User talk:DDima

[edit] Russia FAC

Hi, with regards to your concern on the FAC, I am going by the Millennium of Russia, which was erected in 1862 to celebrate the millennium of Rurik's arrival to Novgorod, an event traditionally taken as a starting point of Russian history. How would you propose that I modify what is currently in the infobox? The arrival of Rurik to Novgorod preceded Kievan Rus by a couple of decades, when his successor, Oleg, moved down and conquered Kiev and moved the capital of Rus from Novgorod the Great to Kiev and, in doing so, founded the state of Kievan Rus. If I put the starting point of Russian history as Kievan Rus in the infobox then I will also have to put the Grand Duchy of Moscow, Tsardom of Russia, Russian Empire, Soviet Union, Russian Federation.--Miyokan (talk) 04:13, 30 December 2007 (UTC)

Actually, I don't mind having them in there.. but I guess it would get kind of bulky.. Perhaps we could add a footnote (in the infobox itself) describing something like

¹ The arrival of Rurik to Novgorod the Great in 862 AD is considered as the traditional foundation of Russia by Russians.

Thanks for the quick responce. —dima/talk/ 04:34, 30 December 2007 (UTC)

I added a footnote.--Miyokan (talk) 05:31, 30 December 2007 (UTC)

As far as I know the name "Russia" was coined by Petro I. I don't think there was Tsardom of Russia, but rather Tsardom of Moscow. Another thing, I doubt that the first capital of Rus was Novhorod. Novhorod was always a Free Republic and stayed that way even while being a part of Rus. And the first capital of Rus has been Kyiv.Aleksandr Grigoryev (talk) 06:14, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] DYK article

On 1 January 2008, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Mezhyhirskyi Monastery, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

Ah, good to see that. No, nothing more at present other than the Romanian equivalent, but I will keep an eye out. One thing we could do is go through articles on Orthodox monasteries and, if we find reference to a "founder" or "donor" or something along those lines, and if appropriate of course, replace with ktitor. Biruitorul (talk) 02:11, 6 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] З Новим Роком!

Riurik wishes you a Happy 2008!

Also wanna wish you the best year ever! Thank you for your wishing. Aleksandr Grigoryev (talk) 05:51, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

Thanks. —dima/talk/ 18:57, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Chicago "landbrother"

Hey, Dima, where are you in Chicago? I used to live in Skokie for over three years before moving to East Coast. Chicago is my first city here in America -- second Motherland:) Aleksandr Grigoryev (talk) 06:22, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

I live in Northwest Indiana, in a small town of Munster. —dima/talk/ 18:57, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Happy New year from DYK

		The 25 DYK Medal
		Congratulations! Here's a medal for you in appreciation of your hardwork in creating, expanding and nominating 25+ articles for DYK. Its a bit belated as you have over 30ish ... it seems a long time since you started and so many articles. Keep up the good work, DDima, the Ukraine is represented! --Victuallers (talk) 21:21, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

Thanks a lot Victuallers! —dima/talk/ 21:25, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Image:Map of Dnipropetrovsk Metro ukr.png

There are a lot of mistakes on this image.--Ahonc (Talk) 17:04, 8 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Mezhyhirskyi Monastery GAR

I've left comments for a Good Article Review on the talk page.

From looking at your userpage, I see you have lots more experience at this than I do, but I hope the comments help. I'll formally put it on hold. Let me know what you do to the article. Smallbones (talk) 00:03, 10 January 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for reviewing it. I will start fixing it up soon (probably today) —dima/talk/ 00:04, 10 January 2008 (UTC)

Passed, congrats, Do please look for some English-language reference. Smallbones (talk) 21:48, 11 January 2008 (UTC)

Congratulations! Bogdan ^що? 22:34, 11 January 2008 (UTC)

Thanks a lot! Hopefully, you'll have the same luck with Ukraine.. nice job on it! —dima/talk/ 22:35, 11 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Поздравление

Удачного Вам года! :) Russianname

Спасибо! —dima/talk/ 17:09, 12 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] adminship

Hello. I've seen your edits of late and think you would make a good administrator. It looks like someone above had the same idea, so I was wondering if you thought you were ready now (since you said you weren't a month ago). Wizardman 20:35, 13 January 2008 (UTC)

Thanks. I've been offered nominations before, but they never really formulated into real RfAs. One thing that worries me is my not so consistent contributions to the Wikipedia namespace, but I've been more active in them recently. Thanks for considering me, I'll accept. —dima/talk/ 01:08, 15 January 2008 (UTC)

Sounds good. I'll make the nomination, and if you wish to ask any of your previous requests to co-nom, that'd be fine at that time. Your wikispace number doesn't seem to be a problem, I've had candidates pass in similar situations before no problem. Since I ahve some time to space I should be able to get it ready shortly. Wizardman 01:12, 15 January 2008 (UTC)

just answer the questions, and transclude when you're ready. Good luck. Wizardman 01:28, 15 January 2008 (UTC)

Ok, thanks. Sorry for the delay, I am pretty busy with off-wiki stuff (school), but I'll probably answer and transclude it later on today.. —dima/talk/ 22:01, 15 January 2008 (UTC)

I went and reset the time, as well as put it on the main rfa page. Wizardman 23:48, 18 January 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for saving me the trouble. I was just busy with school (finals) so I couldn't have spent a lot of time on here, —dima/talk/ 23:51, 18 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Banská Bystrica

Thank you for beginning the GA review process of Banská Bystrica. I feel we have now addressed all (or most of) your concerns. Please let me know if you find anything else that should be improved. Thank you again for all your great suggestions! Tankred (talk) 14:08, 17 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Города Украины

Здравствуйте! Хотел Вам объяснить, что я вполне обоснованно удалял русские названия из статей о городах Украины (Киеве, Харькове и др), т.к. Украина в настоящий момент - независимое государство, и единственный официальный (государственный) язык там - украинский.--Reino Helismaa (talk) 11:17, 20 January 2008 (UTC)

Hi. I understand that Ukrainian is the only state language in Ukraine.. but that is not a reason as to why we should remove other names from the introduction. It (Russian) is widely spoken in Kharkiv and Kiev, just like we have the Polish: Lwów in the introduction of Lviv. They can be in there regardless of being official or not.. Please don't revert it, otherwise discuss it at the talk. —dima/talk/ 16:48, 20 January 2008 (UTC)

re:It (Russian) is widely spoken in Kharkiv and Kiev///

В Харькове - да, но не в Киеве. В Киеве все говорят по-украински.--Reino Helismaa (talk) 20:14, 20 January 2008 (UTC)

Не факт. И по-русски тоже говорят.--Ahonc (Talk) 20:49, 21 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Userpage

You forgot <references/> on your userpage :)--Ahonc (Talk) 20:49, 21 January 2008 (UTC)

I think I have it.. I use {{reflist}}.. —dima/talk/ 03:21, 22 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Huggle.

