User talk:Mariah-Yulia

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[edit] Bias editing on Party of Region's article

There is notable bias in your editing of this page most notably the selective publication of partial information distorting statistical information and facts.

The Party of Regions had increased their percentage of the vote in 2007. The number of people overall participating in the election was less then in 2006. It is false and misleading to make a comparison and claim that the parties vote was less the before whilst selectively leaving out other facts of information. The following charts show this to be a fact.

If you also look more closely at the results will will noticed that there was a consolidation of Yulia Tymoshenko's vote at the expense of the Socialist Party ad our Ukraine. In fact Our Ukraine lost significantly more votes then Party of Regions but the editors have not mentioned that fact on Our Ukraine's page. Anyone can present a statistic that is not not balanced by real facts or proper statical comparison. Such selective bias editing brings wikipedia into disrepute. Wikipedia is not a partisan pro-Ukrainian Presidential publication. DemocracyWorks (talk) 08:08, 28 February 2008 (UTC)

OK your right and I apoligize. My dislike of POR got in the way..... Mariah-Yulia (talk) 17:47, 28 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] NATO Action Plan

Having made false allegations in the past and engaged the services of a corrupt administrator ...Now they want to spunge from history the facts and knowledge of Ukraine's lastest Politcial crisis and the resigation of over 10% of the president's polical parliamentary faction. Of course applying for consideration to be a member of the Action Plan is about membership of NATO... I guess the application form is not actual membership. Under their thiking I guess also being in a trianing camp for terrorist is not the same as being an actual terrorist. LOL LOL All the best.

I got the feeling Yulia just wants the money that members of the Action Plan get Mariah-Yulia (talk) 22:02, 1 March 2008 (UTC)

I didn't ask for help (for the article) either. You might be paranoid :) Mariah-Yulia (talk) 23:33, 1 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] User Boxes

Here are some user boxes you might like to add to your user page :)

Location This user supports Parliamentary democracy as opposed to Presidential dictatorships. This user lives in Ukraine. ru:Шаблон:Участник из Украины uk:Шаблон:Користувач з України

My Interests This user is interested in elections.

Politics This user supports Parliamentary democracy as opposed to Presidential dictatorships. This user is pro-Ukraine This user is pro-Russia This user is pro-CIS Countries This user supports the integration of Ukraine in the European Union This user supports economic and cultural ties between Ukraine and Russia This user supports economic and cultural ties between Ukraine and Sweden This user supports economic and cultural ties between Ukraine and the European Union User:Kat No Pro-West Stereotype This user opposes Ukraine's membership of NATO This user opposes NATO This user supports a European Security Organization without the USA This User opposes Direct election of Head of States! This user supports Preferential Voting as opposed to First-past-the-post.

Thanks, but I only support 10 of them..... Mariah-Yulia (talk) 22:10, 1 March 2008 (UTC)

Which ten?: What about these?

[edit] More user boxes

and these...

Politcal Support This user likes Ukraine and all it's citizens (except it's head of state)! This user supports inititatives made by the Party of Regions in Ukraine This user supports inititatives made by the Bloc Yulia Tymoshenko in Ukranie This user does not support inititates made by the Our Ukraine - Peoples Self Defence movement in Ukranie This user supports limited inititatives made by the Communist Party of Ukraine This user supports iinititatives made by the Bloc Lytvyn in Ukranie This user supports inititatives made by the Socialist party of Ukraine and its Leader Olexandr Moroz This user supports the development of Ukranie's Parliamentary Democracy

[edit] Articles for deletion/2008 Ukrainian political crisis

Hi! You deleted the anonymous "keep" vote at Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/2008_Ukrainian_political_crisis&diff=195389737&oldid=195383264. Did you mean to do that? It seems unethical to delete other people's votes, so I think it was a mistake and you would want to know so that you can reinstate it. -- Timberframe (talk) 20:38, 2 March 2008 (UTC)

