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[edit] Taiketsu (talk · contribs)

This user reverted again after you warned them about edit-warring, so I've blocked them for 1 week. The previous block (also for edit warring) was 4 days. Given that this user was also involved in a high-profile move at Global Warming today, I thought it prudent to mention here, in anticipation of further drama. FYI, UltraExactZZ Claims ~ Evidence 17:40, 20 March 2008 (UTC)

Thanks. Kingturtle (talk) 17:43, 20 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] My ER

Thanks for commenting on my ER. I didn't intend to further the dispute, and even though he wouldn't have passed, I thought that deserved to be brought up. Perhaps I could have done it in a more civil way. Anyway, thanks! Justin(Gmail?)(u) 20:55, 20 March 2008 (UTC)

It was fine that you brought up the diff. It was just the way you delivered it that broke civility. Keep up the good work! Cheers, Kingturtle (talk) 20:57, 20 March 2008 (UTC)
P.S. I am sometimes harsh rather than civil toward frustrating editors. My gentle reminder to you is also a gentle reminder to myself. :) Kingturtle (talk) 21:05, 20 March 2008 (UTC)
Hey, we all need gentle reminders every now and then. Even better that we sometimes know to give them to ourselves. Justin(Gmail?)(u) 17:15, 21 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] "Userbox" nominated for deletion

Hello Kingturtle. I've nominated userbox for deletion because it violates Wikipedia:Avoid self-references, and following previous deletions, the May 2006 deletion review, the August 2006 deletion review, and the countless other discussions. The general consensus is that user boxes are not notable for encyclopedic inclusion.

I tagged it using the no-objection deletion template; feel free to remove the deletion template if you disagree, and I will use the requests for deletion process instead. —{admin} Pathoschild 23:33:50, 20 March 2008 (UTC) 23:33, 20 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] CopyVio's

I am curious as to why you post here, when you could just as easily delete them yourself. ~ Cheers! Dreamy § 00:59, 21 March 2008 (UTC)

I've been posting here as a matter of protocol - to avoid having, using or displaying too much power. One editor identifies, another editor takes action. Would it be better for me to just do it myself? Kingturtle (talk) 11:52, 21 March 2008 (UTC)
No, you're doing the right thing. Don't ask how I got here! :) dihydrogen monoxide (H2O) 00:56, 22 March 2008 (UTC)
Ah, thank you for clearing that up for me. I have another new piece of info for when/if I become an admin. ~ Cheers! Dreamy § 16:10, 24 March 2008 (UTC)
Also, if I were to simply delete it immediately, it wouldn't give the authors of the article time to fix the problem. Cheers, Kingturtle (talk) 16:12, 24 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] McTools confirmed as NisarKand by checkuser

user: McTools has been confirmed as sock puppet of banned user: NisarKand, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Requests_for_checkuser/Case/NisarKand.

Once again I was right about another sock of NisarKand. Though this time it took me longer to realize it because he tried to throw us off by decorating his user-page and editing different articles. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.229.16.253 (talk) 02:13, 21 March 2008 (UTC)

user: Thatcher also that McTools lied about his IP. It is the same as NisarKand's.
McTools has not been confirmed. McTools is marked as likely. Kingturtle (talk) 11:53, 21 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Thank You For Your Concern

I do understand, but I want justice as well. Cheers.Kevin j (talk) 17:59, 21 March 2008 (UTC)

You'll need to take a different tack - one of collaboration and calmness. Kingturtle (talk) 18:05, 21 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Indef banned user's IP's blocked

Do you know how to get the Indefinitely blocked users like Beh-nam IP's that they use to flout their ban blocked, do they have to be posted at Checkuser or somewhere else? - dwc lr (talk) 19:22, 21 March 2008 (UTC)

I do not know how to stop the recurring sockpuppetry other than manually. :/ Kingturtle (talk) 15:49, 23 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] User talk:Anoshirawan

