04:40, 7 March 2008 (UTC)
Great, thank you. --Holderca1 talk 13:32, 7 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Category:Mathematical portal

Sorry if you think that my English is so bad. Anyway, I would have certainly marked these categories for speedy after having updated the Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Mathematics page. The redirects were done to avoid the reader to be confused. However, your rationale stating "Unneeded" is not a CSD, though the other reasons are. This category will be more and more useful, when the number of portals related to mathematics will grow. I add that mentionning the name of the contributor is generally considered uncivil when the creation was in good faith. Cheers, Cenarium (talk) 19:36, 8 March 2008 (UTC)

That was a bit of haste on my part, sorry about that. I do not think I mentioned your name in the deletion of that category, perhaps that was the automated message that adds the contributor's name. I had seen that you already created Category:Mathematics portals, which I think is indeed the correct wording, and I think redirects from categories are not that usual or that useful. No hard feelings I hope. Oleg Alexandrov (talk) 23:33, 8 March 2008 (UTC)
No hard feelings at all. I was referring to my name in the deletion logs [2][3], the name of the creator is almost never given. The redirects were only temporary as I explained. Cenarium (talk) 01:22, 9 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Creating FL-class category

I'm currently trying to create a category for FL-class college football articles for Wikipedia:WikiProject College football. My goal is to have them show up on the "rating scorecard" under the assessment portion of the project, but I'm not sure how to set the articles up so that the bot will read them. Could you help? Thanks. JKBrooks85 (talk) 05:19, 9 March 2008 (UTC)

See if the instructions (which are linked from WP:1.0/I) are of help. If that does not work, let me know. Cheers, Oleg Alexandrov (talk) 05:25, 9 March 2008 (UTC)
Your instructions were a help, but unfortunately, the bot doesn't seem to recognize the FL-class items. I've created a category for them, but none of the articles in this section seem to have been picked up. Any suggestions? JKBrooks85 (talk) 06:36, 9 March 2008 (UTC)
That is because the category is empty. You need to first rate the talk pages of those articles as FL-Class. Then they will show up in the category. Then you can run the bot as written in the instructions, and hopefully the articles will show up in the table. Oleg Alexandrov (talk) 04:02, 10 March 2008 (UTC)
I have rated them as FL-class, which is why it's so puzzling. Everything in this list under the featured list section is listed as FL-class, and nothing is showing up. Is it a problem with the template itself? JKBrooks85 (talk) 07:29, 10 March 2008 (UTC)
Incidentally, they appear to be showing up in the "unassessed" category. That would indicate a problem with the template, correct? JKBrooks85 (talk) 07:32, 10 March 2008 (UTC)

I got someone to fix the template, so that category is starting to populate now. Thanks for all your help. JKBrooks85 (talk) 21:20, 10 March 2008 (UTC)

I did not do much, but glad you solved it. Oleg Alexandrov (talk) 02:45, 11 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] WP 1.0 bot

This may have been suggested before (I admit I'm too lazy to check), but it may be helpful to include a note as to the currency of the information in templates such as this one. I see this information is arleady included in the edit summary, so adding it to the templates should be fairly trivial? Thanks.—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); 13:10, 14 March 2008 (UTC)

I'd argue that since the bot runs very often (every four days), the information is already up to date, so a date stamp may not be needed (it would also distract from the table of numbers to start with, and it won't look good in transclusions). However, you can, if you wish, raise this proposal at WT:1.0/I to see what others say. Oleg Alexandrov (talk) 14:46, 14 March 2008 (UTC)
Thanks, I'll do that. It's probably hard to predict whether the date would be distracting or not without giving at a try, though.—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); 15:07, 14 March 2008 (UTC)

I notice a number of people have change the run frequency description on the main index page. I have reverted these as I believe they are based on a misunderstanding. Would you like to have a look at this an clarify please. :: Kevinalewis : (Talk Page)/(Desk) 09:23, 17 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Help with moving

Hi Oleg, can you, please, move "Prolate" to "Prolate spheroid" (which currently redirects back to it)? Also, why can't anyone move it? I thought that the rule was, if a page X has no edit history (aside from redirects), then another page can be moved to X. Thanks! Arcfrk (talk) 01:55, 15 March 2008 (UTC)

Done. I think if the page has some history at all, except for being a redirect after a move, then one can't move another page over it. Oleg Alexandrov (talk) 03:47, 15 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] massremoval of articles

There is a mass removal of articles according to your bot. Wikipedia:Version_1.0_Editorial_Team/Germany_articles_by_quality_log, while there has been no changes to the banners itself. Has there been an alteration in the bots code? Agathoclea (talk) 10:19, 18 March 2008 (UTC)

There has been no change in the bot code either. I'll try to think about what may be going on. Let's also see if other projects experienced this. Oleg Alexandrov (talk) 15:13, 18 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] WP 1.0 bot progress

I've made progress on the WP 1.0 bot code, and the API bug that was holding up progress has been fixed. I'm about ready to try a complete run with the new code. I have been testing it on individual projects today, and I have it to a point where it seems to match the behavior of the old code. I'm going to do some more individual testing, and if that's good I will probably start a full run this weekend. I'll turn off the old code on kiwix when I do that.

The cgi script seems to run on a different server, right? I don't think there is any issue if it continues to run while the test is in progress.

I made an announcement at Wikipedia_talk:Version_1.0_Editorial_Team/Index#WP_1.0_bot_trials to let people know to watch for any errors in the new code.

— Carl (CBM · talk) 01:14, 20 March 2008 (UTC)

Great, thanks! Let me know if I should replace the CGI script on the other server (if kiwix supports cgi scripts we can move the script there too, BTW).
I'd like to note that I made some changes to the old script on the kiwix server, by adding FL-Class, for example. You can see the changes with the SVN repository by doing
svn diff -rHEAD wp10_routines.pl
in the old dir. Thanks! Oleg Alexandrov (talk) 16:05, 20 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] List updater

[4] \implies\ddot\frown

Any hope for a recovery? -- Jitse Niesen (talk) 15:17, 20 March 2008 (UTC)

I'll look at this later today. Oleg Alexandrov (talk) 16:06, 20 March 2008 (UTC)
Fixed now, thanks for pointing this out. Oleg Alexandrov (talk) 04:11, 21 March 2008 (UTC)
Thanks. Looks like I have some work cut out for me ... *sigh* -- Jitse Niesen (talk) 16:28, 21 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Updating comments with WP 1.0 bot

Hi. Does WP 1.0 bot update the comments column anymore? SeanMD80 (talk · contribs) just performed a reassessment with comments on six articles for WP:HAWAII (Wikipedia:Version 1.0 Editorial Team/Hawaii articles by quality) and after running the bot manually, the comments column was not populated. Has that feature been turned off? —Viriditas | Talk 10:01, 21 March 2008 (UTC)