It wasn't anonymous, it was part of the talk page copied to there. It where comments by me :) , but I changed my mind since then. Look at talk:2008 Ukrainian political crisis to check! Mariah-Yulia (talk) 20:52, 2 March 2008 (UTC)

Check the diff at [1] - you deleted "*Keep Is was blocked on Feb. 5 the other issue is tyhe mass resignation of members from the President's party Our Ukraine. Attemps top delete this article is further examples of selective sensorship which brings Wikipedia into distrpute" as well as your comments. -- Timberframe (talk) 20:58, 2 March 2008 (UTC)

Ooops. You are right (my mistake). I restored it already. Mariah-Yulia (talk) 21:09, 2 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Thanks

Thanks for finishing my job at Template:Politics of Ukraine your version looks (even better) then mine! Razom Nas Bahato! Mariah-Yulia (talk) 23:48, 2 March 2008 (UTC)

Thanks, glad you liked what I've done to it. :-) — Alex Khristov 23:50, 2 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] No gas leaks any more

I agree I think the gas crisis should be withheld for the time being == Thanks. I have a Yulia Tymoshenko scarf given to me when I attended her very very very long speech during the 2006 election campiagn. I was going to burn it BUT I would be pleased to forward to you.Kurtdaydo (talk) 23:42, 5 March 2008 (UTC).

I would love to get it from you :). But don't know where you life. I life in the netherlands (surprised? :) ), so it could be quite expensive for you to send it to western europe... (I did get a Kyiv calender from a vriend in Kyiv so the Ukraine mail does work properly :). I will probabley go to Ukraine on summer holiday (but I dont know if I go to your town, I don't even know in what town you life....) I'm very curious where you life anyhowe :) Mariah-Yulia (talk) 15:57, 6 March 2008 (UTC).

[edit] Re:Tina Karol

Hi Mariah-Yulia! Thanks for your comments. I got kind of busy at the Ukrainian Wiki, that's why I didn't answer earlier. Well, I don't live in Ukraine either (haven't for quite a few years...) and I am not really an expert at Ukrainian music, especially pop - Ruslana, Okean Elzy & VV are the only ones I know well. I edited those articles because first of all I want to help make articles on Ukraine-related subjects more comprehensive, especially those which are more or less known to the Western world (that is, folks may search for them). I'll be sure to find out more about Tina Karol and her studies! Also, I think that the article on Ruslana needs to be improved. (I remember someone posted there stuff about her that I wrote, actually translated from Ukr, especially for a fan site where it was later published. It was really funny to find it later in the Wiki article! But the article was considerably reduced since then because it came out too large...) Anyway, I'll try to do my best, and feel free to contact me if you need translation from Ukr or so. And may I add, your user page is awesome ;) Cheers! --Betty kerner (talk) 23:00, 7 March 2008 (UTC)

Hello Betty! Thanks for your answer! Your reasons for editing about Ukrainian subjects is the same as mine :) Mabey it would be a good idea to create a wikipage called: Ruslana discography (more pages like that excist (see: New Order discography. I live and was born in the netherlands and have never heard of Okean Elzy & VV......

You know little about Ukraine. They are one of the most famous groups in Ukraine. I have had the pleasure of meeting them twice. Once in Ylata and once in Lvov Kurtdaydo (talk) 01:01, 8 March 2008 (UTC)

If you want I can insert the these colours in your user page, basicly I just copied my layout from other Wikipedians so feel free to copy my! Thanks for the compliment! And your help, I'm trying to learn Ukrainian but progres is slow......... PS it's suprising I always get so wel along with Ukrainian woman. I'm a man and I am glad there are some woman now editing on Ukrainian subject, as far as I know you are the only one.... Mariah-Yulia (talk) 23:28, 7 March 2008 (UTC)

