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[edit] Please read before posting!
I don't always post a full rationale for everything I do, since doing this would take an inordinate amount of time. I do always have one, though, and will be happy to tell you why I did anything if you ask.
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[edit] Issaquah Middle School follow-up
Since you "urged" me to find independent sources stating the notability of Issaquah Middle School, I searched for more information on the school and the sources and information derived is as followed:
http://community.seattletimes.nwsource.com/schoolguide/profile.php?results=&building_id=3038&search= Statistics on the school compared to other schools in the region from the city paper The Seattle Times
http://www.metrokc.gov/dnrp/swd/greenschools/issaquah-school-district.asp King County website stating the improvments to the enviromental-friendly changes schools in the Issaquah School District which include Issaquah Middle School.
Thank you and I hope you reconsider your decision to delete the webpage.
[edit] Choron image
Thanks so much for answering my question about using an image from French wikipedia. Would you please add it to Wikipedia Commons for me (article is Alexandre Choron)? I tried and failed. Thanks, Bev bmwilcox —Preceding unsigned comment added by Bmwilcox (talk • contribs) 20:16, 28 May 2008 (UTC)
- Have you done this, Seraphim? Fleetflame 00:10, 4 June 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Edit Warring
Hello Seraphimblade. I am not edit waring. Just because someone says "Stop edit warring" in the edit summary doesn't mean I am edit waring. I have only made 1 revert Nagorno-Karabakh and 1 revert in Sheylanli and those are the only reverts I am aware of in the past week. Just because someone reverts my additions doesn't mean that you should tar me with the same brush. Please refactor your warning to my talk page. Thanks in advance Pocopocopocopoco (talk) 17:30, 1 June 2008 (UTC)
- Seraphim, only one of those links were revert:
- [1] is not a revert. It's adding new material and accuracy
- [2] is a revert because I was reverted without any discussion in talk.
- [3] is not a revert. I was removing a propaganda site and I was never aware that it had ever been removed before. This is a new edit.
- [4] I am adding tags that have never been added before. Not a revert.
- Each of the above edits were discussed in talk. I hope that this clarifies things and that you can remove my warning. Let me know if you need more information. Pocopocopocopoco (talk) 17:44, 1 June 2008 (UTC)
- Hello Seraphimblade. In addition to any Arbcom issues that are floating around, one of the editors has also violated 3RR in the conventional sense on Nagorno-Karabakh. Would you object if I followed through on that? Since the editor I have in mind is warring to put harsh POV language into the article, it is not hard to tell which side needs more scrutiny. I recognize that P.'s method of counting reverts needs improvement. EdJohnston (talk) 18:21, 1 June 2008 (UTC)
(unindent)Edjohnston, respectfully I disagree with your comment that my method for counting reverts needs improvement. As per the 3RR reports, a revert reverts to a prior version. Only one of my edits were reverting to a prior version of the article. If the standard of what constitutes a revert that is being applied to me was applied to all edits than every edit in wikipedia that was just a straight addition of information would be considered a revert. Pocopocopocopoco (talk) 20:16, 1 June 2008 (UTC)
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- Seraphimblade, the first and third edits are not reverts either. The first edit was a rewrite and improvement on the paragraph where additional information was added. It is not a revert, I was not reverting to a prior version. The third edit was not a revert either. I was removing a source that was a propaganda site and I am allowed to do this per WP:RS. There was no prior version of the article that I am aware of that I reverted to. If you require more information please let me know, otherwise please remove my warning. Thanks in advance Pocopocopocopoco (talk) 20:10, 1 June 2008 (UTC)
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You may wish to comment on my appeal Pocopocopocopoco (talk) 21:00, 1 June 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Yogi scam
Hi Seraphimblade-
Thank you so much for responding to my concern on editor assistance Harbhajan Singh Yogi. This man was a genius of self promotion and spiritual fabrication. The closest thing I can compare it to is Joseph Smith, he just constructed this whole cosmology out of his imagination and put himself in the center as a Guru and people are still promoting him even though he's been dead for a few years. There are many tragic casualties from all of this and young people are still joining this organization. A listing on Wikipedia is a serious endorsement of a charade in my opinion. As this involves religious beliefs, there are almost no neutral parties but I feel what the law enforcement authorities had to say from their investigations bears the most credibility and should at least be referred to in his bio. Hue Hue many (talk) 18:08, 1 June 2008 (UTC)
This site contains a host of material concerning lawsuits and alleged criminal activity. I'm assuming it was constructed by former cult members. I also reviewed the section under notability and it says when someone is in a specialized field that reviews from others in a similar field are encouraged. In this case, high ranking members of the traditional Sikh community are mostly appalled by Bhajan's history and excessive claims of religious authority. Experts in the history and philosophy of yoga have been very skeptical of his claims. Experts on the fields of cults are pretty much unanimous that this is a cult. Hue many (talk) 18:31, 1 June 2008 (UTC)Hue http://yogibhajan.tripod.com/id23.html —Preceding unsigned comment added by Hue many (talk • contribs)
OK well damn near everything on the Harbhajan site is material from the cult itself that they published. The Beads of Truth was their magazine. "The Man called The Siri Singh Sahib" was their book. These reference number on their page are all from their own publications 2, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 11, 13, 14, 15, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 32, 34, 37, 40. I didn't check the others.Hue many (talk) 19:17, 1 June 2008 (UTC) Hue
[edit] Can you please offer some advice?