Is it possible to put semi-protection on his talk page for a little while? It seems Beh-nam's sock IP's keep posting there and his edits keep getting reverted since Beh-nam is a banned user. Momusufan (talk) 20:09, 22 March 2008 (UTC)

And probably put protection on Panj, lots of sock edits there too by Beh-nam. Momusufan (talk) 20:15, 22 March 2008 (UTC)
I blocked 70.48.246.197. See how it goes. Kingturtle (talk) 20:16, 22 March 2008 (UTC)

Ok then. Momusufan (talk) 20:20, 22 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Aetna Health Inc. v. Davila

I addressed the copyvio issue of Aetna Health Inc. v. Davila in this edit, let me know if you see a problem. Jeepday (talk) 14:28, 23 March 2008 (UTC)

Nice work! Thanks! And happy editing. Cheers, Kingturtle (talk) 15:47, 23 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] The Climate Group

Hello, my sole contribution to this was to make The Climate Group a redirect to Climate Group, which I had kicked off with a short para. For unknown reasons somebody deleted the redirect and made a new article. The other (duplicate) article seems in its current form to be copied from their website as well. cheers Rd232 talk 14:51, 23 March 2008 (UTC)

OK thanks. I restored your original redirect. Cheers, Kingturtle (talk) 15:48, 23 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Protection of User:Jimbo Wales

I thought that page was supposed to be unprotected? Teh Rote (talk) 00:27, 24 March 2008 (UTC)

The protection can be removed in a few hours. There was a particular user who was vandalising the page over and over again. Protection seemed the most logical solution. Kingturtle (talk) 00:29, 24 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] JacquesNguyen

JacquesNguyen used Bugeaud to evade the weeklong 3RR block I issued two days ago. I indeffed Bugeaud and extended JacquesNguyen's block length to two weeks. Nishkid64 (Make articles, not love) 01:15, 24 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Orphan work

Hi Kingturtle, just thought out of courtesy that I reverted this recent edit. I understand you're trying to reduce orphans but this isn't the way to do it - Artun was barely notable as a youth player for Ipswich Town and adding it into the ITFC article as you did, out of context and without citation, wasn't appropriate. I reinstated the orphan tag on Artun's article as well. I guess we need to find a better way to de-orphan the article. Regards, The Rambling Man (talk) 13:30, 24 March 2008 (UTC)

Ok. That's a fair cop. That was sloppy of me. I'll be more careful. Thanks! Kingturtle (talk) 13:35, 24 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Days of the year guideline

As a frequent contributor (or vandal patroller) to the days of the year articles (WP:DAYS), your comments on the current state of the proposed guideline for that project would be greatly appreciated. Discussion is taking place here. -- Mufka (u) (t) (c) 19:01, 24 March 2008 (UTC)

Thank you for the heads up. Cheers, Kingturtle (talk) 19:03, 24 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] copyright issues

Have created a new Software Asset Management page in the temporary file and wanted to let you know as it appears you submitted it for copyright violation. There has been some discussion, and I created a new page that leaves out the controversial text. What are the next steps for removing the copyright notice and uploading the new page? Thanks. DMD2007 (talk) 19:10, 24 March 2008 (UTC)

That's great work!! I've copied it over to Software Asset Management. Kingturtle (talk) 19:29, 24 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Tupac Shakur

Hey, sure why not? But I´ll wait... Why would you be intrested to see a section like that? And also how did you come across my userpage? which article? my best! Cyrus111 (talk) 20:03, 24 March 2008 (UTC)

I came across your userpage because I have Tajikistan on my watchlist. Sometimes I look at userpages for fun. I'd like to see the Tupac section because it is a fascinating idea to me that his influence is so international and so political. Kingturtle (talk) 22:29, 24 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Userbox

