User talk:Patken4

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Hello Patken4...I'm a wikipedia user who also happens to be a Wichita Wings fan, and I wanted to ask you about the reversions you made on the Wings page. I heard that the National Alliance Soccer League bought the rights to the Wichita Wings name, and they were going to revive them, albeit in a much lesser indoor league. I wrote the sports editor of The Wichita Eagle, and he confirmed that this was the case. Since then (late November), I haven't heard anything about the Wings or this new soccer league. I was writing to ask if you had any news about the Wings current status, as I'd like to know more. If you do, please leave a message on my talk page. Thanks, Borksamoht 08:05, 13 December 2005 (UTC)

Nevermind, I realize now that you edited a page that already had reference to the NASL removed by an anonymous editor. If you do know more about the current status of the Wings, please do let me know, but if you don't, I quite understand. Thanks, Borksamoht 22:43, 13 December 2005 (UTC)

Contents 1 Chatsworth Stadium 2 AfD nomination of Chatsworth Stadium 3 The Movement 4 NBA Arenas 5 Welcome (long overdue) 6 Dodgers 7 Are you? 8 Stadium stubs 9 OVC 10 WP:AFL 11 College Arenas 12 Hietalahti, Vaasa 13 Jimmy Cannon 14 locations 15 German arenas 16 WikiProject NBL 17 Project 18 New arenas being built 19 An error on one of your stadium articles 20 Award 21 GREAT WORK 22 Notice 23 Mike Reid 24 African footy articles 25 Unofficial teams 26 Bougainville national football team 27 Please Use Edit Summaries 28 Another barnstar 29 Cuban baseball venues 30 Quebec teams 31 your addition to Memorial Coliseum (Lexington) 32 TRNC Stadia 33 PSCC 34 American Hockey League 35 Your ice hockey articles 36 AHL overtime loss 37 List of Manchester United players 38 Palacio de los Deportes (Heredia) 39 AfD Nomination: Republic of Saugeais national football team 40 List of Manchester United F.C. players 41 SECC 42 Navajo Nation national soccer team 43 Multi-Purpose Events Center 44 AfD nomination of Malaya Sportivnaya Arena 45 couple venues 46 Bob Murray 47 Campbell Center 48 3RR report 49 Waldstadion (Aalen) and Städtisches Waldstadion 50 WPBiography 51 DEFAULTSORT 52 Dan Daoust 53 Re:DEFAULTSORT 54 Joffre Desilets 55 Ice Hockey Project discussion of hockey player notability and project scope 56 People from categories 57 New Articles 58 Finnish ice hockey players 59 Baseball players new articles 60 Article Creation 61 Bot messages 62 A message 63 Hi Patken...thanks for all the blue links.  :) 64 ==Some more thoughts== 65 Verb tense 66 Stubs 67 AfD nomination of Székesfehérvár Ice Hall 68 Moose Goheen/Temp 69 College Football Hall of Fame 70 Merges 71 WikiProject Ice Hockey August 2007 Newsletter 72 Hello WikiProject Ice Hockey/Participant 73 Manchester United F.C. seasons 74 AfD nomination of Real Tamale United 75 Man Utd league title winners 76 Harry McShane (footballer) 77 Arena:MK or arena:mk? 78 WikiProject Ice Hockey newsletter 79 Copyright violation in Dickey-Stephens Park 80 Jon Vaughn 81 Invitation to comment on the baseball All-time roster standardization 82 Jackson Sports Arena 83 DYK October 20 84 Most prolific article writers 85 Krylatskoe Sport Palace 86 English Field 87 Virginia Tech Lacrosse and Soccer Stadium 88 RfA thanks 89 AfD nomination of Virginia Tech Lacrosse and Soccer Stadium 90 Pavlodar Central Stadium 91 AfD nomination of Gerard Gauthier 92 *grumble* 93 Stacy Peterson 94 AfD nomination of Tom Davies 95 Tom Davies 96 The Hastily Cobbled Together for a Fast Buck Album 97 AfD nomination of The Hastily Cobbled Together for a Fast Buck Album 98 hey 99 Aragon Ballroom (Chicago) 100 Montreal Canadiens players 101 WikiProject Ice Hockey Newsletter 102 WikiProject Ice Hockey March 2008 Newsletter 103 Living hockey players 104 An Invite to join Saskatchewan WikiProject 105 Additions to the Utah and Rhode Island college football venues tempates 106 List of Sports Stadiums 107 Glaspalast (Ludwigsburg) 108 Speedy deletion of König Palast 109 Yea 110 Infobox 111 WikiCookie 112 Hey man! 113 AfD nomination of Estadio de Beisbol Lic.Eduardo Vasconcelos 114 WikiProject Sports facilities 115 Naming conventions 116 thank you 117 Infobox 118 New Carisbrook

[edit] Chatsworth Stadium

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Thanks for the addition to the page! I understand how there is some notability now, but now I'm trying to find some kind of concrete evidence that Chatsworth Stadium is, or rather was, the old Kings Park Soccer Stadium. I'm not sure if you're from Durban, but if you are, you will know that there is a stadium in Chatsworth, a significant distance from Kings Park, where games are still played. If, in fact there are two notable stadia in Durban called 'Chatsworth', I'll swallow my words, but I have the feeling that there in an error somewhere and that this mistake is just being accepted on WP, and any changes or attempts to change it will just be rv because it looks like I'm just trying to delete an entire article, and people don't take kindly to that. I'm happy with keeping Chatsworth Stadium, but I'd like to remove all ties with Kings Park. I'd appreciate some help trying to sort it all out. Please! GetDownAdam (talk) 15:29, 26 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] AfD nomination of Chatsworth Stadium

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[edit] The Movement

What does this one think of the movement? --Kin Khan 02:01, 22 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] NBA Arenas

Hey, I noticed that you put up the arena histories of all the NBA teams on the infoboxes. Even though I completly agree that this information needs to be somewhere in the article, I'm not quite entirely certain if that info need to be on the infobox. Do you think you can intergrate this information within the articles itself, like using an "Arena History" subsection inside a team's history section of an article?

Thanks Dknights411 17:44, 25 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Welcome (long overdue)

[edit] Dodgers

It's fun to work together at the same time. Don't be shy if you think I made changes that you don't like. I am related to the O'Malleys, but not to Walter. He would be a cousin to my cousins. We married into a different branch of the family. --Richard Arthur Norton (1958- ) 00:04, 5 September 2007 (UTC) Welcome!

Hello, Patken4, and welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for your contributions. I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Here are a few good links for newcomers:

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[edit] Are you?

Are you just going through all my submissions? If so thanks alot, I appricate any help with them as I can get.

