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Contents 1 Logo 2 Could use your input and comments 3 June 2007 Wikiproject Christianity Newsletter 4 Joking 5 Sandi Toksvig 6 Thanks 7 Recent Delete 8 Velupillai Prabhakaran 9 Release the block on Orville Lloyd Douglas page 10 Anti-Catholicism in Ireland 11 Talk:Expulsion of Germans after World War II 12 Hi 13 Persecution of early Christians by the Jews 14 Your removal of db-attack 15 Rejoice! 16 Persecution of Paul of Tarsus 17 Move 18 Harry Chapin Foundation 19 The Almighty Chicken Hates You 20 Deletion Review for Fatass 21 NWT sub-user page 22 Poverty in India 23 Greco-Turkish War (1919-1922) 24 Poverty In India 25 Reading your mentee User:Avineshjose 26 A Question 27 Jeremy Stenberg 28 Happy Valentine's Day! 29 History of early Christianity 30 Expulsions 31 Admin Coaching Re-confirmation 32 Bombing of Dresden in World War II 33 Alfred-Maurice de Zayas 34 Alfred-Maurice de Zayas 35 AfD nomination of Islam and anti-Christian persecution 36 AfD nomination of Antisemitism in the United States 37 Alfred-Maurice de Zayas 38 WikiProject Council roll call 39 Page deleted. 40 Anti-Catholicism 41 WikiProject Christianity Newsletter 42 Protection 43 Kudos! 44 WikiProject Christianity Newsletter 45 Article 46 WikiProject Christianity Newsletter 47 history of jews, usa

[edit] Logo

Hi Richardshusr, please keep on eye of the the template. User:Orangemarlin, User:Jpgordon, User:Wafulz, User:Alison (User:Alison)Well!, User:Squiddyand User:Swid, User:Denniss has deleted the template-article and block this user who has create this article with the template. It is discrimination and the root is the school-discrimination in all christian-jew areas.

[edit] Could use your input and comments

Richard, can you look at the discussion on Israel in the Persecution of Christians article and weigh in? The section has been in the article for some time, but some editors are now removing it. It's well sourced and referenced. Do you see any problems with it? Please leave your thoughts on the article's talk page. Thanks.

[edit] June 2007 Wikiproject Christianity Newsletter

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[edit] Joking

Why do you think my RfA is a joke?

I just want to know but I'm not angry.

—Preceding unsigned comment added by Greenharpoon (talk • contribs)

[edit] Sandi Toksvig

It doesn't need protected , as you can see I removed it from the career myself after it has been put into the personal life by someone else. I'm happy with the way it appears now on the page. Nothing to get tired about since it's there in another context

[edit] Thanks

Thanks for clearing up the UEFA Euro YYYY situation, very much appreciated, Chaza93

[edit] Recent Delete

Richard, I noticed that you recently deleted my Zrii article; I understand and am not mad, but could you at least check out my site at www.aHUGEopportunity.com to see that I'm not a bad guy; you would be very successful with this opportunity. Keep up the good work! Eric

[edit] Velupillai Prabhakaran

Hello

Can you please take a look at the above article? Some users are adding things to the article that violates WP:BLP. For example they add criticism of a single person and to make things worst this criticism is given a lot of importance in the article. Also some questionable citations are being used in the article. Thanks

[edit] Release the block on Orville Lloyd Douglas page

I have spoken to one of the other editors on Wikipedia and they told me I had to contact you. Its been over two months and I would like to know when the block on Orville Lloyd Douglas page will be removed? It says that grammar problems on the page and it needs to be more neutral, so why don't you make the changes necessary? Or why can't somebody make the changes? I don't see any reason why the block hasn't been removed yet? —Preceding unsigned comment added by JordanJames (talk • contribs)

[edit] Anti-Catholicism in Ireland

I am the person who has been changing Ireland to Northern as you see my point is that Northern Ireland and the Republic are two very different states (one obviously a Republic and one belongs to UK. It seems to points out that Ireland (and by referring to Ireland you are referring to the Republic of Ireland) is a Protestant country when it actually isn't, I would prefer that it should be changed to Northern Ireland to avoid confusion and annoyance from fellow Irishmen like myself.