Seriously, this page has one heck of a delete log [1] ...I don't think you're necessarily wrong in trying to get it recreate it, but maybe you should try and get consensus on it first (I think deletion review is a good start).--UsaSatsui (talk) 06:05, 25 March 2008 (UTC)

The new version answers the concerns from 2006. I've mentioned what's different now in Talk:Userbox. Thanks for the idea about DRV. That is a valid direction to take this. Kingturtle (talk) 11:46, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
Hello again. Sorry about not responding to your arguments; I've been very busy on MetaWiki with the upcoming board elections and various standardization projects. Now that you've placed it on deletion review, I guess I no longer need to respond after all. :) —{admin} Pathoschild 00:19:34, 26 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Renaming

Thanks a lot for renaming my account. --Two Wings (jraf ) (talk) 13:54, 25 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Successful RfA page

Hi, I saw you've been updating the page. I was wondering what source you are using for the information? The dates you are giving are incorrect in some cases, and in places you've been unable to find who promoted. Wikipedia:Bureaucrat log gives all the information you need prior to 22 December 2004, and it's what I've been using. Make sure to stick with UTC for consistency though (I think that's what is causing the date difference). Thanks, Majorly 19:10, 25 March 2008 (UTC)

I've been using each RfA's edit history. Thank you very much for helping out! :) Kingturtle (talk) 19:12, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
What source are you using for the data? Kingturtle (talk) 19:28, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
Which data? I'm using the log I linked above for when they were promoted, and the RfA itself for the end tally. Majorly (talk) 21:49, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
OK, got it. I misread you. Thanks, Kingturtle (talk) 21:56, 25 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Suggest

Hi, I made this, I was wonderng if you would like to use it. Good luck. – i123Pie biocontribs 19:42, 25 March 2008 (UTC)

Interesting! Kingturtle (talk) 19:43, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
I was hoping that you, and other buro's, would use it, when you rename a user. – i123Pie biocontribs 20:01, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
That information is quite useful to those experiencing name changes. Kingturtle (talk) 20:52, 25 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Unsuccessful RfA

Oh well. I try not to make mistakes or rush into things, but it seems like half of my deletion-releated edits are borderline reckless -- and as a result, I end up looking like I don't know what I'm doing half the time. Ten Pound Hammer and his otters • (Broken clamshells•Otter chirps) 02:44, 26 March 2008 (UTC)

It can be tough when peer pressure makes you start second-guessing yourself. I'd say go with your instincts. Stay consistent. And - wait until September. It looks like a lot of the opposition was based on the frequency of your attempts. I think you're doing good work. Keep on truckin'. Kingturtle (talk) 02:48, 26 March 2008 (UTC)
Half the time, however, my instincts turn out dead wrong; other times I just end up making stupid errors in judgment like this. I do indeed second-, third-, and fourth-guess myself; most of the concern seems to be over my first guesses missing the mark. Ten Pound Hammer and his otters • (Broken clamshells•Otter chirps) 03:03, 26 March 2008 (UTC)
Ah so everyone makes mistakes. None of those crashed any servers or sent anyone to the emergency room. Learn from your mistakes and grow. Also, here's some more advice. If you are sitting there second guessing your second guesses, then just don't do anything at all. There's no rule that says you have to do anything. No one even knows you're looking at it. Just let it be - *and* wait to see what someone else does. We can learn by watching too. When you're mind is swirling with indecision, that's a sign that you're not sure! So listen to your mind and don't act on indecision. Cheers again, Kingturtle (talk) 03:11, 26 March 2008 (UTC)
That still doesn't take care of the cases where I'm positive that I'm right but I end up being dead wrong. Actually, very few of my mistaken AfD/CSD nominations are out of uncertainty; otherwise, I wouldn't tag them. Ten Pound Hammer and his otters • (Broken clamshells•Otter chirps) 03:13, 26 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] After closing vote