[edit] Stadium stubs

Thanks for creating them. Really, I had some of them on my to do list for ages, but it took a guy like you to actually start the articles. :) //Halibutt 00:13, 25 March 2006 (UTC)

When you create stadium stubs, please put in a link to some site about the stadium, for verification. [1] is useful. Otherwise, someone else has to do work to verify the article or mark it for deletion. Expecially today, on April 1st, when anything that looks bogus and doesn't have references has to be checked. Thanks. --John Nagle 18:16, 1 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] OVC

YOU ARE QUICK! Thanks for adding those last two tourney arenas...you beat me to it. WillC 22:55, 29 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] WP:AFL

Hi mate, I suggest you take a look at WikiProject AFL if you love your footy, and also Category:VFL/AFL players. Drop us a line with any questions mate. Cheers, Rogerthat ^Talk 06:26, 1 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] College Arenas

Texas A&M Corpus Christi plays at the old Memorial Coliseum, 402 S Shoreline Blvd, Corpus Christi, TX, tel.(361) 884-8227, but the box links to the Memorial Coliseum in Portland, OR. Can you fix this, please. This is under Division I College Basketball Independents. Thanks. Ross P. rossp

[edit] Hietalahti, Vaasa

Is Hietalahti, Vaasa really only a stadium? I thought it was a full district. I have only been in Vaasa once, and did not visit any other parts than the railway station and the ferry terminal, so I've never actually been to Hietalahti. Do you live in Vaasa, by any chance? JIP | Talk 08:30, 4 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Jimmy Cannon

Hi Patken, you might want to expand this article a bit more. Why is he interesting or significant? Why is it important that he was inducted into the Boxing Hall of Fame? etc. --pfctdayelise (translate?) 14:30, 7 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] locations

if the conference websites don't have them and i can't find them online, i next email the school that won it that year....i have been doing this since january....i have less than a dozen to go. WillC 22:05, 12 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] German arenas

Hi! I have just announced some of your new stubs at Portal:Germany/New article announcements. If you write more about German sports venues, please announce your articles there so German editors see them and can add interwiki links etc. Thank you, and happy editing! Kusma (討論) 01:14, 15 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] WikiProject NBL

Hey mate. I saw that you have been involved alot in basketball and would like to invite you to WikiProject NBL. Please add your name here to the members list and drop a line on my talk page. Cheers Jasrocks 10:14, 17 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Project

Take a look at the venues that have no wiki entries on http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clash_of_the_Champions

You seem to be able to find info for venues faster than me....WillC 17:11, 18 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] New arenas being built

I go to www.arenadigest.com to get information on the new arenas, and I usually Google to confirm. User:Odulumni99

[edit] An error on one of your stadium articles

Hi, I just caught a major error on one of your stadium articles. (Tom Kimbrough Stadium) I just want to inform you but I will correct the mistake. The West Texas A&M University football stadium is formally called, Kimbrough Memorial Stadium and it is named after West Texas State University's former football coach and athletic director Frank Kimbrough.[2] I will transfer the information regarding West Texas A&M University to Kimbrough Memorial Stadium while I put some new info in Tom Kimbrough Stadium article because there is such a stadium in another part of Texas. :-) --Who What Where Nguyen Why 06:33, 8 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Award

Keep up the good work! - Darwinek 21:46, 21 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] GREAT WORK

Keep up the good work on China football and stadiums!!!! James Janderson 14:36, 16 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Notice

I just thought you might want to know that your article Angel Pagan has been nominated for deletion. Thanks, User:Clay4president

[edit] Mike Reid

Outstanding job on the Mike Reid article. I hope you don't mind: I duplicated your comments on my talk page on the disambiguation talk page as well. Thanks for the push in the right direction. (I, too, am an avid college football fan, but not not much of a fan of country music.) —Xanderer 03:00, 27 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] African footy articles

Nice work on the Burkina Faso football (soccer) stuff. I've been following behind filling in the odd bit of info from the French articles, but you're a long way ahead of me. For the Angolan ones I haven't checked, but maybe there will be something in the Portuguese Wiki I can steal. Again, great stuff ! Angus McLellan (Talk) 21:42, 22 August 2006 (UTC)

Hi your knowledge of football stadiums and football in obscure countries never ceases to amaze me! Where do you get this stuff from? James Janderson 14:02, 24 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Unofficial teams

You have created quite a number of "unofficial" national teams, I'd like to know the reasoning. --Cat out 15:42, 27 August 2006 (UTC)

I created an article for each of the non-FIFA playing nations because other articles existed for like situations. I just stubbed out the remainders. Patken4 03:20, 28 August 2006 (UTC)

Why not present them in a list. I dont think any will get really large. --Cat out 03:22, 28 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Bougainville national football team

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[edit] Please Use Edit Summaries

Deenoe 14:25, 4 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Another barnstar

		Football (soccer) barnstar
		I award this barnstar to Patken4 for creating articles on a number of football clubs. Conscious 09:56, 11 September 2006 (UTC)

Hi I wonder if there is a Category:Handball venues you may want to look into. Ernst Stavro Blofeld 13:40, 14 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Cuban baseball venues

Thanks for stubbing out a bunch of baseball venues in Cuba. I have added coordinates to nearly all, so if you click on the coordinates and then go to Google satellite maps, you can see the buildings themselves. Thanks again! Rolando (talk) 17:49, 24 September 2006 (UTC)

Hi nice baseball stubs but isn't there national categories e.g Puerto Rican baseball players and American baseball players? Ernst Stavro Blofeld 13:03, 30 September 2006 (UTC)

Hi yes my thoughts exactly. Could you imagine how many American baseball players!!!!! There is one for Puerto Rico though and others I beat you to it though! Ernst Stavro Blofeld 13:13, 30 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Quebec teams

Do you know anything about Quebec Junior "AAA" hockey? DMighton 00:16, 11 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] your addition to Memorial Coliseum (Lexington)

I see you added Category:Defunct college basketball venues to Memorial Coliseum (Lexington). The UK Women's team still plays most of their games there, so I would think that this category would not apply. --rogerd 02:03, 19 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] TRNC Stadia

Thanks for creating TRNC stadia articles!

• I'd rather keep my anonymity.

[edit] PSCC

That was a pleasant surprise! I work very near that venue. Nice place.  :) - Lucky 6.9 03:53, 25 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] American Hockey League

Thanks for helping out with the Aldege "Baz" Bastien Memorial Award article. Flibirigit 14:02, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Your ice hockey articles

Hi there! It's great you have written so many ice hockey-related articles! However, please remember to use past tense (ie., 'He went on to win ...' instead of 'He would go on to win...'). If you could change that in all your contributions, that would be great! Cheers! Yuser31415 02:27, 13 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] AHL overtime loss

Your comments are sought at this talk page. Talk:American_Hockey_League#Overtime_Loss. Thanks! !!!! Flibirigit 18:28, 15 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] List of Manchester United players

Thanks for the link. That website does have Alfred Steward but misspelled his surname (Alfred Stewart). Yes, Alf Steward=Alfred Steward. I didn't bother to look for the Alf Steward article assuming that no one created it yet. Silly me, ;) --Crzycheetah 04:41, 23 December 2006 (UTC)

It seems like Crzycheetah has answered the question. I agree it should be the same. As for whether you can help, I suppose you can just add more players to the list. Thanks for your help! Thaurisil 10:37, 23 December 2006 (UTC)

Hi, I noticed you have added just about every player left on the List of Manchester United players. Thanks, that's really great! However, I would like to draw to your attention that some of the appearance counts of the players you have added are wrong. I think you may have read the appearance counts on this website wrongly. For example, for Harry Moger, you listed him as having 242 apps and 22 subs. However, the website lists him as having 242 league appearances and 22 FA Cup appearances. Also, that website only lists appearances in the league and the FA Cup, but not in other matches. In this other website, Harry Moger is listed as having 266 appearances with 2 appearances in "other matches". I have corrected their appearance counts, and a link to the edit can be found here. If you do not agree with me, feel free to revert the edit. Once again, thank you for your help and Merry Christmas! Thaurisil 15:54, 25 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Palacio de los Deportes (Heredia)