Hi, I haven't contacted you before but in a way that's good because I need some neutral advice so I picked you at random from the admins editing WP:ANI/3RR. I am having some major issues with User:Kaiwhakahaere, and I have no idea what to do about this guy. From my perspective he is in breach of WP:AGF and WP:CIVIL; a small problem regarding references at Miss Universe 2008 has escalated into a larger pattern of derogatory comments towards me. Before I blow a gasket (which I have been known to do), I just wanted to run this by an independent person to see if anything can be done. A bit of background: Kaiwhakahaere (talk · contribs) used to be an editor I respected as one of the few who seemed to have any real understanding of Wikipedia's policies in the craziness that has been going on at Miss Universe 2008. I myself have devoted a lot of time to tidying this article and I've being stubborn at keeping non-reliable sources out of the article because there have been accuracy issues in the past. Until the past week, I always thought Kaiwhakahaere was an excellent editor... then the mess began. What I'm talking about: his comments in this whole discussion, this unnecessary comment, certain of his edit summaries for "Miss Universe 2008" [5], and this discussion. Could you possibly look this over and advise if anything can be done? He clearly seems to be violating AGF & CIVIL but I have no idea what to do next. PageantUpdater talk • contribs 22:26, 1 June 2008 (UTC)
[edit] DO NOT IGNORE THIS COMMENT !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
What did you do to my Ellifain Article? It is not there! Tell me what you did and why!! Click on the name of my article and see what happens!!!! Do it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[edit] Ding!
I sent you email. =) -- Gogo Dodo (talk) 05:16, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Rewrite of section 4
Things have evolved quite a bit since you last voted. Could you please update your votes on all four boxes since they are not representative of the current situation anymore? We nearly have consensus on most of everything and you are one of the few remaining people with an opposition vote for the purple box. If you don't want to get involved anymore, just say so, and we'll disregard your old votes.
Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style (dates and numbers)
Thanks. Headbomb (ταλκ · κοντριβς) 05:36, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
[edit] SlimVirgin and the abuse of 'Wikipower'
Howdy Seraphimblade, I am taking up your offer to look into Wikimatters and advise.
I recently edited a page that is plainly 'advertising' for one minor would-be celebrity writer, a Julian Baggini. It is a page posted orignally by 'SlimVirgin', an adminstrator. My interesting exercise in reviewing Baginnis writing career, using representative quotes of his writing (sourced correctly) and offering some third party views from reputable sources such as the books reviewer of the Observer newspaper in London, were deleted wholesale by SlimV who justified this as they were 'negative' about a living person. If a contemprary writer cannot have their work critiqued on Wikipedia, we have a very funny sort of encylopedia.
Baggini is not very important. Yet Slim has edited many thousands of pages, and often it seems with the same indifference to the values of Wikipedia. ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Requests_for_arbitration/C68-FM-SV/Workshop#SlimVirgin)
Now I see your page and I think you are someone who does share them, so here you are, please advise!
I set out the details on the talk page, as 'who should judge this' here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Julian_Baggini
However, I think the crucial thing is to stop SlimV from further misuse and misappropriation of Wikipowers!
Wikigiraffes (talk) 19:35, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Follow Up on Deleted Artist Pages
While I realize some mistakes were made on the pages that were deleted (Marc Trujillo, Ann Gale) due to inexperience, I do sicerely believe that these artists and their work warrant recognition on Wikipedia and simple edits could have been made in place of deletion. I now have a better understanding of the guidelines for external links and would like to note that the links were not posted for promotional purposes but because they provided comprehensive articles on the work and the individual artists. The black-listing of the link does not concern me, but I would like to replace the deleted pages and edit them according to the Wikipedia guidelines. You mentioned that the relisting of these artists could result in a blocking of my username, I would like to take all measures to avoid this. Please let me know how this situation can be remedied.
RMunsell (talk) 19:57, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
[edit] logging
I've logged your earlier addition. see overview. ;)--Hu12 (talk) 20:32, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
[edit] following up, again
Hi there, I would very much appreciate your help in creating neutral entries for these artists. Where do we start? Here are a few references for Marc Trujillo:
Please, let me know what the next step is.
Thanks! RMunsell (talk) 18:24, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
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[edit] Up to speed
For what it's worth, it might help you to understand that this discussion is a spillover from a dispute over the proposed guideline at WP:FICT. The end result of that discussion was one side saying that WP:FICT has to be be based on WP:NOTE, and the other side saying that WP:NOTE sucks too. You should understand that a good part of the community wants to contest WP:NOTE. Randomran (talk) 06:28, 10 June 2008 (UTC)
- That's a good idea, although I'm a latecomer to this debate, and I'm not well versed in the deep history around this guideline. I might advise you to do it. Or if you'd rather minimize your involvement, I'd easily take a suggestion as to the best place/way to link the discussion. (It's pretty late and I've been working on professional research all day. Not thinking very well.) Randomran (talk) 06:49, 10 June 2008 (UTC)
