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[edit] Bribie Island

I'm restoring the external link to Bribie RSL club, as it is not a commercial enterprise. I don't know if you have the RSL (Returned and Services League)in NZ but it consists of a large number of local branches, most of which run a community social club. Unlike say a pub or casino the clubs 'profits' are all returned to the community, quite often in the form of low-rent retirement homes for war veterans and the local community in general. Cheers.--MichaelGG (talk) 06:22, 1 May 2008 (UTC)

My edit summary was a bit too general; I removed a commercial link, and I also removed the RSL link. No offence intended and I'll try to be more careful in the future. However, I don't believe that we should be linking to local organisations because we are not a web directory. Instead, we should link to the appropriate page at Open Directory Project, where local organisations can add themselves. I don't have Bribie Island on my watchlist, and if you disagree with me and readd the link I don't intend to remove it again.-gadfium 08:34, 1 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Population density map

I've added a key on the image description page. (But not to the article itself, since there are thirteen different shades and people are unlikely to be able to distinguish them all without clicking on the image anyway.) -- Vardion (talk) 06:28, 3 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] New Project

Myself and several other editors have been compiling a list of very active editors who would likely be available to help new editors in the event they have questions or concerns. As the list grew and the table became more detailed, it was determined that the best way to complete the table was to ask each potential candidate to fill in their own information, if they so desire. This list is sorted geographically in order to provide a better estimate as to whether the listed editor is likely to be active.

If you consider yourself a very active Wikipedian who is willing to help newcomers, please either complete your information in the table or add your entry. If you do not want to be on the list, either remove your name or just disregard this message and your entry will be removed within 48 hours. The table can be found at User:Useight/Highly Active, as it has yet to have been moved into the Wikipedia namespace. Thank you for your help. Useight (talk) 17:23, 3 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Portal:New Zealand/Did you know

Ok, I have gotten 10 DYK's for Portal:New Zealand/Did you know. Are you gunna help . . . Am almost at 26 sets. Can we collectively (NZ Wikipedians) come up with four enrtries every week to keep ahead? I have run out of ideas for good ones. -- Alan Liefting (talk) - 04:14, 6 May 2008 (UTC)


[edit] Waka (canoe)

I have just edited this as I see my old friend Sessoss had added some dubious stuff. Added some material where the Māori words he said have never been recorded actually appear and have been available to read since the first edition of Grey in 1854 or so. Seems he thinks I am affiliated with canoe manufacturers - LOL. Kahuroa (talk) 06:09, 6 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Maps

Hi Gadfium - I'll mape some more maps, but it may be a few days before I get round to it ("it won't happen olvernight, but it will happen"). As to the schools maps, I think the idea of a separate Whangarei map is a good one, though it could also do with a NZ inset map, similar to the one on the Northland map. I'll have a go at that as well. If you don't see anything in a week, remind me :) Grutness...wha? 00:27, 7 May 2008 (UTC)

Ok - thanks for that. The Northland map looks good (and no, I hadn't started working on one yet!). Grutness...wha? 02:27, 9 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Etymology of Liminality

Hi Gadfium, I would like some advice before entering into an edit war. I recently justified a deletion of the word "latin" in the definition of liminality here. According to the OED, the word limen was first used in 1884 in a psychological sense from the german word schwelle, which means threshold. Of course the latin meaning of the english word limen also means threshold, but the OED does not say this. I believe to convey the best context of the word liminality, we should delete the word "latin" to point to its existing english origins. This is a small, but worthwhile distinction. It is a difficult point to make without much to back itup. What should I do? —Fred114 09:30, 10 May 2008 (UTC)

One option is to ask for a third opinion at WP:3O. You might also ask for an opinion at a talk page which is highly relevant to the article, but I am not sure what a suitable talk page might be: perhaps Talk:Latin. If you have previously corresponded with one of the users in Category:User la-N, you could ask them to comment. In any case, you need to be careful with the wording of your request, since you are not asking someone to support your opinion, but to contribute their expertise to the debate.-gadfium 09:44, 10 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Barnstar

The Original Barnstar
For all your hard and tedious work towards Wikipedia! Im surprised you don't already have one for May, you deserve a hundred more Matt (talk) 10:38, 10 May 2008 (UTC)
Thank you.-gadfium 19:00, 10 May 2008 (UTC)


[edit] Wikihol

I'm out of town till Wednesday or so, would you mind keeping an eye on mi for us? Well deserved on the Barnstar btw. Kahuroa (talk) 20:32, 10 May 2008 (UTC)

Sure.-gadfium 20:33, 10 May 2008 (UTC)
Many thanks. A couple of days late, but back. Kahuroa (talk)

[edit] userbox

How do I create my own userbox?Maolain (talk) 00:53, 11 May 2008 (UTC)

I'm the wrong person to ask. I don't use them.-gadfium 01:27, 11 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Maori King

I have just sent an email to a site which has an abundance of information of the Maori King Movement, to see if they know which of the King's children are male and female. I already know that the Maori have Princes and Princesses, but I asked just in case. Rbkl (talk) 17:17, 11 May 2008 (UTC)

I asked an Advisor for the Ministry of Culture and Heritage for New Zealand, and gave me the correct names and sexes of the current Maori King's children. He also said that as far as the Ministry is concerned, the descendants of the Maori King's still use the title of Prince and Princess. I hope this was helpful. If you need to see the email, please just let me know and give me your email address and I will forward it to you.