[edit] Talk:Expulsion of Germans after World War II

Would you please stop the self-made expert?Xx236 (talk) 16:27, 19 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Hi

Since I know as somewhat more neutral editor in German issues I decided to contact you regarding an article about Kidnapping of Polish children by Germany. There is a growing problem with the article regarding estimates and wording, and I would like to avoid a revert one. The problem is that one editor pushes forward an extremely low estimate from a book about Australian history in the first sentence and refuses to change it into more neutral description. I propose to give estimates below, sorted by institutes and sources so the reader can read them all instead of having one estimate pushed in the first line. Your comments are welcomed as always.--Molobo (talk) 16:40, 20 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Persecution of early Christians by the Jews

I noticed you participated in the Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Historical persecution by Jews (2nd nomination) discussion and I thought you might be interested in participating in a similar debate over at Talk:Persecution of early Christians by the Jews. Feel free to come by and contribute your thoughts. - CheshireKatz (talk) 20:12, 28 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Your removal of db-attack

In the future, please take a closer look before removing these templates. Assume good faith: assume the person had a reason to add it. You should, therefore, find a good reason to remove it. If you check the history, you'll notice the article was recently newly created in its current form. That should seem suspicious to you. Checking the contributor's history, you find warnings on their talk page regarding 9/11 Truth Movement. Checking that page, you can see that the two pages are copies, except the new "denial" page is an reworded version of 9/11 Truth Movement. It is an attack on a group, and therefore is a straightforward CSD case. TheBilly (talk) 08:21, 3 January 2008 (UTC)

Fair point but I still disagree. Your argument would suggest that Holocaust denial belongs at Holocaust truth or some such title. In case you didn't notice, I'm an admin and I have the right to evaluate speedy deletion requests. My evaluation, right or wrong, is that it's not a straightforward CSD case. If you disagree, take it to WP:AFD or to WP:DRV. The two articles probably need to be merged or otherwise differentiated. Maybe under 9/11 Truth Movement, maybe under 9/11 denial. In any event, I think it is a decision for a larger forum to decide. --Richard (talk) 08:36, 3 January 2008 (UTC)

Re: "take it to AfD"; I won't be taking it there. If you can't see that this is an attack page (as I explained to you above; check the facts for yourself), then it will be going to dispute resolution instead TheBilly (talk) 08:30, 3 January 2008 (UTC)

Well, you're welcome to do so but, if you'll excuse me, that just seems silly and a waste of everybody's time. CSD asks for an admin to come along and agree with you. One admin, me, has disagreed with you at least on the "speedy" part. Continuing on with CSD is basically forum shopping, looking for a different opinion from another admin. Why not just take it to AFD and get a fuller discussion and decision by a consensus of editors which is determined and ratified by a closing admin? If "two heads are better than one", then the "many heads" of an AFD discussion should be even better. As an "involved party", I promise I won't close the AFD debate.

--Richard (talk) 08:36, 3 January 2008 (UTC)

I was not forum-shopping, and I find the way that my opinion was being marginalized offensive, especially when I provided good evidence. Again, I'd appreciate if you could assume good faith; I had no intention of "wasting everybody's time". I was trying to do something constructive by getting rid of a highly inappropriate page. I was considering the option of dispute resolution because it seemed that I was being treated as some sort of lower lifeform who couldn't possibly have good judgement, when 2 whole admins disagreed. I wasn't planning on shopping around for someone who agreed with me, I wanted to find someone who would give more attention to the situation and realize my complaints were valid. There is a significant difference there. Now that the AfD resulted in "Speedy delete", it seems the only time that was wasted was mine TheBilly (talk) 14:20, 3 January 2008 (UTC)

I'm sorry that you were offended. Speedy deletes are not always obvious and there are cases where reasonable people can differ. Also, admins can make mistakes. I think that if you review my actions carefully, I considered and reconsidered my position a couple of times, weighed what you and other people were saying and changed my mind to incorporate that input. I had come to the conclusion that the article should be deleted but I wasn't convinced that it should be speedied. Another admin decided it should be speedied and I'm OK with that.

IMO, one of the most important characteristics of an admin is the ability and willingness to admit that he was wrong. I did that a couple of times last night and indicated so in the AFD discussion. I thought and still think Neverneutral has a valid point about the article's title but the copy-and-paste fork approach is not appropriate as I came to realize.

My point about "dispute resolution" being a "waste of time" was that AFD is the best place to resolve disputes over speedies and WP:PROD's. Going through WP:DR via things like WP:3O and WP:RFC is a waste of time because it attempts to substitute those processes for the discussion that more properly takes place in an AFD. These kinds of disagreements are what AFDs are for. The fact that the issue was crystal clear to you shouldn't make you arrogant. I'm sorry if I was a little dense about it but I wasn't trying to "marginalize" you. I had a legitimate difference of opinion and I recommended that AFD be used to air it out. It's far better than using edit summaries to conduct a discussion. It also produced a better discussion than was happening on this talk page. (i.e. more people weighed in and some with more convincing arguments)

Finally, the reason to go to AFD once someone takes down the speedy is to avoid edit wars. If you request a speedy and an admin denies it, you are perfectly justified in going to AFD to make your case. A speedy is a very quick and arbitrary thing. Someone asks for it, an admin sees it and zaps the article and it's over only subject to deletion review. If there's any doubt at all about the speedy request, an AFD helps provide legitimacy for the deletion decision with documentation of the reasons why.

