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[edit] Friendly neighborhood stalker

Thank you, while I don't need such nice words they certainly never hurt. May you go in God's care. Peter Deer (talk) 08:52, 7 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Wahhabism

Thanks, although, I only did a little bit of formatting :) --gren グレン 15:51, 11 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Criticism

Okay, thanks for the heads up! --Enzuru 20:14, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Albani

I added a note to the Albani talk page, please have a look. From you Muslim friend (who happens to be a Maliki) but we're all friends under the umbrella of Allah and following the Messenger ; )

Jaw101ie (talk) 00:53, 21 May 2008 (UTC)

Mezzo Mezzo, I'm scared, I don't want to edit any articles on Islam. I don't want to be judged for writing the wrong thing.

In fact what do you personally think about religion and the internet, I get the impression that it's the source of more bad than good. Anything you search on Google just leads to thread after thread (I call it PamphletIslam) of one group crunching into the other; why can't we all just unite! We're all Muslim, we all said La Illaha Illa Allah Muhammad(PBUH) rasullu Allah.

Is it really the end of the world, if I pray with my hands by my side (following a 'weaker' sunna) or my friend doesn't eat seaood because he's a Muslim who follows the hanafi school, or that you'd prefer I make my own ijtihads? I think that I'm going to avoid Islam and the internet for a while inshallah and move on to just respecting everyone in my prayer room and they respecting me. Rather than fighting about the minute, or shouting bid'ah at the elderly, I just want to escape into a forest and read Quran and be rid of all this waswasa and fighting. Good Luck Bruv, you can do what you like with the Albani article, I'm off it, and I've left my message of unity, SalaamuAlaykum and best of luck with life! Jaw101ie (talk) 02:18, 21 May 2008 (UTC)

Salamu Alaykum, thank you very much for the post. You're right, I know what it was; it's not that I had a bad experience discussing the deen, just bad experiences reading the bad discussions. I've been trapped in a strange internal satanic madhhab/salafist fight for the last few days, and I've decided to stick with my madhhab.
But, having made that decision, and reading the 'bad discussions', I got the silly impression that I was haram, then the salafists haram, then i was haram, then the salafists haram.... hehe.. It doesn't stop. Then I thought the salafists hate me, and that I should hate the salafists, then they should hate me, then I should hate them, again it goes on... In fact it won't stop until we all stopping making takfeer of each other and stop using these words to label ourselves, respect each other as Muslims!
and acknowledge that we all want to follow the Quran and sunna (we just read them through different paths). It's also important that we don't generalise, because I think that's what the internet discussions do sometimes; they give you a bad impression of a 'type' of Muslim, because we only have an i.d. to hide behind.
Our imam is a Muslim salafi, I'm sure, but I love him and he loves me too, and knows that I follow the Maliki madhhab. Again it's just the shaytan that puts those words in our brain, and wants us to forget we're muslims. If we adopted the same attitude on Wikipedia, we could get lots of Christians and Jews to convert for sure. They'd say 'look how well all these Muslim 'groups' edit together'.
Instead, like you said, we chop each other up and the shaytan rules victorious yet again over us. My father used to tell me as a child when I lived in Ireland, that if all the Muslim doctors in the hospital acted as real muslims, then not a Christian patient would leave their care than submit to our one true Allah and the wisdom and warmth of his messenger. It's true!
It's just sad actually, the kind of discussions that reign on the internet. I hope we can all love and respect each other, if only for the sake of brotherhood. Forgive my rant; I'm opening up to someone I don't even know but I just want to vent some of my anger at all the takfeer and hatrid I've seen in the last few weeks. Salafist, shmalafist, whatever you follow brother, you're a Muslim in my eyes so best of luck with everything, and I'll be back soon for edits or just to say hello, SalaamuAlaykum ; ) Jaw101ie (talk) 05:28, 21 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Al-Azhar University

