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Contents 1 Robert Lawson (architect) 2 Self-assessment 3 Rollback 4 WP:AUK 5 DYK 6 Thank you for your help at Wikipedia's Village Pump 7 Te Kopuru 8 Pre-Columbian cultures 9 Location Map - Houhora 10 Northland map 11 New Zealand Department of Child, Youth and Family Services 12 Cookie Bear (New Zealand) 13 Rollbacks and vandalism 14 New Zealand 15 Three Gorges Dam merge opinion wanted 16 Pavlova (Food) Article reverting 17 Demographics of Tokelau 18 Thank you! 19 Philobrya meleagrina

[edit] Robert Lawson (architect)

Hi Gadfium. You mentioned on the review for this article that you're able to look at Mane-Wheoki (1992). (Thx for checking the library!) Is there any way to get an electronic copy of it and pass it to me? I'd like to keep this one and I think that paper is needed to do it. Marskell (talk) 19:52, 4 March 2008 (UTC)

I am not aware of any electronic version of this paper. I should be able to scan it at the library tomorrow (if not, I can photocopy it there and then scan it at home). I can then forward the scan (probably as a bitmap rather than OCR) to you, but only on condition that you do not make it publicly available on the web out of respect for the copyright of the original author/journal.-gadfium 22:04, 4 March 2008 (UTC)

Great! I've sent you an e-mail. Marskell (talk) 18:22, 5 March 2008 (UTC)

		The Random Acts of Kindness Barnstar
		For going out of your way to track down a reference and help with an article in need, please accept this barnstar. Thank you! Marskell (talk) 07:07, 9 March 2008 (UTC)

Thanks.-gadfium 07:37, 9 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Self-assessment

Hi Gadfium. This seems to have got a life of its own. I've never actually assessed any article - what happened was I copied the talk page tags of a recent similar article of mine & pasted it to a new article, overlooking that someone had already assessed it. Mea culpa. Cheers. GrahamBould (talk) 07:27, 9 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Rollback

Sure, it looks useful. I've just been using the 'undo' function, which is fine most of the time, just not if they've made multiple crap edits. --Helenalex (talk) 07:59, 10 March 2008 (UTC)

Thanks. --Helenalex (talk) 08:05, 10 March 2008 (UTC)

replied to your message on my talk page, in short: yes! thanks :) Mathmo ^Talk 08:12, 10 March 2008 (UTC)

thanks again :) Mathmo ^Talk 08:15, 10 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] WP:AUK

This is an invitation to WikiProject Auckland, a WikiProject which aims to develop and expand Wikipedia's articles on Auckland. Please feel free to join us.

Taifarious1 09:28, 10 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] DYK

On 11 March 2008, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Pouto Peninsula, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

Congrats. --Gatoclass (talk) 09:23, 11 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Thank you for your help at Wikipedia's Village Pump

Thank you for your help, in helping me to find the "Did you know" on Frederick Madison Allen. Thanks to your guidance at Wikipedia: Village Pump, I managed to find the "did you know" entry on Allen - I saw quite a few other interested "Did you know" facts listed there, too! I see that you have had compliments for having had one of your contributions in the "Did you know" section(see previous entry). It is always good to find that our hard work in editing Wikipedia has been rewarded with our efforts resulting in articles which we have created or edited being featured in "Did you know"! Very best wishes, and thank you again for your help. ACEOREVIVED (talk) 20:17, 14 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Te Kopuru

On 15 March 2008, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Te Kopuru, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

--BorgQueen (talk) 10:34, 15 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Pre-Columbian cultures

Hello I am new to wikipedia the quotes i made are verifiable. Charles Mann's book "1491" and the talks I do on the lecture circuits have indicated a higher number of mortalities then you have on the site. The accepted percentage of deaths in 150 years ( from first contact is 90-95%. This is the total population in North and South America.

A little about myself- I have a Masters in EDU major American History at the secondary level. I am 3/4 Native American and have been gving lectures for over 30 years .These lectures are at schools, universities, teachers of History, The Department of Army Race Relations, Museums, as well as the National Audabon Society. I have kept a record and have an extensive portfolio of letters from these places of thanks for my lectures.