Hope this helps mollify your unhappiness. Happy New Year and happy editing.

--Richard (talk) 17:12, 3 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Rejoice!

Thanx. --Richard (talk) 07:13, 4 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Persecution of Paul of Tarsus

Richard, I could use your help citing and arranging a paragraph on the Persecution of Paul of Tarsus in the Persecution of Christians in the New Testament page. My new testament expertise is lacking by comparison and I'm just not sure where to place it or how to break it up, if that's even necessary. I posted it on the article's talk page. Thanks in advance, I really appreciate it. - CheshireKatz (talk) 08:10, 6 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Move

A move was requested in the article i.e. Religious violence in India to Communal violence in India. But it met opposition. I am not aware if it is possible to close the move request non-administratively. Can you please look into the matter. Thank you. Otolemur crassicaudatus (talk) 09:25, 17 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Harry Chapin Foundation

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[edit] The Almighty Chicken Hates You

Who do you think you are to deny the word of the Almighty Chicken it is not Patent nonsense this is what we believe. What is Patent Nonsense is Scientology and you didn't insist they delete that page. We will try to talk to the Chicken but i beleive your ultimate fate will involve being pecked out of existence and things don't come back from there just look at the wallamaloows —Preceding unsigned comment added by Almighty Chicken (talk • contribs) 08:47, 24 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Deletion Review for Fatass

An editor has asked for a deletion review of Fatass. Since you closed the deletion discussion for this article, speedy-deleted it, or were otherwise interested in the article, you might want to participate in the deletion review. TheBlazikenMaster (talk) 14:47, 24 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] NWT sub-user page

Richard: I have created a sub-user page to continue editing the article on the NWT while it is protected.

You may or may not know the current circumstance of dispute. If you are aware of this, it is understandable that you have not offered public comment, and I am neither asking that you do so nor that you continue refraining. But, if you want, any feedback on my page set up for continuing the work of improving this article would be appreciated. You understand Wikipedia policy, and have demonstrated a competent perspective on appropriate presentation and verification. Despite my intention of working to improve this article, we both know feedback you offer on this sub-user page could be construed one way or another regarding the current dispute. Hence, if you decline my invitation it is understandable. Regardless, whether you like it or hate it, perhaps something in my editing will offer ideas for later editing to improve the Wikipedia article.--Marvin Shilmer (talk) 19:56, 25 January 2008 (UTC)

Hi, Marvin. Good to hear from you. Happy New Year.

I was not at all aware of the dispute before your message above. I looked quickly at the Mediation Cabal case and all I got from a quick skim was that there was some dispute about whether or not a digital copy of a transcript was a reliable source. Can you summarize what the point of the dispute really is?

Also, please tell me what kind of feedback you are looking for on the actual article. What are the major areas of improvement that you envision for this article?

Cheers.

--Richard (talk) 05:55, 26 January 2008 (UTC)

Richard: Happy new year to you too. I think the dispute over the transcript document is probably resolved. The current dispute has to do with whether the article on the New World Translation should or should not include the names of translators as revealed by former Watchtower insiders. According to the Watchtower organization the translators had requested anonymity and the Watchtower organization agreed never to publisher or otherwise verify the names. Recently this has moved a couple of editors to object to these names being in the Wikipedia article. You can read as much or as little about this as you want on the Mediation Cabal page. I am not seeking your involvement one way or another on issues being addressed in this dispute. Competing editors already think badly of me. I’m not trying to stir their pots.

