User talk:Richard Pinch

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What is there to discuss? Welcome, Richard. Charles Matthews 19:10, 10 August 2006 (UTC)

Contents 1 G Harrises 2 Chaplin Society 3 Unabomber & Low-resolution terminology 4 New AfD on LoPbN 5 WikiProject Bristol 6 Bonnell 7 Notability of Ronald True 8 Office of Works 9 Effectiveness 10 Compton House redirect 11 International Congress on Industrial and Applied Mathematics 12 Archibald Smith 13 Archibald Smith 14 Copyright problem: Archibald Smith 15 James Inman 16 CfD nomination of Category:Senior wranglers 17 More maths grads 18 AfD nomination of Emma Wilson 19 Redfearn v. Serco Ltd

[edit] G Harrises

_ _ Let me add my welcome, and this further discussion: i noticed you via List of people by name: Harr#Harris, A-J, and i'm pleased to have someone especially well informed working on clarifying this pitfall.
_ _ My angle on it is pretty much standardization of the LoPbN-tree entries; i'm probably the one who substituted the generic "archaeologist" for "Egyptologist" and came up w/ "fl. c. 2000" for "your" GH. I'm hoping you can help me feel my way thru that task in the case of these two bios. Let me start by addressing both of those parts of the entries, in light of the underlying nature of the list: it is a navigational tool, designed to get users with a rough idea of a figure's name (or of its spelling) to the article with their bio, where info on them lies; conversely, it is not intended as a place for directly looking up info on those same people, and we make no effort to accommodate those trying to use it for that. (But we create an expectation on what to include, by using very seldom more than this very tolerable level of detail: time, nationality, and main cause of notability -- even where they are redundant: "WS (1564-1616), British playwright" is massive overkill, far beyond what is needed to distinguish him from all the other Shakespeares!)

1. If at all possible, we want some kind of year within the subject's life. Of course the gold standard is birth and death (tho only the articles distinguish month or day with a year), but when neither is available, we need some kind of date, for which we tend to bend the traditional usage of "floruit", avoiding the impedimenta of a range of years (or of decades or centuries) than help make the distinction. In the case of the "fl. 2000" you removed, it is better than nothing by eliminating confusion with similarly named Egyptologists of say 1940 or 1810. (Looking at her biblio, tho, i find "fl. late 20th century" more accurate -- and more helpful for distinguishing her from the "fl. c. 2000" one.)
2. Almost without exception we identify the main cause of notability, but keep it "low resolution": Physician, not pediatrician; politician, not usually their specific office(s); hockey player (notable athletes are too numerous not to have some indication of their respective sport), not field hockey backfielder. (Perhaps ignoring distinctions a bit cavalierly, i treat Egyptologist as simply the Egypt-focused species of archaeologist, and worry not whether the relative wealth of texts separates them from the dirt-sifters.)
   

_ _ I'm not satisfied that Gerry Harris is sufficiently notable for a bio (sometimes we talk about "the average professor" being "n-n", i.e., non-notable), but that's not your fault, nor would it mean your submitting it was wasted: IMO, your GH's bio will need a section listing works likely to be misattributed to her, if we sack the others bio.
_ _ So i guess i'm hoping for you to let me know

• if our disagreement about "archaeologist" is simply abt your unfamiliarity with my "lo-res trmnlgy", and
• if you'd agree that "fl. late 20th century" is better than nothing. (I'm not trying to wring a DoB out of you, especially since what we use is supposed to be verifiable, and it hardly makes sense to go about making it so.)

And you may well have questions for me.
_ _Thanks, and again welcome; don't worry that you need to establish yourself as a Wikipedian in order to accomplish your personal goals in cleaning up our GH mess, but it looks like you have the instincts of, well, care that make for good editing, and it looks like your subject expertises will be welcome. Those of us who are noticing you will be rooting for your sticking around.
--Jerzy•t 23:38, 25 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Chaplin Society

FYI, this article has been nominated for deletion discussion Bwithh 22:47, 29 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Unabomber & Low-resolution terminology

Thanks for the Underwood brothers. As to the Unabomber, no one coming to List of people by name: Un is going to be helped reach his article by knowing his personal name, and that info is quite adequately accessible in the bio -- as is his death and injury toll, a more nuanced discussion (i assume) than LoPbN could conceivably accommodate of why he's described as a terrorist, the fact and nature of his doctorate, his current and prospective status, his fateful misjudgment that did him in, and, well, a full encyclopedic bio. Plz keep up the good work!
--Jerzy•t 01:50, 19 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] New AfD on LoPbN

Your continued good work on the LoPbN tree suggests you'd support its retention. At this moment, vote is 10 Del to 8 Keep on Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of people by name (2nd nomination). I would appreciate it, if you care to weigh in. Thanks in any case, and happy holidays.
--Jerzy•t 16:50, 1 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] WikiProject Bristol

—Gasheadsteve 11:45, 18 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Bonnell

Hi- can you explain your edit to List of mayors of Portland, Oregon? I don't find any Allison Bonnells via Google that match Portland. Seems like an unusual name for a man, and I know Portland didn't have any female mayors that far back. -Pete 07:41, 3 May 2007 (UTC)

Allison Bonnell is redlinked as successor in the article Hugh O'Bryant. I have no better source ... Richard Pinch 16:41, 3 May 2007 (UTC)

Good 'nuff! Thanks. -Pete 18:07, 3 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Notability of Ronald True

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[edit] Office of Works

Greetings,

I notice you originally laid the groundwork for this article, and supplied some references on its history. Do you think you could supply a little more information on the composition of the Board of Works at various times? Beatson's Political Index, for instance, makes reference to a "Surveyor of Private Roads", alias "Keeper of the King's Private Roads, Gates and Bridges", a "Paymaster of the Board of Works", and a "Surveyor of Gardens & Waters, etc." It would be interesting to be able to describe some of these offices in brief. Yours, Choess 16:34, 9 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Effectiveness

I have been asked to do something about effective results in number theory, which has been a slow developer (well, we do at least have articles about the main results now, which wasn't true in 2003). It would be interesting to have, for example, something about how examples of the Mordell equation were solved post-Baker. Charles Matthews 20:52, 25 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Compton House redirect

Can you explain the significance of the Compton House redirect that you made. I wanted to send that redirect to Arthur H. Compton House. TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/tcfkaWCDbwincowtchatlotpsoplrttaDCLaM) 17:51, 27 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] International Congress on Industrial and Applied Mathematics

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[edit] Archibald Smith

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[edit] Archibald Smith

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[edit] James Inman

Thanks for adding information on James Inman -- I had been meaning to do this since I added his name to the Garsdale page. I will expand slightly when I get further information via some of his descendants who still live in Garsdale. Dbfirs (talk) 08:09, 17 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] CfD nomination of Category:Senior wranglers

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[edit] AfD nomination of Emma Wilson

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[edit] Redfearn v. Serco Ltd

I've replied to the note you put up on the 2003 Reg's page. Any other way I can help, just ask! Wikidea 00:01, 4 June 2008 (UTC)