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Also note: It is my policy not to delete or remove dialog from this page. Everything will be saved and archived. Please don't later remove from here what you've written (although, if you do, I will respect your wishes and not restore removed comments.
Lastly, if I do not reply to you immediately, it is not because I am ignoring you; I might be in the middle of a project on or offline :)

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[edit] Username change problem

Hey,

Thanks for changing my username, the problem is, the reason I gave for changing my name was to avoid having my name in the public eye, and now there's just another Google hit on my name showing what my name was changed to. Seems sort of self-defeating in nature. Is there any way, now that the name was changed, to delete that from the page? Thanks. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.111.8.226 (talk) 23:19, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Orphan cleanup bot?

Hi, I remember you had requested that a bot go back and check on orphan-tagged articles to see if they still were. Did that go anywhere? I poked around the Bot Request page, and found the discussion in the archives, but there didn't seem to be a definite decision either way. Let me know.--Aervanath's signature is boring 16:09, 25 April 2008 (UTC)

Nothing came out of that conversation. I've gone back to doing it manually. It takes me about one month to go through one month's worth of tags. Very tedious and time consuming. A bot would be very useful. Kingturtle (talk) 16:22, 25 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Username change

Thanks for doing the change. --JulesN Talk 06:36, 26 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Username change petition

Hi Kingturtle, I am a linguist and currently obsessed with Leet. It will be much appreciated if you can deal with my username change request: Flyming → Phlyming. Cheers! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Flyming (talk • contribs) 11:34, 28 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] WikiProjet Birds May 2008 Newsletter

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[edit] Bagram Airfield vs. Bagram Air Base

I have lived on BAF for the last year. I think I know what the place is named. Do you live and work here? Why is my changing the page from the incorrect "Air Base" to the correct "Airfield" an issue with you? Alexif (talk) 15:00, 2 May 2008 (UTC)

Wikipedia uses the most common usage as the title of the article. "Bagram Air Base" -wikipedia retrieves 183,000 hits, while "Bagram Airfield" -wikipedia retrieves 49.000 hits. I hope that explains it for you. Kingturtle (talk) 15:10, 2 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Speedy deletion of (Sri Lanka) Princess Diana Institute of Peace

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If you think that this notice was placed here in error, you may contest the deletion by adding {{hangon}} to the top of the page that has been nominated for deletion (just below the existing speedy deletion or "db" tag), coupled with adding a note on the talk page explaining your position, but be aware that once tagged for speedy deletion, if the article meets the criterion it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag yourself, but don't hesitate to add information to the article that would would render it more in conformance with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. Lastly, please note that if the article does get deleted, you can contact one of these admins to request that a copy be emailed to you. snowolfD4 ( talk / @ ) 16:14, 2 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] New Project

Myself and several other editors have been compiling a list of very active editors who would likely be available to help new editors in the event they have questions or concerns. As the list grew and the table became more detailed, it was determined that the best way to complete the table was to ask each potential candidate to fill in their own information, if they so desire. This list is sorted geographically in order to provide a better estimate as to whether the listed editor is likely to be active.

If you consider yourself a very active Wikipedian who is willing to help newcomers, please either complete your information in the table or add your entry. If you do not want to be on the list, either remove your name or just disregard this message and your entry will be removed within 48 hours. The table can be found at User:Useight/Highly Active, as it has yet to have been moved into the Wikipedia namespace. Thank you for your help. Useight (talk) 02:57, 3 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Mark L. Walberg

Hey, I noticed that you moved Mark L. Walberg to Mark Walberg and removed his middle initial on other pages. I just thought I'd point out that he is usually credited as "Mark L. Walberg". That's the way he's credited on The Moment of Truth, and it's the way he's listed on IMDb. It's probably to avoid confusion with the similar Mark Wahlberg. Even though they're not spelled the same, I would just feel more comfortable with going with the way he does his name unless there is a Wikipedia guideline or policy against it. Chicken Wing (talk) 21:17, 5 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Sure