There has been no change, and the bot works well for most projects, I think. Try to take a quick look at the instructions (reached from WP:1.0/I), or compare with another project which uses comments. Most likely some category is not set up right. If this does not help, let me know. Cheers, Oleg Alexandrov (talk) 15:08, 21 March 2008 (UTC)
Thank you for explaining. The problem seems to be with Template:WPHawaii. The instructions points to code that is supposed to detect comments subpages. —Viriditas | Talk 08:44, 22 March 2008 (UTC)
I just noticed that another editor moved the template to another name a week ago, so I moved it back. I'm curious if that had anything to do with it. I'll play around with it some more. —Viriditas | Talk 09:01, 22 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Finite difference

What is unclear in my formula. Test it, the formula is exact for third degree polynomials and approximative for any continuous function. Should i include its development?.penman (talk) 14:13, 21 March 2008 (UTC)

Do you have references for it? The notation is very complex, and I fail to see how it is used or how it improves the article. Oleg Alexandrov (talk) 15:09, 21 March 2008 (UTC)
I have developed the formula myself. It is uses to translate differential equations to groups of

linear equations. Deleting the dots the matrix M=\frac{1}{6 h} \begin{vmatrix}-11&18&-9&2\\-2&-3&6&-1\\1&-6&3&2\\-2&9&-18&11\end{vmatrix} D=d/dx.

I will write some examples and continue to function approximations and integral equations. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Pentti71 (talk • contribs) 16:48, 21 March 2008 (UTC)

Sorry, but Wikipedia accepts only published material, see WP:NOR. Either way, I am not sure what you wrote is important or interesting for the article. Oleg Alexandrov (talk) 03:22, 22 March 2008 (UTC)
OK I will publish my development only in my homepage: http://koti.mbnet.fi/~pentti71/diffcalc/index.html penman (talk) 13:33, 22 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Change

I made a change to Template:Afd top, instead of {{subst:Afd top}}, I added a {{{1}}}, so now users can enter {{subst:Afd top|TEXT HERE ~~~~}}. Fallen Angel 17:09, 26 March 2008 (UTC)

(Belated) thanks. Oleg Alexandrov (talk) 03:59, 9 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] RfC

I've started drafting a user conduct RfC that you might be interested in here. There's a lot of evidence to locate, sift through and present, so I think it will take awhile to get it put together. If you'd like to participate, please feel free to do so. Cla68 (talk) 06:39, 28 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Invitaţie ro:Proiect:Chişinău

Bună ziua! Odată ce locuiţi în Republica Moldova, sper că putem dezvolta împreună articolul ro:Chişinău. Vedeţi în acest sens ro:Proiect:Chişinău. Mulţumesc. Giku (talk) 08:12, 30 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Hello

I've seen your important contributions for the article Recurrence relation. I'm looking for the general (non-iterative) non-trigonometric expression for the exact trigonometric constants of the form: \begin{align}\cos \frac{\pi}{2^n}\end{align}, when n is natural (and is not given in advance). Do you know of any such general (non-iterative) non-trigonometric expression? (note that any exponential-expression-over-the-imaginaries is also excluded since it's trivially equivalent to a real-trigonometric expression).

  • Let me explain: if we choose n=1 then the term \begin{align}\cos \frac{\pi}{2^n}\end{align} becomes "0", which is a simple (non-trigonometric) constant. If we choose n=2 then the term \begin{align}\cos \frac{\pi}{2^n}\end{align} becomes \begin{align}\frac{1}{\sqrt{2}}\end{align}, which is again a non-trigonometric expression. etc. etc. Generally, for every natural n, the term \begin{align}\cos \frac{\pi}{2^n}\end{align} becomes a non-trigonometric expression. However, when n is not given in advance, then the very expression \begin{align}\cos \frac{\pi}{2^n}\end{align} per se - is a trigonometric expression. I'm looking for the general (non-iterative) non-trigonometric expression equivalent to \begin{align}\cos \frac{\pi}{2^n}\end{align}, when n is not given in advance. If not for the cosine - then for the sine or the tangent or the cotangent.

Eliko (talk) 08:26, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

Well,
\cos \frac{\pi}{4}=\frac{\sqrt{2}}{2}
Then,
\cos \frac{\pi}{8}=\sqrt{\frac{1+\cos \frac{\pi}{4}}{2}}
=\sqrt{\frac{1+\frac{\sqrt{2}}{2}}{2}}
=\frac{1}{2}\sqrt{2+{\sqrt{2}}}.
In the same way,
\cos \frac{\pi}{16}=\frac{1}{2}\sqrt{2+{\sqrt{2+\sqrt{2}}}}, etc.
I don't know any other way. Oleg Alexandrov (talk) 02:57, 1 April 2008 (UTC)
Well, this is an iterative way. I'm looking for the general (non-iterative) formula, i.e. for the closed formula. Anyways, thank you for your reply. Eliko (talk) 14:41, 1 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Wikipedia:Version 1.0 Editorial Team/Index question

Hello, Oleg. I don't know if you've seen it yet, but I'm working a wikiproject management tool called Igor. At the moment I'm trying to put together a wikiproject browser, which attempts to merge data from several sources (especially here and here), using the project's project page as the closest thing available to a unique identifier. This brings be to my question: from where does WP 1.0 bot get the information about the various projects that it uses to build Wikipedia:Version 1.0 Editorial Team/Index? Looking through it, I'm seeing a few duplicate projects pages. For the most part the duplications make sense, like projects and task-forces that use the same project page, but a couple of them make me wonder. For example, the index lists the AFC and Anthropology projects as having their project page at Wikipedia:WikiProject Articles for creation. Is this the result of a misconfiguration somewhere, or did the bot try to mine the data and come up with the wrong answer? Many thanks in advance, and many more thanks for your work with the bots! – ClockworkSoul 01:03, 7 April 2008 (UTC)

The bot gets its information from the subcategories of Category:Wikipedia 1.0 assessments, see for example Category:Stub-Class Alaska articles. People rate talk pages, the talk pages get put in categories, and the bot collects that information. More detail is at Wikipedia:Version 1.0 Editorial Team/Using the bot. See if that's helpful, and let me know if you have further questions. Cheers, Oleg Alexandrov (talk) 01:07, 7 April 2008 (UTC)
I think that you want to look at the function get_wikiproject in the file wp10_routines.pl in the WP 1.0 bot source code. It basically just makes a sequence of guesses hoping to find a page that exists. — Carl (CBM · talk) 01:14, 7 April 2008 (UTC)
Ah, you are talking about the "Wikiproject" column in the index. That's indeed based on some guesses reading the base category for each table row. I don't think that information is that vital, and people can always fix their project in the index, the bot won't overwrite the information. As far as using that information for your project, we'll that's bot generated information, and while it is mostly reliable, it can't be completely accurate. Oleg Alexandrov (talk) 01:17, 7 April 2008 (UTC)
Yes, that's what I'm talking about. :) The reason I ask is because the closest thing I can come up with for a unique project identifier is the project's page, which is mission critical for Igor, so I'm just poking around to see how I might get the cleanest possible data. The kind of project name collision I'm talking about only affects 40 entries on that page, so I don't think I'll have to worry about it too much any time soon. Just to be sure I understand, though, if I correct the "Wikiproject" value on the index page, the bot won't overwrite it? – ClockworkSoul 01:28, 7 April 2008 (UTC)
Right, the bot won't overwrite the wikiproject if you correct it. Oleg Alexandrov (talk) 02:33, 7 April 2008 (UTC)
That makes my life much easier - thanks! – ClockworkSoul 03:38, 7 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Mathbot and OldAfD's

