Wikipedia:Copyright problems/2008 March 3/Images
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- Image:Deltacoach.jpg (history · last edit) from [1] ANDROS1337 00:30, 3 March 2008 (UTC)
- Image:OaklandHills.png (history · last edit) from [2]. 130.13.170.1 (talk) 05:45, 3 March 2008 (UTC)
- A number of photographs tagged as {{PD-UA-exempt}}. This tag does in general not apply to photos. The "governmental exception" is only for "official documents of a political, legislative or administrative nature (laws, decrees, resolutions, court awards, State standards, etc.) issued by government authorities within their powers, and official translations thereof". See also :commons:User talk:Yakudza.
- Image:24th Mech training.jpg
- Direct work of the Ukrainian government.
- Irrelevant. It's not a "law, decree, resolution, court award, state standard, etc.", i.e., not an "official documents of a political, legislative or administrative nature". And the same goes for all the rest where someone added "work of the government" or "state-owned enterprise". These just do not fall under that exemption. Lupo 20:14, 3 March 2008 (UTC)
- Very relevant. Read the whole template. — Alex Khristov 04:59, 4 March 2008 (UTC)
- I did. Why do you think it applied? Lupo 07:50, 4 March 2008 (UTC)
- From the http://www.mil.gov.ua: © Управління Прес-служби МО України/© MOD Ukraine --EugeneZelenko (talk) 14:55, 4 March 2008 (UTC)
- I think this whole {{PD-UA-exempt}} section needs to be split off, because all of the images listed here can be keopt under one license or another. I'm just a bit annoyed at copyrights, pardon my frustration. — Alex Khristov 21:18, 8 March 2008 (UTC)
- I disagree. All of them (except maybe the enterprise logos) are copyrighted, and are not under any free license. At the utmost, they could be kept under some "fair use" claims. Each image would need a separate claim for each use, and all would need to give a detailed rationale. Lupo 10:41, 10 March 2008 (UTC)
- I think this whole {{PD-UA-exempt}} section needs to be split off, because all of the images listed here can be keopt under one license or another. I'm just a bit annoyed at copyrights, pardon my frustration. — Alex Khristov 21:18, 8 March 2008 (UTC)
- Very relevant. Read the whole template. — Alex Khristov 04:59, 4 March 2008 (UTC)
- Irrelevant. It's not a "law, decree, resolution, court award, state standard, etc.", i.e., not an "official documents of a political, legislative or administrative nature". And the same goes for all the rest where someone added "work of the government" or "state-owned enterprise". These just do not fall under that exemption. Lupo 20:14, 3 March 2008 (UTC)
- Direct work of the Ukrainian government.
- Image:24th Mech training2.jpg
- Direct work of the Ukrainian government.
- Image:Aviasvit buk ukr.jpg (no precise source, either)
- Likely to have been featured on the Ministry of Denfence's 'news' section. Which is not archived.
Image:BorysTarasyuk.jpgnot PD but FU alleged, tagged for no license and no rationale. - KrakatoaKatie 04:37, 1 April 2008 (UTC)- Image:Btr3u.jpg (source site claims copyright, too)
- The source is a state-owned enterprise
- Image:Cabinet of Ministers of Ukraine.jpg
- Image:Chornobyl Luhansk.jpg
- Image:24th Mech training.jpg
- Image ok to use if not with the pd-ua-exempt license then with "attribution" as per source instructions at the bottom of the page.--Riurik(discuss) 03:55, 19 March 2008 (UTC)
- They say "If you use materials from this site, you must link to http://www.oda.lg.ua", right? And they claim © Looks more like a standard "fair use with source attribution" permission, unless you can find a clear statement somewhere that "use" includes "redistribution, derivative work, commercial use, and all other uses". May I re-sell the image? Print postcards from it and sell those? Crop it? Print postcards from the cropped version and sell them? Lupo 12:13, 20 March 2008 (UTC)
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- Image:Constitutional Court of Ukraine.jpg
- Image:Ivan Dombrovskyy (official portrait).jpg
- Image:Ivan Plyushch.jpg (source?)