Hehe, I almost hit "Q"... :P · AndonicO ^Hail! 00:11, 22 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] thx

I have the mop but can you search the RFA meeting shown to find the bucket?	Thanks for your support, my request for adminship passed 60/0/0 yesterday! I want to thank Mrs.EasterBunny and Royalbroil for nominating me, those who updated the RfA tally, and everyone for their support and many kind words. To paraphrase a president ... I wish my mum and dad could see the comments made. My dad would be so proud to see the comments ... and my mum would have believed them". I will do my best to use the new tools carefully and responsibly (and you may be surprised to find that I have not deleted all of the pages by accident..... yet). Thanks again, Victuallers (talk) 20:51, 22 January 2008 (UTC)	An early RFA meeting to decide if Victuallers can be included as a sysop - use cursor to identify.

[edit] Your are now an administrator

Congratulations, I have just closed your RfA as successful and made you an administrator. Take a look at the administrators' how-to guide and the administrators' reading list if you haven't read those already. Also, the practice exercises at the new admin school may be useful. If you have any questions, get in touch on my talk page. WjBscribe 01:31, 26 January 2008 (UTC)

Let me be the first to offer congratulations! As another newly minted admin, welcome! -- Alexf⁴² 01:34, 26 January 2008 (UTC)

Thanks Alex! —dima/talk/ 01:35, 26 January 2008 (UTC)

Enjoy! :-) Bogdan ^що? 01:36, 26 January 2008 (UTC)

Thanks :) —dima/talk/ 01:45, 26 January 2008 (UTC)

Congradulations! Ceriy (talk) 01:53, 26 January 2008 (UTC)

Salute!

I agree. You do very good work. Ostap 04:17, 26 January 2008 (UTC)

Thanks a lot guys! —dima/talk/ 04:37, 26 January 2008 (UTC)

Congrats! Oysterguitarist 04:53, 26 January 2008 (UTC)

Congratulations and good luck. :) --Boguslav (talk) 20:20, 26 January 2008 (UTC)

Thanks! —dima/talk/ 20:43, 26 January 2008 (UTC)

Congratulations! Jauerback^dude?/_dude. 20:41, 26 January 2008 (UTC)

Thanks and congrats to you too! —dima/talk/ 20:43, 26 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] About your RfA

The admins' T-shirt. Acalamari 02:36, 26 January 2008 (UTC)

Congratulations on your successful request for adminship. I am glad you passed, and you are welcome for the support. For information on using your new tools, see the school for new admins; you will find it very useful. Good luck! Acalamari 02:36, 26 January 2008 (UTC)

Thanks. I've read and looked through the new admin school page.. You're right, its pretty helpful. Cheers, —dima/talk/ 04:37, 26 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Removing backlinks

Please do not remove links like [1]; there will eventually be an article about SR 34. Thank you. --NE2 07:15, 26 January 2008 (UTC)

I see.. I was wondering about what to do with that.. Thanks for informing me, —dima/talk/ 18:21, 26 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] RfA thankyou template

Check out how your template displayed for Wizardman.  ;) --TT 12:08, 26 January 2008 (UTC)

I guess I should have checked that out before posting it :)) —dima/talk/ 18:27, 26 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Congratulations!

Congrats! and good job on your RFA. Spencer^T♦C 14:42, 26 January 2008 (UTC)

Thanks Spencer! —dima/talk/ 20:43, 26 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Thanks

I created the category:Blender users you just deleted. I actually wanted it to be deleted because it was redundant, but I only discovered Category:Wikipedians who use Blender after the fact.

So, thanks for helping me. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Bedelato (talk • contribs) 19:40, 26 January 2008 (UTC)

You're welcome. It wasn't any problem at all for me to delete it. —dima/talk/

[edit] For your valuable work

		The Geography Barnstar
		Let me use an opportunity of Ukraine being recognized today as a good article to award you this barnstar for your excellent work on the whole variety of Ukrainian geographic articles. Greggerr (talk) 00:51, 27 January 2008 (UTC)

I join, and congrats on the adminship.--Riurik^(discuss) 01:20, 28 January 2008 (UTC)

Thanks Riurik! —dima/talk/ 01:24, 28 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Congratulations!

Congratulations on your successful adminship bid, glad I was able to help. Jayjg ^(talk) 21:41, 27 January 2008 (UTC)

Присоединяюсь к поздравлениям.--Ahonc (Talk) 22:49, 27 January 2008 (UTC)

Thanks guys. —dima/talk/ 01:24, 28 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Ukrainian parliamentary election, 2007

Someone who didn't register on wikipedia has made changes too the Ukrainian parliamentary election, 2007 wikipedia article. I already made some changes to his/her changes but can't really judge if his/her other changes are based on facts! I can't read Ukrainian yet, But I'm learning! Can you please take a look at it? I trust you and him/her I don't trust! He/she could be a "blue one" out on revange :) ДУЖЕ ДЯКУЮ! Mariah-Yulia (talk) 23:22, 27 January 2008 (UTC)

I reverted his edits. Another administrator blocked the anonymous editor today because he was a sockpuppet of blocked user UkraineToday. Cheers, —dima/talk/ 23:36, 27 January 2008 (UTC)

Thanks. Together we are many! We cannot be defeated! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mariah-Yulia (talk • contribs) 00:50, 28 January 2008 (UTC)