Not a big deal, but I'm a little confused why you moved the vote here. If you look at the timestamp of the revision: 01:30, December 10, 2004 it's before the actual closing of the RfA by Raul654 at: 03:19, 10 Dec 2004 as shown on Wikipedia:Bureaucrat log. If we had done official closing templates back in those days the time when Mark made the promotion would have been the actual closing. Also I'm curious how you got to checking those oldies. Anyway, certainly no big deal, just showed up on my watchlist. - Taxman Talk 04:14, 26 March 2008 (UTC)

On that one I went with the "ending 18:13, Dec 9, 2004" posted at the top of the RfA. I'll revert my edits. Kingturtle (talk) 11:31, 26 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Thanks.

Thanks for the username change ;-). Regards. --Manwë (talk) 16:27, 26 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Regarding refusal on name change request

Hello. Please look at Wikipedia:Changing username#EivindJohnsen → EivindJ once more. I "own" the username on all wikipedias, with the nye single user login system ... so how can I make my English username the same as the one I have everywhere else and which I "own"? Thanks! --EivindJohnsen (talk) 17:46, 26 March 2008 (UTC)

There's a bug that prevents bureaucrats from renaming accounts to a name that has been "reserved" to a unified global login. See Bug #13507. Hopefully that will be fixed soon. WjBscribe 23:10, 26 March 2008 (UTC)
Ah, thanks for reply. I'll just wait then (: --EivindJohnsen (talk) 09:15, 27 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Username change request

Could you please process my request? I noticed that my request was skipped over and would like it either processed or an explanation as to why it hasn't been processed. Thank you in advance. Browne34 (talk) 15:38, 27 March 2008 (UTC)

Thank you! EchoBravo (talk) 15:49, 27 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] RBI's to RBIs

Hello! Need your response here, regarding AWB help. --SMS Talk 21:00, 27 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] user: NangOnamos

Right after user: McTools got banned for being NisarKand this user has appeared and has managed to delete several articles and vandalize several articles. Please report him for sockpuppetry. Thanks.

[edit] user: NangOnamos

Right after user: McTools got banned for being NisarKand this user has appeared and has managed to delete several articles and vandalize several articles. Please report him for sockpuppetry. Thanks. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jogezai (talk • contribs) 23:20, 27 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Copywright

Oops that was done when I was relatively new to wiki and wasn't aware of copywright, apologies. Would you recommend deleting it and then restoring it as a stub to hide the text in the history? ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ $1,000,000? 16:01, 28 March 2008 (UTC)

Nah, just re-write it and keep the history. P.S. don't take my message personally. It was in no way a judgment about your character :) Kingturtle (talk) 16:14, 28 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Job Characteristics Model

See Diff I was not able to confirm copyvio at Job Characteristics Model, thoughts? Jeepday (talk) 04:04, 30 March 2008 (UTC)

FYI - Diff Jeepday (talk) 19:42, 30 March 2008 (UTC)
Thanks. Keep up the good work, Kingturtle (talk) 19:45, 30 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Cleanup templates

Just to let you know that most cleanup templates, like "{{Unreferenced}}", "{{Fact}}" and , "{{advert}}" etc., are best not "subst"ed , (e.g.Vijayanand road lines). See WP:SUBST for more details. Regards, Rich Farmbrough, 14:39 30 March 2008 (GMT).

[edit] Erroneous copyvio tag on Federal Occupational Health

Hi, I think you tagged this one in error. See Talk:Federal Occupational Health#Not a copyvio. TJRC (talk) 00:21, 1 April 2008 (UTC)

OK, I removed the copyvio tag, but added a Tone tag and a copyedit tag. Thanks for the heads up. Kingturtle (talk) 00:50, 1 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Barnstar Alert