I have been in many news paper articles for my lectures, and living history regalia and camping. Also appeared on GPTV with James Billy the ex-chief of the Seminoles, Okefanokee Joe and other native peoples.

I thank you for your time I just would like to see the time period of the Temple Mound Culture covered more to include more recent archeaological evidance. I have an extensive libarary of books on many different sites whichhave been excivated.

Again thank you. Yahuli —Preceding unsigned comment added by Yahuli (talk • contribs) 21:53, 15 March 2008 (UTC)

I reverted your edits because the link you added to several articles was about a modern culture which is inspired by pre-Columbian ones, and that is not relevant to those earlier cultures. If there are sub-pages of that site which are more relevant, please link to them directly.-gadfium 22:13, 15 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Location Map - Houhora

Hi, your Northland location map demo on Houhora would be a lot more convicing if the map wasn't captioned Te Kopuru (which isn't mentioned anywhere in the article) ;-) I have assumed that was a cutnpaste error and corrected it. dramatic (talk) 07:04, 16 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Northland map

Hi Gadfium - I've uploaded a possible map at Image:NZ-Northland_plain_map2.png. It's not that dissimilar from the one you made, which was pretty good, i thought. I've put a line around the NZ map to separate it off and fiddled with the colours a little to make that map stand out more (the grey on blue wasn't very helpful). I've also removed the region lines from the smaller map - at that scale they just get in the way IMO. Hope my alterations are improvements enough! Grutness...wha? 23:01, 16 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] New Zealand Department of Child, Youth and Family Services

Gday Gadfium,

I recently ran into the New Zealand Department of Child, Youth and Family Services page and noticed that half of the links in the references section link to hate forums, victim support forums, and discussion forums. I am not sure what wikipedia's policy is on these, but am unconvinced of their value, and have little doubt that those who put them there are a mixed bunch and some would enjoy an edit war. I don't know what is the most sensible way to prgress with this. I have seen your name editing many New Zealand pages, so thought you might be a good person to assess the situation.

Cheers Matt (talk) 23:16, 16 March 2008 (UTC)

I've added it to my watchlist.-gadfium 03:44, 17 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Cookie Bear (New Zealand)

Thanks for rating the article I started for Wikiproject New Zealand. But Cookie Bear (New Zealand) is a low-importance article, while Thingee is rated mid-importance? My goodness, what social amnesia exists amongst the young folk of today. Vegetationlife (talk) 18:05, 18 March 2008 (UTC)

The rating of articles isn't entirely consistent. The scale is given at Wikipedia:WikiProject New Zealand/Assessment#Importance scale but each editor has their own interpretations. I rate an article as "low importance" if I don't think any "normal" encyclopedia would cover it, even one which specialises in the subject. I would have rated Thingee similarly to Cookie Bear, but I don't feel strongly enough about it to change the rating (I would do if someone had rated it at high or top importance). However, anyone can change the rating of articles, so you can feel free to do so. If you're really keen, add a discussion at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject New Zealand/Assessment of how the guidelines should affect New Zealand cultural items, as I did a while ago for towns, and after a pause of a few days for people to reply, go through the talk pages of the articles in Category:New Zealand culture and apply suitable rating tags to them.-gadfium 18:26, 18 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Rollbacks and vandalism

Hi Gadfium, sorry I didn't get back to you sooner. Yes having Rollback would be great. Also, how do we go about tagging an IP address for vandalism of an article? Someone keeps removing certain paragraphs from John Kirk (New Zealand politician) and The Republic of New Zealand Party. --Lholden (talk) 19:16, 18 March 2008 (UTC)