Hi, I noticed you made a very sensible edit on the Al-Azhar University page a couple of days ago. Some anonymous Wiki user tried to sneak in the untrue and unsourced phrase "it became a Sunni school when Saladin converted Egyptians by force to Sunni Islam", and you promptly reverted this change back to its original "it became a Sunni school towards the end of the Middle Ages, an orientation it retains to this day". I thought you'd like to know that that same anonymous user has been trying since to insert that same bogus phrase into the article. He has even included some fake references that do not state anywhere that "Saladin converted Egyptians by force to Sunni Islam" to create the illusion that what he is saying is fact. I've exposed his lies in some detail on the talk page, but the guy just doesn't get it and keeps re-inserting the phrase. He has now gotten belligerent and no longer even bothers trying to justify his edits; he just reverts. I would appreciate some back up on this one. Causteau (talk) 05:24, 1 June 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for your understanding. I just checked the page, and would you believe it, the vandal is back with his bogus sources in tow. He already reverted the page! Causteau (talk) 06:26, 1 June 2008 (UTC)
I've just finished posting a message on the Administrators' noticeboard. It's the second one I'm posting there, but something tells me this one will be taken more seriously since it's now two separate editors versus this one lone vandal. Thanks again for the help, BTW. I'll also be keeping an eye on the page. If ever you need any assistance yourself on any matter, let me know and I've got your back. Causteau (talk) 06:41, 1 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Categories

Looking into some of the edits by the anon, some of them look okay, and others were disruptive. Some were definitely grey-area though. For example, I'm not sure it was wise to revert him here.[1] Per WP:BLP, we shouldn't be calling someone a terrorist, unless we have a clear sourced statement right in the article, that proves that the individual has been called a terrorist in reliable sources. --Elonka 05:29, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Edit summaries

MezzoMezzo, could you please tone things down a bit in your edit summaries? Don't use the words "you" or "your". Please try to keep things very calm, very civil, and in the third person. Thanks, Elonka 04:37, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] ANI thread

MezzoMezzo, why would you want to start a new ANI thread? The purpose of posting at ANI, is to get an admin's attention. Well, you have my attention. Your best bet is to work with me for a bit, rather than trying to further escalate things. --Elonka 04:41, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Ghaleb

MezzoMezzo, please stop re-adding "Terrorist" categories to articles,[2] unless the word "terrorist" is already in the article, and it is linked to reliable sources. --Elonka 04:46, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] 'Amr ibn al-'As

You are engaging in an edit war at this article, but not participating at talk. Please stop reverting, unless you can also explain your edits at the discussion page. Thanks, Elonka 04:50, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Wikipedia:Suspected sock puppets/Klaksonn

I replied to your report. You may ask an administrator to block NAccount and semi-protect his favorite articles at WP:ANI. If you can list articles on his "hit list" other than Al-Azhar University, that will help the administrator who answers your request. Shalom (Hello • Peace) 16:36, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

I've posted some comments on your report and included some difs for support. Reading some of the other posts on this user, the evidence against him is so overwhelming, I find it difficult to believe any administrators would look the other way. I've also included links to the FBI website, which conclusively show that a couple of the men whose pages he removed links from are indeed internationally wanted terror suspects. Causteau (talk) 12:29, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

Replied to your comment. → AA (talk) — 13:43, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Re:Klaksonn SSP

Regarding that whole issue, should I go forward and formally request a checkuser now? And are we running this specifically on Klaksonn's old contribs? I've never done this before so I have no idea how it works. MezzoMezzo (talk) 14:43, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

Everything is explained at WP:RFCU. There's a template there that you have to fill in. By the way, MezzoMezzo, your name has been brought up and involved in a few disputes and that is really not a good thing. You may be wrong, you may be right but it is important to remain calm and to make sure you abide by NPOV policy. We have already talked about this a few weeks ago. Please, edit carefully and discuss your edits in a calm way. -- FayssalF - Wiki me up® 08:12, 5 June 2008 (UTC)
Thanks for the help with this. I'll try to cool off and give some thought to how i've dealt with disputes in the past. So far what i've been doing hasn't worked very well. MezzoMezzo (talk) 16:06, 5 June 2008 (UTC)
I will take this as a promise from your part. -- FayssalF - Wiki me up® 16:24, 5 June 2008 (UTC)