User talk:Gadfium

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Contents 1 Re: Python script 2 Re: New Zealand 3 Keyra 4 Redlinks on categories 5 Gawks 6 Taranaki map 7 EdibleKittens block 8 You added iw link in New Zealand -- the English page & an image in My Page 9 Barnstar 10 List of schools in Northland, New Zealand

[edit] Re: Python script

Sorry for taking so long to reply. Thanks for sending me the code. It certainly looks interesting although I don't know any computer languages so I think it's going to be hard for me to figure out. I do have one list in my sandbox that it would be good to use on. At the moment the table is very "busy", so if I wanted to remove the former affiliations and callsigns columns, how would I do this? And also in 2009 when the US switches off its analog signal, the analog columns will need to be removed, so how would this be achieved? Best regards, Matthewedwards (talk · contribs · count · email) 05:07, 1 June 2008 (UTC)

The script doesn't work with tables where each cell is on a separate line, so it isn't going to work with what's in your sandbox. Probably, someone has a more generic table editing tool, so you could ask at Wikipedia talk:Tools. I don't know if User:Cacycle/wikEd can delete table columns; the tool is available as a gadget through Special:Preferences. However, your table is fairly small, so changing it by hand is relatively easy.-gadfium 05:22, 1 June 2008 (UTC)

OK, well thanks anyway. Matthewedwards (talk · contribs · count · email) 23:51, 1 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Re: New Zealand

Since when the 'Football' argument rose and basically destroid the 'soccer' argument I started getting ignmored. I have full right to change it. Why should 3 or 4 people get the final say when there argument has lost? CipherPixel (talk) 06:00, 1 June 2008 (UTC)

You seem to be the only editor who believes you won that argument. I suggest you move on.-gadfium 06:06, 1 June 2008 (UTC)

This is also not true and also you guys just ignore the points which kills yours? CipherPixel (talk) 06:10, 1 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Keyra

Hi Gadfium I have posted on WP:ANI about the above article. I thought I'd let you know as you are the admin who deleted it. --Doctor Bojangles (talk) 02:07, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Redlinks on categories

My explanations: Redlinks on categories are useful because they establish a pre-creation parent/daughter relationship between categories that editors who create categories don't always create — I know this, because I patrol new categories and set up scores of category relationships that should exist but don't. But whatever, if they make you uncomfortable for some reason, have it your way. Ditto on the {catmore}; I don't see it's use in the way I used it as a big deal and it's generally easier than writing a sentence, especially when it's obvious it's a category for people from somewhere, the only question being where the somewhere is, where a quick link can provide the answer, rather than writing out the pedantic "This category is for people from ...". But again, whatever can displace your discomfort ... Good Ol’factory ^(talk) 03:31, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Gawks

I dont know if i can relate to the above at all - however thanks for your tip re the way to go with cat tagging - cheers SatuSuro 04:45, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

I can see no code in {{WPNZ}} to handle cat-class articles, nor does there appear to be a category for them.-gadfium 04:56, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for checking, I tend not to go into those dark mysterious places - they might jump out at me :) SatuSuro 05:37, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Taranaki map

Done :) Grutness...wha? 07:06, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] EdibleKittens block

Thanks for letting me know. — ERcheck (talk) 23:16, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] You added iw link in New Zealand -- the English page
& an image in My Page

Merci !!             Carka Bruni 09:50, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Barnstar

		The New Zealand Barnstar of National Merit
		For patrolling and adminship of New Zealand articles, creation of many small town articles, and addition of the history of NZ newspaper publishing to the NZ chronology series.
		this WikiAward was given to Gadfium by dramatic (talk) on 09:33, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

dramatic (talk) 09:33, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

Thanks. The history of NZ newspapers is just something I do when I only have a few minutes of spare time to add something; the small towns usually require a larger block of time. When I finish the newspapers I'll do something else to fill out the chronology series.-gadfium 09:38, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] List of schools in Northland, New Zealand

Kia ora. I have managed to have a good look at your article and noted that you have asked it to be reviewed as a Feature article. I didnt feel comfortable leaving my comments there. I would like to make the following suggestions. The Bold is from the article with my commentary following.