Rollback granted. The standard is to warn the IP on the first few occasions, using the templates in WP:UTM. {{uw-delete1}} would be the most appropriate here. If you have issued at least three warnings including one of the ones mentioning a block will result, then report the next offence to WP:AIV. However, in this case the vandal is on a dynamic IP address, so the two options are to hope they get bored, or semi-protect the article. If it continues for more than another day, drop me another line and I'll do the semi-protection, or request it at WP:RFPP. The material being removed from John Kirk should really be referenced though; I think finding a ref for the last paragraph is of much higher priority than protecting the page. I recall the incident, otherwise I'd remove the para myself.-gadfium 19:28, 18 March 2008 (UTC)

Another approach is to add the articles to WP:WNZV, which acts as my public watchlist (and maybe gets patrolled by other people too). For these articles, it wouldn't be suitable, but WP:MVP is the broader equivalent of this (though I hardly ever patrol that)-gadfium 19:33, 18 March 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for that. Yeah, I've discussed on my website whether there's a source / reference. If I get a chance I'll pop into the library on the weekend and search through the newspapers around June - July 1984 for a reference. --Lholden (talk) 19:35, 18 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] New Zealand

Posted on the New Zealand talk page. Acalamari 20:13, 18 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Three Gorges Dam merge opinion wanted

Can you give me an opinion on a split of the Three Gorges Dam article that I did into Environmental issues with the Three Gorges Dam? (or make a vote on it.) See the merge discussion at Talk:Environmental issues with the Three Gorges Dam. Cheers. -- Alan Liefting- (talk) - 05:41, 23 March 2008 (UTC)

It's a bit outside my area of expertise. The main article doesn't appear to be so long that it is vital to split it into subarticles, and you will probably get more readers of the material in the main article than in a subarticle. "Three Gorges Dam" was viewed 53,000 times so far in March, but "Environmental issues with the Three Gorges Dam" was viewed 850 times as at the time I looked at the stats.-gadfium 06:14, 23 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Pavlova (Food) Article reverting

The article does acknowledge that both New Zealand and Australia lay claim to the Pavlova, however, deleting unsourced claims is well within wikipedia policy and these changes should not be reverted, I refer to:

The claim that it was an Australian invention states that the pavlova is based on a cake baked by Bert Sachse at the Esplanade Hotel in Perth on 3 October 1935[citation needed]. Sachse's descendants believe he may have come up with the recipe earlier than that[citation needed], since Anna Pavlova visited Australia in 1926 and 1929 and died in 1931.

This statement has no sources, and is only a theory, and wikipedia policy:

"Material challenged or likely to be challenged, and all quotations, must be attributed to a reliable, published source.... ...Do not leave unsourced information in articles for too long.... It should be removed, aggressively, unless it can be sourced..."

Please take this into consideration, or instead of blindly reverting, find reliable information regarding the claim the Sachse's decendants have.

Thank you!—Preceding unsigned comment added by Metagraph (talk • contribs)

Wouldn't it be more appropriate if you put this at Talk:Pavlova (food)? Your edit is less likely to be reverted if you explain it where other editors are likely to look.-gadfium 01:51, 25 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Demographics of Tokelau

Hi Gadfium,

I understand your concerns about my placement of the "Demographics of Oceania" navbox on Tokelau. I have been attempting to place this navbox on each of the articles to which it links to enable better navigation. As you pointed out, Demographics of Tokelau redirects to Tokelau#Demographics, therefore I thought that was the most appropriate place for it. Where do you think would be the best place for it? Do you think that adding it to the bottom of the article would be appropriate?

Neelix (talk) 11:09, 25 March 2008 (UTC)

No, I don't think it should be on the Tokelau article at all. You could create a Demographics of Tokelau article with the existing contents op the Demographics section of Tokelau, and the few items from https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/geos/tl.html#People which aren't already included.-gadfium 17:34, 25 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Thank you!

Hey thanks for keeping an eye out for me, appreciated. :) Hope all is well! Glen 20:20, 25 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Philobrya meleagrina

Would you mind formatting this article and adding an infobox, etc? Thanks.-gadfium 05:21, 29 March 2008 (UTC)

Done, no trouble. Always happy to help, but I will be out of touch for the next 5 weeks while touring France, then returning to Auckland in May after 37 years away. Cheers. GrahamBould (talk) 06:53, 29 March 2008 (UTC)