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[edit] BLP question
Dear Persian Poet Gal, Thank you for coming by the Sahaj Marg page. I'm not very clear on the WP:BLP policy, but am concerned that the following comment impugns a couple of living persons, just to cast aspersions on their characters without evidence:
Can you please let me know what you think? Renee (talk) 17:06, 17 May 2008 (UTC)
- Thanks for the quick response. I actually thought we were doing pretty good on the article itself -- there doesn't seem to be disruptive editing -- just lots of discussion (some productive, some not) on the talk page. And, the BLP stuff is very confusing to me. I can see your point about the "recommended" line and will bring it up on the talk page. Renee (talk) 04:50, 18 May 2008 (UTC)
[edit] SAHAJ MARG CONTROVERSY
Poet Gal...
All attempts to bring forward and discuss content have met with "deleting" the content to be discussed and calling is either "soapbox", not WIKI "RULES", PRIMARY, ORIGINAL RESEARCH, etc...
[This] is the WIKI "GUIDELINES" that I am adhering to...check my bio...I have sat on many committees and have worked with many teams but if you think that "black-listing" or "threats of blacklisting" me is WIKI, to stop me from doing what I see as WIKI acceptable, go ahead an try... I have worked in "information dessimination" for years in NEWSPAPER (columns), TV (host of Talk show), and "information library on "ENVIRONMENTAL" issues and "DEVELOPMENT"... In Canada at least, we are still allowed to "discuss" in the open and I have received a MEDAL from our Governor General for service to the country and the PLANET in advancing Freedom of SPEECH for all, even for RELIGIONS and such SECTS as SRCM who would stiffle it... I want their MESSAGE out also, for all to see, but I want all information that is WIKI acceptable in the article also...I asked you and Sethie to get some broader input on some points...have you done so?
The guidelines interpretation by this "few" editors are not accurate and should be challenged by all who think that FREE SPEECH is what the INTERNET is advancing for all of us. When some (and groups, and cabals) use WIKI to PROMOTE and to MUZZLE any "controversies", then I will take on the battle, like so many others on WIKI and take on even the INDIA PROJECT of the Chamber of Commerce if I have to.
This is the "WIKI Guidelines" in the page you sent me... To discuss "CONTENT", we have to bring it forward and READ it... That is the problem... any item brought forth that is controversial is "DELETED" by some "admins" and others who are taking on the same tactic, thinking it is WIKI... that brings about a POV (of course) that is then "threatened" with BLOCKING by other Admins... ALLOW THE CONTENT TO BE DISCUSSED OPENLY AND FREELY IN THE DISCUSSION PAGE...
Focus on content, not on the other editor. Wikipedia is built upon the principle of representing views fairly, proportionately and without bias. When you find a passage in an article biased or inaccurate, improve it if you can. If that is not possible, and you disagree completely with a point of view expressed in an article, think twice before simply deleting it. Rather, balance it with your side of the story. Make sure that you provide reliable sources. Unreferenced text may be tagged or deleted - see Wikipedia:Verifiability.
4d-don--don (talk) 18:54, 17 May 2008 (UTC)
Poet Gal...
Point taken... I will use less "colour" in the future... ;-))
Gotta laugh, because it's not funny!
4d-don--don (talk) 04:12, 18 May 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Thanks
4 the block on User 71.81.82.79. I get so tired of these twits... One other thing: how do I get that "time/date" clock on my page? Trekphiler (talk) 14:43 & 14:47, 18 May 2008 (UTC)
Thank you very much for blocking Mitsomega. He has been vandalizing my userpage far too many times. I can finally sleep peacefully because of your work. Thanks. Montgomery '39 (talk) —Preceding comment was added at 21:45, 20 May 2008 (UTC)
[edit] UN-WIKI practices on Sahaj Marg discussion Pages
Poet gal...
For your information, I present these recent events on Sahaj Marg discussion page. This (tactic) was also done to Shashwat before me, frustrating him to the point that then got him blocked. If you read my "comments" as not "WIKI acceptable" and/or "light-hearted" then please let me know...I feel that this and the rest of the comments on the discussion page as "suggested" by Sethie are not according to WIKI guidelines for "admins", who should be more "concensual"...