Sincerely,

Paramount Chief Richard II of the Antinanco Metis Nation

(Rbkl (talk) 04:21, 12 May 2008 (UTC))

An email isn't a sufficient source. If no one has published this information in a reliable source, then it shouldn't be on Wikipedia.-gadfium 20:21, 12 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Dunedin assessment

Hi Gadfium, I feel the "Start" assessment for Dunedin differs too much with the assessment guidelines. For "B" the guideline is "most or all Start criteria" but has issues such as "missing references". The article has all the "Start" criteria, and is clearly a "B" according to the guidelines. There are 18 books listed in the references, so it is not so much missing references as inline citations. If this is where the bar is set, most of Category:B-Class_New_Zealand_articles will need to be demoted, 1981 Springbok Tour, Frederick Weld, ACT New Zealand, History of Air New Zealand, all have similar or less references, basically empty the category. Please reconsider? XLerate (talk) 10:35, 13 May 2008 (UTC)

I've copied this to Talk:Dunedin and replied there.-gadfium 19:31, 13 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Operación Masacre

[edit] Deletion review for Operación Masacre

An editor has asked for a deletion review of Operación Masacre. Since you closed the deletion discussion for this article, speedy-deleted it, or were otherwise interested in the article, you might want to participate in the deletion review. was added to the deletion review log. Neagley (talk) 17:46, 14 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Taylor Street Jousters

Hello sir, I stumbled upon the Jousters article and found it in utter ruin. I am very suprised the article got under wiki radar but it did. I did some research, and tryed to clean up the article best I could in what time I had. I would like to request that you take a look at the article, or do anything at all to improve it. I was able to obtain legal non copywritten photographs of Jouster stuff that would be good for the article, but I'm not sure how to put it in. Any help would be great! --Lucius Sempronius Turpio (talk) 21:05, 16 May 2008 (UTC)

You are probably best asking at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Chicago where you'll find people with local knowledge. I'm on the other side of the world, and I realise that you're not local either. For help with uploading and placing an image in the article, see Help:Images and other uploaded files.-gadfium 00:16, 17 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] WP:HAU/OC

Hello . The Highly Active Users project has gone through a complete revamping per popular demand. We believe this new format will make it easier for new editors to find assistance. However, with the new format, I must again ask you to verify your information on this page. With the extensive changes, I may have made some errors. Thanks again. bibliomaniac15 01:50, 17 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Marlborough map

Hi Gadfium - hope this does the trick! Grutness...wha? 00:11, 18 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Waikawa, Southland

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CorenSearchBot is in error. The article is a legitimate split from Waikawa, which covered two different localities with the same name. The origin was given in the edit summary when the article was created.-gadfium 02:57, 18 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Location map templates

Hi Gadfium - I like the look of the new Marlborough maps you're doing. One thing - I see that the location map template feeds straight into Cat:Location map by country templates. Do you think it's about time for a separate sub category Cat:New Zealand location map templates? Grutness...wha? 01:58, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

Good idea. I've created and populated it.-gadfium 04:40, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Template:New Zealand topics

Hi. Sorry about the incomplete edit. It was an oversight I missed as no wrapping happened to occur on the screen I was using at the time. Unfortunately, I'm only human. Have now completed the edit. Sardanaphalus (talk) 20:18, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

PS This may be of interest.

[edit] Barnstar

The New Zealand Barnstar of National Merit
In my short time as a Wikipedia contributor I have not met a Wikipedian as gallant and professional as you, we may not see eye-to-eye on some issues but I respect the work you have done on the New Zealand, Auckland and Wellington articles, and countless others relating to New Zealand, so it is my pleasure to award you this barnstar. Well done. Taifarious1 06:49, 21 May 2008 (UTC)


Thanks. It's particularly nice to get a barnstar from someone I've had run-ins with in the past. I appreciate the work you've been doing here too.-gadfium 06:54, 21 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Taumatawhakatangihangakoauauotamateapokaiwhenuakitanatahu

Kia ora Gadfium. (Nice to see Taifarious1 doing so well btw). Re the placename - I have found a book on Google books here which looks like a verifiable source with 105 letters. Just wanted your input on how to handle the body-part mention - Polynesian languages didn't have the concept of 'rude parts of the body' - but English does. Don't want to provoke vandals or cause offence or anything Kahuroa (talk) 22:11, 21 May 2008 (UTC)