Sure. --Bhadani (talk) 15:37, 6 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Wikipedia:Phony orphans

You might want to check out Wikipedia:Phony orphans, where I've posted the (partial) results of an analysis of the 2008-03-12 database dump. The analysis script should be finished in a few hours, at which time I'll finalize the list of phony orphans. I've left another note with the editor that runs the orphan checker bot. You and the bot were the most common editors to have already removed orphan templates from phony orphans, so I thought you might be able to make the most use out of the list. --Sapphic (talk) 23:25, 6 May 2008 (UTC)

That's awesome work you've done. Thanks for letting me know. Should I be aghast or proud that I am in company here only with a bot? :) Oh to have a positronic brain. Kingturtle (talk) 13:43, 7 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Bazargan, Afghanistan

You are welcome. And I didn't know. I must have come across a redlink to it on short page patrol (a dab page maybe) and then just went and created it rather than leave the redlink there. Just tidying up. :-) Carlossuarez46 (talk) 18:13, 7 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] dont' forget NisarKand

You always ignore NisarKand. That shows that you support Afghan nationalists.

If you are accusing Beh-nam, then don't forget user:Bistiks.


PashtoonBoy (talk) 19:58, 8 May 2008 (UTC)


Good job on ignoring him and allowing him to remove sourced content, and ignore years of consensus that Afghanistan is part of Middle East. PashtoonBoy (talk) 21:46, 8 May 2008 (UTC)

How can Afghanistan be part of Central Asia, South Asia and also the Middle East? Do you have brains? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Bistiks (talk • contribs) 12:12, 9 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Username

When you get a chance, would you mind approving my new user name JoeCool950, from my current one. The new one use to be my old user name. Thanks.--Joey Kaminski (talk) 02:52, 11 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Thanks

Thanks for changig my username JoeC 4321 (talk) 19:44, 11 May 2008 (UTC)


[edit] Notability of Haji Mohammed Zaher

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[edit] Wikipedia:Requests for bureaucratship/Avraham 2/Bureaucrat discussion

I wanted to comment there, but was unsure if it was for Bs only. Just to note that two opposes are declared as "weak" and several neutrals (myself included) lean to support. Feel free to repost this comment or ignore it... you guys have a tough job to do and have my trust as ever. --Dweller (talk) 12:36, 12 May 2008 (UTC)

From what happened with all the other bureaucrat chats, I believe comments are welcome on the talk page but the actual page is reserved for bureaucrats for signal to noise purposes. By the way, I used {{rfah}} to the debate - I hope this is OK. Cheers, Paul Yeratz (talk) 12:41, 12 May 2008 (UTC)
OK, I'll x-post. --Dweller (talk) 13:00, 12 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] RfB closure thanks

Hello, Tortoise Rex

I wanted to personally thank you for taking part in the discussion regarding the closure of my candidacy for bureaucratship. As you know, after your discussion, you decided that there was sufficient significant and varied opposition to my candidacy, and thus no consensus to promote. Although personally disappointed, I both understand and respect your decision, especially in light of historical conservatism the project has had when selecting its bureaucrats. As these discussions are specifically not mathematical, but qualitative as well, even after the discussions at Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/RfB bar and Wikipedia talk:Requests for adminship/RfB bar, I fully understand that your collective decision here was based on "significant and varied" for which there is sufficient evidence. So, while I cannot say I am happy with the decision, I can say that I am satisfied with the care taken to make it, and accepting of your collective judgment. Once again, thank you for your participation. -- Avi (talk) 21:16, 12 May 2008 (UTC)