This marginalizing and "isolating" of "dissenting" voices who bring forth "controversies" or differences is what is now commonly called "bullying" in our schools and which is being covered in the MEDIA daily because of the "emotional" retaliation of the "BULLIED" (just like Shashwat)... Keep this for a record of the tactics used. I trust you to be fair and "concensual"... You can read the rest of the discussion (today's May 18, 2008) on the Sahaj Marg discussion page and read the "TONE".
I hope this (last paragraph) is not too "colourful" ;-))
Thanks
4d-don
To this comment Sethie:
Well, Shashwat is gone, and 99% will be permanently banned or topic-banned (meaning he won't be able to edit this article and others). With his disruptive activities gone, things are/will be alot easier. Sethie (talk) 22:23, 14 May 2008 (UTC)
I wrote this on his [talk page] as part of another comment from him in my talk page:
Which bring me to Shashwat...
To "black-list" or "bad mouth" Shashwat, a victim of this group (SRCM-Chennai) not SAHAJ MARG, is not constructive as we also need, or could use, the input of "honorable" victims, such as Shashwat in the discussion. Although we can't allow allegations (even in court cases) and anecdotes to enter the article, the input of victims is "healing" to them and is helpful to us in writing the article. (Court JUDGEMENTS however are NPOV and should be as acceptable in a WIKI article as they are in a NEWSPAPER article, if we use "COMMON SENSE".) To black-list the VICTIMS is to victimize them again, by stopping their "story" from being believed and accepted... Victims are sometimes "emotional" but are we not all emotional at times... I would like you to remove this "blocking" of Shashwat on WIKI (99%) as a "good faith" WIKI participant, a "fellow human being", and compatriot of many in Sahaj Marg. I would like the "hearts of our children all together again"...trying to reach concensus in FAIRNESS...Shashwat is not a "vandal" and tries to be fair through his pain. His family was just negatively affected by this group... let's help him heal...
I don't know the others such as "talk-to-me" or cultfreeworld" but if they are "blocked" also, I would like to see them participate also, if only in the discussion... The article can be "protected" at any time. Black-listing is so RELIGIOUS and so DIVISIVE...that would show "good faith" to me... I do not erase other editor's "POV" (and they are there)...and I don't attempt to have some editors "blocked" forever.
I appreciate this attempt to be "concensual" and your revealing things about yourself. I will return to being "civil", try not to express my own POV so much. (as much as I can), and try to work in a "concensual" manner.
We should review what is "WIKI" acceptable and what is not...
Sethie replied:
I didn't block Shashwat, I can't unblock him. And if I could, I wouldn't. He has consistently shown an unwillingess to play within wiki parameters.
I don't know Shashwat. I just know of his activities here on Wikipedia. And they have been pretty yucky, not just by my standards, but by the communities. He has been blocked 3 times as CFW, had a sock account blocked, and has yet to find ONE experienced wikipedian who agreed with ANYTHING he has said.
Sethie (talk) 00:28, 16 May 2008 (UTC)
Then, he left this on [my talk page]:
Since his block, has Shashwat or Cult-free world contacted you and asked you to post or say certain things here on wikipedia for him? And have you done so?
Thanks, Sethie (talk) 20:13, 16 May 2008 (UTC)
To which I wrote on his [talk page]:
I know Shashwat from the Internet...this other cfw, you seem to say is also Shashwat? He has not confirmed that to me, and I don't care either way...just a name... Maybe I will ask him! Thanks...What about talk-to-me?
and later:
Shashwat...
Thank you for not "black-listing" Shashwat...For your information, I have agreed with some of the material he brought forth and tried to "re-write" and edit some other...Being wrong does not mean being EVIL (VANDAL). At first, I usually let all people expose all of their "POV's" without erasing, and then I attempt to wittle it down to a "FAIR" and "CONCENSUAL" article with all... I have never had the opportunity to "finish" as there was always another EDITOR (from another group) reverting, changing, etc... so I stood out for a while until it calmed down...When I did, the article was deleted...
It is not harder for me to deal with Shashwat or other "victims" who are sometimes "emotional" in their wanting to EXPOSE their PAIN, and express their POV in "no uncertain terms", as it is to deal with someone who thinks they are right "intellectually" and think that skewing the interpretation of "guideline" without the filter of "common sense" (which they wrongly think they use all the time without "skewing"), means that they are telling the TRUTH and are interpreting the WIKI policies "accurately"...