I don't see a problem, so long as you use an appropriate translation with formal English rather than slang. Cf Te Urewera. The article is already frequently vandalised, but is also on a number of people's watchlists. It might be worthwhile adding it to WP:MVP if the vandalism levels increase.-gadfium 22:45, 21 May 2008 (UTC)


[edit] Disputed fair use rationale for Image:BillBirch.gif}

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Not worth fighting. The image had a fair use rationale.-gadfium 05:18, 22 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Whoops

Hello again, im sorry about the edit I made to the lead section of the NZ article. I wasnt actually aware there was a 'List of New Zealand's international rankings' art. my mistake, I really should research these things before editing. sorry again Taifarious1 08:43, 22 May 2008 (UTC)

Not a problem. It used to be part of the NZ article, but was split off to keep the main article down to a reasonable size.-gadfium 08:50, 22 May 2008 (UTC)
Yeah I figured that, i think its a good idea btw (hence the reason i proposed to merge the geo and climate sections) Taifarious1 08:53, 22 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Yeast images

I'm not sure if it's just my computer (but other images seem to be working fine), but the images you created for the Killer yeasts page are showing up as having errors: "The image “http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/5a/K1_preprotoxin.jpg” cannot be displayed, because it contains errors." Schu1321 (talk) 02:39, 24 May 2008 (UTC)

I can see the image fine on Commons, using Swiftfox 3.0 pre-3 on Linux. I can also see them fine using Konqueror, or using Firefox 3 beta 4. The last of these browsers has never displayed the images before, so it probably isn't simply cached on my side. I just asked someone else to try, and they can't see it using Firefox 2.x on Windows XP. I'm not a graphic expert, and have no idea why images would display on one operating system and not on another. The images were originally drawn using Krita and saved as TIFFs, then converted to JPG by Krita for uploading. I'll ask about this at Commons:Village pump.-gadfium 02:54, 24 May 2008 (UTC)
It looks like they just had an error in conversion of some sort. I have them re-exported into new jpeg files if you want them. Just let me know how to get them to you. Schu1321 (talk) 03:09, 24 May 2008 (UTC)
I've reuploaded them after converting them using GIMP instead of Krita, and they now work on the Windows box I have access to. Please let me know whether they now work for you.
I'd appreciate more detail on the copy editing needed for the Killer yeasts article. I know it's fairly technical. Does it also need grammar, spelling, style etc fixes?-gadfium 05:54, 24 May 2008 (UTC)
Mostly grammar and style, I can work on it in a bit as well. Schu1321 (talk) 06:47, 24 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] YWAM Oak Ridge New Zealand

Hiya - could you take a look at this please? Previous version was speedied as spam, but would probably also fail criteria A7 (no refs and one of 1100 missions of a possibly notable organisation). Do you want to re-speedy or put it to AFD? (Sometimes I think users get the message better if lots of people are saying their article isn't worthy). Cheers, dramatic (talk) 22:15, 27 May 2008 (UTC)

Clearly fails A7, so I've deleted it and warned the creator. If it's recreated again, I'll salt it.-gadfium 22:45, 27 May 2008 (UTC)

Can you explain to me how I can rewrite the article in such a way it won't be removed all the time? YWAM Oak Ridge is a non-profit organization that does a lot of good for the local community. The place has got a lot of history and is well known in the area. Dvandekamp (talk) 09:05, 29 May 2008 (UTC)

Read Wikipedia:Notability (organizations and companies), and if you think it can meet the standards, then go to Wikipedia:Deletion review and argue your case.-gadfium 09:12, 29 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Gong

Cheers for all the work you've been doing on mi:. The articles might be small, but they're well formed and a nice addition to the site. I'm not really one for doling out barnstars, but your work is appreciated, as is your practical and low-key approach to stuff. Cheers and kia ora. Kahuroa (talk) 01:07, 28 May 2008 (UTC)

Thanks.-gadfium 01:26, 28 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Problematic image

Hello there. Would you be able to delete Image:Bjørn Lomborg small.JPG for me? It's just a lower res version of a copy of a file on Commons, but the bot doesn't seem to understand this. Richard001 (talk) 06:12, 30 May 2008 (UTC)

You should ask an admin with more experience of resolving image issues. What you ask seems reasonable to me but it isn't my area of expertise.-gadfium 06:17, 30 May 2008 (UTC)
Any recommendations? Nobody comes to mind, and I don't know of any index of such admins. Maybe it will still get deleted anyway despite the bot? Richard001 (talk) 05:24, 31 May 2008 (UTC)
Wikipedia:Media copyright questions would be the place to ask, or just nominate it for WP:IFD.-gadfium 05:30, 31 May 2008 (UTC)