You're welcome :) —dima/talk/ 01:24, 28 January 2008 (UTC)

Кстати, по поводу Ukrainian parliamentary election: читал commons:Image talk:Ukrainian parliamentary election, 2007 (second place results).PNG?--Ahonc (Talk) 13:41, 28 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] DYK

On 28 January 2008, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Contracts House, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

[edit] Move request

If you have a minute, could you make a move? See Talk:FC Metalurg Donetsk for request and discussion. Thanks ahead.--Riurik^(discuss) 06:28, 29 January 2008 (UTC)

Done. —dima/talk/ 21:51, 29 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Ukrainian-Soviet War

Perhaps you could help expand this newly created article? --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk} 21:52, 29 January 2008 (UTC)

I'll see what I can do. —dima/talk/ 22:04, 29 January 2008 (UTC)

• hello admin. Since you know more about this than I, can any of these maps be used? Ostap 22:33, 29 January 2008 (UTC)

Well, they are copyrighted, but can be included in the article under the "fair-use" policy if the image meets the criteria listed.. It's better to have a freely-licenced image, but if none are available, then you can upload the copyrighted image.. (as long as it meets the criteria..) —dima/talk/ 03:43, 31 January 2008 (UTC)

Thanks. That sounds like a long way of saying: no. I have a feeling they would probably get deleted anyway. Thanks though. Ostap 03:57, 31 January 2008 (UTC)

Basicly.. I have upload quite a lot of images and they were deleted because they did not fit the "criteria" for fair-use.. I'll try to find some other maps of the war from my book colleection. —dima/talk/ 04:15, 31 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Milena Markovna Kunis / Milena Markivna Kunis

This is not that important but on Mila Kunis page (actress born in Kyiv). They say her name is Milena Markovna Kunis But even my (female) friend from Crimea uses the Ukrainian version of her Patronymic (Milena Markivna Kunis, (that is not my friends name ofcourse)). I mentioned it on the talk page of the article but nobody responds on the talk page of the article. Can I change it too Milena Markivna Kunis? Russian versions of Ukrainian names irritate me :) Mariah-Yulia (talk) 21:18, 30 January 2008 (UTC) {{subst:ukrwelcome0

Replied at the portal place. Mariah-Yulia, you may also want to look at the issue from the other perspective, where Ukrainian names can be deemed (probably are by some) as irritable.--Riurik^(discuss) 18:52, 1 February 2008 (UTC)

Robin Eggs Photo

Fantastic!

JennyB (talk) 12:33, 3 February 2008 (UTC)

Thanks :) I had a bird live under my awning, and I saw a good opportunity for a picture.. unfortunatly, none of the birds lived to hatch.. —dima/talk/ 04:20, 4 February 2008 (UTC)

question

How was it occupied by the Nazis but not the red army[2]? Ostap 01:36, 4 February 2008 (UTC)

I was only reverting an anon's edit (who had a history of non-NPOV changes). If you want, then we can change the wording to "was again attached to the Soviet Union..." to make it more neutral.. —dima/talk/ 04:17, 4 February 2008 (UTC)

Ukrainian Insurgent Army/Holodomor/Denial of the Holodomor

Now that you are an administrator maybe you can help. There is an editor who is adding really complex information on the three above articles. Editor appears to adhere to "Soviet" version of the facts and characterizes anything that he disagrees as propaganda or not true. The Editor has some problems with basic English. The Editor is rude and accusatory - appears not to be use to working in a collaborative manner.

Any advice?

Thanks Bobanni (talk) 11:06, 7 February 2008 (UTC)

Sure, I'll be glad to help out.. I haven't followed the page all that closely in the past, but will see with what I can help out and respond on the talk page. I see that the page has been protected (UPA) until the disputes are settled and that the arbcom case has been so far rejected by the arbitrators.. Some suggest to use other forms of dispute resolution, like RfC.. —dima/talk/ 05:11, 8 February 2008 (UTC)

TfD nomination of Template:Infobox Kiev Subdivision‎

Template:Infobox Kiev Subdivision‎ has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the template's entry on the Templates for Deletion page. Thank you.

Also, if you know the neighborhoods within a raison, I know how those can place into the infobox. —MJCdetroit ^(yak) 01:25, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

No offense intended. I am just trying to tie together different infoboxes with a common format and look. Please look at my changes to Pechersk. I added the main neighborhoods and made it so the settlement type shows near the top of the infobox. This sort of change could be carried across all the raisons of Kiev articles. —MJCdetroit ^(yak) 18:05, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

That looks a lot better now.. Thanks for fixing the template, —dima/talk/ 19:14, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

Speedy deletion of Template:ZN-1

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If the template is intended to be substituted, please feel free to remove the speedy deletion tag and please consider putting a note on the template's page indicating that it is substituted so as to avoid any future mistakes (<noinclude>{{transclusionless}}</noinclude>).

Thanks. --MZMcBride (talk) 20:48, 14 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Speedy deletion of Template:ZN-3

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[edit] 1811 Great fire of Podil

On 15 February 2008, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article 1811 Great fire of Podil, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

[edit] Ruthenia

Actually, a lot of English-soeaking historians don't like this term ... I've found in general a preference for Rus'ia, although a narrow one over Russia (which would be resented on wiki), Western Russia (likewise) and of course Ruthenia. Deacon of Pndapetzim (Talk) 04:21, 19 February 2008 (UTC)

I don't know about historians not liking the term, but I've seen it used quite oftain.. Another equivalent for the term is plainly Rus’ (usually the one I use). —dima/talk/

You'll notice the number using it gets fewer when you survey medievalists. The term "Ruthenia" means dozens of things in modern languages, and it is quite, quite spurious to use it in the middle ages to imply that it had a distinct meaning [from Rus'ia] when its just a Latin word for Rus'ia, or that it's use conjured up separate identities in the predecessors of the peoples living in the areas which happen to fall in modern Belarus and Ukraine. Sadly though on wiki its a popular word for the last sense, prolly due to its nationalist appeal, and I'll never bother launching a real challenge to its use, so don't worry I'm not gonna revert or anything. It's a bit like the term "Angle" ... a modern invention [taken from Angl-i, -etc, meaning English] which misleads more than it informs, giving us wonderful nonsense articles like Angles and Anglic languages! I'd have likewise no chance of successfully limiting use of those. All the best, Deacon of Pndapetzim (Talk) 05:14, 19 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Andriy Shevchenko