To which Sethie replied:
"you seem to say is also Shashwat?" I have been saying this for over a month. When you say "seem to say" I don't trust your tone or your words. I do trust that you have never asked him.
I could give a crap if this article leads people to SCRM (I don't hope that it does). However I do care that wikipolicies are maintained. That is my only concern here. "so as not to "collude" and attract unintentionally, recruits for the group because of the WIKI article..." That agenda will, I predict, has and will lead you, as it did me, to not follow wikipedia policy.
You keep saying basically the same things over and over. Concensus is against you. Find someone on wikipedia who agrees with you. None of us do. Sethie (talk) 20:07, 16 May 2008 (UTC)
4d-don Replied
I was trying not to "put words in your mouth" as I don't know that for a fact and have never had it confirmed...I know you think so (POV), but I don't. You say the same thing over and over also (POV)...and your claim to speak for "all on WIKI" is also a little POV I think (my POV)...OH! OH!, I'm in trouble now! lol ;-)). Concensus is not against me, except you seem to believe (POV) that "in your mind" it is. That is why I will go to a "broader" concensus of WIKI membership... When you say: "none of us" you are of course, not speaking for others and are WIKI (good faith) as you express your POV. ;-)). You are allowed your POV by me and I joke about it only for fun. I will not have you blocked, or report you to "persian gal" but will ask for broader INPUT on the issues at hand unless we can reach a "concensus" among us.
About Shashwat...I converse with him regularly and he comments on my blog sometimes, but have refused to "conspire" or collude with anyone to "destroy" any person's "belief", or carry anyone's "words". My job as an INFONAUT is to INFORM not DESTROY. I have not asked him and/or he did not confirm anything (I don't think so, if he did, it went by un-noticed by me) about his WIKI stance, id,... except I was told that he was "BLOCKED" (by him and you) and I know where he stands from reading him. He is a "VICTIM". On this SRCM matter I "speak" no opinion but my own in the discussion, and I try to adhere to WIKI's NPOV policy in the Article. If you speak to Shashwat as you do with me here, he may tell you that "I betrayed" him quite a few times...lol ;-))
Then Sethie posted this on the [Sahaj Marg Discussion page]:
'I have noticed that as soon as Shashwat was blocked your tone and conversation style underwent a radical change. Now it seems to go back and forth between the Don I know and a Don I don't know. Until you answer this question 22 there is nothing further to discuss. I would ask others to reframe from dialogueing with Don as well until he has been open and honest about that. Sethie (talk) 21:01, 17 May 2008 (UTC)'
4d-don Replied
Sethie...
Ha! ha! ha! You're funny! Specially after I answered you that question on your talk page! The Answer then and is now: NO! I speak for myself only!! But many readers agree with me. Maybe you think that I'm Shashwat also? ARE YOU BEING POV or ?? are you on a "SOAPBOX" or a MISSION? Can I ask you a question about your private "conversations" with Renee? (lol.. ;-))) I told "Poet Gal", I would not use "colour" but you guys are too much! ... One has to laugh! How does one become like that?
Since the "admin" ecourages "reFRAME from dialogueing", as per WIKI guidelines, I guess that means that we will have to talk directly through the article... but I will wait and confirm all my input, as I usually do, with other "admins" first and then post directly to the article...
Keep on the Sunny Side of LIFE...
4d-don--don (talk) 04:34, 18 May 2008 (UTC)
And then Sethie:
Thanks for your clear answer to that question.
I am tired of you making personal, insulting comments about me. I am striking them out.
If this is the best you can do, after me talking with you, after Persian Poet Girl talking with you, then please, go away. Sethie (talk) 05:36, 18 May 2008 (UTC)
4d-don--don (talk) 17:52, 18 May 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Your barnstar pasted elsewhere
Hello, I assumed that this barnstar pasted on this blocked user's page is not yours and reverted the User:Zippycup who added it to a blocked user's user page. I have been re-reverted by an IP and the BS is back on the user page. I have also left a note at User talk:Zippycup who has ever since moved his talk page elsewhere. Just letting you know. Prashanthns (talk) 19:11, 18 May 2008 (UTC)
[edit] reply
I have replied to you on my talk page. Peace! Sethie (talk) 02:54, 19 May 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Thanks
Thanks for reverting the move vandalism with my user and talk pages. That sure came out of nowhere. =\ Oh, well. =) -- Gogo Dodo (talk) 06:24, 19 May 2008 (UTC)
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- No problem. I autorefresh my Firefox tab containing the move logs anytime I log on now. I stare at them occasionally to see if anything fishy is going on.¤~Persian Poet Gal (talk) 06:26, 19 May 2008 (UTC)
Thanks!... for reverting the vandalism on my talk page.