Hey Mariah-Yulia, how are you? Sorry, I have been away for so long and didn't do anything for the Project Ukraine. The main reason is that I figured that English wiki alreasy has loads of high quality articles and contributors... which I wouldn't say about the Ukrainian Wiki. So I decided to concentrate on working on it instead. We just passed the 100k+ articles mark, by the way :) But there are loads of stubs, it all deperately needs improvement. Have you heard the news about NATO & Ukraine & Georgia? I'm a bit confused. today so many Russians vandalized Ukr Wikipedia, ha ha, they were angry, and so nasty, seems like the dicision about Ukraine and NATO pissed them off since they took all that trouble writing so much crap & screwing up pages. Anyway, I'll be sure to get back & participate in the project as much as I can! Contact me any time at all! Cheers! P.S. I was surprised that you're a man - first, this nickname, (even tho I know these are the names of your favorite women), and also you seemed too passionate, more like a woman than a guy LOL! Okay, it's not a personal forum so I should stop until they put me down. Just a question: are you familiar with Fofudja? If you spoke Russian/Ukrainian you'd get a kick of it!--Betty kerner (talk) 00:40, 4 April 2008 (UTC)

Sorry for late reaction, I've been on a short wikibreak... I would like to get to know you better :). Can we exchange e-mails or MSN? (See head of this talkpage)

Hallo Mariah-Yulia! For some reasons I can't email you - this email function don't work =/ I don't know what's wrong with it. they send me a link to activate this function, but it doesn't work. And I don't have MSN... maybe there are any other options? By the way, it seems like Tina Karol is indeed still attenting the university, I'll be sure to finally find sources... Been busy at Ukr wiki, got involved in disputes :) --Betty kerner (talk) 18:46, 21 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Thanks!

Thanks a lot. BTW, there is also a Ukrainian Order of St. Nicholas. I feel guilty that you beat me in awarding today. I was about to post an award to you. Now I will have to wait a little :). For now, just accept my thanks for your enthusiasm and dedication. --Irpen 23:11, 20 March 2008 (UTC)

Your welcome! Mariah-Yulia (talk) 23:13, 20 March 2008 (UTC)

Hi, thanks for your proposal. I have no problem with your being "too Orange" or too anything. I try to be moderate but this is a matter of personal choice. If I may, I would like to mention another part, of your self-description. You say you are "too bold". Not really. I think you just may be a little to passionate :)

If I remember correctly, our first encounter was the Sikorsky article. Your contributions are greatly appreciated. If I may give you an advice, please think a little about the "too passionate" part.

As for your proposal, while I appreciate her for a lot of things, it is best (IMO) to keep the userspace out of politics (including both Vityas as well.) There are even policies about this somewhere out there (not strictly enforced, though.) People use their userspace to campaign for a lot of things, from the clean environment to partitioning the particular countries. At one time I almost decided to put an Orange Ribbon on my page but in the end, I thought to better keep it clear. There are ways to campaign for change and the Wikipedia should not be one of them. Wikipedia, should be reflective rather than promotive. --Irpen 05:08, 24 March 2008 (UTC)

I will keep your thoughts in mind. I decided not to use the award your DDima's advice and the reaction from that dude from Gorki on your userpage (stil think it was none of his bussiness, I don't tell the people of Project Russia what kind of awards they should give, if the want to start giving Putin awards that's fine with me...) gave me the impression that I was understood wrongly. The award was first mend as a joke! Because I have learned to be carefyull with humor I decided to ask advice first.... Wikipedia is a great tool to learn to work toghetter! I try to learn that from it! So thanks for the lessons! Mariah-Yulia (talk) 16:42, 24 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Thanks for the award!

Many thanks for the award! I will continue to work on Ukrainian subjects wherever I have knowledge and illustrations! The latter I think is important to any article! Narking (talk) 18:26, 23 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Congratulations

Just wanted to congratulate you on your magnificent insight and power to predict things. You are prophetically right, generally I don't listen to people who off-hand think of me as evil. Never mind me, I don't listen anyway... --Hillock65 (talk) 02:37, 26 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Євпаторія = Yevpatoriya

Дуже, дуже дякую за допомогу!
But how long will I have to wait until I may be allowed to do the 'right' thing, that is moving this article with a correct title? ^[1] ✓ Kanġi Oĥanko (talk) 23:31, 30 March 2008 (UTC)

1. ^ Until now, when asking such questions properly, i.e., putting them on the talk page, the best result I got was… nothing at all. And, when I look all around here, if you act, even when following the guidelines, you take some risks.