When I move on to the NWT article during the month of December it was to improve its content. I had no idea this dispute would occur. The names of translators have been in the article for over two years in the main text. When two editors wanted to completely remove the names, I moved/relegated the information into the references with source data. I thought I was being moderate. But, the other two editors think differently. Oh, well. Getting back to my sandbox NWT article, because my time is limited on this article I am still working on improving the content while the mediation moves along and the article page is protected. Because you have no particular bias on the subject and because you are familiar with things JW, I thought I’d ask for any feedback on the article you might want to offer. Take care.--Marvin Shilmer (talk) 03:45, 27 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Poverty in India

Not sure if you were aware, a discussion on inclusion of image is going on in Talk:Poverty in India and Wikipedia:Administrators'_noticeboard/Incidents#User:Nikkul_on_Poverty_in_India. The edits of one User:Nikkul is getting much problemtic. Otolemur crassicaudatus (talk) 13:02, 28 January 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for protecting the page. I was getting tired with this user's attitude. Otolemur crassicaudatus (talk) 19:17, 29 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Greco-Turkish War (1919-1922)

When you moved contect from Occupation of Smyrna to Greco-Turkish War (1919-1922) at 09:04, 29 October 2006 in this revision http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Greco-Turkish_War_%281919-1922%29&oldid=84392002, you missed the bloody reference links... so, it stayed as <ref name="two-one-seven"/>... This is not a simple mistake as it stayed there for more than a year and YOU have made numerous edits to that article after that specific one. In the end, a bot added ^{[citation needed]} instead of that reference...

I think this kind of behaviour is really unacceptable... If you are to move content across articles you should be careful at what you are doing. I think all the people who edited this article after you, for more than ONE FULL YEAR, should be really ashamed, too.

So, I like had to go more than a year back and to Occupation of Smyrna article's references to dig out the right reference. FGS...

If you feel like commenting, do so in my talk page, too... Heracletus (talk) 08:41, 29 January 2008 (UTC)

People make mistakes. I'm sorry that this one annoyed you so much. --Richard (talk) 18:27, 29 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Poverty In India

I am not sure why you decided to protect the page at a time when the image in dispute was shown as a lead image at 250 px. Anyhow, Nikkul (talk) 23:24, 30 January 2008 (UTC)

Admins are not allowed to pick which version of the page to protect. We are not mediators or arbitrators. See Wikipedia:Protection policy and m:The Wrong Version. I even stated in my protection comment that the revision that I protected was not my preferred version. However, admins are simply supposed to protect whatever is the most recent versions.

--Richard (talk) 00:16, 31 January 2008 (UTC)

There is a discussion going on regarding whether or not the image should be a part of the Poverty in India page. Most Poverty in *Country* pages do not have any images, at most 1. User:Otolemur crassicaudatus has brought many images showing extreme poverty in India and has tried to mislead people into thinking this is the way a majority of poor Indians live. You can find this discussion here

Concensus has been achieved that proves that this image should not be there. User:Otolemur crassicaudatus is using other people's pain to his advantage. This man never agreed to be the posterchild depicting poverty. Please unprotect the page and remove the picture as suggested by the concensus on the talk page. Nikkul (talk) 23:24, 30 January 2008 (UTC)

I'm not convinced that consensus has been reached. Read WP:CONSENSUS. There hasn't been much dialogue, just taking sides and voting.

--Richard (talk) 00:16, 31 January 2008 (UTC)

Could you please reduce the image size to 150 px thumbnail. It looks odd in its present 350 px size. --Avinesh Jose  T  04:53, 31 January 2008 (UTC)

Would it be possible to have the image moved down the article a bit, maybe under the picture of the rural homes, this might make a few people happy. Cheers_Ad@m.J.W.C. (talk) 05:36, 31 January 2008 (UTC)

No, I think this is the sort of thing that needs to be hashed out in discussion. Pages should not be protected for a long time. They should be protected only long enough for people to get it through their thick heads that discussion, negotiation and compromise are to be preferred over edit warring. I do not intend to become the arbitrator of protected edit requests. Work it out amongst yourselves and then ask for the page to be unprotected. --Richard (talk) 06:42, 31 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Reading your mentee User:Avineshjose

Hi Admin ,

I see that you have given mentorship of User:Avineshjose for wiki. 

But I knindly request you to control his atrocties on the wiki. His actions are defintely scaring away lot of newbie wikipedians .

I would kindly request you attention to the past record of User:Avineshjose who had been doing all these .

• User talk:Avineshjose
• User_talk:Avineshjose/Archive_1
• User_talk:Avineshjose/Archive_2
• User_talk:Avineshjose/Archive_3
• User_talk:Avineshjose/Archive_4
• User_talk:Avineshjose/Archive_5
• User_talk:Avineshjose/Archive_1#Dont_bring_back_deleted_pages_with_the_same_content

The person was on an advertisment spree on wiki and was constantly putting up copyrighted or advertisment related stuff to wiki. He was many by times contented by the admins for this.

Now the person is having a new saddist trend... why dont i delete others' articles if I cant have my own !!!