numerous small rural primary schools, some small town primary and secondary schools, and a small number of city schools I think the words numerous small rural, small town primary, small number are to vague. I was reading how to make an article a feature article earlier today and an article mentioned similar words you are using to avoid. I cant recall the article. I am still trying to think about how you could re-word it. I appreciate the difficulty you have when trying to summarise them geographically. I think you could organise the schools size based on ERO reserach that has been done. Small school anything under 50 students etc

A state integrated school is a state school with a special character based on a religious or philosophical belief. I think that this is ambigous, your definition of a state integrated school implies that Kura Kaupapa Maori are intergrated which they are not. A school becomes intergrated when it is designated as a state school xxxxxx. Over the years I have worked in education, I have often herd Kura Kaupapa Maori being cited as an integrated school. I think but cant be sure, integrated schools are established in accordance with Education Act 1964 No 135 (as at 03 September 2007), Public Act section 98 (1)(b). Here is the web link

http://www.legislation.govt.nz/act/public/1964/0135/latest/DLM358141.html?search=ts_act_Private+Schools+Conditional

In New Zealand schools, Year 1 is the first year of formal education. Students normally enter the education system at 5 years old. Year 13 is the final year of secondary education. Years 14 and 15 refer to adult education facilities. The word normally is too ambigous. Does it mean that some can start when they are 4? Or when they rurn 7 when a parent thinks that there child is ready. The law clearly states, all children can only be enrolled once they turn 5 years old and can must be enrolled on their 6 birthday. I think. I am sure you can citate this somewhere.

Te Kete Ipurangi website page for each school; it can also be viewed using the "ERO report" link for each school on that website. website page implies that each school has a website page on TKI, when in fact what is on TKI is merely a profile summary of that school. I dont understand viewed using the "ERO report link" Do you mean? ERO reports of schools can be accessed by their TKI school profile?

Decile ratings are reassessed each year. I do not believe this to be true. Decile ratings are based on data collected by the MOE when census data is availble. The last census completed in NZ was in 2006. here is a citation for your consideration.
http://www.minedu.govt.nz/index.cfm?layout=document&documentid=7697&indexid=11565&indexparentid=3963

The rolls given here are those provided by the Ministry of Education Te Kete Ipurangi website in January each year.
When I looked more closely at the TKI site I noticed that they referenced school roll numbers to 1 July 2007. There are two schools roll dates used to calcuate funding and staffing numbers. 1 March and 1 July. Here is the citation for you reference. see data box 5

http://www.tki.org.nz/e/schools/index.php

Te Kura Kaupapa Maori o Te Tonga o Hokianga" means "The Kaupapa Maori School of South Hokianga
I find it interesting that you only translate part of the school name. i am about to embark on a journey of discovery of non english terms on wikipedia so that I may understand it. I guess I am going to have the same problem with the kura kaupapa maori article.

I will think about your list over the next dew days. and give you feedback if anything comes to mind. btw. i rearely use TKI as a citation, because i find that their information can be misleading, based on wrong assumption etc. Nothing there is cited and editor opinions are bias and sometimes get in the way with facts and fiction. Maybe that was a little too harsh.

I hope that you find my feedback of use. Regards Funauckland (talk) 08:07, 8 June 2008 (UTC)

Thanks, that's useful feedback. I'll sleep on it and consider what changes I should make in the morning.-gadfium 08:38, 8 June 2008 (UTC)

I have implemented many of the changes you suggest. I didn't change the very first paragraph much, because that's supposed to provide an overall summary of the topic and I think a little vagueness is acceptable. Would it be better if I said "There are x rural primary schools with a roll under 100; and y with a roll over 100", and then made similar statements for urban primary schools, and secondary schools? I don't think so, because I'd then have to explain the difference between rural and urban, and justify why I chose 100 as my cut off figure. I have dropped the word "small" as not all rural primary schools are small (by New Zealand standards).

I didn't translate "Kaupapa Maori" because I don't think there is a simple English translation of the phrase. The translations were supplied to me by Kahuroa.-gadfium 23:48, 8 June 2008 (UTC)