The article on Andriy Shevchenko has recieved countless vandalism recently. Is there anything that you can do? --Boguslav (talk) 06:16, 24 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Welcome back

Hey, Ahkristov! Welcome back.. hopefully you'll come onto wiki more oftain. Cheers, —dima/talk/ 17:03, 23 February 2008 (UTC)

Hey, thanks! As long as nobody stresses me out, I'll gradually resume contributing. Otherwise, I'll disappear again. By the way, congrats on your adminship! — Alex Khristov 08:08, 24 February 2008 (UTC)

Thanks! —dima/talk/ 16:49, 24 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] For United Ukraine

Thanks for working with me on For United Ukraine. So Litvin, Kinak and Azarov are all old For United Ukraine-budies. Hmmmmmm, that explaines a lot for me..... Mariah-Yulia (talk) 03:59, 25 February 2008 (UTC)

You're welcome :) It'd be nice to get some images for the article.. perhaps some PoR election result maps? —dima/talk/ 04:17, 25 February 2008 (UTC)

I gave it it's own boxie with the party logo on it (from Ukrainian Wikipedia!). So that's 1 image! It seems that POR on it's own had 3 times more votes then United Ukraine so placing POR results there is a bit speculative...... Mariah-Yulia (talk) 23:04, 25 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Thanks and two questions

Privet Dima, cheers for the welcome :-)

I'll add both portals to my watchlist, but I'm just starting to learn Russian (and all I can say in Ukrainian is "tak"). I have to read it with a dictionary, one word at a time. Until I get better at the language, I won't be able to find references, so probably the best thing I can do is to concentrate on copyediting. Is there any specific page or list for that?

Another (unrelated) thing I'd like to ask you as an administrator - two days ago I reported a copyvio on Culture of Peru. I think I followed the instructions correctly, but so far nobody has dealt with the problem. Does it normally take a while, or have I done something wrong?

— FIRE! ^{in a crowded theatre...} 23:51, 1 March 2008 (UTC)

It's ok if you can't understand Russian so well.. more copyeditors are always appreciated. When I started on Wikipedia, I knew little of Ukrainian, but I learned more as I was on here..

As for the copyvio issue, you did everything correctly, it just sometimes takes more time for an administrator to notice, maybe because no administrator has the page watchlisted.. or because nobody was patrolling the copyright violation pages in the category.. I just removed the whole section with the violation just now.. Thanks for bringing it up.. —dima/talk/ 21:35, 3 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Copyright problems with Image:Ukrainian political crisis talks on May 25.jpg

Same problem with some other images, too. Lupo 10:07, 3 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] POTD notification

POTD

Hi Dima,

Just to let you know that the Featured Picture Image:Kamianets-Podilskyi map 1691.jpg is due to make an appearance as Picture of the Day on March 9, 2008. If you get a chance, you can check and improve the caption at Template:POTD/2008-03-09. howcheng {chat} 18:05, 3 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Copyright problems

Hey Dima, keep an eye on this page. A LOT of Ukraine-related images got tagged for deletion. What do you think we should do? — Alex Khristov 01:41, 4 March 2008 (UTC)

A large portion of those images are UA military-related, that I uploaded. Are works of the Ukrainian government, or in this case ministry of defense, really non-free? Bogdan ^що? 01:46, 4 March 2008 (UTC)

No idea. I think we need to start up a discussion about that. I can't say off-hand. — Alex Khristov 01:47, 4 March 2008 (UTC)

A discussion should defenetly be started in order to avoid future problems like this.. —dima/talk/ 05:07, 4 March 2008 (UTC)

• У мене було перед тим декілька обговорень на коммонз щодо {{PD-UA-exempt}}, як на моїй сторінці так і на сторінці Євгена Зеленка. Вони стосувались перш за все того чи підпадають під дію цього шаблону логотипи українських підприємств. На сторінці commons:User_talk:EugeneZelenko#Логотипы украинских предприятий я навів аргументи щодо того, що всі логотипи, незалежно чи вони комерційні чи ні є у суспільному надбанні згідно українського законодавства. Загалом, варто це обговорення було б завершити на Commons talk:Licensing, щоб не мати проблем у майбутньому із завантаженням цих зображень але мені для того, щоб змістовно це описати не вистачає знань англійської. Також серед проставлених на вилучення є декілька логотипів (напр. Image:Ut-1.gif, для них потрібно поміняти ліцензію PD-UA-exempt, бо fairuse там зайве. Я гадаю, що проблему із логотипами українських підприємств, у т.ч. спортивних клубів, комерційних підприємств, політичних партій і т.д. потрібно вирішити вже зараз, щоб проблем не виникало у майбутньому. Я не бачу абсолютно ніяких перешкод для їх завантаження як на коммонз так і на локальні вікіпедії. Що стосується фотографій на державних сайтах, то в мене нема ніяких ідей щодо цього. Моїх знань авторського права не вистачає ні для того, щоб сказати, чи вони є у суспільному надбанні чи ні. Я думаю, що незалежно від того, можна спробувати зв'язатись із Управлінням прес-служби МО України - http://www.mil.gov.ua для для надання дозволу на публікацію фото під певною ліцензією, бо я не знаю чи рядка на сайті "При використанні інформації посилання на Управління Прес-служби МО України обов’язкове" достатньо для публікації. --Yakudza (talk) 09:10, 4 March 2008 (UTC)

• Thanks for the information. As I understand it, images with "При використанні інформації посилання на Управління Прес-служби МО України обов’язкове" on the site can be used with the {{attribution}} template... as it requires proper attribution (I will try to e-mail some of these Ukrainian sites later to understand if they allow use of their materials on Wikipedia. —dima/talk/ 05:47, 6 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] No Gazprom

True democracy is integrity and rights for all people in all aspects of life.