I've added the "{{prod}}" template to the article Palacio de los Deportes (Heredia), suggesting that it be deleted according to the proposed deletion process. All contributions are appreciated, but I don't believe it satisfies Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion, and I've explained why in the deletion notice (see also "What Wikipedia is not" and Wikipedia's deletion policy). Please either work to improve the article if the topic is worthy of inclusion in Wikipedia, or, if you disagree with the notice, discuss the issues at Talk:Palacio de los Deportes (Heredia). You may remove the deletion notice, and the article will not be deleted, but note that it may still be sent to Articles for Deletion, where it may be deleted if consensus to delete is reached, or if it matches any of the speedy deletion criteria. Oo7565 22:36, 23 December 2006 (UTC) \ yeah it ok i added the expand tag for you to get evem more help okOo7565 05:46, 24 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] AfD Nomination: Republic of Saugeais national football team

I've nominated the article Republic of Saugeais national football team for deletion under the Articles for deletion process. We appreciate your contributions, but in this particular case I do not feel that Republic of Saugeais national football team satisfies Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion. I have explained why in the nomination space (see What Wikipedia is not and Deletion policy). Your opinions on the matter are welcome; please participate in the discussion by adding your comments at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Republic of Saugeais national football team. Don't forget to add four tildes (~~~~) at the end of each of your comments to sign them. You are free to edit the content of Republic of Saugeais national football team during the discussion, but please do not remove the "Articles for Deletion" template (the box at the top). Doing so will not end the discussion. Sandstein 22:50, 8 January 2007 (UTC)

• The same goes for South Lower Saxony national football team. Sandstein 23:24, 8 January 2007 (UTC)

• Also Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Somaliland national football team, Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Rijeka national football team and probably more soon. Sandstein 20:19, 9 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] List of Manchester United F.C. players

I have nominated the List of Manchester United F.C. players to be a featured list. You may view the nomination here and state your support/objection. Thanks! Thaurisil 04:00, 21 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] SECC

You recently made an article on the Glasgow SECC Areana. From what it read, you were actually describing the SECC. I would have thought the Glasgow SECC Areana page should only be used for the upincoming building and not the current building on the Clyde. Your thoughts? -Coolmark18 15:16, 22 January 2007 (UTC)

You think the changes I made are okay? I was looking for the 'planned building' box just before you put it there =p -Coolmark18 00:59, 23 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Navajo Nation national soccer team

I have added a "{{prod}}" template to the article Navajo Nation national soccer team, suggesting that it be deleted according to the proposed deletion process. All contributions are appreciated, but I don't believe it satisfies Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion, and I've explained why in the deletion notice (see also "What Wikipedia is not" and Wikipedia's deletion policy). Please either work to improve the article if the topic is worthy of inclusion in Wikipedia, or, if you disagree with the notice, discuss the issues at its talk page. Removing the deletion notice will prevent deletion through the proposed deletion process, but the article may still be sent to Articles for Deletion, where it may be deleted if consensus to delete is reached, or if it matches any of the speedy deletion criteria. Fram 10:54, 26 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Multi-Purpose Events Center

I have added a "{{prod}}" template to the article Multi-Purpose Events Center, suggesting that it be deleted according to the proposed deletion process. All contributions are appreciated, but I don't believe it satisfies Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion, and I've explained why in the deletion notice (see also "What Wikipedia is not" and Wikipedia's deletion policy). Please either work to improve the article if the topic is worthy of inclusion in Wikipedia, or, if you disagree with the notice, discuss the issues at its talk page. Removing the deletion notice will prevent deletion through the proposed deletion process, but the article may still be sent to Articles for Deletion, where it may be deleted if consensus to delete is reached, or if it matches any of the speedy deletion criteria. TheRingess (talk) 17:33, 3 February 2007 (UTC)

I don't mind if you remove the prod.TheRingess (talk) 19:05, 3 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] AfD nomination of Malaya Sportivnaya Arena

I've nominated Malaya Sportivnaya Arena, an article you created, for deletion. We appreciate your contributions, but in this particular case I do not feel that Malaya Sportivnaya Arena satisfies Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion; I have explained why in the nomination space (see also "What Wikipedia is not" and the Wikipedia deletion policy). Your opinions on the matter are welcome; please participate in the discussion by adding your comments at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Malaya Sportivnaya Arena and please be sure to sign your comments with four tildes (~~~~). You are free to edit the content of Malaya Sportivnaya Arena during the discussion but should not remove the articles for deletion template from the top of the article; such removal will not end the deletion discussion. Thank you.Inkpaduta 22:06, 4 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] couple venues

i cannot find any sources about the john jay center on the campus of robert morris in pittsburgh....also, if you have anything on the atlanta memorial auditorium, also known as the atlanta city auditorium, that would be great...the southern conference tournament venues of the 1920s have been hard to come by. jjc is from the northeast conference. WillC 16:35, 10 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Bob Murray

Hello, Patken4. Just thought I'd let you know, you've created a Bob Murray page, that was already at Wikipedia. See Bob Murray (hockey player). Perhaps we could combine the 2 pages? GoodDay 19:58, 6 March 2007 (UTC)

I've created my 'Bob Murray' page, a mere 2-days before you created yours. Great minds, think alike. GoodDay 20:11, 6 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Campbell Center

THANKS! WillC 21:41, 11 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] 3RR report

Generally, you should provide diffs of reverts when reporting there. However, the edits made by the anonymous user are obvious and disruptive vandalism. Reverting clear vandalism is an exception to the 3RR, however, you did do right to ask if you were unsure. I've warned the anonymous editor to stop, if it continues, report the user at WP:AIV. Seraphimblade ^{Talk to me} 02:01, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Waldstadion (Aalen) and Städtisches Waldstadion

Hi Patken4, these two articles refer to the same stadium. It might help for your decision which one to keep, to know that the German article is at de:Städtisches Waldstadion Aalen, which is the official name, with "Städtisches" meaning "civic", however Waldstadion is the most common name. Cheers, --Dealerofsalvation 19:35, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] WPBiography

I notied that you were creating stubs on hockey players. When you start the talk page with {{ice hockey}}, could you also tag it with {{WPBiography|living=yes}} if the hockey player in question is still alive? Thanks. Hbdragon88 01:20, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] DEFAULTSORT

The correct syntax for DEFAULTSORT is {{DEFAULTSORT:sortkey}}

DEFAULTSORT is a magic word, not a template. For more info, see Help:Categories#Default sort key and Help:Magic words#Miscellany --DStoykov 20:44, 31 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Dan Daoust

Oh my, you just created the Dan Daoust article just as I was creating it. I was just starting before I flipped to another page when I flipped back someone else had already created it. Now there's a nice coincidence. Thanks for doing my work for me! lol. Croat Canuck Go Leafs Go 16:35, 15 April 2007 (UTC)

How True. Croat Canuck Go Leafs Go 16:37, 15 April 2007 (UTC)