A few snapshots

• User_talk:Avineshjose/Archive_5#Kottayam_medical_college
• User_talk:Avineshjose#Articles_Nominated_for_Deletion
• User_talk:Avineshjose/Archive_3#Nominating_articles_for_deletion
• User_talk:Avineshjose/Archive_2#Would_you_like_a_mentor_to_help_you_learn_more_about_Wikipedia.3F

And making false claims of his contritibutions. eg : the Government of Kerala article . It was orginally made by someone else and you doctored for change of name and claimed its ownership.

pretty cheap !!

All his actions are now fit enough for scaring away the wikipedian newbies...

• User_talk:Avineshjose/Archive_4#Nominating_articles_for_deletion

Tinucherian (talk) 09:34, 2 February 2008 (UTC)

N.B. See also User_talk:Redvers#Pakalomattom_Ayrookuzhiyil_and_Joy_Alukkas

The reason that I took on Avineshjose as a mentee is because he was a pain in the ass with an excess of enthusiasm and a paucity of technical expertise with Wikipedia processes. My hope is that he will grow wiser and more knowledgeable in the Ways of Wiki. For the record, his comments about Kottayam medical college were on the money. Many of his concerns about articles are valid although these can sometimes be fixed by editing and or deleting sections of text rather than deleting the entire article.

--Richard (talk) 00:09, 4 February 2008 (UTC)

Have you read user:Tinucherina’s comment in my talk page? Is it in accordance with our policy? Any comments or actions? Other rude behavior from this user is seen here also Used many (socks?) to vote side with him. --Avinesh Jose  T  04:22, 4 February 2008 (UTC)

Could you please explain Medical College, Kottayam issue, I din't get you, it is a Government Medical College, right?.
--Avinesh Jose  T  05:17, 4 February 2008 (UTC)

Avineshjose, presumably you are asking about my recent edits to Medical College, Kottayam. Even if it is a Government Medical College rather than a for-profit private institution, it is still a business and has services that it advertises. We have to decide where to draw the line between describing an institution and providing "excessive detail" about its offerings. Consider the University of California at Los Angeles (UCLA). Should we mention that they have a business school and a medical school? Certainly. A drama school? Probably. Should we mention every school and degree that they offer? Certainly not. Should we mention that they have a basketball team? Certainly. Should we mention every collegiate sports team that they field? Certainly not. It has nothing to do with public vs. private institution. It has to do with Wikipedia being an encyclopedia not a school brochure.

--Richard (talk) 16:42, 4 February 2008 (UTC)

• Yes, Government of Kerala is created me. It was earlier Politics and Government of Kerala created by somebody else, which I'd renamed, after a proposal made. It is mentioned in my user page also. Under the new title, I'd contributed a lot to this. User:Tinucherian is not a newbie, as he claims. He has been using WP for 1 year, 5 months and 28 days (as per UB in his UP as of today). I can see all the above comments mentioned as bad faith and disruptive since I nominated his article to AfD. The user has been warned many times (in his talk page & AfD discussion) by diffrent admins and is standing nearer to block editing WP. details.
  --Avinesh Jose  T  08:37, 4 February 2008 (UTC)

Avineshjose, the comments made by Tinucherian on your Talk Page are a bit hostile but you should be aware that your interaction style arouses hostility. You are not always right and yet you often write as if you are certain that you are right. Perhaps you can benefit from toning down your attitude. (And so could Tinucherian).

I don't want to get involved in this personal acrimony between the two of you and I'm not going to take sides. Please don't continue this spat here on my Talk Page. If there is a violation of policy, take it to the appropriate Wikipedia process (WP:ANI, WP:RFC, WP:RFARB, etc.) However, more is to be gained from being collegial and collaborative than from being confrontational.

In other words, just chill.

--Richard (talk) 16:42, 4 February 2008 (UTC)

Richard, As a Wikipedian, I am just doing my duty. In this case, I’d nominated an article to AfD as it is lacking sources. Instead of attacking me and using sock puppets & anonym users to comment side with him, User:Tinucherian should have provided more references (if available) to keep his article. I think that is the right way we contribute to this project. Any way, I ignored it, the user made apology in my talk page also & the story is over now. Thanks.--Avinesh Jose  T  05:26, 5 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] A Question

Richard: There is a Wikipedia editor that persists with accusations that I have plagiarized. As you know this is an extremely harsh allegation, not to mention reputation ruining. I have asked this editor to cease, and have warned him on talk pages. He persists. Since I do not tend to make use of complaint departments (here or elsewhere) I am completely unfamiliar with how to report this vicious behavior and ask for something to be done about it. Can you help with some guidance? If you prefer, you can send me an email from my talk page, or else we can have the discussion right here.--Marvin Shilmer (talk) 03:19, 8 February 2008 (UTC)

Marvin, you can ask for the editor to be blocked for violating WP:NPA. File your complaint at WP:ANI. You will have to provide evidence that the attacks are totally unwarranted. If you like, I will look at your evidence but I think it is better to go to WP:ANI and get an admin who doesn't know you to look at the evidence. This would provide an "arms length" evaluation of the situation that is not susceptible to charges of cronyism or other bias.