--Badgernet (talk) 22:16, 20 May 2008 (UTC)
- Thanks again for reverting the vandalism on my user page. =) -- Gogo Dodo (talk) 20:16, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Changes?
Hello again. I assume you remember commenting at User:RyRy5/Admin Coaching on the oppose section. In your opinion, have I changed since then? I would like your opinions on this. You should check my contributions also if you don't mind. Thanks.--RyRy5 (talk ♠ wikify) 03:51, 20 May 2008 (UTC)
- Thank you. I agree that the only problem for me was the copyright problems. I'm starting to realize some edits I've done wrong through my adoption with User:Steve Crossin, more in particular User:Steve Crossin/Adoption. I believe I'm slowing down on the editing, mostly just enjoying real life and thinking about my contributions here. Ever since that time you commented about me, I never used "per nom" !votes. I've learned that backing up your vote with links, external links, wikipedia policies such as WP:MUSIC and why it fails that policy is better than "per nom" !votes. I have one last thing to ask you, is contributing to the help desk a good thing? I've started contributing there and I try to help out however I can.--RyRy5 (talk ♠ wikify) 04:28, 20 May 2008 (UTC)
[edit] a shiny
| The Defender of the Wiki Barnstar | ||
| Many times you clear out CSD and AIV when several users are on Huggle at the same time. You also prevent or end the massive vandal revert-wars that occur while waiting for someone to clear AIV. In recognition of these facts, I, J.delanoygabsadds, hereby award you this Defender of the Wiki Barnstar along with my sincere thanks. J.delanoygabsadds 04:08, 20 May 2008 (UTC) |
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- Goodness gracious people are being kind to me lately ^_^...is it the coming the apocalypse or something?!¤~Persian Poet Gal (talk) 04:09, 20 May 2008 (UTC)
- And also thanks for keeping the Soda clean. He was wasting the time of at least two editors. -- SEWilco (talk) 05:05, 20 May 2008 (UTC)
[edit] (from 4d-don)
Poet Gal...
How does one take an "edit conflict" to MEDIATION with WIKI?
I would like a "boader opinion" than the small group of editors on the Sahaj Marg Page as "concensus" is not possible and some editors with dissenting voices are kept away by the tactics of "fake concensus" used on this discussion page. All we need is a place for a Broad WIKI Community to vote on wether to include or reject an EDIT where there is conflict.
Could you send me the link to how the decision-making process takes place? Who decides who won? Is it just "numbers"?
4d-don--don (talk) 18:29, 20 May 2008 (UTC)
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- Responded on your talk page.¤~Persian Poet Gal (talk) 20:37, 20 May 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Automated external defibrillator
You issued a final warning to the IP vandal that had done 10 separate deletions on this article. Subsequent to your warning, the person vandalized again. You may want to consider a block. Thanks. TimidGuy (talk) 20:15, 20 May 2008 (UTC)
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- If they did so several hours ago then there is no need to block since they stop. I'll look into it though and see if they continued recently. Thanks for bringing it to my attention :).¤~Persian Poet Gal (talk) 20:37, 20 May 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Barnstar
| What a Brilliant Idea Barnstar | ||
| For this brilliant idea. Need I say more? :D Steve Crossin (talk) (review) 01:35, 21 May 2008 (UTC) |
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- Wow you caught that quick ^_^! Thanks...I swear too many barnstars for one month!!!¤~Persian Poet Gal (talk) 01:37, 21 May 2008 (UTC)
Yep, I saw it on my watchlist :D Already installed. Erm, the button on your talk page header isn't clickable, I just fixed it :) The edits are here and here. Please no bite me :) Steve Crossin (talk) (review) 01:42, 21 May 2008 (UTC)
- Thanks, no worries :).¤~Persian Poet Gal (talk) 01:46, 21 May 2008 (UTC)
I just read this. It's actually pretty useful. Oh, and too many barnstars? Erm, I think I've received too many also. Is 49 barnstars too much altogether? No... --RyRy5 (talk ♠ copy-edit) 04:00, 21 May 2008 (UTC)
[edit] a little Help
Hi there, I love the Little Mosque on the Prairie , and wish to have media coverage from CBC into the Article Islam in Canada, can you help make sure this last on the page
Thanks.