Wow this is getting creepy, I knew you were gonna create the Iain Duncan page next cuz it was the only other one red-linked on my favourite personal creation NHL All-Rookie Team. Croat Canuck Go Leafs Go 16:50, 15 April 2007 (UTC)

Haha, there's almost a competition now between us to see who can create the articles for the best players in the dwindling articleless players pool. I think I'm done, because searching through the list I just can't see any more articles with any biographical meat on them, the last article I created today was of Bruce Crowder, and he played only 243 games and scored 98 points back in the 80s, and after him there's another significant drop off in career notability out of the players still without articles. But be sure to let me know if you somehow find someone else notable and manage to create an article about them. Croat Canuck Go Leafs Go 16:55, 26 April 2007 (UTC)

Yeah I agree I think we basically have all of them. Friendly Competition is never a bad thing, I kinda have this competitive streak where I want to have the most (and most notable) NHL player articles created on Wikipedia, and SkudraFan1 gives me some competition there, its pretty stupid but its hard to argue with the results. Right now though I'm pretty much done creating stubs for awhile, I'm more going for maintenance, clicking on random player articles and making sure they are up to snuff. Croat Canuck Go Leafs Go 18:57, 28 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Re:DEFAULTSORT

Great! Thanks! I was aware of it but I wasn't entirely sure how to do it or how it worked but I'll do it from now on. Croat Canuck Go Leafs Go 15:28, 26 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Joffre Desilets

Hello. Joffre Desilets, an article you recently created, does not properly cite its sources, as requested in WP:CITE. Please include a full citation for every source used in the article. Yours truly, Boricuaeddie^{Talk • Contribs • Spread the love!} 18:38, 28 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Ice Hockey Project discussion of hockey player notability and project scope

Please come join the WikiProject Ice Hockey Notability standards for hockey players discussion. I'd like to see input from all our project members who have an opinion. Thanks! ColtsScore 02:37, 4 May 2007 (UTC)

I see you have done lot of articles about Finnish icehockey players. Please also add interwiki links to Finnish language Wikipedia [[fi:]] . --Zzzzzzzzzz 01:48, 17 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] People from categories

There is a lot of contention about the use of the people from categories. You seem to be using it to designate place of birth. From what I can tell this is against convention. Please respond before expending too much more time contributing to the project in this manner. TonyTheTiger (talk/cont/bio) 18:32, 9 May 2007 (UTC)

My concern is that it is preferable to use people from categories to describe where people were raised or resided for legthy periods of time. A good example of a well policed category is Category:People_from_Wilmette,_Illinois. I have seen much debate at WP:CFD about proper uses of such categories. I am not sure everyone in Category:People from Chicago belongs there simply based on their birth. I concede that maybe they don't have a hospital in Wilmette and thus can't have births there. I am not sure.TonyTheTiger (talk/cont/bio) 19:21, 10 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] New Articles

Hello there, I see all the new articles you have been creating here on Wikipedia - and I am trying to keep up with you! While I am busily assessing the articles with the WPBIO, could you also attach some tags to the article as well? {expand} and {unreferenced} if you can't get back to them to flesh them out? Also a {reflist} to automatically handle any references added in at a later date. Again, thank you and it has been - a challenge - to keep up with you! --Ozgod 03:43, 19 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Finnish ice hockey players

Are you creating articles about Finnish ice hockey players with some pre-defined template? I had to fix several of your articles that contained misspelled surnames (they were missing the diacritics on ä and ö). Not only that, but some of them had interwiki links to the Finnish Wikipedia, which led to nonexistent articles even when I corrected their spelling. Also, Ilves is an ice hockey team, not a place, and the wikilink to Nokia goes to the mobile phone company - I think you meant Nokia, Finland. JIP | Talk 17:02, 20 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Baseball players new articles

Hello and thank you for your great work with creating that NHL players articles. I see you are now creating articles about baseball players. Please, insert always also a death year and place information. Thank you. :) - Darwinek 19:51, 28 May 2007 (UTC)

Including real full names would be good, too. - Darwinek 20:07, 28 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Article Creation

A tag has been placed on Nemo Leibold, requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under the criteria for speedy deletion, because it is a very short article providing little or no context to the reader. Please see Wikipedia:Stub for our minimum information standards for short articles. Also please note that articles must be on notable subjects and should provide references to reliable sources that verify their content.

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While I (and it seems others) appreciate your dedication to producing content, I think your efforts can be utilized by focusing on quality not quantity. Every article you have created (that i have reviewed) seems to do nothing more than list what teams a baseball player played for, the dates of birth & death (if applicable), and a snipet of information. These articles all meet the WP:SPEEDY criteria. I have marked a number of your pages as such. It would be great for you to spend some time creating articles with referenced content that does more than just state a bare boned list of facts. I will be happy to provide you with some examples of articles that are created with good content. Nothing personal and be well! I have marked this page for watching, if you want to continue discussing, we can do so on here. //Tecmobowl 00:43, 30 May 2007 (UTC)

The thing is, they are basic stub articles. They contain basic information about the subject matter. All the information is properly sourced. If the articles were to be expanded, they would currently have a decent introductory paragraph. I don't see anything in WP:STUB that would disqualify the articles. Patken4 00:50, 30 May 2007 (UTC)

While I appreciate the effort to create stub articles, these creations do not merit inclusion in wiki at this time. Here is an example of a stub article that I wrote. It is an attempt to communicate a reasonable amount of information about the person so that it can be expanded on further at a later date. Be well. //Tecmobowl 00:57, 30 May 2007 (UTC)

Tecmobowl, if one of your reasons to delete these is that you're afraid no one will come along and improve on them, this can be easily corrected. If the baseball project has a list of articles that need to be expanded, I can add links to these articles on that list. That way, all members can simply clink on a link and improve any article and all the articles would be in a central location. Patken4 01:30, 30 May 2007 (UTC)

That is certainly "one" of my reasons, but not the only reason. You are clearly dedicated to wiki's intent, I just think we have different ways of going about it. I would love to bring in some more people to discuss this, and am open to suggestions on how to do that. I do not think that an article on a professional athlete where very little information is provided qualifies as a good stub. I too am guilty of this, so i don't want you to think I'm attacking you. During the 2007 NFL Draft, I was helping to create article stubs for athletes that were selected. I did the article for Laurent Robinson. As you can see, there is not much difference between that example, and articles you have created. I have been busy collecting information on Robinson, but if someone nominated that for deletion in the meantime, I would not complain. The fervor with which you create articles (which is quite impressive), leads me to believe you could not possibly enhance the articles and will not be doing so in the next day or so. I hope you see where I am coming from. Wikipedia is a powerful website and I would like the content to be as rich and as accurate as possible. // Tecmobowl 01:42, 30 May 2007 (UTC)

With the exception of an infobox, there really isn't anything different between the Robinson article and my recently created articles. Robinson's article and, for example, Rick Camp, both have basic biographical information (birthdate, birth city) and a basic description of their nobility. Robinson's article adds height, weight, and college. They are both basic stubs. A stub does not need to be a good stub to stay. It just needs to assert nobility, cite sources, and provide a very basic biography of the subject. Expansion from that makes it a good stub. For example, this is how the Babe Ruth article looked for the first two months of existence. Granted, Wikipedia was far less known in 2001 than today. But the Ruth article at this point did not cite sources, did not signify itself as a stub (if they existed then), and did not categorize itself (once again, it existed then). If that article existed today, it would either be speedily deleted or an expansion tag added to it. Patken4 01:57, 30 May 2007 (UTC)