My conclusion was based on weighing the opposition. There just wasn't sufficient support to overcome the valid opposition. I encourage you to continue your hard work here, and if you are still interested in becoming a bureaucrat, read the oppositions in your RfB closely and continue to grow. Cheers, Kingturtle (talk) 21:25, 12 May 2008 (UTC)
As I said, I understand that, but I am allowed the human emotion of disappointment, no? I hope you understand that I have no complaints against any of the current crats. -- Avi (talk) 21:26, 12 May 2008 (UTC)
Most definitely you're allowed that. It smarts. But look on the bright side. You made great progress between your first and second attempts. You've definitely grown in the eyes of your peers. Keep growing :) Cheers again :) Kingturtle (talk) 21:29, 12 May 2008 (UTC)
I shall try, regardless of any possible future candidacies. Also. KT, please feel free to hit my userpage upside the head with some advice in the future, if you think I warrant it. Thanks again! -- Avi (talk) 21:36, 12 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Change my username

Hello. Can you change my username from "Zunpl" to "Zun"? I'm asking, because I use Zun as my username in Polish wikipedia, which I main contribute. And can you answer on my polish talk page? Zunpl (talk) 20:28, 13 May 2008 (UTC)

Please make your request using Wikipedia:Changing username. I'll be happy to help you once that is done. Cheers, Kingturtle (talk) 20:53, 13 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Change Of Username

Thank a lot for changing my username. Daredevil555 (talk) 03:26, 14 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] User talk:Mdb1370

I have followed up on your note and advised the user to use the talk page for WP:Baseball, since there is a discussion thread started there, and this debate covers a number of articles. It's complicated further by the fact that some favor it, some oppose it, and some think it should only be World Series winners. Also, there's the question of which players it should cover. Personally, I think it's pointless. But consensus needs to be reached on the project page. Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? 12:42, 14 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Rudget

I am working on a reply. I just want to make sure I have everything covered. Kingturtle (talk) 19:04, 15 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Joel Widzer

This article seemed to have been fine until RogDel came along and did some formatting work. RogDel has a history of creating turmoil. This is not a resume, it is very much in line with the pages of other authors. It seems like your picking on this page.

I'm not picking on the page. I am trying to get it up to snuff. Kingturtle (talk) 20:16, 15 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] New Message

Hello, Kingturtle. You have new messages at DeadlyAssassin's talk page.
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[edit] Thank you

Image:Civility barnstar.png Civility Award
Thank you for your gracious and extremely speedy help. Will you have a cup of tea now Father? Oh go on, go on, go on, go on, ye will ye will, ye will, ye will. :) Merkin's mum 12:07, 16 May 2008 (UTC)
Yer welcome :) Kingturtle (talk) 12:28, 16 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Re:Thank you

Thanks for the barnstar. I'm sorry for the copyright issue there. I was just wondering, what "good work" did I do there. Most of it was just a copyvio. I should be giving you a barnstar. Do you mind explaning? Thanks. -- RyRy5 (talk ♠ Review) 00:23, 17 May 2008 (UTC)

I gave you the barnstar because you put a lot of effort into creating and organizing the article. I didn't know at the time about the cut-and-paste controversy. Anyway, I think you've learned a lot through the process now. In the long run it will make you a better editor. Sometimes you have to learn the hard way. That's okay. I think the response was heightened because the article was a candidate for DYK. Learn from your mistakes and don't be afraid to be bold. Read Wikipedia:Copyright violations carefully and examine the changes we've all made to the article to see how we've utilized the copied materials. Cheers, Kingturtle (talk) 04:44, 17 May 2008 (UTC)
Thank you. Me and User:Baseball Bugs have improved the article further. I'm trying my best to improve myself and yes, I'm learning a few things here. Thank you again. Regards, --Ryan Cross (talk ♠ Review) 20:17, 17 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Rename clerk bot

see Wikipedia:Bots/Requests for approval/SoxBot VI

Could you take a look at my thought on this new bot and possibly comment yourself? WjBscribe 19:08, 17 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Would like to draw your attention to a possible typo on your user page

You have this quote:

  • "Without irony, where would be poets be?" - Kingturtle

I suspect it is supposed to read:

  • "Without irony, where would poets be?" - Kingturtle

although I could see:

  • "Without irony, where would beat poets be?" - Kingturtle

as well. If the actual intention were obvious, I'd help you out and make the change, alas, in this case it isn't.