Thanks, but I prefer to keep more neutral userboxes if at all.. Cheers, —dima/talk/ 05:49, 6 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Flag of UNR

Dima: Back in 2006 you created Image:Flag of UPR (22-03-19).PNG as the flag of the Ukrainian People's Republic adopted on March 22, 1918. Could you take another look over the issue. According to what I have learned, UPR adopted only a naval flag, and this flag was blue-yellow with COA, not yellow-blue. There are only rumors that yellow-blue was ever officially adopted. Please see Flag of Ukraine and uk:Прапор України, and the references cited there.

Fixing the problem is not so easy. Image:Flag of UNR.svg is now a part of Template:Country data Ukraine and is used in dozen of pages. But, first of all, I'd like to ask for your opinion on the official usage of yellow-blue vs. blue-yellow flag during 1917-1921. Best, Greggerr (talk) 07:29, 12 March 2008 (UTC)

Hi, Grreggerr. I don't know which flag was officially adopted, but I have seen both of them used. uarmy.com.ua says that the yellow-blue version of the flag was used, while others I have seen use the blue-yellow one.. To me, it makes no big difference, and either of them are fine for me.. I'll look into some Ukrainian history books I have right now (Orest Subtelny, etc.) and see what they come up with. —dima/talk/ 04:26, 13 March 2008 (UTC)

I agree. Both flags were used de-facto. It seems that the yellow-blue flag was widely used initially, without any formal decision, like the red flag used by Bolsheviks. On the other hand, the only official flag known to us is blue-yellow (as argued by M.Chmyr). In Wikipedia we may go with either flag. We may use yellow-blue based on prevailing usage, or blue-yellow based on the only official document available. Either way, we should be clear on what we are using and why. Best, Greggerr (talk) 07:27, 13 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Rusyns - why remove interwiki link?

Because it's rather about Ruthenians, isn't it? --Riwnodennyk ✉ 18:55, 16 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Any advice?

A while back, I added a photograph of Stadnyk and Yushchenko the third one from the left, see here. Here is what this picture looks like today Image:Leonidstadnykwithyushchenko.jpg. Under the same name, a different, likely unfree photograph has been uploaded, is there a way to reverse this and warn the user?--Riurik^(discuss) 19:17, 18 March 2008 (UTC)

Hi, Riurik, sorry for delay in responce.. I see that the image that was uploaded by the user is now deleted due to lack of licence information. If you want to re-upload the other image from the Presidential website, just use it under the fairuse licence with a non-free image rationale, because the president.gov.ua site now says "All rights reserved." which does not make it under the {{PD-UA-exempt}} licence.

I am on spring break right now, so I'll have much more time available for wiki, I'll start cleaning up the image problems with PD-UA-exempt soon. PS, would you care to help out with a draft I started of the Kamianets-Podilskyi Castle? Cheers, —dima/talk/ 20:34, 20 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Award

		Ukrainian National Award ‘The Order of Bohdan Khmelnytsky - 3rd degree’
		I hereby awarded you the Ukrainian National Award ‘The Order of Bohdan Khmelnytsky - 3rd degree’ for your enthusiasm and dedication to Ukrainian topics and doing all those small edits other Wikipidians overlook! - Mariah-Yulia (talk) 22:59, 20 March 2008 (UTC)

Thanks, a lot, Mariah-Yulia! Cheers, —dima/talk/ 01:04, 21 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] an Idea for a new award

I made a new award. You know there are some wikipedians (like me) who are a bit to bold (and orange...). As a warning/joke a sugest to give them this award:

		You are a Tymoshenko!
		You are hereby recognized as a Tymoshenko for your enthusiasm and dedication to Ukrainian topics but being a bit to bold end pushy sometimes, please don't loose touch with The Victors on Wikipedia!

I thought I asked yours an User:Irpen opinions about it first... It may be a bit to much?

PS sorry about the military task force thingy, I thought there would be a Ukrainian one, should have know that Ukrainians are to peacefull to have one :). I didn't mean to give you more work! I try to be more careful in future, but it seems so logic, living in Western Europe I'm so used to people thinking that Ukraine is still a part of Rusia :(. It's there fault :) I make such mistakes :) Mariah-Yulia (talk) 22:56, 23 March 2008 (UTC)

I think that is a bit too much.. :) That's nice for a joke, but let's not get into these political ideologies/preferences/support topics. Maybe we can tone it down a bit and remove the last part to make it more neutral..?

Its ok to make mistakes, everyone does.. As for a Ukrainian military task force, there's not that many Ukrainian Wikipedians who are on Wikipedia, and one project is quite enough.. Cheers, —dima/talk/ 04:19, 24 March 2008 (UTC)

I agree, it is easly understood wrong (as I found out on Irpen's usertalkpage...) and I decided not to use the award. Removing the last bit would be a improvment but it still could be seen as something else then a joke :). Wikipedia is a great tool to learn to work toghetter! I try to learn that from it! So thanks for the lessons! Mariah-Yulia (talk) 16:47, 24 March 2008 (UTC)

Yeah, I saw that... This is of course true, it's a great tool to work together.. You're welcome, and нема за що! —dima/talk/ 16:51, 24 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Tony silva

Found Tony silva in random article patrol. Should it be deleted or AfD'd? -WarthogDemon 03:08, 24 March 2008 (UTC)

Hi, WarthogDemon. In responce to your question, I would say neither. The subject appears notable, doing a quick google on him yields 20,400 results... I have added some refs and expanded the article a bit more.. See you around, —dima/talk/ 03:33, 24 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Dnepropetrovsk

Dima - I have found more stuff on the development of Dnepropetrovsk. Some of it is manufacturing and economic growth.

I have got two sorts of data. I have only got two data points for each right now, but more will probably come along some time. (I keep bumping into more population data.) What we need is a format for them, and it seemed a good idea to ask you if there is some standard way you want it, rather than me doing a load of stuff and you changing it because you know the right format and I am just groping for it.

I have also found some stuff on ethnic composition round about 1897 and 1904. Do you know of data for other dates?