Shortcuts:
WP:OAFD
WP:OLDAFD

Yo Oleg, I want to add these shortcuts (see right) to Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Old/Open AfDs but Mathbot has removed them. Can you get it to leave them alone? Thanks, Skomorokh 15:46, 7 April 2008 (UTC)

I'll modify the bot code to that effect, hopefully in the next several days. Cheers, Oleg Alexandrov (talk) 05:48, 8 April 2008 (UTC)
Much appreciated, thanks. Skomorokh 14:27, 8 April 2008 (UTC)
Done. Oleg Alexandrov (talk) 02:57, 9 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] move request

De Branges' theorem --> Bieberbach conjecture

I left a comment on the talk page a couple years ago:

So the article says it was formerly called the Bieberbach conjecture. I found that odd as I've always thought of it as Bieberbach conjecture, and heard it often referred that way. Do specialists really call it de Branges' theorem? A preliminary look through MathSciNet, seems to indicate that "the de Branges theorem" actually refers to a more general theorem that implies (among other important stuff) the Bieberbach conjecture. --C S (Talk) 07:36, 15 April 2006 (UTC)

I looked through search results on Google Scholar, and I don't find any reference to De Branges' theorem other than those refer to either other or more general results. It appears the name is still "Bieberbach conjecture".

--C S (talk) 18:48, 7 April 2008 (UTC)

I can easily do the move, but would like other people to comment on that first. Let's continue at WT:WPM#Bieberbach conjecture. Oleg Alexandrov (talk) 05:49, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] {{afd-top}}

I am editing the template so the result may be completed easily in the template instead of outside the template as in: The result was {{{1}}}. BoL (Talk) 03:38, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

No problem. If the bot breaks as a result of the edit, then please let me know and I'll try to fix it back. Oleg Alexandrov (talk) 05:52, 8 April 2008 (UTC)
Thank you. Now I need approval from the other two bot owners...:D BoL (Talk) 03:24, 9 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] WP 1.0 Bot

Hi, a request for Wikipedia:Version_1.0_Editorial_Team/Geology_articles_by_quality_statistics.

Could you please link the number in each cell to the relevant category? For example, "Category:Mid-importance Stub-class Geology articles"

The relevant importance specifiers are:

Top, High, Mid, Low, Unknown

for importance, and

Fa, A, Ga, B, Start, Stub, List, Unknown

for class.

Thanks a lot!

Verisimilus T 15:01, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

Putting in those links would require big changes to how the bot locates categories. Given that very few projects use such intersection categories, I would be reluctant to work on implementing this. Also, if this is implemented the bot would have to check for the presence of these categories for all projects, which would slow down the bot to some extent. Sorry. :) Oleg Alexandrov (talk) 02:43, 9 April 2008 (UTC)
Hi,
I've worked out an alternative way to implement this function using {PAGESINCATEGORY}. Therefore the bot no longer needs to update the page. Could you remove it from your list of pages to update, please? Thanks. Verisimilus T 11:50, 12 April 2008 (UTC)
You'll need to remove your project from Category:Wikipedia 1.0 assessments. Then the bot won't update anything about the project. Sorry for this all-or-nothing approach, but I can't tweak the bot for individual projects, they are too many. Oleg Alexandrov (talk) 12:23, 12 April 2008 (UTC)
I'm a bit wary about withdrawing the entire project from Category:WikiProjects participating in Wikipedia 1.0 assessments, because the category participates in WP1.0 assessments. Surely it would not be too difficult to make the bot respect the {{bots}} template tag? (I appreciate that it's unwanted faff maintaining a bot, but I'm not sure that using a category erected for a different purpose to generate a task list is entirely appropriate.) Thanks Verisimilus T 07:31, 18 April 2008 (UTC)
I can exclude your wikiproject on the server side, so that the bot will no longer update its data, as if you had removed it from the category. An alternative would be for you to create your table somewhere other than the location the bot writes to, and allow the bot to continue updating its table in parallel. I agree with Oleg that, because of the number of projects involved, each project can choose whether to participate in the bot or not, but it's an all-or-nothing choice. — Carl (CBM · talk) 13:36, 18 April 2008 (UTC)
  • Hi, I've solved this problem by creating a template somewhere else. A bit more leg work, but the simplest solution all round I guess. Thanks for your time here! Verisimilus T 16:45, 21 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Two things

Oleg,

On the WP 1.0 bot front, things are going well. For some reason the bot has been getting truncated data from the wikipedia server on occasion, which makes it crash trying to parse malformed XML. I am going to add some exception handling so that the bot will just fetch the data again if it is malformed. It did finish a complete run starting Sunday, which took about 54 hours. Nobody seems to have complained about bugs, so I will remove the "test code" part of the edit summary soon.

On the mathematics side of things, someone mentioned complex number on WT:WPM, but when I edited that page I ran into an editor who is quick to revert. You've participated there before, and if you haven't sworn off that page I'd appreciate any thoughts about my comments on the talk page. My main concern is with "In mathematics, a complex number is a number which can be formally defined as an ordered pair of real numbers (a,b)", which I find vague to the point of not defining anything - many things besides complex numbers can be defined as pairs of real numbers. I do appreciate the desire to keep the lede straightforward, and avoid adding too much content, but I think that what we do say needs to have a little more meaning than that. I would rather if it said "represented by a pair of real numbers", since I think this avoids the non-definition and also matches the common viewpoint that the complex plane is simply one interpretation of the complex field. — Carl (CBM · talk) 20:41, 9 April 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for working on WP 1.0! It is really awesome you have taken the time to work on this (I remember how time-consuming this affair can be).
I commented on talk:complex number on the introduction. Oleg Alexandrov (talk) 06:09, 10 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Version 1.0 Bot

Wikipedia:Version 1.0 Editorial Team/Sheffield Wednesday articles by quality statistics hasn't been updated for over 8 days. Any idea what the problem might be? Dan1980 (talk ♦ stalk) 20:22, 10 April 2008 (UTC)