The Tireless Contributor Barnstar
For your work on orphans, copy editing, and for contributing for so long. SynergeticMaggot (talk) 16:52, 1 April 2008 (UTC)
Yeah I have a vicious habit of looking through everyones contrib's. :) I'm actually surprised its your first. And it's no problem. Back to work. SynergeticMaggot (talk) 16:58, 1 April 2008 (UTC)
Looks like you weren't editing for quite a long time. Welcome back. I hope you stick around. Cheers, Kingturtle (talk) 17:05, 1 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] A bit of help

Hi, I'm a relatively new bureaucrat on the Hindi Wikipedia, and I've been asked to rename (usurp) a user. But whenever I type in the current name and the new name on 'Special:Renameuser', I just get 'The user "Shyam" already exists' (Shyam is the new name for the user) - although when I check hi:Special:Contributions/Shyam (Shyam's contributions) I find nothing. I would be grateful if you could explain how I can usurp the user account. I'm sorry for bothering you! Thank you. --Wolf talk | हिन्दी | বাংলা 16:57, 1 April 2008 (UTC)

I have forwarded your request via email to User:WJBscribe. He is better versed at the inner workings of usurpations than I am. Kingturtle (talk) 17:08, 1 April 2008 (UTC)

Hi Wolf. The problem is that there is an account called Shyam on the Hindi Wikipedia [2], it just doesn't have any contributions. You need to rename that account out of the way, for example by changing it to Shyam (renamed), and can then rename the user who made the request to Shyam in its place. Does that make sense? WjBscribe 18:08, 1 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Cusack

"(rv. hmmm that url links to " Toddler's body recovered in Oklahoma flooding" . maybe this was a typo?) "

It had to have been as the same news site had stories for both. Whoops! Lemme see if I can get the real link to the stalker story... WhisperToMe (talk) 19:21, 1 April 2008 (UTC)

I figured it had something to do with that news site changing their URLs around, or just updating that page with new news, and purging the old news. Kingturtle (talk) 19:23, 1 April 2008 (UTC)
I think I was reading the child story and the Cusack story and must have copied the wrong URL. Anyway I added the actual URL to the story now, so we know about Cusack's stalker. WhisperToMe (talk) 19:23, 1 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Fernando Ureña Rib

I remember what happened ... the article was created in category space, I simply moved it to article space. -- Prove It (talk) 21:12, 1 April 2008 (UTC)

Can you re-write it so we can keep it? :) Kingturtle (talk) 21:13, 1 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] WikiProject Birds April 2008 Newsletter

The April 2008 issue of the Bird WikiProject newsletter has been published. You may read the newsletter, change the format in which future issues will be delivered to you, or unsubscribe from this notification by following the link. Thank you.
This has been an automated delivery by BrownBot (talk) 00:56, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] My RfA

I wanted to personally thank you for pointing out what should be obvious on my RfA: atheist does not equal bias. I'm taken a back that people are using that for grounds of opposing me rather than other issues others have brought up. It's you and a few of the other positive comments that haven't completely depressed me and made me just withdraw. Cheers! Redfarmer (talk) 08:56, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

P.S. I love the Ralph Wiggum quote! Redfarmer (talk) 08:57, 2 April 2008 (UTC)
Card-carrying atheists get a bad rap. Stick with the RfA. Momentum has been known to change in RfAs. Here's to Ralph Wiggum. Kingturtle (talk) 11:26, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Awarding Barnstar

The Barnstar of Good Humor
Aprils fools day was a blast. Loads of users lightened up to have good old fashion fun. I want to thank you for taking part in editing this page in particular and even though I may not know you, embrace the same talk pages, or even edit with you in the near future, I'd like to award you this Barnstar for making Wikipedia a fun environment in which to contribute. Until next year. :) SynergeticMaggot (talk) 13:16, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Barnstar

The Working Wikipedian's Barnstar
For your recent excellent work at Wikipedia:Changing username. Your username is the most common I see appearing on my watchlist for that page. Keep up the good work! Acalamari Bellatrix! 15:47, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Thanks

Thanks for the name change. RkORToN 02:36, 4 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] RTV