- Image:Leonid Kuchma 2004.jpg (no source either)
- Image:Leonid Kuchma Presidential Photo.jpg
Image:LesyaUkrainka.jpg (no source)- {{PD-old}} claim, but tagged for no source regardless. KrakatoaKatie 04:37, 1 April 2008 (UTC)Image:Lytvyn standing.jpg (no source)tagged no source. KrakatoaKatie 04:37, 1 April 2008 (UTC)- Image:Minister Lutsenko April7 2005.jpg (no source either)
- Image:Mvspersonnel.jpg
- Image:OU-PSD.jpg (party logo is not a state symbol)
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- This is "symbols and signs of enterprises, institutions and organizations;" (see {{PD-UA-exempt}} --Yakudza (talk) 09:21, 4 March 2008 (UTC)
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Image:Oleksandr Moroz Nemyriv.jpg(does not qualify under "news reporting" section; that is also in the Berne Convention and applies only to strictly factual text accounts, but never to photographs, since photos always involve judgments by the photographer (angle, lighting, etc.))
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- Image:PresidentYushchenko off photo01.jpg (no source either)
- Image:Raisa Bogatyryova.jpg (also tagged {{attribution}}, but no source and no evidence that that tag were correctly applied)
- Image:Shevchenko Luhansk.jpg
- Image:Svyatoslav Piskun.jpg
- Image:T-55AGM 2.jpg (and source site claims copyright)
- The source is a state-owned enterprise
- Image:T-55AGM 3.jpg (and source site claims copyright)
- The source is a state-owned enterprise
- Image:T-55AGM 4.jpg (and source site claims copyright)
- The source is a state-owned enterprise
- Image:T-55AGM 5.jpg (and source site claims copyright)
- The source is a state-owned enterprise
- Image:T-55AGM 6.jpg (and source site claims copyright)
- The source is a state-owned enterprise
- Image:T-55AGM.jpg (and source site claims copyright)
- The source is a state-owned enterprise
- Image:T-72ag.jpg (and source site claims copyright)
- The source is a state-owned enterprise
- Image:T-84 tank.jpg (no useable source either)
- Image:T64bm.jpg
- Direct work of the Ukrainian government.
- Image:Tisa1.jpg (logo of a TV station)
- Image:Ukr Rus bel exercise.jpg
- Direct work of the Ukrainian government (National Radio Company of Ukraine).
- Image:Ukr af an12.jpg
- Not used in any article (delete).
- Image:Ukr af base.jpg (even has a copyright notice on the image!)
- Not used in any article (delete).
- Image:Ukr af base2.jpg
- Not used in any article (delete).
- Image:Ukr fort12.jpg (from a Russian website, not a UA gov work anyway)
- Image:Ukr su27.jpg
- Not used in any article (delete).
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- Image:Ukraine airlines2.gif (logo of an airline is not a state symbol)
Image:Ukraine International Airlines logo.svg(logo of an airline is not a state symbol)- Image:Ukraine desant.jpg
- Direct work of the Ukrainian government.
Image:Ukrainian in Kosovo.JPG- Possible Non-free. Rationale added.
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- Image:Ukrainian political crisis talks on May 25.jpg (note that the Ukrainian President's site even explicitly says "all rights reserved" at the bottom!)
Image:Ukrtelecom logo.png (company logo is not a state symbol)- Read section (d); symbols and signs of enterprises, institutions and organizations; It is a symbol of an [govn't-owned] organization. —dima/talk/ 21:47, 3 March 2008 (UTC)
- Doh! Thanks for pointing that one out; don't know why I missed that. So company logos can only be trademarked in the Ukraine but not copyrighted? Lupo 07:53, 4 March 2008 (UTC)
- We discussed it in commons:User_talk:EugeneZelenko#Логотипы украинских предприятий. Perhaps logos Ukrainian companies should be placed under two licenses {{PD-UA-exempt}} and {{Trademarked}}? --Yakudza (talk) 09:34, 4 March 2008 (UTC)
- Doh! Thanks for pointing that one out; don't know why I missed that. So company logos can only be trademarked in the Ukraine but not copyrighted? Lupo 07:53, 4 March 2008 (UTC)
- Read section (d); symbols and signs of enterprises, institutions and organizations; It is a symbol of an [govn't-owned] organization. —dima/talk/ 21:47, 3 March 2008 (UTC)
Image:Ukravto.jpg (logo)- Non-free rationale added.