--Toddy1 (talk) 22:37, 24 March 2008 (UTC) updated--Toddy1 (talk) 19:49, 25 March 2008 (UTC)

That looks pretty good, only we need to expand (and add) the respective sections (Economy and Demographics as well).. I have quite a lot of sources on the topic (history books, etc.) and I'll try to add some information as well.. —dima/talk/ 20:08, 25 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Request

Hi Dima. Could you please delete this image (Image:Image-South Korea Ukraine Locator.png)? I messed up and uploaded it by accident. Thanks in advance, Bogdan ^що? 20:00, 25 March 2008 (UTC)

Done. —dima/talk/ 20:08, 25 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Help with a question?

Please take a look at the little "tm" beside the term Big Mind in the Dennis Genpo Merzel article. Does that seem like it belongs? Thanks. House of Scandal (talk) 21:07, 26 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Nmate

Dear DDima, User:Nmate has just moved List of Slovaks to List of people from present-day Slovakia's territory. Could you do something please? I think Nmate's record of previous warnings ([3],[4],[5],[6],[7],[8],[9],[10],[11],[12],[13],[14],[15] ) justifies a block. Communication clearly does not work in this case. Tankred (talk) 18:06, 7 April 2008 (UTC)

See talk page of the article for extensive debate over this. Tankred has already been asked to post such reports on WP:AIV instead of cluttering personal talk pages with responses, corrections of misleading messages etc. but he still doesn't seem to understand. I ask again just like this morning: what to do when an editor reports others directly to an administrator on a personal talk page instead of using a noticeboard? Should others too comment here? Squash Racket (talk) 18:44, 7 April 2008 (UTC)

Administrators at AIV usually recommend ANI if a case is more complex than replacement of a page by "joe is great". ANI has been tried, but it did not curb Nmate's activities. Please also note Nmate's latest insult in an edit summary.[16] This is unacceptable. Tankred (talk) 22:45, 7 April 2008 (UTC)

If degrading, misleading edit summaries are unacceptable to you, why don't you ask a block for yourself? [17], [18], [19], [20], [21]. According to WP:VAN none of these edits constituted vandalism.

Once again I ask: if many administrators find a case inconclusive on a noticeboard, you will ask one administrator on his/her talk page to make a decision you like? Does this discussion belong here? Squash Racket (talk) 04:16, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

Tankred, try opening a Request for comment (where more people will come and comment on the issue) or other forms of mediation on the topic, seeing that its grown into more than just a couple of edit disputes on an topic. I don't think that I can help in any administrative actions and I still have yet to get more involved in the process, but I'll help with the mediation where needed.. —dima/talk/ 04:44, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

If you want to, there's a discussion at WP:ANI -- Ricky81682 (talk) 05:24, 9 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] I guess you live in Chicago, and love Moldavanka, Odessa

Since you corrected my Moldavanka article, I've made out such a consclusion.

• Anyway, my email is tramrunner229ATyahooDOTcom. Write me something. Look like I will have in Chicago, more friends then in NYC. Yet, I've never been there.

GK tramrunner (talk) 20:24, 11 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] RFA thanks

Thanks for your support in my RFA, that didn't quite make it and ended at 120/47/13. There was a ton of great advice there, that I'm going to go on. Maybe someday. If not, there are articles to write! Thanks for your support. Lawrence § t/e 18:04, 12 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Харьков

• Просьба, прежде чем править название нашего города Харьков, в котором лично Вы никогда не были, но зато прекрасно представляете, как его писать на английском, заглянуть хотя б в три-четыре словаря. Например, в Британнике написано Kharkiv or Kharkov. Нормы английского языка не определяются в Киеве или Москве или Вашей голове, иначе бы "по-государственному" на английском было именно Moskva, а на русском Ландон. С уважением, уважаемый украинский админ.--194.44.82.211 (talk) 09:20, 17 April 2008 (UTC)
  • Вот абсолютно все ссылки, приведенные в вики (современные самые главные сайты), самого города:

General

• citynet.kharkov.ua — Official website of Kharkov City Information Center
• city.kharkov.ua — Official website of Kharkov City Council (Ukrainian)/(Russian)
• Kharkov city portal (Russian)
• Your beloved Kharkov — Kharkov city portal
• gortransport.kharkov.ua — Transport in Kharkov (Russian)
• Old Kharkov Gallery — Photos and postcards
• Forum Kharkov City — Forum Kharkov City

Maps

• karta.kharkov.ua — Interactive Map--Vizu 21:52, 28 January 2008 (UTC)

• • Вот ссылки, приведенные в ру-вики, самого города, из всех есть один адрес "Харкайв" (и тот не города, а области):
• http://region.library.kharkov.ua/lit_kharkov.php?year=2001&part=01 оф. сайт гос. б-ки Короленко; Литература о Харьковщине
• http://kharkov.nezabarom.com.ua Городской портал
• http://www.kharkovforum.com Харьковский форум
• http://www.kharkov.ua/culture/2.html Харьков. История и архитектура
• http://www.kharkov.com/news/?p=165 Памятники архитектуры Харькова
• http://www.shops.kharkov.ua/ktinfo.php?info=galkh Галерея «Старый Харьков». Фотографии, открытки, рисунки
• http://5nizza.kharkov.ua Харьковский общественный юмористический еженедельник
• http://tourist.kharkov.ua/map/ Карты и планы города, современные и старинные
• http://prokharkov.com/ Харьков
• http://gorod.kharkov.ua/ Город Харьков
• http://www.city.kharkov.ua/ Официальный сайт Харьковского городского совета
• http://www.kharkivoda.gov.ua Официальный сайт Харьковской областной администрации - это не город, область; глава Арсен Аваков, назначен губернатором области лично Виктором Ющенко; его племянник Ярослав Ющенко - зам. Авакова по экономике Харьковской области
• http://www.pravoslavie.kharkov.ua/index.php Официальный сайт Харьковской и Богодуховской епархии Православной Церкви
• http://www.old.itl.net.ua/kharkov/history
• http://kharkov.vbelous.net/ Сайт Добро пожаловать в Харьков
• http://fotobank.vecherniy.kharkov.ua/ Фоторепортажи событий в Харькове
• http://fotobank.mediaport.info/ События Харькова в фотографиях
• http://gortransport.kharkov.ua/ Харьков Транспортный — про общественный транспорт города
• http://all.kharkov.ua/ Портал «Весь Харьков»
• http://www.toshka.ru/geo/ukrreg/kharkov/kharkov.html Харьковщина: краткая информация по региону и городу
• http://www.kharkovforum.com/ Неофициальный форум города Харькова
• http://mykharkov.org.ua/ информационно-справочный портал «Мой Харьков»
• http://tourist.kharkov.ua/ Харьковский Турист--80.249.229.48 (talk) 14:35, 18 April 2008 (UTC)