It was updated on April 6 as well; if the table doesn't change there will be no record of the update at the table page. The last update is recorded at the bottom of Wikipedia:Version_1.0_Editorial_Team/Sheffield_Wednesday_articles_by_quality. The plan is to get automatic updates to run two times per week, but they have only run once per week the last two weeks. You can also run manual updates by following the links from User:WP 1.0 bot. — Carl (CBM · talk) 20:35, 10 April 2008 (UTC)
OK, that's answered my question. Thanks Dan1980 (talk ♦ stalk) 20:37, 10 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] systolic geometry

Hi,

Hope all is well. I added an explanation of the figure in the article. I am not too good with hyperlinks. If you get a chance, could you please link the picture and the explanation somehow? Katzmik (talk) 12:40, 11 April 2008 (UTC)

I put a link. I hope that's what you wanted. Cheers, Oleg Alexandrov (talk) 15:19, 11 April 2008 (UTC)
Thanks very much! Katzmik (talk) 08:35, 15 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Inverse function

Please comment at talk:Inverse function and stop reverting the article in the meantime. 213.114.200.31 (talk) 13:27, 12 April 2008 (UTC)

Yeah, yeah, mutual cease-fire. :) I think the issue is settled now. Oleg Alexandrov (talk) 17:12, 12 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Discussion at WPM

Thank you for your support, Oleg. Unfortunately, it is not just the question of how something should be written. As I stated in the beginning of my post at the math project talk page, I am truly sick of repeated attacks on my contributions and on me personally. There is no doubt that they are intended to bully other editors into falling in line with MathSci's preferred version of the articles that he has contributed to, and deter them from editing these articles. I asked Geometry Guy for help the previous time a thing like that had happened, since I was sure it wasn't the last time, but he didn't want to do anything about it. I do not enjoy quarreling and I cannot stand denigrating comments embedded into edit summaries (even if they are factually wrong). It was fun contributing to what I think is slated to be an encyclopaedia of the future, and I have enjoyed meeting other enthusiasts and even an occasional old friend. It is too bad that a single SOB can be capable of poisoning the whole experience, but under the circumstances, I think that withdrawing permanently is the best solution for me. I wish you much success in your difficult and admirable task. Arcfrk (talk) 08:01, 13 April 2008 (UTC)

I hope you don't do that. In my case, it was not a lack of "want" but a lack of time and knowing where to start to come up with a solution to this issue. I'm glad Carl and Oleg have been helpful and hope that some of the other avenues you have explored will yield fruit. Orbifold is certainly a bloated and unsourced mess, which will be extremely difficult to fix. I might try instead to help out at Surface related articles. Geometry guy 11:28, 13 April 2008 (UTC)
I've had my share of frustrating experiences with another editor recently, and I understand what you mean. All I can do is repeat my earlier suggestion that if you encounter problems with this editor in the future at any article, just ask at WT:WPM for outside review. There is no other way to deal with editors who are problematic, I think. And hope you're not leaving for good. Oleg Alexandrov (talk) 19:46, 13 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Urgent

Oleg, could you stop the piglet http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/NewPorosenok please? dima (talk) 14:02, 14 April 2008 (UTC)

I see that "porosenok" got blocked. Thanks for your note. Usually, the quickest response can be obtained by writing on WP:AN/I. Cheers, Oleg Alexandrov (talk) 04:43, 15 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Potential problem

I've been trying to run the WP 1.0 bot to update Category:Ships articles by quality, which has not been updated for almost a week. I have tried to run the bot three times, and it stalls on me. To make sure the bot was working correctly, I tested it on Category:Maritime warfare articles by quality about 9 hours ago, and it worked. Could you look in to this problem? -MBK004 17:09, 14 April 2008 (UTC)

The bot stalls on long projects indeed. I think is is not bot's fault, the web server just cuts it off. For big projects it is better not to use the web interface but to wait for the bot to update the page in batch mode.
The bot has been running a bit more seldom recently, due to some transition and testing done to it. I think it should come back to frequent runs soon (ask Carl to be sure). Oleg Alexandrov (talk) 04:45, 15 April 2008 (UTC)
I ran the ships project by hand just now. The transition process has been very nice from the point of view of not breaking any wiki pages, but there are still some issues with the unreliability of the wikipedia servers. I hope that the bot runs two times per week at least, but it has been more like once per week to complete a full run for the past few weeks. This is still an improvement, though; the previous code was almost never finishing the biography project. — Carl (CBM · talk) 05:20, 15 April 2008 (UTC)
Thanks, that explains both of my questions (why it stalls, and the lack of recent updates). -MBK004 05:22, 15 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Liouville equation

Hello,

Could you please create a disambiguation page for Liouville's equation? The page Liouville equations should be moved to Liouville's equation. Katzmik (talk) 14:21, 15 April 2008 (UTC)

Done. Oleg Alexandrov (talk) 03:35, 16 April 2008 (UTC)
Thanks very much! Katzmik (talk) 14:33, 16 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] exponential map

Hello,

I noticed your comment on Fropuff's page concerning exponential map. I think the page should definitely be split into two, with a disambiguation page 1. exponential map (Lie theory); 2. exponential map (Riemannian geometry). The third section (on bi-invariant metrics) can be included in both.

Both references are mostly on the Riemannian side, although Cheeger and Ebin discuss Lie theory as well. If noone adds Lie theoretic references I will try to. Katzmik (talk) 15:41, 16 April 2008 (UTC)

I will reply at talk:exponential map. Oleg Alexandrov (talk) 04:54, 17 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] template:science portalbar!

hello, i saw you nominating this template for deletion. but i hope you would surely love to see improved coverage of portals. for eg. compare this ratio with this one. it means this template has increased wikipedia's coverage by 4 times. i hope you might wish to withdraw your proposal. thanks for your kind efforts in making wikipedia a better encyclopedia. i appreciate your contributions. thanks, Sushant gupta (talk) 16:10, 22 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Vector Image

Hello. I wish to know what software you used in creating this [5]vector image. My work will be much improved. Thanks


Draco Kohakunushi (talk) 16:55, 22 April 2008 (UTC)

I used Inkscape. Oleg Alexandrov (talk) 03:21, 23 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Splitting space

It would be great to get your opinions on making space the disambiguation page for the subject. See here. Thanks Andeggs (talk) 21:56, 22 April 2008 (UTC)

I replied at talk:space. Oleg Alexandrov (talk) 03:22, 23 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Wikipedia:Version_1.0_Editorial_Team/Index is too big

I noticed today that Wikipedia:Version_1.0_Editorial_Team/Index will show up as a blank page for many people. Some diagnosis with the site admins on IRC says it's because the page is too big and Mediawiki runs out of memory trying to serve it. So the bot script will have to be changed to split the index over two or more pages.