As I said, I agree that the Laurent Robinson article is no different. If need be i can go place a {{db-author}} tag there. I agree that a basic biography is all that is necessary. However, I don't know that a line stating the teams the athlete played for suffices. Al Stump is a stub that I created that I believe does what is required. You will notice a couple of requests for citations, these came from a section of the Ty Cobb article. I am close to removing those as it does not appear anyone has been able to come up with a source for those statements. //Tecmobowl 02:15, 30 May 2007 (UTC)

I agree with the assertion that these are valid stubs. I have removed the CSD template from all of the affected articles, as the CSD template was used incorrectly and I don't believe the nominations were done in good faith. See my response to Tecmobowl's post on my talk page for my reasoning. Caknuck 01:26, 30 May 2007 (UTC)

Well you just said the articles were not done in good faith, it's clear that you don't understand what that means. I have elaborated on your talk page and don't know how to continue this discussion with you. // Tecmobowl 01:42, 30 May 2007 (UTC)

I understand perfectly what assuming good faith means. I invite you to review the three procedural anomalies I cited on my talk page. If you can reasonably explain your reasons for a) using CSD instead of AfD, b) not consulting the WikiProject prior to your mass nominations and c) targeting articles authored by one editor without discussing with the prior, then I will admit that my assumptions of bad faith were incorrect, and that this is just a procedural mistake. Caknuck 01:49, 30 May 2007 (UTC)

After tagging the offending pages, I came here and left a tag AND a note. I don't believe I have anything else to say to you. Let's not clutter Patken4's talkpage with this aspect of the discussion. // Tecmobowl 01:54, 30 May 2007 (UTC)

• Tecmo Banned Indefinitely. FYI--Tecmo has been banned indefinitely for repeated violations of Wiki policy.--Epeefleche 01:30, 14 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Bot messages

I removed the myriad of bot messages from your talk page. I couldn't see what purpose the repetitive message were serving. Hope you don't mind. -- No Guru 06:09, 30 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] A message

I hope that you haven't left the project. Those baseball articles that you created are very valuable to Wikipedia and I encourage you to create more. Don't let the misguided actions of one editor drive you away. -- No Guru 16:37, 31 May 2007 (UTC)

I second that. You're filling a much needed gap in the wikirecord. While I don't presume to speak to the rest of WP:WPBB's Player Task Force, I know that *I* appreciate your efforts. Caknuck 20:05, 31 May 2007 (UTC)

Calling my actions misguided is just ridiculous. I made some edits and engaged in discussion about those eidts. Other editors reverted my edits and those have remained in place. What exactly is the problem with that? Further to the point, I have openly communicated that Patken4 was a productive editor to wiki. //Tecmobowl 20:25, 31 May 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Hi Patken...thanks for all the blue links.  :)

Hey there. I want to thank you for giving everyone in my list an article. Stub or not, it is important that these people have articles, and I really appreciate you doing that. I can of course give the articles the once over and make them larger. But thanks for beginning them and thanks for staying on Wikipedia.

Keep in mind, however, that, since everyone on the list is finished...there will likely be a second list. There will be more red links. Try not to overwork yourself when you get to them.  :) -- transaspie 23:48, 31 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] ==Some more thoughts==

I have spent some more time looking at the issue of stub creation and I must say I'm much closer to your side of the issue than the side I initially started on. The more I think about it, the better I like the fact that people take your approach. I generally focus on focusing my efforts on a small group of articles at a time. This works very well with your desire to create multiple pages. In the spirit of being more productive, I have an idea for you. There are some areas that allow for people to request new articles and to list articles that need improvement. Do you think there is a way to capitalize on your efforts to make sure the articles you create make a way into a well organized list? I just think the current situation needs some attention, and I would suspect that the community could benefit from these efforts. I would be happy to have this conversation on my talk page if you don't want the content here. //Tecmobowl 00:21, 1 June 2007 (UTC)

I know at the hockey project that I am a member of, we have a list of articles we have created in the last month or so. So as someone writes a basic stub, someone else will come along and add to it. However, this list only stays around for a month or two. If there were a list of articles that need improvement (probably best to break it down at the project of each sport instead of sports in general), then others can add to articles on that list. As an article gets better, it can come off the list. It could still be a good stub at that point, but at least it has been expanded. The only problem with this is some people who are unaware of the project won't add their articles to the list. But eventually someone on the project will see it and add it.

The other suggestion is to sub-categorize the expand command. Right now, it is broken down by date someone wanted the article expanded. It might be possible to direct those to the appropriate sport. I wouldn't know where to even start with this idea. Let me know your thoughts. Patken4 00:39, 1 June 2007 (UTC)

Hope you don't mind, i wanted to keep my thoughts consistent with yours so i copied the info. I like the idea of creating a list of articles broken down by subject, we would be better off. I am hesitant to suggest something that relies heavily on my input, simply because I don't always have time to come on here and contribute. I also like your second idea, although I probably have less of an idea about where to start with that one than you do. Have you ever tried to start a "drive" or a project initiative (or whatever it is called on here). // Tecmobowl 01:22, 1 June 2007 (UTC)

That's fine. One thing I've noticed at the hockey project is we do have everything categorized on the article's talk page. What we do is add a link to the project on the talk page and someone will later categorize the article on the talk page (stub, start, A-class, B-class, GA, FA). Here is the link. We do currently have a lot of unassessed articles, but those slowly dwindle. I would think most sports would have something like this available to them. This is probably the quickest way to getting what you want done. Patken4 01:41, 1 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Verb tense

Pat, for someone who has died, you don't say "he is a former professional baseball player", you say "he was a professional baseball player". Okay? DS 18:01, 3 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Stubs

Hi there,

When you create an article such as Stade Charles de Gaulle, please include the national stub template (which is {{Benin-stub}} in the case of Stade Charles de Gaulle). Thanks--Thomas.macmillan 18:13, 3 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] AfD nomination of Székesfehérvár Ice Hall

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[edit] Moose Goheen/Temp

A tag has been placed on Moose Goheen/Temp, requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done for the following reason:

temporary copy of Moose Goheen, hasn't been touched since created on 2007-06-12T21:45:58 (UTC)

Under the criteria for speedy deletion, articles that do not meet very basic Wikipedia criteria may be deleted at any time. Please see the guidelines for what is generally accepted as an appropriate article, and if you can indicate why the subject of this article is appropriate, you may contest the tagging. To do this, add {{hangon}} on the top of the page and leave a note on the article's talk page explaining your position. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag yourself, but don't hesitate to add information to the article that would confirm its subject's notability under the guidelines.

For guidelines on specific types of articles, you may want to check out our criteria for biographies, for web sites, for bands, or for companies. Feel free to leave a note on my talk page if you have any questions about this. It doesn't appear that you're still working with this temporary copy, so I've submitted it for the speedy delete. If you still need it, let me know and I'll untag it. --健次(derumi)^talk 21:48, 15 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] College Football Hall of Fame

Hi Patken, yes I've noticed all the articles that you also made (it's nice when you see somebody who shares the same entusiasm, many articles that I wanted to create you already had created and I believe the same thing has happened with you) and also I want to congratulate for all the articles about the stadiums and arenas of the world that you have made.