Я - за название "Kharkov", в противном случае будет слишком много противостояний. Канопус Киля 21:38, 29 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] FYI

I moved the shuliavka article from april 20 to april 19 sub-heading under wp:dyk, to conform to its creation date.--Riurik^(discuss) 02:58, 22 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] request

Can you look at this, then delete the article? Thanks, Ostap 05:17, 22 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] WikiProject Christianity

Hello DDima!

You are cordially invited to participate in WikiProject Christianity The goal of WikiProject Christianity is to improve the quality and quantity of information about Christianity available on Wikipedia. WP:X as a group does not prefer any particular tradition or denominination of Christianity, but prefers that all Christian traditions are fairly and accurately represented.

You are receiving this invitation because you are a member of one of the related Christianity Projects and I thought that you might be interested in this project also - Tinucherian (talk) 14:44, 23 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] DYK

On 24 April 2008, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Shuliavka Republic, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

[edit] Happy Easter!

Mykola Pymonenko, "Easter morning prayer in Little Russia", 1891, Oil on canvas, 133x193 cm, Rybinsk Museum-Preserve of History, Architecture and Art, Rybinsk, Russia.

Happy Easter from the homeland! --Irpen 08:04, 29 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Your job

You are an admin now you know what to do. BTW what do you think of this: [22]. Want me to make a start on the Dormition Cathedral? --Kuban Cossack 11:51, 3 May 2008 (UTC)

Sorry, I couldn't help out, I didn't check wiki for the past couple of days (testing, etc.) Hopefully, these edit wars won't go on after his block, they are nothing more than a waste of time and nerves for all.

I think it's time to start the cathedral page. It's a big missing chunk in the Lavra section and needs to be written. Let's start in soon. —dima/talk/ 23:04, 4 May 2008 (UTC)

• Some Nacionalists no keep adding Cities in English language and writing in Ukrainian lang. See English Dictionary and this. --80.249.229.48 (talk) 17:31, 7 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Dzyhivka

Dima, Two questions for you: 1. Can you please look at this page and advise about whether or not there is an anecdote there and if it's appropriate? Dzyhivka 2. Also, since you edit both English and Ukrainian pages, on the Ukrainian page I keep adding a link to the English page and they keep deleting it. Why is that? On English pages, we add foreign language links all the time with no problem. Thank you. USchick (talk) 22:09, 7 May 2008 (UTC)

If you look at the Ukrainian page at the left site of the page there is already a link to the English page, so there deleting double links. (I'm saving Dima a bit of time :) hope you don't mind Dima) Mariah-Yulia (talk) 22:18, 7 May 2008 (UTC)

Hi, USchick. The text as it is on Dzyhivka isn't appropriate for such a large encyclopedia like Wikipedia because it's such a small minor detail in an article about a village. The text would probably be more appropriate for a small local wiki of some kind or Wikitravel, which includes a lot of such information. If you have any more questions, I'll be glad to help out, —dima/talk/ 23:01, 8 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Victory!

Happy Victory Day! Mariah-Yulia (talk) 15:41, 9 May 2008 (UTC)

Thanks Mariah-Yulia! —dima/talk/ 05:21, 11 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Please stop adding Ukrainian cities in Russian!

Ukraine is not Russia, and Russian is not official language in Ukraine. I see that you (Russians) don't add in Russian Latvian or Estonian cities, even though there are more Russian than in Ukraine. Please stop do this! Ones again, Ukraine is not Russia, and Russian is not official language in Ukraine!

I gave this disruptive IP a final warning on his talk page during his last attack visit, you are an admin, I need not tell you what to do.

On a separate note what is your take on aviation? this comes to mind. I'll be very surprised if you never been there!

--Kuban Cossack 15:20, 15 May 2008 (UTC)

Will respond at the next such situation.

On the museum, I haven't ever really been to that part of the city and the museum (except on a trip to the airport.. some time ago :) We'll have to start on it later on.. Btw let's start on the Uspensky Cathedral soon; I now have more time on my hands and will be able to contribute more. —dima/talk/ 04:46, 16 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] RfA thanks!

		RfA: Many thanks
		Many thanks for your participation in my recent request for adminship. I am impressed by the amount of thought that goes into people's contribution to the RfA process, and humbled that so many have chosen to trust me with this new responsibility. I step into this new role cautiously, but will do my very best to live up to your kind words and expectations, and to further the project of the encyclopedia. Again, thank you. --jbmurray (talk • contribs) 06:17, 18 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Template:United Kingdom cities

Hello there. It would mean a lot to me if you could help make an argument on the talk of the city template of the United Kingdom. I know that you are interested in the way these templates work and are interested in keeping them (to some extent) standard. Please make an argument on Template talk:United Kingdom cities#Consensus if you are intended on keeping some standards here. Please make a statement here and thank you very much. — NuclearVacuum 18:09, 18 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Hetmanate

I know I can do this, but you are now an admin, and I think you will not refuse this:

• Move Hetmanate to Ukrainian State (1918) or the like.
• Move Cossack Hetmanate to Hetmanate.
• Create a disambig.

Seriously the 16th century Hetmanate rightfully deserves to carry that name, and not a short lived republic which officially was known as Derzhava. --Kuban Cossack 15:12, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] edits

Hi DDima, I have been trying to edit things today, and it seems all that I tried to do have been reverted. especially by 2 users, seems they are just looking through my sandbox, and reverting all my contributions. Most evident on articles of Micheal Kuss, Chris Potter, and Nelson Chan

can you help with some of these articles, and help protect these articles?