Do you have time to look at that? I don't think I will have time for a while. I think (hope) that the bot will still work even if we are unable to view the page. But people will start to complain soon I would guess.

WP 1.0 bot is a very nice script, and I was impressed with what it does when I was working on the code. But I think it is starting to burst at the seams with all the data it is storing on the DB. (As I say this, it is uploading the lists for the Biography project). I hope you will not be offended if I start thinking about "son of WP 1.0 bot" that uses some other backend instead of wiki pages, and would display the tables as HTML pages on kiwix or toolserver. — Carl (CBM · talk) 00:37, 24 April 2008 (UTC)

I'll try to work on this, perhaps in a day. It should not be a lot of work.
I agree the script is running against its limits. I would not mind at all if it is replaced, but I don't have time to do it myself. You're more than welcome to give it a try. Let's hope that the replication server won't have the same problems it had a couple of years ago when it was weeks/months behind.
Before something of this magnitude is undertaken, however, we may want to consult with the other folks at WP 1.0 and see if they agree with migrating the whole thing off Wikipedia. Cheers, Oleg Alexandrov (talk) 04:49, 24 April 2008 (UTC)
Done (belately). Now there is Wikipedia:Version 1.0 Editorial Team/Index2 where the second part of the index resides, with the first part in the old place, Wikipedia:Version 1.0 Editorial Team/Index. This is a stop-gap measure, more thought needs to be given to how best to split a big index into subindices. Oleg Alexandrov (talk) 21:21, 26 April 2008 (UTC)
(hijacking the thread) Well, this gives us the opportunity to split the index in theme-based areas (e.g. using the Directory as a content index) and split the bot according to the directory tree. That way, that gives another incentive to keep the Directory up to date. Titoxd(?!? - cool stuff) 23:43, 10 May 2008 (UTC)
Good point. But unfortunately the time I have for Wikipedia recently is little and sporadic due to work and family commitments, and I feel that the thing you propose could take a good amount of time. Is there anybody else who is willing to work on such a routine? I can help debug it and hook it up in the main code. Oleg Alexandrov (talk) 02:11, 11 May 2008 (UTC)
Re Tixotd: I am hoping to form a group going in the next month or so to work on redesigning WP 1.0 bot. Although the motivation for a redesign is mostly that the bot has outgrown the methods it uses, we can add new features like this at the same time. Would you be interested in helping plan the redesign? I need both people who can write code and people who can discuss what the user-visible results of the code should be. — Carl (CBM · talk) 12:09, 12 May 2008 (UTC)
I know zero Perl, but if I can help some other way, sure. Titoxd(?!? - cool stuff) 20:06, 12 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Question about renamed project

Hey Oleg, I was wondering if your bot can use the proper link on Wikipedia:Version 1.0 Editorial Team/Green Bay Packers articles by quality. As you can see the two links to the project page and talk page are the old names of the WikiProject. A while back, the project was renamed to Wikipedia:WikiProject Green Bay Packers. I was wondering if you could put the new name and link on that page? Thanks, « Gonzo fan2007 (talk ♦ contribs) @ 08:51, 27 April 2008 (UTC)

I think that if you put the new name in the index, the bot will propagate it everywhere else at the next run. Try to see if it works. Oleg Alexandrov (talk) 16:55, 27 April 2008 (UTC)
That worked! Thanks a lot! « Gonzo fan2007 (talk ♦ contribs) @ 17:26, 27 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] most linked

Hello.

Whatever happened to most linked math articles? Katzmik (talk) 15:55, 28 April 2008 (UTC)

It is in the old place, at User:Mathbot/Most linked math articles. It has not been updated since August I think. I have very little free time to work on it recently, I'll try to update it at some point though. Oleg Alexandrov (talk) 03:00, 30 April 2008 (UTC)
It looks like a blank page to me. JRSpriggs (talk) 14:15, 30 April 2008 (UTC)
This is a long-time bug in Mediawiki that has started to be more prevalent lately. If a page is too big and complex, Mediawiki will run out of memory, and the page will come back blank. The only solution is to make the page smaller by breaking it into parts. There isn't any way to predict when this will happen, all we can do is react to it. This is the third page in the last week that I have seen have this problem. — Carl (CBM · talk) 14:21, 30 April 2008 (UTC)
I split the page in two, the second part is at User:Mathbot/Most linked math articles2. Again, the page needs to be updated, when I find some more time for wiki activities. Oleg Alexandrov (talk) 20:23, 2 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Heads up

As per the boxed request at the top of Template talk:RfA, I'm informing you that I've made some edits to Template:RfA. The Transhumanist    23:38, 29 April 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for the note. That change is unlikely to break the bot, if it does, I'll patch it up. Oleg Alexandrov (talk) 03:00, 30 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] defintions will come to RV

I don't understand your edit summary. When you write, "They will come later." do you mean later in time, or later in the article? Pdbailey (talk) 15:21, 30 April 2008 (UTC)

I meant later in the article. I think it is good to start an article as informally and as simple as possible, and leave the more complex things for later. People should get the intuition first, before formal definitions. Otherwise too many people complain that math articles are too hard to read. Oleg Alexandrov (talk) 15:28, 30 April 2008 (UTC)
Okay, thanks. I wanted to clear that up before starting a discussion on the talk page. Pdbailey (talk) 16:34, 30 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Deletion of Skytran/Unimodal Page

Hi,

I just noticed that the page for SkyTran has been deleted (it has since been replaced with a ghost of what was once there). Because that page was deleted Image:SkyTran Seattle2.jpg was orphaned, and then deleted. I am extremely upset that this has happend. I and many other users have spend hours and hours on making that page complete, cited, and objective. Whoever deleted that page should have their admin rights completely and permenantly revoked. Whoever did that has greatly abused their power.

I suspect that the deletion was not either a mistake, nor a good faith deletion because that page was relatively large - it was not a stub.

Given that, would you mind looking up what happened to that page and let me know? A link to the afd (if there was one..) would be nice.

Thanks, Fresheneesz (talk) 06:54, 1 May 2008 (UTC)

Here is the deletion log.
A file with this name was previously uploaded, but has been deleted.

You should consider whether it is appropriate to upload this file. The deletion log for this file name is provided below:

    * 10:57, 26 April 2008 East718 (Talk | contribs | block) deleted "Image:<!-- -->SkyTran Seattle2.jpg" ‎ (CSD I5: Non-free image that was not used for more than seven days) (restore)

I'd be hesitant to restore it since the image is not free and unused. Oleg Alexandrov (talk) 20:19, 2 May 2008 (UTC)

Sorry, you misunderstood me. The picture is a very secondary issue. The deletion of the page SkyTran is what I am most concerned with. That page's deletion *caused* the disuse of the aforementioned picture. I care much less about the picture. Fresheneesz (talk) 23:51, 2 May 2008 (UTC)

OK. Here it is.