Speaking of irony, the next quote is:

  • "Me fail English? That's unpossible." - Ralph Wiggum

—  X  S  G  07:08, 18 May 2008 (UTC)

Ha! That's hilarious. Thanks for the heads up! I'll fix it. Cheers Kingturtle (talk) 12:05, 18 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Mazari Sharif reverts

When I was scrolling through the edits, I randomly picked several to view, and I saw a non-english addition, what appears to be an advertisement, some junk, more advertising, testing with the infobox image, Original research and POV, and other edits, such as changing the name in the text to a different name. I should have clarified that it was a good-faith revert, but rollback prevents me from doing so. I will look at the revert again and make acceptable changes, and if you see something I miss, I encourage you to fix it. I hope this clarifies the situation. If you need me to explain something, feel free to leave a message on my talk page. Thanks for pointing this out, SpencerT♦C 22:07, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] My recent RfA

Thank you for supporting my RfA, which unfortunately didn't succeed. The majority of the opposes stated that I needed more experience in the main namespace and Wikipedia namespace and talk space, so that is what I will do. I have made a list and I hope I will be able to get through it. I will go for another RfA in about three month's time and I hope you will be able to support me then as well. If you have any other comments for me or wish to be notified when I go for another RfA, please leave them on my talk page. If you wish to nominate me for my next RfA, please wait until it has been about three months. I will not be checking back to this page so if you would like to comment or reply please use my talk page. Thanks again for participating in my RfA! ·Add§hore· Talk/Cont 07:05, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Your question

Thanks for asking about this. Please look at my last comments on the discussion page of my 1st RfA. I've also replied in the thread of q7 but if you would like to follow up, either off the project page or on it, please do. Gwen Gale (talk) 14:39, 20 May 2008 (UTC)


[edit] Two things

I know you said you're not reading the above, but there are some wild personal attacks in there (I see they've been warned).

I didn't see this until only now. Although I thought this was made clear in Antandrus' nominating statement and my own answers, the pith is, since late last year and especially immediately after my last RfA, the most (and likely only) helpful path I could see for bringing to Wikipedia all my knowledge, skills, experience and belief in the project (such as they may be, anyway), was to hold myself steadfastly to the much higher standards admins are held to, rather than wait until I was an admin. I found that for me, if the project was taken care of and I helped meaningfully with that, the sway of its overall content would become much stronger than that of any individual articles I might work on. I think this was bound to happen anyway, though, no matter what articles I might have been working on at the time.

I'm only answering questions in the questions section of my RfA. If you would like me to paste the above linked question into that section along with this answer, let me know. Cheers. Gwen Gale (talk) 01:20, 24 May 2008 (UTC)

Thank you for your response. It just so happened I was away for the holidays when you wrote it, and your nomination closed before I could respond. Just so you know, based on your more recent responses to my questions raised, I would have changed my opposition to neutral. Congratulations on your nomination. Sincerely, Kingturtle (talk) 14:44, 27 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] WP:LAA invite

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[edit] Barnstar

Thanks for the Barnstar! Patken4 (talk) 21:50, 27 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] WP:CHU

I was wondering, since you did some today, whether you would do some more at WP:CHU. SimpsonsFan08 talk Sign Here Please and get Award 15:38, 28 May 2008 (UTC)

When I have some time freed up later this afternoon. Cheers. Kingturtle (talk) 16:17, 28 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Thanks

Thanks for changing my username. 92.5.91.181 (talk) 17:29, 28 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] DOY guideline

Hi - A while ago, you said at WT:DOY that you're working on an alternative to WP:DOY at User:Kingturtle/sandbox4 which has been untouched since Feb. Do you still intend to get to this at some point? If not, could you rephrase your objections to the proposed guidelines in a way that would allow someone else to edit them to your satisfaction? I'll make the point again that the current version of the proposed guidelines reflects the current practices of the folks who actually maintain these pages, and anything significantly different from this likely won't (and would therefore have a very hard time gaining consensus as a guideline). Thanks. -- Rick Block (talk) 18:34, 28 May 2008 (UTC)