Thanks —Preceding unsigned comment added by Oingoboing69 (talk • contribs) 23:33, 21 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Some congratulatory remarks

Triumphant and rather bitching one. Also a personal gratitude to this fellow for deleting 60% of Kiev Metro's images including the unique 1960s shots. If I re-upload them as fair use, will you back me up to ensure that no turd kakashka will touch them. (Criterion 1 will be satisfied, one can't re-create the 1960s right?) --Kuban Cossack 18:45, 23 May 2008 (UTC)

Nice that another station opened, but too bad that I won't be in Kiev this year to see it :( Of course I'll help out with the images, but in a week or so because I have some off-wiki work to do.. —dima/talk/ 21:58, 24 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] request

Pryvit Dima! Do you understand how to use all of the wiki formating to make templates? If yes, can you please recreate the templates: {{Fs start}} {{Fs player}} {{Fs mid}} {{Fs end}} to the Ukrainian language wikipedia?

Never mind. Thank anyways!--Boguslav (talk) 03:18, 1 June 2008 (UTC)

Sorry, I didn't start on it earlier.. was going to get started on it soon. Anyway, seeing that you're from Kamianets by your ua-wiki userpage, would you like to help out in writing Kamianets-Podilskyi Castle in my sandbox? I have started the page quite a while ago, but can never get around to finishing it up.. —dima/talk/ 03:34, 1 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] 6/1 DYK

On 1 June 2008, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Florida Tropical House, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

[edit] Ukrainians of Brazil article help

I've left this message for a few others but thought you might help. Awhile ago, inspired by a personal mood or interest, I did a lot of research and with it created an article about Ukrainians of Brazil. Since then someone has added a list prominant "Ukrainians", almost all of whom were actually non-Ukrainians (mostly Jewish emigres, with a Russian one also, none of whom self-identified as Ukrainians). Because this detracted from the article I removed those people. This prompted an edit war, smears of me being a Nazi, etc. because apparently some Brazilian editors feel that every single person born in Ukraine must be a Ukrainian and it is racist to state otherwise. I provided examples of other non-Ukrainians from Ukraine such as Ukrainian-born Trotsky or Mikhail Bulgakov to no avail. I provided sources (Subtleny and Magosci) that meet wikpedia standards of reliability showing that shtetl dwellers didn't consider themselves Ukrainians and kept apart form them. That didn't help. I asked the other side to refrain from making edits without a source backing up their claim - more abuse. According to Opinoso (talk), the editor who has already been blocked for abuse and who has already been waned on this article, mine is a "19th century Nazi view" [23]. Every one of my edits on that article was sourced and it's still being reverted based on opinion. I'm starting to get frustrated. Perhaps another Eastern-European voice would be helpful? Thank you for your time.Faustian (talk) 04:28, 1 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Please have a look

If you could spread this to interested users participating on English Wikipedia:

1. Discussion of Deletion of Template:Romanian historical regions[24]
2. Discussion of renaming ro.wikipedia.org into mo-ro.wikipedia.org[25]

Thank you in advance if you can repost the message where it belongs for interested users speaking English--Moldopodo^talk 13:09, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] template request

Hi Dima. We've got a user who writes great articles about shipbuilding facilities in Ukraine. Please take a look at User_talk:Irpen#Ukrainian_Shipbuilding for his request for help. Could you look at his contributions and make a navigational template for articles he wrote? Thanks, --Irpen 02:39, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

Hi, I'll try to draft one up soon.. Some of these articles could be made into DYKs if it's not too late i.e. Black Sea Shipyard.. let's try and nominate some. Cheers, —dima/talk/ 11:36, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

Done, {{Ukrainian shipbuilders}}. —dima/talk/ 20:46, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

Thank you.. it looks great! and thanks for the words of encouragement! ~ chiefhuggybear (talk) 20:50, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

You're welcome :) —dima/talk/ 21:09, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Need help with spellings

Hello and Help -- I am confused. Since I am so new, you're only one of two editors that I know who can speak Ukrainian and Russian. I am having a heck of a time keeping transliterations consistent because all of the different sources I've been using in this Black Sea Shipyard article. For example, there are different variants of Nikolaev (Nikolayev) and Inhul (Ingul) river.

The article has a LONG way to go but if you have time, I'd really appreciate it if you helped me correct some of these. Then based on your fixes, I will continue to use those spellings.

I apologize for asking you directly on your personal talk page but is there a better place to request this kind of langauge assistance next time? Ukranian portal?

chiefhuggybear (talk) 19:09, 9 June 2008 (UTC)

The way it is that Mykolaiv (or Mykolayiv) is the Ukrainian variant of the name while Nikolayev (or Nikolaev) is the Russian variant. It's the same case with the Inhul/Ingul; the former is Ukrainian while the latter—Russian. The reason why there are different variants of the names is the method of Romanization of Ukrainian/Russian (there's a table with differences in romanization in the article..)

Here on Wikipedia, in naming the article, we refer to the Manual of Style and Naming conventions pages, which is why the article is titled Mykolaiv (in the article's text, I generally use the name which is the articles' title, i.e. if the article is titled Kiev I'll use Kiev in the text)

Feel free to ask me anytime on my talk page. Another place where you can leave a message so that all Ukraine-Wikipedia uses can see it is at the Ukrainian notice board and the new article announcements page (both divisions of the portal). —dima/talk/ 20:37, 9 June 2008 (UTC)

Thank you so much for the information. I just wanted to make sure I am consistent :-) Also, thank for you telling me about the other resources. I will definitely have more questions which I will post on the Ukraine portal as I continue what I have dubbed "my Ukraine shipbuilding project" ( Спасибо. Вождь "Хуги" Медведь ) (Did I do that right? :-) "Huggy" or "Chief" doesn't quite translate with the same humorous overtone ;-) chiefhuggybear (talk) 21:28, 9 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Kharkiv

Please semi-protect the article for the time being, this attack by IP #68 is going on for a month now, consider also some disciplinary action against him, he was warned repeatedly. --Kuban Cossack 13:05, 10 June 2008 (UTC)