Oingoboing69 May 21 2008 7:52 —Preceding unsigned comment added by Oingoboing69 (talk • contribs) 23:50, 21 May 2008 (UTC)
thanks for the the suggestion for Islam in Canada, I'm also trying to fix this other article Nelson Chan, recently it's been blocked and added with a AfD template, but ref has been provided, how do I go upon fixing the Article? Talk:Nelson Chan
thank you so much for the help so far--Oingoboing69 (talk) 13:54, 22 May 2008 (UTC)
[edit] IP sock block template question
Hi PPG. I see you're the admin who blocked User:Greg Jungwirth. An new RFCU has just confirmed (or semi-confirmed) another load of his socks. Do you happen to know what template is used for this combination:
- IP editor
- blocked for a year
- believed to be a sock (from a comment by Thatcher in an RFCU, though not 'checkuser confirmed')
I see there is an indef-blocked IP template, but I thought we didn't do indef blocks for IPs. Is this question too specialized? :-) Thanks for any ideas, EdJohnston (talk) 03:14, 22 May 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Thanks
| The RickK Anti-Vandalism Barnstar | ||
| For blocking our problem editer and returning my pages to the rightful names I herby present you with the RickK Anti-Vandalism Barnstar. You definately earned it :) TomStar81 (Talk) 09:48, 22 May 2008 (UTC) |
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- What the heck is happening...ANOTHER :DD??¤~Persian Poet Gal (talk) 09:49, 22 May 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Sahaj Marg
Poet gal...
I was not refering to you... I appreciate your input. Thanks for your help...
I will be taking the MEDIATION route, after I confer with "the team" (not the current editors) who would take part in a MEDIATION but do not want to waste their time "arguing " ad nauseum on a discussion page, when there is no hope for concensus without some "common sense" person involved to interpret the WIKI guidelines accurately... as it stands now, all the material put out by this GROUP (a faction of a divided Shri Ram Chandra Mission-SRCM who are currently in court over the ownership of the said: MISSION), including their PR, is deemed "UN-acceptable (self published). And only "ENGLISH" information is deemed "credible", for a GROUP that has a reputation in India (hindi), Asia, and Europe (italy, france, belgium, spain, etc..), so all the info from "the world press" in other languages, including from Governments, courts, newspapers, etc... is deemed un-acceptable, as it is not in English...
The volunteer "mediator" (one person) process does not appeal to me very much, as that process can easily be manipulated by a "GROUP"...that is what the ADMIN should do... besides that, I (or any biased member of any Group) could put my name forward as a MEDIATOR and skew that process, as the GROUP members have skewed the interpretation of the WIKI GUIDELINES on this particular article. I want to have a "Broader WIKI COMMUNITY" input so that the INTERPRETATION of WIKI GUIDELINES are not left to a small "GROUP" of 4 or 5 members of the GROUP in question...and an admin who has already decided on the issues... and does not encourage nor work towards "concensus" with COMMON SENSE. (not you)... ;-))
The controversy now? Sahaj Marg Meditation is only recommended for those over 18 yrs old.
The members of the GROUP (Sahaj Marg) don't want that sentence in the article even though it's in Books (by the Founder), articles, their PR, on their own sites, etc... but is not acceptable to them, and the "admin" (Sethie) (not you) agrees ... Not very "common sense"...and why? What is not acceptable with that sentence? It is accurate...and not controversial! They don't want to use the material they published included, IMHO, because the MASTER has said some "very outrageous things" and they don't want to open the FLOOD GATES to other SELF-PUBLISHED Material...imho. But that is not WIKI, just an self-serving interpretation of WIKI, and not COMMON SENSE.
I will research, confer, and proceed after... But as it stands, the article is just a PR for Sahaj Marg, and is not a balanced "encyclopedia" article with all the "controversies" included as in other WIKI articles on such "religious" and/or controversial groups. If we can't reach a concensus on a fair but balanced article, most (of the TEAM) already favour a "motion" to delete the article (again).
You gotta laugh, b'cause it's not funny...