Yes, I would like to finish all the articles on the College Football Hall of Fame. When I started there were missing a lot, some articles of members that were already done didn't tell that the were enshrined, and so on. However, I will be out on a vacation next week, so I won't be able to conribute much, but I appreciate your help (if you can, of course). My goal also is to have all the the articles of the players who have played at least 9 seasons in the NFL, and also of all the players taken in the first round of the NFL Draft.

Thank you again and take care.Gypaetus 04:43, 25 July 2007 (UTC)

• Thank you, Patken4, I'll be leaving on the weekend so hopefully I start with a few articles, see you later.Gypaetus 19:00, 26 July 2007 (UTC)

• Hello, Patken4, I just came back yesterday night, it was a good vacation, I saw a Seattle Seahawks scrimmage. I saw that you have begun the College Football Hall of Fame articles and that you're already in letter G. I hopefully continue in these days. Thank you for the great work. Gypaetus 18:06, 6 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Merges

Hi Patken, I would like to ask you for a favor: there are some articles of professional football players which are duplicated, I don't know how to merge or redirect, maybe you can help me. The articles are:

• Al Lolotai - Albert Lolotai,
• Larry McGrew - Lawrence McGrew,
• Melila Purcell - Melila purcell,
• Michael Spurlock - Micheal Spurlock,
• Isiah Stanback - Isaiah Stanback,

Thank you very much for your help. Gypaetus 18:21, 6 August 2007 (UTC)

• Thank you, Patken4, I didn't know how to redirect pages, but I've learned on the spot. Those pages are fixed now.Gypaetus 23:42, 6 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] WikiProject Ice Hockey August 2007 Newsletter

edit   WikiProject Ice Hockey Newsletter Dear Patken4! You are receiving this newsletter because you have signed up as a member of WikiProject Ice Hockey. The purpose of this newsletter is to update on the goings on of the project, as there have been major changes, and a lot of new recognized content in the past few weeks. If you are an inactive user, you probably won't recognize the new and improved state of the WikiProject! From the project, Maxim. edit   New recognized content By Maxim There have been a lot more Good and Featured articles written in the past few weeks. Here is a list:[1][2][3][4] Featured articles Wayne Gretzky — Promoted on 2006-02-14; on Main Page on 2006-06-13 New Jersey Devils — Promoted on 2006-11-20; on Main Page on 2007-06-30 Martin Brodeur — Promoted on 2007-04-28 Fighting in ice hockey — Promoted on 2007-05-07; on Main Page on 2007-07-19 Dominik Hasek — Promoted on 2007-05-25 Good articles Calgary Hitmen Colorado Avalanche National Hockey League Joe Sakic Nottingham Panthers Stanley Cup Traditions and anecdotes associated with the Stanley Cup Ray Emery The French Connection (hockey) Featured lists[5] List of ice hockey teams in Alberta List of ice hockey teams in Saskatchewan Frölunda HC seasons List of Colorado Avalanche players List of family relations in the National Hockey League List of New Jersey Devils players List of New Jersey Devils head coaches List of drafted Frölunda HC players Notes ^ All articles are in order of promotion, as written on the main WikiProject page; FA's have official dates of promotions. ^ A star represents a featured article or list ^ A green circle represents a good article ^ Stanley Cup is an A-Class article ^ The lists system differs from articles, and doesn't give an official date of promotion edit   Article Improvement By Maxim Upon some discussion on the WikiProject talk page, the Article Improvement Drive page was revamped by Krm500 and Maxim. It was renamed Wikipedia:WikiProject Ice Hockey/Article Improvement, and it includes two section. The first section is called articles in dire need of improvement. It list articles, usually important, that are in very poor shape. The second section is called requested help. Users list an article they request help improving a certain article, which will facilitate collaboration, which is the aim of any WikiProject. There is one article currently listed there, Henrik Lundqvist, here. The goal is to at least get it to Good article status. edit   Diacritics By Maxim In the past few weeks, there has been quite heated discussion about the use of diacritics in article name. The current guideline is using diacritics in the pages of articles of all player names which require them, but redirects are exempt. edit   Task forces By Maxim There have been two new task forces started within the WikiProject to coordinate major topics. Sweden Ice Hockey task force This task force was initiated by Krm500. Its current goal is to improve Henrik Lundqvist to Good or Featured article status. It covers all Swedish clubs, leagues and competitions and associated articles, players and coaches that are Swedish, or have played/coached for a Swedish club, and arenas in Sweden. They plan to eventually operate as a sort of a sub-project, which will have its own articles for creation, ranking importance and quality of articles, and co-ordinate article improvement. Its current members are Krm500, Bamsefar75, and CLAES. New Jersey Devils task force This task force was initiated by Bsroiaadn. Its goal is to improve New Jersey Devils to Featured Topic status. Although it currently meets the required article count, the task force wishes to improve it further. Its area of coverage is very similar to the Sweden Ice Hockey task force. Its members are Bsroiaadn, JHMM13, FutureNJGov, Sportskido8, Michael Greiner, JRWalko, and Soxrock. edit   Requested Images By Maxim After discussion on the WikiProject talk page, Serte created a page for Requested Images. The page encourages users to license images for use on articles. The page also has section to request images for players, arenas, game situations, miscellaneous, and team and league logos. The page has been quite popular; since it was created on July 21, there have been six completed requests. 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[edit] Manchester United F.C. seasons

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[edit] AfD nomination of Real Tamale United

Real Tamale United, an article you created, has been nominated for deletion. We appreciate your contributions. However, an editor does not feel that Real Tamale United satisfies Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion and has explained why in the nomination space (see also "What Wikipedia is not" and the Wikipedia deletion policy). Your opinions on the matter are welcome; please participate in the discussion by adding your comments at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Real Tamale United and please be sure to sign your comments with four tildes (~~~~). You are free to edit the content of Real Tamale United during the discussion but should not remove the articles for deletion template from the top of the article; such removal will not end the deletion discussion. Thank you. Yamakiri on Firefox 00:06, 6 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Man Utd league title winners

Wow, that's great work, mate. I didn't even think people were monitoring that page. Obviously those stubs will need a little cleanup, but you've made a great start there. Cheers. - PeeJay 00:00, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Harry McShane (footballer)

Hey there. Just wondering what source you used that states the above played for Blackpool? Neither of my (largely reliable) sources mention him. - Dudesleeper · Talk 09:33, 10 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Arena:MK or arena:mk?