Deletion log

    * 16:14, 15 April 2008 MZMcBride (Talk | contribs | block) deleted "SkyTran" ‎ (csd r1) (restore)

Oleg Alexandrov (talk) 02:38, 3 May 2008 (UTC)

And for UniModal:

Deletion log

    * 23:08, 12 April 2008 JDoorjam (Talk | contribs | block) deleted "UniModal" ‎ (Reading through the article's history, it becomes clear that this was added to the project as purely promotional material. The bare bones that remain seem to outline an untested idea that no one wants to invest in.) (restore)
    * 03:15, 12 June 2006 JzG (Talk | contribs | block) restored "UniModal" ‎ (history merge)
    * 03:14, 12 June 2006 JzG (Talk | contribs | block) deleted "UniModal" ‎ (Merging history) (restore)
    * 03:13, 12 June 2006 JzG (Talk | contribs | block) deleted "UniModal" ‎ (Merging history) (restore)
    * 20:37, 5 June 2006 Marudubshinki (Talk | contribs | block) deleted "UniModal" ‎ (content was: '{{dated prod|concern = {{{concern|I would like this page (''and its talk page'') deleted in order for me to move the page UniModal/proposed here.}...') (restore)
    * 00:34, 19 April 2006 JzG (Talk | contribs | block) deleted "UniModal" ‎ (content was: '#REDIRECT Personal rapid transit/UniModal' (and the only contributor was 'Non-poster')) (restore)

Oleg Alexandrov (talk) 02:39, 3 May 2008 (UTC)

In your opinion, do you think this page was deleted properly? DO you think it should be restored. I strongly believe that this delete is a gross abuse. Fresheneesz (talk) 08:34, 3 May 2008 (UTC)
You can start a deletion review if you wish. Oleg Alexandrov (talk) 16:27, 3 May 2008 (UTC)
Ok. Thanks very much. Fresheneesz (talk) 22:26, 4 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Rename baryon decuplet image

The word "baryon" is misspelled in the title of Image:Barion decuplet.svg, but there does not seem to be any way for an ordinary user like me to move it to the correct name. Would you please move it? JRSpriggs (talk) 11:08, 1 May 2008 (UTC)

Done, see Image:Baryon decuplet.svg. I also moved to commons. Oleg Alexandrov (talk) 20:17, 2 May 2008 (UTC)
Thank you, Oleg. JRSpriggs (talk) 18:37, 3 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Alphabetical order

Oleg, could you look at the thread about your bot incorrectly alphabetizing things at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Mathematics? Michael Hardy (talk) 19:02, 3 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] RfD nomination of Signature (in mathematical logic)

I have nominated Signature (in mathematical logic) (edit|talk|history|links|watch|logs) for discussion. Your opinions on the matter are welcome; please participate in the discussion by adding your comments at the discussion page. Thank you. — Carl (CBM · talk) 18:03, 4 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Old

Hi there - it looks like MathBot didn't pick up the deletion discussions for 29 April last night? Black Kite 01:05, 6 May 2008 (UTC)

I guess the server was down. Apparently now it is working. Thanks for the note. Oleg Alexandrov (talk) 18:03, 6 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] bibliography format for mathematics articles

Hello,

I noticed that bibliographical references in math articles tend to follow the format usually used for physics papers. This is a bit odd. I suggest the mathscinet format. I have used it in all the articles I have written. There are a number of differences. For example, the year, instead of appearing in parentheses at the beginning of the entry, appears toward the end (before page numbers). Katzmik (talk) 17:24, 6 May 2008 (UTC)

Try raising this at the math wikiproject to see what people say. I am not sure there is an easy fix though. Wikipedia being a general-purpose encyclopedia, makes it harder to compartmentalize articles, I think, and we may have to live with many reference styles. Oleg Alexandrov (talk) 18:06, 6 May 2008 (UTC)
I did, and it certainly led to a lively discussion, though I seem to be in the minority of 1 (one). Katzmik (talk) 16:04, 7 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Mathbot, where are you?

We noticed that there have not be any recent changes to the mathlists. We miss him and his incredible useful service! JackSchmidt (talk) 02:53, 8 May 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for the note, I did not notice. Something happened to the computer the bot is running on, I found the daily cron job wiped out, and had to restore it. I now ran the bot by hand, and from tomorrow it will hopefully be back on regular schedule. Oleg Alexandrov (talk) 03:52, 8 May 2008 (UTC)
In the good ole days we had a cronjob on each server to restart cron on the other servers. What with budget cuts, these days we can only afford a cronjob to restart cron on the local server. What could possibly go wrong?
A tireless machine can only continue with a tireless mechanic willing to grease it occasionally. Thanks for your tireless work! JackSchmidt (talk) 04:03, 8 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] WP1.0 Bot

Let me know what you need, ill be glad to help, if i can Rankun (talk) 19:03, 10 May 2008 (UTC)

Thanks. :) But can you specify what you are willing to help with? :) My current need is to have a place at which to run the bot, and recently I was told that the system administrator at a server associated with Wikipedia will let me run it. Did you mean help with this? Oleg Alexandrov (talk) 20:36, 10 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Default thumbnail size

Hi. Note that default thumbnail size is a user-settable option. If you find default-sized thumbnail images too small on your screen, you should change the setting in your user preferences.--Srleffler (talk) 05:15, 13 May 2008 (UTC)

Thank you for your note. You are right. However, some pictures just don't show well as thumbnails. I don't want all the thumbnails to show up huge on my screen, but sometimes pictures must be bigger, to see what is going on in them. Oleg Alexandrov (talk) 15:22, 13 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Deleted edit

Recently, you deleted me edit to pascal's triangle:

Below are rows zero to sixteen of Pascal's triangle in table form (even numbers highlighted):
row # Pascal's triangle
0 1
1 1 1
2 1 2 1
3 1 3 3 1
4 1 4 6 4 1
5 1 5 10 10 5 1
6 1 6 15 20 15 6 1
7 1 7 21 35 35 21 7 1
8 1 8 28 56 70 56 28 8 1
9 1 9 36 84 126 126 84 36 9 1
10 1 10 45 120 210 252 210 120 45 10 1
11 1 11 55 165 330 462 462 330 165 55 11 1
12 1 12 66 220 495 792 924 792 495 220 66 12 1
13 1 13 78 286 715 1287 1716 1716 1287 715 286 78 13 1
14 1 14 91 364 1001 2002 3003 3432 3003 2002 1001 364 91 14 1
15 1 15 105 455 1365 3003 5005 6435 6435 5005 3003 1365 455 105 15 1
16 1 16 120 560 1820 4368 8008 11440 12870 11440 8008 4368 1820 560 120 16 1

Why? how is it not an improvement from the old one:

Below are rows zero to sixteen of Pascal's triangle: 
                                                1
                                             1     1
                                          1     2     1
                                       1     3     3     1
                                    1     4     6     4     1
                                 1     5    10    10     5     1
                              1     6    15    20    15     6     1
                           1     7    21    35    35    21     7     1
                        1     8    28    56    70    56    28     8     1
                     1     9    36    84    126   126   84    36     9     1
                  1    10    45    120   210   252   210   120   45    10     1
               1    11    55    165   330   462   462   330   165   55    11     1
            1    12    66    220   495   792   924   792   495   220   66    12     1
         1    13    78    286   715  1287  1716  1716  1287   715   286   78    13     1
      1    14    91    364  1001  2002  3003  3432  3003  2002  1001   364   91    14     1
   1    15    105  455   1365  3003  5005  6435  6435  5005  3003  1365   455   105   15     1
1    16    120   560  1820  4368  8008  11440 12870 11440 8008  4368  1820   560   120  16     1

? Please give me a good reason why the new one should not replace the old one. And I do not think that memory and/or space is an issue.— Supuhstar * § 18:44, 14 May 2008 (UTC)

I find the plain text triangle easier on the eyes than the table with cells and colors. I don't think it is relevant to color the even terms. I don't think adding the cells makes things align better. Oleg Alexandrov (talk) 20:17, 14 May 2008 (UTC)
On the contratry,
  1. the coloring of the evens is mentioned further down the article
  2. I cannot see how it is not easier on the eyes, as it is easier to read, the rows are labeled, and the numbers are clearly separated.
  3. How does it not make thing align better if they are, in fact, perfectly alingned?
  4. Finally, these are all opinions, and that is quite bias, which I believe is against one if not a few Wikipedian policies to remove something based on the fact that you simply "find the plain text triangle easier on the eyes" or "don't think adding the cells makes things align better," when many more people might say the exact opposite.
These are facts, not oppinions, and I would like them to be seen as such. — Supuhstar * § 21:09, 14 May 2008 (UTC)
Let's bring this to Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Mathematics#Pascal's triangle. Oleg Alexandrov (talk) 21:16, 14 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] WP 1.0 bot and moved pages

Someone noticed a bug and reported it at Wikipedia:Village_pump_(technical)#Pages_renamed. I'm not sure what causes that, so I added more debugging to the code to diagnose it. It may be that I need to change the way redirects are located; the API can resolve them itself now, and may be more reliable. I'll look into it again next week. — Carl (CBM · talk) 11:02, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

I replied there. Oleg Alexandrov (talk) 03:53, 21 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Mathbot

See this thread. The count on the RfA talk was totally off. Enigma message 02:49, 23 May 2008 (UTC)

wait, I think I figured it out. It generated it for the wrong user. My guess would be that the user generating the RfA didn't do it properly, because the bot thought it was for Blueking. Enigma message 02:57, 23 May 2008 (UTC)
I replied there. The user did not enter his user name correctly, and that caused the problem. Oleg Alexandrov (talk) 03:56, 23 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] WP 1.0 bot web form

Are you still searching for a home for the web form used for running this bot? -- Longhair\talk 04:00, 23 May 2008 (UTC)

Things are OK for now, I was allowed to run it on the kiwix.fr server where the regular scheduled bot runs also. Thanks for asking. Oleg Alexandrov (talk) 15:20, 23 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Assessment bot

I think you run the assessment bot, and I was wondering if it was possible to have it pick up and record the bottom-importance parameter a couple of WikiProjects have instigated. The category is Category:Bottom-importance articles. Thanks for your time and all the effort you have put into the bot, regardless of what you decide. Hiding T 21:43, 26 May 2008 (UTC)

Hi. The bot does not support this category for the moment. I am reluctant to add support for categories not agreed by WP 1.0 people as that's too much maintainance on my side, with more than a thousand projects currently. If you want this category to become standard and be supported for all projects, you can ask at WT:1.0/I. Cheers, Oleg Alexandrov (talk) 20:06, 27 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Re: synergetics coordinates

I replied again to you on talk:synergetics coordinates, and changed the article like you suggested: I think your notation is clearer and would probably be used if I was ever shown ℝ with + and n.--Dchmelik (talk) 08:15, 31 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Deletion policy

Please check out the situation with Systolic geometry for a beginner. Katzmik (talk) 13:28, 29 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] WP 1.0 bot

Hello! Could you please update the external links section in the bot's user page? Spent quite some time today in finding the new link. Thanks!--thunderboltz(TALK) 16:45, 30 May 2008 (UTC)

I updated it in the instructions, but forgot about the bot page. Done now. Thanks for pointing this out. Oleg Alexandrov (talk) 20:00, 30 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] How do I get the comments updated?

Hi. What do I need to do to get the Northwestern Hawaiian Islands_articles by quality table to update the comments? So far, they appear blank, but most of the 42 articles have comments. Thanks for any help you can offer. Viriditas (talk) 01:57, 31 May 2008 (UTC)

The page Talk:Northwestern Hawaiian Islands should appear in Category:Northwestern Hawaiian Islands articles with comments for the bot to see it. Then at the next bot run it will be picked up. See how this is done for the other projects on that talk page. Cheers, Oleg Alexandrov (talk) 02:21, 31 May 2008 (UTC)
Ok, it looks like (once again) a problem with {{WPHawaii}}. Thanks again. Viriditas (talk) 02:30, 31 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Small aesthetic change to MathBot

Hi there. For your MathBot (the one that posts a link to the editsummary usage), it might just be a good thing to make it post to toolserver.org instead of tools.wikimedia.org. Thanks! Soxred 93 05:58, 31 May 2008 (UTC)

Good point. I did not know about the new IP address. I'll have the bot point to the new location soon. Oleg Alexandrov (talk) 16:40, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
Done. Oleg Alexandrov (talk) 04:41, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] QR and mathdab

Your comment was (too little math to belong in Category:Mathematical disambiguation). I would suggest that since there is a non-trivial mathematical disambiguation, that is sufficient to warrant the categorisation. Would you like to say why you think not? After all, there are plenty of mathdab pages with three or fewer references. Richard Pinch (talk) 21:48, 1 June 2008 (UTC)

I don't feel that adding this to Category:Mathematical disambiguation (and therefore also to list of mathematics articles (Q) would add much value, as QR is more a general purpose disambig than a math disambig. But I don't feel strongly about it, and I'll leave it up to you to decide what you think is best. Cheers, Oleg Alexandrov (talk) 16:34, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] redirect Aitken's method

Hi Oleg, you changed the redirect of Aitken delta-squared process to Sequence transformations, I just undid this after re-establishing the former article. I think Sequence transformations is extremely ill written, it starts with a plainly wrong statement (in fact it seems to be about acceleration of convergence, rather). IMHO sequence transformations should be a) spelled in singular, b) contain material about generic sequence transformations (binomial, ...). Since you know the math part of WP way better than me, I invite you to participate in the discussion at Talk:Sequence transformations and give links to relevant material.— MFH:Talk 14:02, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

I replied there. Oleg Alexandrov (talk) 16:36, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] More WP bot

If you haven't seen it already, you may want to keep an eye on Wikipedia talk:Version 1.0 Editorial Team/Assessment#Ratification vote on C-Class, as it would add a new "by quality" class if there's consensus to do so. Titoxd(?!? - cool stuff) 03:10, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

I replied there. No problem supporting this on the technical side with WP 1.0 bot, once this poll is over and a decision is achieved (let me know what the decision would be in due time). Oleg Alexandrov (talk) 03:32, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] No new articles?