4d-don--don (talk) 13:54, 22 May 2008 (UTC)
[edit] (from Hmichele)
- Dear Persian Poet Girl, how do you get your userpage to look so groovy? Hmichele (talk) 16:16, 22 May 2008 (UTC)
Eh heh, long story :). I like to play around with html, I'm no wizard but through trial and error, I get something reasonably ok out of it. I'll give you a hint, if you like to give yourself a groovy background try using <div> coding. This code:
<div style="border-style: none; text-align: left; border: #(color of the border) solid (thickness of the border)px; -moz-border-radius: 10px; background: #(color of the background); padding: 5px;">
Gives you the ability to give your userpage a background with a border. Use an html color chart for the colors (this may help) and just type a number for the thickness of the border. Write the content of your page under that code and then at the end of your page enclose it with this:
</div>
That's one tip for a "groovy" userpage as you call it :P.¤~Persian Poet Gal (talk) 19:16, 22 May 2008 (UTC)
- I'll see when I can get around to it. Thanks for that. Catch you later. Hmichele (talk) 03:49, 23 May 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Calling in a favour!
Small issue, seems my friend doesn't want to go and as such left a leaving note on one of the IP addresses recently blocked due to a RFCU which didn't go his way. Seeing as Greg is a sore loser and will goto whatever pages he can edit in order to push his hate campaign against me, can you please full-prot the talkpages for the confirmed IP addresses and the user talkpages that got caught in the checkuser? treelo talk 20:40, 22 May 2008 (UTC)
- Protecting each of them would be overkill. Just drop a note on my talk page when you see some trolling pop up and I'll take care of it ;).¤~Persian Poet Gal (talk) 20:42, 22 May 2008 (UTC)
[edit] :O
*hugs* -- Gurchzilla (talk) 19:18, 23 May 2008 (UTC)
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- Aww, *hugs back*, its a great tool...so I thought it would fit perfectly on that page :).¤~Persian Poet Gal (talk) 23:25, 23 May 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Grateful
I would be grateful if you could create an add for Wikipedia:WikiProject Political Parties. --Megapen (talk) 22:01, 23 May 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Hi
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[edit] User: Zippycup
This sockmaster is actually just a further sockpuppet of Yoshi525. He has whole networks that run through Wikipedia. I have to make sure that plenty of people know about this to stop further vandalism 86.148.164.181 (talk) 14:14, 24 May 2008 (UTC)
Stop deleting my messages. I've got to warn you about Yoshi's vendetta against the nth unity apostles. He plans a spree of vandalism, trageting imaginary numbers and algorithms 81.155.231.197 (talk) 17:16, 26 May 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Re: Mistake
Oops, just looked at the wrong side of the diff. Warnings removed. Thanks for the heads up. RedThunder 18:50, 25 May 2008 (UTC)
[edit] For your hard work against vandalism
| The RickK Anti-Vandalism Barnstar | ||
| I've come across your name many times while reverting vandalism. Many thanks for your hard work against vandalism - everyone who uses wikipedia appreciates the work you do! CrazyChemGuy (talk) 23:13, 25 May 2008 (UTC) |
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- ANOTHER?! This has been some magic month...goodness O.O.¤~Persian Poet Gal (talk) 23:15, 25 May 2008 (UTC)
[edit] (from 4d-don)
Poet gal...
All I am doing is trying to see how many readers (who don't edit) and others editors want that sentence included...SO it is an attempt to see what the true concensus is...I don't know what you mean by "meat-puppet" If you mean that the "voters" are me...then you are wrong...
I think that to see what the "CONCENSUS" is, is WIKI acceptable...If there is no-one who thinks like I do, then I will move on to another issue...If their are enough who think like I do, I will ask for mediation, I think...a formal one but I am still reading that sections...Will decide after I know the real numbers....
Please explain Sethie's accusation....again...
Don--don (talk) 00:33, 27 May 2008 (UTC)
Poet Gal...
I just read what "meat-puppet" means and that is exactly what SRCM the group in question is doing, they are members who are in a COI and are bullying all other editors from participating by "erasing" and refusing to use "common sense"...what is the recourse when "one person" (me) can't even reach a concensus on even Material that is in their own PR, but which they know they are not adhering to...the age limit...They are teaching meditation to KIDS...
What is the recourse to having that AGE LIMIT put in...when you are facing "meat-puppets" and when I ask for a broader concensus, I am accused of doing what they have done...controlled the dialogue with "meat-puppets", trying to remove all controversies and make this page a PROMO for their GROUP.