Well you have some good arguments to proof that google is misleading! So I don't think there is not much risk here. Usually problems with renaming cities on Wikipedia occur when Russian names are replaced by Ukrainian (see Talk:Kiev ore Talk:Kharkiv) Evpatoria doesn't seem to have that problem.... The main argument not renaming Kiev to Kyiv is always that foreigners have used the name Kiev for so long. Once again Evpatoria doesn't seem to have that problem cause it's not that famous :). I don't know what is best to do on Wikipedia (I made some mistakes here too). User:Irpen gave me the best advice how to edit on wikipedia: Dont be too passionate (see:User talk:Mariah-Yulia#Thanks!). Maybe it's best to wait until a week passes since your request (to rename the article)! Then nobody can accuse you of bad faith or being reckless. Дякую i до побачення. P.S. My Ukrainian is awful (I'm from the netherlands) I'm thinking of going to Kyiv this summer to learn the language! Mariah-Yulia (talk) 00:34, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] racism and discriminiation

Here is some good links under the "Human Rights" section for racism and discrimination: [2]. The links are for Amnesty International Report and Freedom House and so on. Not sure if you have seen them already, but they are pretty interesting. The other links look pretty good too. Enjoy! Ostap 17:29, 17 April 2008 (UTC)

Thanks, that looks interesting! Mariah-Yulia (talk) 20:15, 17 April 2008 (UTC)

Great work with that article by the way. Ostap 23:28, 17 April 2008 (UTC)

Thanks, for obvious reasons I don't want to see BYuT linked with a neo-nazi group. But UNA-UNSO website is pretty shady...... Mariah-Yulia (talk) 23:39, 17 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] photos

I agree that either Tymoshenko or Yushchenko should be put in the image. You might want to restart the discussion to see what others think... Ostap 00:09, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

I restarted the discusion where it stoped the last time. From an international point of view, who is more known worldwide Tymoshenko or Yushchenko? It used to be Yushchenko, but I'm not sure now, besides with Yulia Tymoshenko there would be two woman in the picture. Mariah-Yulia (talk) 00:42, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

PS User:M.V.E.i. who "suported" Nestor Makhno the most is blocked for a year.

[edit] FYI

Russia-Ukraine relations was recently created. It is just waiting for you. Ostap 03:55, 22 May 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for the warning, but I don't have much time now... I'm doing a project with my bff from Yevpatoria (you see it can work :) ) and I don't want to ruin that by investing to much time in a possible edit war. Article looks fine, but tells nothing.... I hope Lvov instead of Lviv was an accident.... I prefer to call Kharkov by it's Russian name cause the inhabitants of Kharkov use that name too. Will try to update page when I have time again. Mariah-Yulia (talk) 18:41, 22 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Kyiv elections

I give you this Ukraine Barnstar for improving Kyiv mayoral election, 2008‎, and for creating those nice looking result tables.

I was thinking, do we even need to keep the "polls" section? We have the results so the polls are pretty much meaningless, right? Ostap 06:30, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

Second that. Thanks a lot Mariah-Yulia for taking the time to update the article, I totally forgot about it.. (who wouldn't with those results, eh?) Actually, I believe the whole article could be moved to Kiev local election, 2008 so as to give the election to the Kiev City Council fair coverage like the elections for the mayor.. Thanks again, —dima/talk/ 21:41, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

Thanks Ostap! Thanks DDima! I think we should keep the polls cause there so different then the results (probable has to do something cause the low turnout...) I could do more with the article but with those results.... I lack the will..... moveing it to Kiev local election, 2008 is a good idea! Mariah-Yulia (talk) 20:49, 5 June 2008 (UTC)