If we can believe what is says at Wikipedia:WikiProject Mathematics/Current activity, no new articles have appeared since June 1st. Michael Hardy (talk) 17:58, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

The machine on which the bot ran had problems. I think things should be back to normal tonight when Jitse's bot runs. Oleg Alexandrov (talk) 20:48, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] DFBot replacement?

Did you have any luck putting together a DFBot replacement? xenocidic (talk) 15:18, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

I have the code from Dragons flight. I have much less free time lately, and I don't know when I'll get to looking into it (especially considering that it is written in Python using the pywikipedia framework, while all my own coding was done in Perl). My own bot generates WP:OAFD, which, while not having information about what the tallies are, at least shows which discussions are open.
I do plan to get his bot working again, but this will be very long term. Anybody else having more time/python skills? Oleg Alexandrov (talk) 15:23, 6 June 2008 (UTC)
I've none at all, sir. =) I did create somewhat of a quick-hack workaround using PAGESINCAT for the categories I was looking to focus on, see User:Xenocidic/dashboard. only a few cats are colour coded at the moment though. xenocidic (talk) 14:28, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Boardvote sitenotice

As you removed the boardvote from the sitenotice, thought you might be interested in commenting at MediaWiki talk:Sitenotice#Boardvote. – Luna Santin (talk) 00:04, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Lie group image

Hi Oleg,

I came across this helpful image created by you. I'm having trouble editing it, so I thought perhaps I just ask you: Could you help me creating a copy which shows in addition that the thing is a manifold? I mean, just color a little arc in the lower part somehow reddish and make an isomorphism arrow and a line underneath, such that the image caption can explain that it is an local diffeo? I want to put this on the group article, whose readers may/will not know what a manifold is.

Thank you,

Jakob.scholbach (talk) 12:18, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

Here's something I tried, you can tweak it further in inkscape (this program is rather easy to use). Cheers, Oleg Alexandrov (talk) 20:30, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

Perfect! I'll try out inkscape at some time. Currently I always use Mathematica, which is sometimes troublesome. Jakob.scholbach (talk) 21:07, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] ru:Википедия:Проект:Альбомы

Добрый день,

Не могли бы вы пожалуйста помочь с ботом User:WP 1.0 bot для правильного обслуживания страницы ru:Википедия:Проект:Издание Википедии/Статьи проекта Альбомы по качеству. Большое спасибо заранее.--Rubikonchik (talk) 02:17, 11 June 2008 (UTC)

Hi. I am writing in English because I don't have a Russian keyboard and my English is better than my Russian.
I would be very happy to give away the bot code for use at the Russian Wikipedia, and I will gladly help make it work.
However, I cannot supervise it myself. I have little time, and supervising a bot at a different Wikipedia can be a lot of work.
Is there somebody at the Russian Wikipedia who knows some Perl? I can help that person install and run the bot. Cheers, Oleg Alexandrov (talk) 02:52, 11 June 2008 (UTC)
Thank you for your answer. Yes I found an inetrested person at Russian Wikipedia knowing the Perl. It is ru:Участник:Голем (ru:Участник:Mashiah Davidson) and he is interested [6]. Could you please get in contact with him to make sure the bot runs on Russian Wikipedia please? Thank you so much again in advance.--Rubikonchik (talk) 16:41, 12 June 2008 (UTC)
There is a link at User WP 1.0 bot to the source code and to the instructions on how to use it. The best thing to do would be to follow that and see if there are any problems. If yes, I'll be glad to help. (I'll let Mashiah know on his talk page too.) Oleg Alexandrov (talk) 02:31, 13 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Are Reviews of Products' Qualities and Characteristics Acceptable as External Links?

Hi!

I am hoping you will kindly address this matter as I am confused.

I see that external links I added to reviews of Laphroaig, Buffalo Trace, and Johnnie Walker whiskeys were deleted (June 2) and warnings were issued that they were unacceptable. I do not understand why.

I have reviewed the Wiki rules and I do not see the problem.

The publication that produced the reviews of these products is an objective, independent publication that has no financial relationships to the producers of these whiskeys. The publication has been online 10 years and is widely read in the beverage professionals and enthusiasts.

Am I to understand that including in Wikipedia links to product assessments is unacceptable? If that is the case, then much editing must be done, as many entries (beverages, books, artists, etc.) include mentions assessments by reviewers or critics.

Thank you for your assistance! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 140.147.142.212 (talk) 14:11, 11 June 2008 (UTC)

I suggest you communicate with the user who warned you, at User talk:Quaeler. I do agree that this could have been viewed as you trying to promote that web site. But ultimately, again, talk to the user in question. Oleg Alexandrov (talk) 14:32, 11 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] help

Hi Oleg, i have a pdf file, a commutative diagram. how does one put that in an article? thanks. Mct mht (talk) 22:04, 11 June 2008 (UTC)

Not easy. First open that in Acrobat reader. Then "print to file" the page with diagram in question, that should create a PS file. Then, open that in some image editor (I use Gimp). Crop the desired region. Save as PNG. Upload to Wikipedia. If this does not work, let me know. Cheers, Oleg Alexandrov (talk) 22:47, 11 June 2008 (UTC)
that worked. much thanks. Mct mht (talk) 02:32, 12 June 2008 (UTC)
Yeah, but Image:Elliott's theorem.png is not of such good quality. Did you try setting a higher resolution in the graphics editor when importing from postscript? Oleg Alexandrov (talk) 03:08, 12 June 2008 (UTC)
gave it another shot there. Mct mht (talk) 03:19, 12 June 2008 (UTC)
At full resolution it looks great, but as thumb it is still blurry. But I guess there's only that much you can do with a pdf. Oleg Alexandrov (talk) 03:27, 12 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Standing wave

Nice animation! Crowsnest (talk) 15:42, 12 June 2008 (UTC)

Thanks. :) Oleg Alexandrov (talk) 15:43, 12 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Running the bot manually

I tried using http://www.kiwix.org/~oleg/wp/wp10/run_wp10.html to run the bot for "India (food)" project, it was erroring out. Can you please check? Thanks, Ganeshk (talk) 11:00, 13 June 2008 (UTC)