Since Will's on vacation, could you look into this Wikipedia:Bureaucrats'_noticeboard#RTV_Request? MBisanz talk 02:55, 4 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Climate Group

see Diff, let me know if I missed something. Jeepday (talk) 04:07, 7 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Mosto Mostapha Bousmina

May I suggest a withdraw? References have been added and I was tempted to close it. But out of consideration I figured it would be best to ask you first. Cheers! SynergeticMaggot (talk) 20:26, 7 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] glitch with AWB

AWB is changing Herat to Heart. Please do something about that. Thanks. SwatiAfridi (talk) 04:34, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Confirmation

Per [3] the rename can go forward. MBisanz talk 05:44, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] WP:CHU

Thanks for changing my user name. Victor Lopes (talk) 17:13, 9 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Thankyou:)

Thanks for moving my acount i was Iwilleditu but thanks to u know im Save the Humans. so Thankyou :) Save The HumansTalk :) 20:27, 9 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Thanky you, Gracias and Merci!!!

Thanx 4 changing my username. Rdrgz93 (talk) 23:48, 9 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Arigato

Seems like you get this a lot ... thank you very, very much for changing my username! Yunfeng (talk) 20:44, 10 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] User:JacquesNguyen

Would you please help watch Template:History of Burma? User:JacquesNguyen changes it several times a day, accusing me of vandalism in the edit summary (I wrote the template, I am not vandalizing it, I assure you), and has never once justified his slander or changes. I see you have also had dealings with him, and would appreciate your help. Chris (クリス • フィッチ) (talk) 14:35, 11 April 2008 (UTC)

I've protected the template for one week. I hope things can get worked out in the Talk arena. Kingturtle (talk) 14:45, 11 April 2008 (UTC)
I've blocked User:JacquesNguyen indefinitely because of his latest disruptions added to his history. I'm not married to it, and if you disagree let me know and I'll reconsider, but this was his third strike for me. Cheers, --Bradeos Graphon Βραδέως Γράφων (talk) 22:15, 11 April 2008 (UTC)
Seems reasonable. Did anyone ever get a check user done to see if the account was a puppet for user:Bugeaud? Kingturtle (talk) 11:36, 12 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] User:Anoshirawan is the banned User:Tajik

Earlier you mistakenly thought he was Beh-nam, but User:Anoshirawan is the banned editor User:Tajik. His IP will confirm this because he edits from the same exact ISP or specific location in Germany.

[edit] Afghanistan

The ugly demonym business is rearing its ugly head again. Just wanted to give you a head's up and see what you thought of the user who brought it up. Thanks, hope you're well. Carl.bunderson (talk) 20:51, 13 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Widzer

the last edit was for formating, putting it into last style. is that not coorect thanks —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.211.223.181 (talk) 05:14, 14 April 2008 (UTC)


please look at page it is only a list of contrubtiuons not a resume--advice as always is welcomed...thank you reagan (talk) 16:29, 14 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Barnstar

The Working Man's Barnstar
Cause at least someone has noticed all the work you do! MezzoMezzo (talk) 16:05, 16 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Redlinking at Grundy

Hi, please write the article before you link it. Also, I feel strongly that the free image of the illustration from Grundy's show is better viewed at the larger size. It is a free image, so it can be larger. If you want to contribute something to the article, please do some research and write something about Grundy. Please don't just drop in to give me a hard time on formatting issues. Thanks. -- Ssilvers (talk) 19:20, 18 April 2008 (UTC)

I'm not giving you a hard time about the formatting. The image is much too big. And as for the red link, don't fear the red links. They are our friends. Kingturtle (talk) 18:33, 19 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Wikipedia:Lectures

Theres an irc channel up every sunday. I figured maybe you would like to attend? We're late at starting but its starting about now. In case your interested. (wikipedia-en-lectures) SynergeticMaggot (talk) 15:21, 20 April 2008 (UTC)