I don't understand your agenda at WT:DOY. You seem to be arguing against any exclusionary criteria in favor of a strictly inclusionary criteria. Do you really think there's a problem with too many interesting facts being ruthlessly deleted from these pages? Just curious. -- Rick Block (talk) 03:28, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

I am arguing for a more generous criteria that would allow for events that are interesting, educational and notable, but not internationally significant. I definitely don't want a fully inclusionary criteria for events.

With the current exclusionary criteria on the table, for each day we're going to be left with a dozen events that are mostly about world leaders and international relations. Events that are socially and artistically interesting (and the like) will disappear, and DOY will become (has become) dry and boring.

Three years ago I was reading DOYs allowed to my high school history classes. I don't do that as much anymore, because there are fewer interesting events to discuss. Kingturtle (talk) 11:19, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

How about a strict size limit, perhaps something like "no more than 50 events, 50 births, and 50 deaths per day" (and if 50 isn't the right number, then 100, or 200)? I really think without some kind of counter-balancing force an inclusion-oriented guideline will tend to make these pages grow uncontrollably. -- Rick Block (talk) 13:46, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

Let's look at June 2 as an example. These items are of interest and valuable to history - but are not internationally significant.

We need a policy that can include events such as these. Kingturtle (talk) 14:13, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

Perhaps we should move this to WT:DOY, but would a guideline along the lines of "consider including the following types of items, but limit the number of entries to no more than 50" be acceptable? -- Rick Block (talk) 14:32, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

moved to Wikipedia_talk:Days_of_the_year#discussion_about_criteria_.28moved_from_User_talk:Kingturtle.29

[edit] Bot

I have made a bot called BarkBot. I was wondering if you could make him a bot. Thanks! Please respond on my talk page.-- Barkjon  23:31, 28 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Heh

This has to be the funniest indent I've seen yet. :) Acalamari 01:58, 29 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] AfD nomination of List of parents who homeschool their children

I have nominated List of parents who homeschool their children, an article you created, for deletion. I do not feel that this article satisfies Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion, and have explained why at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of parents who homeschool their children. Your opinions on the matter are welcome at that same discussion page; also, you are welcome to edit the article to address these concerns. Thank you for your time. Do you want to opt out of receiving this notice? Troikoalogo (talk) 09:57, 29 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Impossible.

Since I don't have any articles watchlisted, I don't see how we could have any in common. I just lost teh game (talk) 11:08, 31 May 2008 (UTC)

Maybe you've just frequented some articles I have watchlisted. Kingturtle (talk) 15:21, 31 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] WikiProject Birds June 2008 Newsletter

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[edit] your recent Protection on Pashtun people

You actually didn't revert it to the right one. NisarKand added this image:

A Pathan looking man from northern Pakistan.
A Pathan looking man from northern Pakistan.

So it should be reverted to before he added that pic. One of that other editors versions had his without that picture. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.68.55.98 (talk) 00:04, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Pashtun people

Well, you've made a reversion of an edit made by someone else and have wrongly accused me of vandalism in the edit summary. Could you please explain? I have been here for an year and a half and have a perfectly clean record in Wikipedia.

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Pashtun_people&diff=216511462&oldid=216509067

I added the image because it was taken by National Geographic journalist Maynard Owen Williams. I did'nt find anything disagreeable with it though I am open to any decision, even if it leads to the removal of the image. Well, the user whose edit you have restored, has been repeatedly tagging the image for deletion without any strong reasons just because he does'nt like it. -RavichandarMy coffee shop 00:06, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

I am sorry :-). I guess there has been a misunderstanding. I thought you removed the image I added. tc -RavichandarMy coffee shop 00:12, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
No problem. I didn't remove that image. I reverted a separate series of edits and then added a semi-protect. Happy editing! Cheers, Kingturtle (talk) 00:35, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Racism

Punjabi old man from India.
Punjabi old man from India.