--Richard (talk) 07:58, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

Richard: Thank you for your comments on sandbox NWT talk page.

You got it all wrong. I am not arguing over who gets credit, as though I care. Cfrito is the one who has complained and complained that, somehow, I was taking credit for something he did first, or that was his idea rather than mine, or something to that effect. I agree. The notion is absurd. This kind of banter is inconsequential to me. What bothers me about this particular event is that Cfrito used it to level an accusation against me of plagiarism. Not just once, but three times. As an academic, an accusation of plagiarism is something I take very seriously. I have colleagues who read and contribute here!--Marvin Shilmer (talk) 21:50, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

No, I didn't get it all wrong although I may have taken the issue too lightly. Before reading the Talk Page, I assumed that the charge of plagiarism would be about using someone else's text. I thought I made it clear in my edit summary that I too thought it was laughable to charge plagiarism over whose name is associated with the movement of text from one section to the other. Now, if you want to push the point, you can explain to Cfrito why you take charges of plagiarism seriously and why he should not apply that word with all its heavy connotations to characterize trivial b-sh*t like who moved text from one section to another. If this is plagiarism, my contributions are rife with it. At Wikipedia, this is called "editing mercilessly". We all get credit for building the encyclopedia together but no single one of us gets any real credit since, most of the time, it is more effort than it is worth to trace how much of an article came from a specific author. --Richard (talk) 23:39, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

Richard: I take charges against my person of plagiarism seriously because I live, breath, scratch, crawl, kick, scream, teach and research in academia, where plagiarism is doom. I have tried to explain this to editor Cfrito, and his response was to keep leveling the charge. This aggressive behavior is why I sought advice.

I do not give a rat's buttoon about credit for anything I do or do not do here on Wikipedia. But no matter where I work, if there is accusation of plagiarism on my part it has much potential for ruining my reputation and career. I must have misread your remark on my sandbox talk page about getting a life. I thought it was directed to "you guys," which would include me. I am not the one who made the absurd accusation of plagiarism. I am the guy who was trying to defend against the charge, and a whole lot more too that I have not bothered you or anyone else with.

By the way, I am a grandfather, again. This is living! To life! :-) Marvin Shilmer (talk) 03:04, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Jeremy Stenberg

Hey,

You handled the last deletion of Jeremy Stenberg, one of three deletions of the subject. I was wondering if you could maybe let me know the circumstances of those deletions, or at least the one you handled yourself (I don't know what all you can see going back or not). He should meet notability as an X Games gold medalist, so I was surprised to see three versions gone. Anyway, if you could just let me know what has gone on with the page, I might look into seeing if we can get an valid article on the subject up. Thanks much. matt91486 (talk) 17:13, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

See my response on your Talk Page. --Richard (talk) 07:59, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

Thanks much. I'll see what I can do for turning it into a legitimate article. matt91486 (talk) 16:28, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Happy Valentine's Day!

A short/sweet little message, which I hope has made your day better! Happy Valentine's Day!!! Wilhelmina Will (talk) 03:00, 14 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] History of early Christianity

I posted a rundown of my edits, per your request. If you have any questions or concerns, please let me know and I will do my best to address them. Cheers! Vassyana (talk) 17:33, 15 February 2008 (UTC)

I have restored Relations between early Christianity and Judaism and made it into a protected redirect. Since the content was merged, the article history must be preserved for GFDL compliance. Cheers! Vassyana (talk) 15:09, 18 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Expulsions

Hi Richard. I just took a look at Expulsion of Germans after World War II, which I hadn't visited in a long time. I made a couple of editing changes and left a comment at Talk:Expulsion of Germans after World War II, in which you might be interested. Sca (talk) 22:03, 19 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Admin Coaching Re-confirmation

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[edit] Bombing of Dresden in World War II

The is currently a dispute over a paragraph you wrote (with some modifications) for the Bombing of Dresden in World War II article. I would appreciate it if you would take a look. --Philip Baird Shearer (talk) 18:41, 26 February 2008 (UTC)