The stadium is branded as stadium:mk - all lower case. Are you sure that the arena is using MK rather than mk? (yes, I know it is silly but we have to tell it like it is). [Although we are using "Stadium:mk" in body text in accordance with WP:Use English and so only the infobox uses the lower case s. But always lower case mk]. --John Maynard Friedman 12:35, 13 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] WikiProject Ice Hockey newsletter

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[edit] Copyright violation in Dickey-Stephens Park

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[edit] Jon Vaughn

You created the Jon Vaughn page. I beefed it up this week. If you get a chance look it over because it will probably be on the main page in the WP:DYK section on Friday or Saturday (see hook at T:TDYK 10/15).--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/tcfkaWCDbwincowtchatlotpsoplrttaDCLaM) 13:31, 17 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Invitation to comment on the baseball All-time roster standardization

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[edit] Jackson Sports Arena

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[edit] DYK October 20

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[edit] Most prolific article writers

A new list of the most prolific article writers is out and you're in the top 10. See description here Raul654 16:48, 5 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Krylatskoe Sport Palace

Krylatskoe Sport Palace and Dynamo sports Palace are not the same building. Krylatskoe Sport Palace was inaugurated in 2006, a dome shaped building that can be seen via satellite at these coordinates 55.756835,37.442688 Please delete your redirect page. --ArnoldPettybone 01:51, 15 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] English Field

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[edit] Virginia Tech Lacrosse and Soccer Stadium

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[edit] RfA thanks

Thank you for voting in my RfA, which passed nearly unanimously with 46 support, 1 oppose, and 0 neutral. Thanks for supporting me!

-Djsasso (talk) 18:04, 3 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] AfD nomination of Virginia Tech Lacrosse and Soccer Stadium

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[edit] Pavlodar Central Stadium

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[edit] AfD nomination of Gerard Gauthier

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[edit] *grumble*

Ignore that last bit from me. I hit a wrong button and nominated one of your articles for speedy deletion. I undid that, then came here to undo the notice. As I was scrolling over to undo the change, I accidentally clicked on the link to revert my own edit as vandalism.

I'll figure out how to operate this computer eventually...*twiddle* Gromlakh (talk) 06:21, 26 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Stacy Peterson

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[edit] AfD nomination of Tom Davies

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[edit] Tom Davies

I closed the AfD as it was my mistake creating it in the first place!! Anyway, thanks for that comment at AfD.. --Solumeiras (talk) 13:01, 1 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] The Hastily Cobbled Together for a Fast Buck Album

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[edit] hey

Thanks for editing the article I wrote on Travis Grant. Two questions: What does adding DEFAULTSORT do? What's the difference between Reflist and Reflist2? Thanks

Also, you might want to archive your talk page. It's getting very long. Enigma ^msg! 00:41, 24 February 2008 (UTC)

thanks Enigma ^msg! 05:27, 24 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Aragon Ballroom (Chicago)

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[edit] Montreal Canadiens players

Hi. I removed George McAvoy, Ernie Laforce, Frank Mailley and Mickey Murray from the List of Montreal Canadiens players, and the latter three from the List of one-gamers in the National Hockey League. My reasoning is that both of those lists use hockeydb.com as their source, and hockeydb does not list any of those players as having played in the NHL. Can you reference the additions of those players? Hockeydb is quite reliable and, if it says those players never played in the NHL, I am inclined to believe it. Skudrafan1 (talk) 19:00, 8 March 2008 (UTC)

Wow... I just noticed that you actually eliminated all the red links from List of Montreal Canadiens players. Bravo! Skudrafan1 (talk) 19:03, 8 March 2008 (UTC)

OK, cool. I assumed you had a good reference for those players, or else you wouldn't have added them in the first place. Feel free to revert my removals of those players, but may I suggest that you add a reference to each of them (again, since hockeydb.com is the source listed for those lists)? Skudrafan1 (talk) 19:11, 8 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] WikiProject Ice Hockey Newsletter

edit   WikiProject Ice Hockey Newsletter Dear Patken4! You are receiving as you are a member of WikiProject Ice Hockey There's been many more new things going on at WP:HOCKEY, and I think this will help you to stay informed. Since the last newsletter sent out in October, there have been many new changes. I'm hoping to make this newsletter a bit more regular; Kaiser matias and Skudrafan1 asked for a new issue a week ago, but sadly, I've been a bit lazy and committed to other things hence this other delay. --Maxim(talk) edit   New recognized content By Maxim There has been numerous new recognized content, so much that it's too time-consuming to sift through the "trophy cases" on WP:HOCKEY. Some interesting achievements: Hockey Hall of Fame was featured on the Main Page on March 7, 2008. AMP Energy NHL Winter Classic was promoted to Good Article status. Kaiser matias has been steadily promoting lists of NHL players per team to featured status. As of press time, List of Columbus Blue Jackets players is at FLC. Although covered in its own section, National Hockey League awards being promoted to featured topic status deserves a mention here, too. It seems that after October's issue, an interest in getting articles featured on the Main Page's Did You Know section has piqued. Half of the project's DYKs were made after October 2007. Krm500 assisted in promoting an ice-hockey related image to featured status. The featured version is Image:Wgretz edit2.jpg. Last, but certainly not least, Kim Williams has single-handedly gotten Nottingham Panthers, a British ice hockey team, promoted to featured article status. edit   Task forces By Maxim There was a new taskforce created within the WikiProject to deal with topics related to the Boston Bruins. It was originally founded as a separate WikiProject, but was quickly turned into a taskforce within WikiProject Ice Hockey. The list of participants is located here. Located at WP:BRUINS, the taskforce's goals are to make Boston Bruins and Bobby Orr featured articles. Good luck! edit   New Administrators By Maxim Since October, there have been three new admins promoted within the project: Kaiser matias (RfA) - Promoted with a final tally of 30/3/2, nominated by Epbr123 Djsasso (RfA) - Promoted with a final tally of 46/1/0, nominated by Maxim Rjd0060 (RfA) - Promoted with a final tally of 67/5/5, nominated by Ryan Postletwhaite A previously admin-only feature has been made available for all users. The rollback feature allows a user to quickly revert vandalism with one click. If you wish to have rollback, contact an active admin or post a request to WP:RFR. edit   Featured Topic Drive By Maxim The original featured topic drive, initiated by Scorpion0422, has concluded succesfully. National Hockey League awards is now a featured topic, with 24 articles in total. Of them, 20 are featured lists, one is a featured article, and the other three are trophy articles that were too short to become featured lists. Eight users signed up to help out, shown here. The next Featured Topic hasn't been decided upon, and the ideas and organization for it fell apart. If you have any ideas, don't hesitate to share them at WT:HOCKEY. edit   Notes More editors are needed to help out with the newsletter. Maxim doesn't have an infinite nor perfect supply of ideas, and thus he might omit some interesting news. Portal:Ice hockey is being considered for featured status. Feel free to nominate features at Portal:Ice hockey/Suggestions. Should Chris Pronger have been suspended for more than eight games for stomping on Ryan Kesler? Vote here!