Ravichandar is a racist Hindu from India and has uploaded the image of the homeless looking poor Punjabi old man from India so he can add to Pashtun people article. We cannot verify the information on the image because there is no link provided. This racist Hindu claimed that he personally took the image from the National Geographic magazine, this is hard to believe because if that was the case this racist Hindu would have added some more detailed information like where the photo was shot at. We have no idea if he is Pashtun, a Punjabi or something else. I believe Ravichandar is another racist editor trying to express his ill feelings towards Pashtuns because most Hindus hate Pashtuns for backing Pakistan in case there is war between Pakistan and India as well as other reasons. Like how Ahmad Shah Durrani (Pashtun) defeated 100,000s Hindus 7 times. We know today that India's economy may be rising but it is still one of the poorest country on earth due to very large number of beggers who are starving everyday. The Pashtuns are not rich but also not beggers like the 100s of millions of Hindus in India. I can provide sources for everything I have explained here. That image does not belong in Pashtun people article so it should be removed because it is clearly offending a large group of people. The only thing the image expresses is extreme poverty. This Hindu racist does not know what is offensive so we have to teach this to him, her or it.--119.30.71.201 (talk) 04:45, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

I count 5 occurrences of "racist" and 1 of "racism". Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? 05:59, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
I don't have time to answer to 119.30.71.201's crappy accusations. Anonymous user from Pakistan, you've indulged in every possible act prohibited as per WP:NOT: WP:CIVIL ([1],[2],[3],[4],[5]), WP:3RR ([6][7]), Wikipedia:Sock puppetry (119.30.76.138,119.30.67.8) and obviously, WP:NPOV. Consider it as sheer good fortune that you have not yet been blocked.-RavichandarMy coffee shop 16:03, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Revision to template

Hi Kingturtle, Just a note to let you know about a proposed tweak for {{MLBBioRet}} to add a parameter to it (see sandbox). The discussion is at Template talk:MLBBioRet JGHowes talk - 02:20, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

  • Are you OK with this change? JGHowes talk - 18:54, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Pitcher of the Month cleanup?

Hi. Per your call for cleanup, could you start some dialogue on the talk page? I'm honestly not sure what cleanup you're looking for. Thanks. —Wknight94 (talk) 14:46, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Your edits to Shabuhragan article

I noticed that in March, you deleted all the quotations from Fundamental Epistle article, without any discussion whatsoever. I'm sure your intention was to "clean up the article", and remove large quotations, which, I imagine you might say, would belong in a Wikitext article or something. However, by deleting those quotations, you deleted a substantial amount of work that someone (namely me) had done to collect those quotations from out of Augustine's works. It seems to me that it would have been more appropriate to suggest moving the material to Wikitext - or wherever you think it should go - instead of completely deleting material (and a few hours of work), which was relevant to the topic - "Manichaean texts", and which other people researching that topic would likely be interested in seeing. Jimhoward72 (talk) 19:30, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

My response is here. Kingturtle (talk) 19:36, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
Thanks, I posted a reply - basically asking whether wikitext would be more suitable than wikiquote, and why or why not.Jimhoward72 (talk) 19:49, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Barnstar

Hey, thanks for the barnstar! Much appreciated. It has been about 20,000 edits since the last time I got one, so I'm glad to see people still appreciate my work! — Andrwsc (talk · contribs) 16:03, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] supporting user: NisarKand on Afghanistan fabrications

You are supporting this edit of NisarKand. He is providing a fabricated source that contradicts the sentences before it in the article. Please correct this and undo his edit otherwise Afghanistan article will be thought of as a joke of one sentence is contradicting the next. —Preceding unsigned comment added by AchamaenidPersian550 (talk • contribs) 05:13, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