Image:Ut-1.gif (logo of TV station is not a state symbol)- Non-free rationale added.
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- This is "symbols and signs of enterprises, institutions and organizations;" (licensing {{PD-UA-exempt}}. --Yakudza (talk) 09:21, 4 March 2008 (UTC)
- {{Non-free logo}} also cover cituation when logo trademarked but not copyrighted. --EugeneZelenko (talk) 14:55, 4 March 2008 (UTC)
- This is "symbols and signs of enterprises, institutions and organizations;" (licensing {{PD-UA-exempt}}. --Yakudza (talk) 09:21, 4 March 2008 (UTC)
Image:VR URSR 1938.JPG (this one actually might be PD due to other reasons)tagged no source.Image:VRU Jan23 2005 CVK.jpg (no source either)tagged no source.- Image:VRU Jan23 2005 president.jpg
Image:VRU Jan23 2005 results.jpg (no source either)tagged no source. KrakatoaKatie 06:08, 1 April 2008 (UTC)Image:Valentyna Shevchenko.jpg (no source either)tagged no source.Image:Valeriy Pshenychnyy (official portrait).jpgappropriate license & FU rationale given. KrakatoaKatie 06:08, 1 April 2008 (UTC)
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Image:VerhovhaRada April 5 Voting.jpg (screen capture from TV broadcast)news/current events for press are PD. KrakatoaKatie 06:08, 1 April 2008 (UTC)Image:Verkhovna Rada back.jpg (no source either)tagged no source. KrakatoaKatie 06:08, 1 April 2008 (UTC)Image:Verkhovna Rada face.jpg (no source either)tagged no source. KrakatoaKatie 06:08, 1 April 2008 (UTC)Image:Verkhovna Rada inside.jpg (no source either)tagged no source. KrakatoaKatie 06:08, 1 April 2008 (UTC)Image:VerkhovnaRada April 11 2007.JPG (screen capture from TV broadcast)news/current events for press are PD. KrakatoaKatie 06:08, 1 April 2008 (UTC)Image:Viktor Yushchenko Presidential Photo.jpglicensed, detailed fair use rationale given. KrakatoaKatie 06:08, 1 April 2008 (UTC)- Image:Volare air.gif (company logo is not a state symbol)
- Image:Yuriy Yekhanurov cropped Oct12 2005.jpg
Image:Yuschenko2005.jpg (no source either)tagged no source and no license. KrakatoaKatie 06:08, 1 April 2008 (UTC)
- The {{PD-UA-exempt}} tag should be corrected to make clear that it does not say that any photo on a Urkrainian government website were free. It should also make clear that the news reporting clause is useless for photos (maybe just remove that one). Lupo 09:58, 3 March 2008 (UTC)
- Image:Luisin07.jpg (history · last edit) from [3]. Kolindigo (talk) 19:01, 3 March 2008 (UTC)
- Image:Michsabatino.jpg (history · last edit) from [4]. Nomination completed by DumbBOT (talk) 00:12, 4 March 2008 (UTC)
- Image:Timhorton.jpg (history · last edit) from [an autographed publicity picture. The uploader may own a copy of the pulicity photo, but absent evidence to the contrary, presumably does not own the copyright to the photo.]. Nomination completed by DumbBOT (talk) 00:12, 4 March 2008 (UTC)
- Image:Fotos Galería 009.jpg (history · last edit) (url not detected). Nomination completed by DumbBOT (talk) 00:12, 4 March 2008 (UTC)
- Image:Fotos Galería 038.jpg (history · last edit) (url not detected). Nomination completed by DumbBOT (talk) 00:12, 4 March 2008 (UTC)
- Image:Fotos Galería 043.jpg (history · last edit) (url not detected). Nomination completed by DumbBOT (talk) 00:12, 4 March 2008 (UTC)