The request was to join in the debate, as you had been the creator of the paragraph not to use your admin button. If I had wanted page protection I could have done that myself or asked at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents. --Philip Baird Shearer (talk) 13:32, 29 February 2008 (UTC)

I understood your request and I explained why I didn't feel qualified to join in the debate. It would have been inappropriate for you to protect the page and I saw no need to recuse myself since I had declared my neutrality and was not involved in the conflict. --Richard (talk) 03:04, 1 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Alfred-Maurice de Zayas

Dear Richard,

The de Zayas article in the German Wikipedia has been vandalized since Septebmer 2007 and is currently protected until June 2008. The English article was similarly vandalized and required protection, which was given, and then lifted. On 29 February a user Swalker introduced defamatory information which is easily rebuttable. He gives one source, a book review by a leftist German historian of one of de Zayas books. That same book received brilliant reviews in the Times, Army, Netherlands International Law Review and most recently the Frankfurter Allgemeine Zeitung (31 July 2006). It is ridiculous and defamatory to suggest that de Zayas, a noted human rights activist, frequent participant at UN panels and former senior lawyer with the Office of the United Nations High Commissioner for Human Rights is a "revisionist" historian. His views are balanced, as illustrated in the majority of the reviews of his many books. Please protect the article again. Thank you. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Gancefort (talk • contribs) 06:16, 2 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Alfred-Maurice de Zayas

Dear Richard,

User Schwalker continues adding a smear into the article on de Zayas.

It may be that Rainer Ohliger wrote a negative review of "A Terrible Revenge" in H-Net back 11 years ago.

But this review is rebutted in dozens of positive reviews by reputable professors of history and of international law, including, as it has been noted by Wiki-users -- in the Frankfurter Allgemeine Zeitung in July 2006. Moreover, the book was favourably cited in November 2007 in the New York Review of Books.

The Ohliger review libelously suggests that de Zayas is a "revisionist". This is defamatory and must be removed.

Here is the paragraph that Schwalker has introduced on 3 occasions, after other Wiki-users have removed it.

"De Zayas has been accused of taking a revisionist point of view which puts him in a line with the fraction of revisionist historians during the German Historikerstreit since 1986. The history of escape and expulsion of Germans from eastern Europe is dissolved from its context and reasons, by painting the German refugees mainly as victims, and putting the blame on the foreign policy of the USA and UK after the war for not opposing forcefully enough the expansionism of the UdSSR after WWII. This view of der Zaya, the critiques say, is neglecting the revisionist, expansionist and murderous foreign policy of Germany during the war, as well as the political mobilization and radicalisation of German minorities in Eastern-Middle Europe, and the resulting conflicts in the years before the war, which had been caused by the political intervention by Germany and the turn towards Nationalism of the German minorities.[41]"

Could you protect the de Zayas article and block it for a month ? --

but, please, make sure that this ridiculous smear is deleted before the article is protected.

It does not help to protect the article if the defamation gets protected with it ! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.77.212.10 (talk) 18:19, 2 March 2008 (UTC)

Dear Richard, could you please have a look on the article again? IPs and Users are deleting again birthday and place although it is published in different sources. Regards--KarlV (talk) 10:59, 13 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] AfD nomination of Islam and anti-Christian persecution

I have nominated Islam and anti-Christian persecution, an article you created, for deletion. I do not feel that this article satisfies Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion, and have explained why at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Islam and anti-Christian persecution. Your opinions on the matter are welcome at that same discussion page; also, you are welcome to edit the article to address these concerns. Thank you for your time. Otolemur crassicaudatus (talk) 11:03, 8 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] AfD nomination of Antisemitism in the United States

I have nominated Antisemitism in the United States, an article you created, for deletion. I do not feel that this article satisfies Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion, and have explained why at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Antisemitism in the United States. Your opinions on the matter are welcome at that same discussion page; also, you are welcome to edit the article to address these concerns. Thank you for your time. Otolemur crassicaudatus (talk) 20:33, 11 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Alfred-Maurice de Zayas

Dear Richard,

I think that the above article needs protection.

There is a fellow Schwalker who keeps adding the "neutrality" warning and erasing the messages of other Wiki-users. He cites sources that are thoroughly unreliable, e.g. "blick nach rechts" a self-appointed anti-fascist watchdog in Germany that has been instrumentalized to attack many CDU and CSU members of the German Parliament. BNR is a left-wing activist organization and has zero academic credentials.