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[edit] WikiProject Ice Hockey March 2008 Newsletter

edit   WikiProject Ice Hockey Newsletter Dear Patken4! You are receiving as you are a member of WikiProject Ice Hockey There's been many more new things going on at WP:HOCKEY, and I think this will help you to stay informed. Since the last newsletter sent out in October, there have been many new changes. I'm hoping to make this newsletter a bit more regular; Kaiser matias and Skudrafan1 asked for a new issue a week ago, but sadly, I've been a bit lazy and committed to other things hence this other delay. --Maxim(talk) edit   New recognized content By Maxim There has been numerous new recognized content, so much that it's too time-consuming to sift through the "trophy cases" on WP:HOCKEY. Some interesting achievements: Hockey Hall of Fame was featured on the Main Page on March 7, 2008. AMP Energy NHL Winter Classic was promoted to Good Article status. Kaiser matias has been steadily promoting lists of NHL players per team to featured status. As of press time, List of Columbus Blue Jackets players is at FLC. Although covered in its own section, National Hockey League awards being promoted to featured topic status deserves a mention here, too. It seems that after October's issue, an interest in getting articles featured on the Main Page's Did You Know section has piqued. Half of the project's DYKs were made after October 2007. Krm500 assisted in promoting an ice-hockey related image to featured status. The featured version is Image:Wgretz edit2.jpg. Last, but certainly not least, Kim Williams has single-handedly gotten Nottingham Panthers, a British ice hockey team, promoted to featured article status. edit   Task forces By Maxim There was a new taskforce created within the WikiProject to deal with topics related to the Boston Bruins. It was originally founded as a separate WikiProject, but was quickly turned into a taskforce within WikiProject Ice Hockey. The list of participants is located here. Located at WP:BRUINS, the taskforce's goals are to make Boston Bruins and Bobby Orr featured articles. Good luck! edit   New Administrators By Maxim Since October, there have been three new admins promoted within the project: Kaiser matias (RfA) - Promoted with a final tally of 30/3/2, nominated by Epbr123 Djsasso (RfA) - Promoted with a final tally of 46/1/0, nominated by Maxim Rjd0060 (RfA) - Promoted with a final tally of 67/5/5, nominated by Ryan Postletwhaite A previously admin-only feature has been made available for all users. The rollback feature allows a user to quickly revert vandalism with one click. If you wish to have rollback, contact an active admin or post a request to WP:RFR. edit   Featured Topic Drive By Maxim The original featured topic drive, initiated by Scorpion0422, has concluded succesfully. National Hockey League awards is now a featured topic, with 24 articles in total. Of them, 20 are featured lists, one is a featured article, and the other three are trophy articles that were too short to become featured lists. Eight users signed up to help out, shown here. The next Featured Topic hasn't been decided upon, and the ideas and organization for it fell apart. If you have any ideas, don't hesitate to share them at WT:HOCKEY. edit   Notes More editors are needed to help out with the newsletter. Maxim doesn't have an infinite nor perfect supply of ideas, and thus he might omit some interesting news. Portal:Ice hockey is being considered for featured status. Feel free to nominate features at Portal:Ice hockey/Suggestions. Should Chris Pronger have been suspended for more than eight games for stomping on Ryan Kesler? Vote here!

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[edit] Living hockey players

Just wanted to drop you a reminder to use the "Living people" category for any hockey players who are...well, still living, naturally :) --User:AlbertHerring ^{Io son l'orecchio e tu la bocca: parla!} 21:06, 16 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] An Invite to join Saskatchewan WikiProject

[edit] Additions to the Utah and Rhode Island college football venues tempates

Thank you for the links that you added to those templates. Gwguffey (talk) 01:32, 24 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] List of Sports Stadiums

I checked your sandbox. One suggestion is that we keep this list based on current values: current capacity and currently in use or not.

It could have happened that once in a particular match, there was a huge attendance beyond the capacity of the stadium, but that's basically a fault of organizers. They should not have allowed people more than they can accommodate safely. And its also a trivia that once so many people attended and only once so happened. Current capacity of the stadium looks like a better criteria for ranking. If you agree, you can drop the column for maximum capacity.

For the other point, currently in use for sports or not, for example Strahov Stadium is not used for sports anymore, its just a training ground for now and it may make way for other use in future. So, I would suggest moving it to the second table. Also, some stadiums can accommodate more people when the stadium is used for concerts. But, here we are considering only sports use. So, either max capacity or current capacity should not be considered if it is not for sports use.

Also, another point you may consider. Some users wrote in the discussion page about why states for US stadiums are not mentioned. I think it is better to add State/Province information in Location info, as far as possible, for all entries. If you need help for this, I can help.GDibyendu (talk) 09:46, 25 March 2008 (UTC)

Well, in present list also, there are Stadiums with less than 100,000 capacity - nothing wrong about keeping it that way. But, currently it does not have maximum capacity column now, so that's a change.

If you want to add it, then you should be also able to provide information whether the default max capacity was ever attained or not. And another logic is that: 'capacity' always means how many it can accommodate, not exactly how many were actually present on certain days. Also, for such a case, there will be difference in official and unofficial numbers and in some cases, you'll find that not all the people were able to reach the gallery and all. These type of info can be there in stadium-specific page, but list can avoid those details and stick to official capacity without bothering about whether it was ever full/over-crowded or not. BTW, I am personally not against the addition of the column, but it does not seem logical to me to rank the stadiums based on one day's crowd.

About State/Province info, for example, the largest stadium's location is actually Speedway, Indiana, USA. It's surrounded by Indianapolis city but it's a different town officially. If the state is not specified, then just mentioning Speedway, USA does not give clear picture about where exactly it lies. Current list mentions the location of this stadium as Indianapolis, USA (which is more well-known place).

Anyway, you can discuss these issues in the discussion page of the current wikipage also so that you can get more views on these.GDibyendu (talk) 06:39, 26 March 2008 (UTC)

Well Done, man. It's better that you have created a new page with clear cut definition of what it contains. Changing the old page could have caused edit wars or disagreement (in including racing tracks) etc. GDibyendu (talk) 13:56, 6 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Glaspalast (Ludwigsburg)

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[edit] Speedy deletion of König Palast

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[edit] Yea

Yea thats fine. Jwalte04 (talk) 23:42, 13 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Infobox

Hi, I saw some of the new NFL players articles you made and wanted to ask you if you could please use the Template:Infobox NFLretired, instead of the old one, the old one isnt being used anymore, thanks.--Yankees10 21:29, 1 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] WikiCookie

[edit] Hey man!

Hey man how have YOU been!

Good day?

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[edit] AfD nomination of Estadio de Beisbol Lic.Eduardo Vasconcelos

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[edit] WikiProject Sports facilities

Hi, Patken4. Thank you for joining WikiProject Sports facilities. As you can see, there is an attempt begin made to try and get the project back up to active status. Your contributions towards fleshing out the future of the project would be very much welcomed. Also, check out the project's talk page and give your thoughts on the proposal to merge/expand the project to a broader scope. Your opinion on the topic would be appreciated. --Gwguffey (talk) 20:07, 24 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Naming conventions

Hey. When creating baseball articles, make sure to follow the naming conventions at WP:NC-BASE. For example, your Ward Miller articles should've been created as Ward Miller (baseball). Keep up the good work. Wizardman 17:07, 25 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] thank you

		The Original Barnstar
		For taking on and completing the task of creating at least eleven articles I requested: Al Demaree, George Chalmers, Hugh McQuillan, Mule Watson, Virgil Barnes, Curly Ogden, Emil Yde, Monte Weaver, Ernie White, Sig Jakucki, and Gary Waslewski. Thanks! Kingturtle (talk) 16:12, 27 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Infobox

Can you please see Template:Infobox NFLretired#Parameters, because I saw some of the infoboxes you added to the new articles, and it doesnt seem that you know how it works, if you have any questions just ask, thanks--Yankees10 23:57, 28 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] New Carisbrook

Hi Patken - just to let you know that I've moved New Carisbrook to Awatea Street Stadium, the name by which the proposed stadium is better known here in Dunedin, also the name used most widely in the press. Grutness...wha? 00:29, 2 June 2008 (UTC)