That source is Dupree's, they have done extended research and studies in Afghanistan in the 1970s before the wars. The quotation of Ibn Matutta backs Al-Biruni's writings, that there were in fact people who called themselves "Afghans" in 1333. This is historical fact, you can't say Ibn Matutta didn't visit Kabul in 1333 or what he said is untrue because there is convincing writings that proves he went. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Charsada (talk • contribs) 08:57, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Aquarium Wiki

Hey, thanks for the feedback! I and a friend started a year and a bit ago and its done much better then I ever immagined it would. It took a while but I finally got our site added to the Interwiki map so I went around and updated the links. Hope to see you on the other side every now and then. Thanks --Arjes (talk) 19:37, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

I know, today I just updated current links, but our editors try to add links here only to articles with a decent amount of content so we don't come by here very often. We also on occasion edit the pages that contain care information but the goals of the sites are different so information doesn't typically flow between the two sites as much as it should. --Arjes (talk) 19:59, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Special:Contributions/88.68.221.138

Can't you just block this IP instead of reverting all his edits? He is the banned User:Tajik, who also used banned User:Anoshirawan as proxy. Banned user:Tajik lives in Germany and all the IPs from Germany editing Afghanistan related articles with pro-Persian POVs as well as anti-Pashtun or anti-Afghan POVs are him, the banned user:Tajik. Using IP to evade block is one thing but using the IP to vandalise pages is violation of rules and should be blocked on the spot, without needing to ask for approvals from other administrators.--George From The Jungle (talk) 02:53, 8 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] what's dispute?

Please stop adding dispute tag for no reason. If there is a dispute you can add it, but don't add it for no reason please. Thanks.

I am adding the dispute tags to articles in which different POVs are in dispute. Kingturtle (talk) 20:23, 8 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Ahmad Shah Durrani

Can you please protect this article from the banned User:Beh-nam and banned User:Tajik because they are removing images and well sourced information. Thanks.--119.30.69.18 (talk) 23:57, 8 June 2008 (UTC)

This IP is from banned user: NisarKand and he is removnig sourced content from Encyclopedia of Islam and adding fictional images. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.68.52.25 (talk) 00:01, 9 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Template move

Would you mind if I moved {{Warningkt}} to your userspace? Its a cool template, but not one I think we should be listing as available to all users (many of whom will misuse it). MBisanz talk 01:59, 9 June 2008 (UTC)

No problem. I made the change. Kingturtle (talk) 11:30, 9 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Spam links

The changes I made were flagged as spam and reverted by you. I was wondering which guidelines I violated? Most towns have descriptions of public transportation options, and many MBTA lines/stations have listings of connecting services. Was the issue that I had a link to http://www.ipswichessexexplorer.com/ ? I have no affiliation with Ipswich Essex Explorer or the MBTA, which are both government sponsored non-profit services. Tjmather (talk) 20:30, 9 June 2008 (UTC)

There are two issues at hand. (1) Although the external links you're adding are useful, the value of Wikipedia is in its own text, not in the quality of its external links. Repeatedly adding external links may be construed as spammming. As stated in Wikipedia:Spam, "Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, not a link farm. If you have a source to contribute, first contribute some facts that you learned from that source, then cite the source. Don't simply direct readers to another site for the useful facts; add useful facts to the article, then cite the site where you found them. You're here to improve Wikipedia—not just to funnel readers off Wikipedia and onto some other site, right?" (2) Please do no embed external links (i.e. [http://www.ipswichessexexplorer.com/ Ipswich Essex Explorer] ). To quote Wikipedia:Manual of Style (links), "You should not add a descriptive title to an embedded HTML link within an article." Embedding external links is meant for citations and references, not for covering up red links or for creating external links.