The de Zayas article should be protected without the "neutrality" warning, and without the defamation of de Zayas as a potential "revisionist". The book which is being attacked by Schwalker, KarlV and this "watch dog" BNR has a preface by the late US Ambassador Robert Murphy, the political advisor of Eisenhower during WWII and political advisor of General Lucius Clay. It was brilliantly reviewed by US Nuremberg Prosecutor Benjamin Ferencz in the American Journal of International Law, and by the late Professor Goldie also in the American Journal of International Law (US revised edition).

The term "revisionist" is highly defamatory. And even if a few extreme left-wing historians have tried to defame de Zayas by using this label -- they have not succeeded, and a recent edition of "Die Nemesis von Potsdam" was positively reviewed in the Neue Zürcher Zeitung in February 2006. A recent edition of "Die deutschen Vertriebenen" was similarly very positively reviewed in the Frankfurter Allgemeine Zeitung. "A Terrible Revenge" was favourably mentioned in the New York Review of Books in November 2007.

If you do decide to protect the article, please make sure that it is protected without the defamation -- It would be a pity to "protect" the article and thereby perpetuate the defamation.

Please watch the additions of these two German busy-bodies KarlV and Schwalker, who have already added all sorts of nonsense and unreliable information in the German Wiki article. They waging an internal German quarrel that does not belong in Wiki. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Gancefort (talk • contribs) 11:10, 13 March 2008 (UTC)

Ah, as I could see, Gancefort and other IPs are still deleting birthday and bithplace in this article although this information was well published. Could ypu please be so kind to help to stop this stupid nonsense? Regards--KarlV (talk) 11:23, 13 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Page deleted.

I am wondering why the article Whempys LAN was deleted?

We had stated the significant of the event, and are as important as all the other event pages listed on the LAN Party wiki entry.

I feel that this deletion was in error. Please respond to my talk page.

Lycwolf (talk) 04:10, 4 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Anti-Catholicism

I am concerned about the general tone of the article. It seems geared toward arguing for any idea which if not endorsed by Catholics is inherently anti-Catholic, something which seems ludicrous to say the least.

Social change in the United States for instance, has continually revolved around a liberal-progressive sort of ideology, in which it is believed that science and individual freedom can produce a better society. One of the results of this general trend over much of the 20th century has been to produce ideas and ideals which society believes are healthier and will lead to greater happiness than those founded on a strict Catholic ideology.

It seems as though Catholics who feel (rightly so) that they are slowly losing ground in American politics may subsequently be led to believe that they are being persecuted by the rest of society. This is no doubt due to the erroneous, unspoken presentiment that Catholics are the original Christians, they were saved by Jesus and must spread his message and their practices to the whole world; those who resist are unholy; they are anti-Catholic.

This sort of perspective is pervasive of the entire article. The genuine anti-Catholicism of the early centuries A.D. seems to have been mutated by Catholics into this sort of contemporary complex of continual persecution, consisting of arguments which attempt to portray the Catholic as trapped, repressed, and under-represented, an attempt at composing a Christian version of continuing antisemitism. On the contrary, Catholics now enjoy a fundamental protection from discrimination that they never had in the past.

So to put it bluntly, this article, which should be mainly on the genuine imprisonment, torture, and execution of martyrs and whatnot, has instead been morphed into this sort of giant complaint about "waaah, we have so little influence in society now, waaah." Parts of the article seem to focus on contemporary issues which while said to be anti-Catholic, are simply different, a lapse of warranted distinction which I feel, based on 7 years of attending Catholic school, is very characteristic of the Christian mindset in general.

However accurate one may believe my viewpoint to be, the page overall is indisputably not NPOV. I wish I could address each section in detail, but I am prevented by strict time constraints.

Kst447 (talk) 16:55, 7 May 2008 (UTC)

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[edit] Protection

You left Bombing of Dresden in World War II protected for about two months. In the future, to avoid this, please always set a time limit for full protection in mainspace. Thanks. Superm401 - Talk 09:32, 24 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Kudos!

Great job on the light bulb discussion. I particularly liked this one:

Whether it is morally justified for the light bulb to be dead given the evil done by some while the light was working

Perhaps we should add Goethe's parting words: "Mehr Licht!"

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[edit] Article

Could I please get the text that I had placed here placed here as I am working on it. and hadn't finished when I had to log off. Dreamafter (talk) 21:41, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

Ya, it was premature, but my connection to the internet ran out, so I couldn't edit it. Dreamafter (talk) 23:02, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

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[edit] history of jews, usa

Really nice work copyediting this article, which needs a lot of help. Kaisershatner (talk) 14:27, 10 June 2008 (UTC)