Do you really think that MEDIATION will work and that we won't get another "volunteer" who is a "GROUP member" or member of another "cabal"? ...then what?
If we can't fight the way the GROUPS do (what you call "meat-puppets"), then WIKI has been usurped by meat-puppets already...
4d-don--don (talk) 00:33, 27 May 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Sorry
Sorry about my previous user page. It wasn't intentional. I was just ignorant.JustinNumberOne (talk) 15:20, 28 May 2008 (UTC)
[edit] 212.24.224.18 (talk · contribs)
Teamwork. Keep up the great work =) --slakr\ talk / 21:37, 28 May 2008 (UTC)
- ^_^ You too.¤~Persian Poet Gal (talk) 21:38, 28 May 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Thanks for Helping
Thank you for your co-operation and helping to keep Wikipedia:Requested articles/music/Songs free from vandalism. As you can see from the history i am currently cleaning up this article. Machete97 (talk) 22:01, 28 May 2008 (UTC)
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- No problem. Happy editing!¤~Persian Poet Gal (talk) 22:02, 28 May 2008 (UTC)
If you know how to remove he contents box from an article it would be great if you could tell me how to do it. Also if you spot anything out of alpha order on the page that I've missed please correct it. How come your talk page says you're offline when you're not ? I've seen a few people with indicators like that that dont work. Is it one that you have to manually switch on when you come online like most of the others ? Machete97 (talk) 22:05, 28 May 2008 (UTC)
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- Mine is automatic and it was working for awhile (not sure about the moment)...by contents box do you mean the Table of Contents? You can remove that by using the following code __NOTOC__.¤~Persian Poet Gal (talk) 22:08, 28 May 2008 (UTC)
how do you use that code ? where do you put it? Machete97 (talk) 23:21, 28 May 2008 (UTC)
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- Just copy and paste it at the top of the edit box :).¤~Persian Poet Gal (talk) 23:23, 28 May 2008 (UTC)
ta muchly ;-) Machete97 (talk) 23:28, 28 May 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Something Sparkly for a Special Someone
Miss Princess Persian Poet Gal you deserve a hug and pat on the back for being 'mediator' in the ongoing 'discussion' between 4d-don and Sethie. I cannot imagine how frustrating an admins duty can be sometimes and for that reason i award you this in the hope you will continue your incredibly hard work which words just can't describe. What would we ever do without you? I really think you have been sent by Jimbo to spread everlasting love and peace and sheesh, i think even he would be impressed at how great a user you have become. You have the utmost love from all of us. What more can i say but give you this: You have dearly earnt it. Thanks, all the best with your studies and take care ;)
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| I, anonymous user give this award to the one and only Persian Poet Gal for making peace and having an everlasting impact on the Wikipedian community. Her efforts can never be taken for granted and i hope with this dedication it will make her realise how important she is to the community knowing we are always here for her. God Bless! 137.154.16.30 (talk) 02:01, 30 May 2008 (UTC) |
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- That's quite kind. Don't think I deserve all that flattery however :P. The mop comes with alot of flack but this community is very kind in return so I don't have much to complain about. Thanks.¤~Persian Poet Gal (talk) 02:05, 30 May 2008 (UTC)
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- Well thank you for accepting! Given im on a shared IP and my fellow students have not been so nice, I would have totally understood if you denied it. I am deeply honored that im the first anon. user on that list and i must admit im surprised. Though if i sent it from an account you would probably block me for harrassment because i would send you so many:) But i must thank you for your Vandal Fighters toolbox, thanks for revealing your intimate secrets about what makes you so good on Wikipedia, everyone will be using your script now :P Lastly: 'Persian Poet Gal ur edits r the air that i breathe and your presence on wikipedia is my blood, without you i could not live' Bye sweetie:) 137.154.16.30 (talk) 02:44, 30 May 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Copied from Alison's talk page
Found another one. What does "Account created automatically" mean on the user creation log? They all seem to have that notation rather than "New user account". NawlinWiki (talk) 00:36, 31 May 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Chebyshev
Excellent decision (in my opinion) blocking Chebyshev. I went to warn him based on this edit and his talk page was protected. A quick check of the logs and I could see what happened. I was wondering whether putting a {{blocked}} tag on the user and user talk pages might be a good idea. Either way, thanks for watching out for our project. --SSBohio 05:51, 31 May 2008 (UTC)
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[edit] User talk:Zachbraffhater
A username blockmessage would have been better. 209.244.43.113 (talk) 23:37, 31 May 2008 (UTC)
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- Any particular reason why you were interested in that block? And by the way, their edits were vandalism thus it wouldn't have been wised to u-block them as you typically do that with account creation left on.¤~Persian Poet Gal (talk) 23:39, 31 May 2008 (UTC)
- I was talking about the talk page, not log. 209.244.43.113 (talk) 04:37, 1 June 2008 (UTC)
- Sounds to me like you did exactly the right thing.