Does this make any sense? Please ask if you need further clarification. Kingturtle (talk) 20:47, 9 June 2008 (UTC)

Understood - sorry for not reading the guidelines more closely - what I could do is create a new wikipedia article for Ipswich Essex Explorer, and replace the link to http://www.ipswichessexexplorer.com/ with a Ipswich Essex Explorer tag. Does that work, or do you have another suggestion? Thanks. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Tjmather (talk • contribs) 00:17, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

That's a great idea. Then eventually you or someone else can make the redlink into an article. And the wikipedia will keep growing. Thanks for understand, Kingturtle (talk) 01:27, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Demography of Afghanistan

You protected the article on NisarKands vandalism. You should have protected it on the other version which was supported by many users, not sockpuppets of racist and banned user NisarKand. NisarKand is racist and is claiming with false sources that non-Pashtuns are immigrants in Afghanistan. Will you support this racist sockpuppet's edits or will you revert it back to a proper version? —Preceding unsigned comment added by DurraniPashtoon (talk • contribs) 21:34, 9 June 2008 (UTC)

You realize, until you change your behavior, you're part of the problem, not part of the solution. Kingturtle (talk) 21:37, 9 June 2008 (UTC)
What behaviour? It is NisarKand that is the problem? Do you even know why Beh-nam was banned in the first place? It is because NisarKand made sockpuppets and got him into edit warring trouble with them and made his block log look bad. Beh-nam isn't even supposed to be banned. He has done more for Afghanistan related articles, with Tajik, than anyone. And this is how you treat them? —Preceding unsigned comment added by DurraniPashtoon (talk • contribs) 21:42, 9 June 2008 (UTC)
According to the British Library, it clearly says that Tajiks, Uzbeks, and Turkmen are immigrants from former Russian Turkistan. The link is provided at the articles where this is mentioned, this is accurate information backed by the most trustful source and so if you don't like it because you are Tajik then that's too bad. The British were involved in Afghanistan for nearly 100 years in the past and they did complete country study at the time, by having teams of men going all around the country and writing what they saw. Tajiks came to Afghanistan in the late 1800s and early 1900s during the rules of Abdur Rahman Khan, Habibullah Khan and Habibullah Kalakani. The small number of Persians that lived in prior to this were not Tajiks and are still not Tajiks. They have other names such as Qizilbash. So.....do not remove sourced information and Kingturle did not protect the article on the wrong version, it is much accurate than all the BS and Persian POVS you and banned User:Tajik had placed in.

[edit] Just as I thought

You support NisarKand and you vandalize constructive edits. Stop vandalizing or you will be reported. —Preceding unsigned comment added by DurraniPashtoon (talk • contribs) 21:41, 9 June 2008 (UTC)

You are a sockpuppets of banned users. Serve your sentence properly, *then* come back and play nice. Kingturtle (talk) 21:57, 9 June 2008 (UTC)
So what if he supports NisarKand? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 119.30.71.70 (talk) 23:39, 9 June 2008 (UTC)
You, NisarKand, are a racist and you gave the article a racist tone.
It was NisarKand's sockpuppets that got me banned. I will never accept my ban unless admins investigate it. NisarKand on the other hand was banned first for good reasons. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.48.244.173 (talk) 03:35, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Demography of Afghanistan

So you are actually going to just leave it on NisarKand's vandalized and racist version instead of the consensus version?

You are a sockpuppet of a banned user. Grow up. Kingturtle (talk) 10:36, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Dari

تورتلکینگ جان، چرا همیشه این متن را خراب میکنی؟ اگر نتوانی ایرا بخوانی، تو هیچ چیز راجه به این زبان نمیدانی —Preceding unsigned comment added by Rodwa4 (talk • contribs) 17:46, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

I cannot read that alphabet. Judging from your edit history I can say this, though: please make the fixes you see necessary in Dari (Persian)‎, but please be sure to cite credible references. Cheers, Kingturtle (talk) 17:50, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Continuation of discussion over notability of Ohio high school sports conferences

Hello. You are receiving this message because you recently participated in an AfD discussion regarding the notability of high school sports conferences in Ohio State. While the AfD has been closed as no consensus, the discussion is continuing here. You are invited to participate. Thank you. --Jaysweet (talk) 20:24, 10 June 2008 (UTC)