- I see you've got plenty of anti-vandalism barnstars. So how about a Vandal Whacking Stick? I discovered these a few days ago. They add variety to your awards, plus give you a handy weapon. Doczilla STOMP! 04:42, 1 June 2008 (UTC)
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- ...Thanks Is convinced the world is ending...I ain't suppose to be getting this many barnstars in one month :P?!!!¤~Persian Poet Gal (talk) 19:29, 1 June 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Erik Möller
Thank you for the quick action here. I suggest it be semi-protected and also permanently move-protected for admins only for the move protect part - because there is most likely no real reason to move the article. Cirt (talk) 01:47, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
- Sorry I was about to remove that auto notice myself but you did it first. Cirt (talk) 01:51, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Thank you
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- Thanks :).¤~Persian Poet Gal (talk) 02:12, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
- Speaking of thank yous, thanks for cleaning up my userspace after that Grawp hit. Acalamari 02:15, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
[edit] I just saw all those pages moves...
Maybe it's time to ask the developers for a feature that allows to oversight a page move. This looks like the same problem like when vandals where leaving messages on the edit summary, and there was still no tool to oversight those. --Enric Naval (talk) 02:32, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
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- The devs helped us oversight some recently. I'll see if I can help push it through to happen again.¤~Persian Poet Gal (talk) 02:33, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
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- Cool :) It seems like wikipedia keeps improving with time --Enric Naval (talk) 02:36, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Your status indicator
Hello, Persian Poet Gal. I assume your status indicator is updated by StatusBot. Well, status bot was just blocked indef so your status won't update by it self. You may have to try a different method. I can only think of updating it manually. Please reply on my talk page. Thanks, RyRy5 (talk) 06:52, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Two username spoofs
Postrussian Poet Lady. Second:The following is a transliteration of Persian Poet Gal into Russian, may not be completely correct, this is a spoof as others are unable to tell what it says, Пржн Поэт Гал. --209.244.43.113 (talk) 00:42, 4 June 2008 (UTC)
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- I looked up those names in the logs but I did not find any record of those accounts being created.¤~Persian Poet Gal (talk) 04:03, 4 June 2008 (UTC)
[edit] I think you made a mistake
In blocking this user for 24 hours for revealing personal info. when i think it was this user because the revert you did here the edit doesn't show up so that must have been the personal info. Am i correct? Just wanted to tell you thats all. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 137.154.16.30 (talk) 04:09, 4 June 2008 (UTC)
- Thank you for catching that! I removed the edit from the edit history and ended up missing the block button by one notch. I will lift the block on the inappropriately blocked account. As for the other IP, there is no more reason to block at this time because it is inactive.¤~Persian Poet Gal (talk) 04:25, 4 June 2008 (UTC)
[edit] :O
*huggles* -- Gurch (talk) 18:35, 5 June 2008 (UTC)
[edit] (from 24.28.70.129)
Why did you remove the stuff I wrote about Carl Crawford? He did punch Coco Crisp in the head and was even suspended for it. I totally think it is relevant as he is known around the league as a hothead and a violence starter. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.28.70.129 (talk) 00:15, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
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- Responded on your talk page.¤~Persian Poet Gal (talk) 00:18, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
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[edit] Please do not delete foreign articles as you've done with Kaptain Falkon!
Please do not delete foreign articles as you've done with Kaptain Falkon! They firstly have to be listed on WP:PNT, and, IF they won't be translated, they can be deleted. So, please, restore this article to Kaptain Falkon or User:Kubek15/Kaptain Falkon. Kubek15 (Sign!) (Contribs) (UBX) 16:47, 8 June 2008 (UTC)
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