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Triple Crown

Your majesty, it gives me great pleasure to bestow this triple crown upon The Rambling Man for your contributions in the areas of WP:DYK, WP:GA, and WP:FA. Cirt (talk) 20:14, 31 January 2008 (UTC)
Your majesty, it gives me great pleasure to bestow this triple crown upon The Rambling Man for your contributions in the areas of WP:DYK, WP:GA, and WP:FA. Cirt (talk) 20:14, 31 January 2008 (UTC)

Thank you for contributions to the project, Great work, truly an impressive amount of featured content, I'm surprised you haven't gotten this yet. May you wear the crowns well. Cirt (talk) 20:14, 31 January 2008 (UTC)

RfA thanks

I am not one for sending round pretty pictures, but after my recent RfA, which passed 68/1/7, I am now relaxed and this is to thank you for your support. I will take on board all the comments made and look forward to wielding the mop with alacrity. Or two lacrities. --Rodhullandemu (Talk) 21:05, 31 January 2008 (UTC)

WikiProject Good Articles Newsletter

The February 2008 issue of the WikiProject Good Articles Newsletter is ready! Dr. Cash (talk) 05:16, 1 February 2008 (UTC)

Everton F.C.

Hi Rambling Man. Peter Anderson took care of the date formatting in the references. Before closing it, the lead could probably take a couple of extra sentences: one on the "Giants," mentioning a notable former player or two (I think Dixie Dean deserves his own sentence in the body) and another on plans for a new stadium. You might also check the copyright status on the images, as that was brought up earlier. Cheers, Marskell (talk) 09:47, 1 February 2008 (UTC)

Empire of Atlantium

Hi, I have made improvements to the article based on your comments, follow the above link to reach the peer review. Thanks for the suggestions. --Onecanadasquarebishopsgate 16:56, 1 February 2008 (UTC)

ITFC again

You can limit how much the TOC displays as explained here Help:Section#Limiting the TOC, so if you want to go back to level 4 headings but not have them show up in the TOC, put {{TOClimit|limit=3}} where the TOC appears, and that should suppress them. (If I'd been able to find this page in the first place, I'd have suggested it in the first place.)

In my opinion, the less bolding the better. Get rid of as much as you like.

Lead. Difficult one, given no-one's successfully tried getting this sort of article featured before. The first para's OK, though the The team currently plays... sentence would be more comfortable at the end. And you might be better with and first participated in European competition in the early 1960s. Avoids As-of problems.

You could try expanding a little on what the article contains in each section. E.g where you have The player records section includes those relating to appearances, goalscoring, international appearances and transfer fees., stretch to something like The player records section includes details of the club's leading goalscorers and those who have made most appearances in first-team competition. It also records notable achievements by Ipswich players on the international stage, and the highest transfer fees paid and received by the club. It's waffle, but you're asking the wrong person if you're after brilliant prose. hope some of this helps, cheers, Struway2 (talk) 19:45, 1 February 2008 (UTC)

Request for Review

Could you take a look at 2007 ACC Championship Game and let me know if there's anything I need to change? It's up for FAC review right now, and any comments or support would be appreciated. Thanks! JKBrooks85 (talk) 21:25, 1 February 2008 (UTC)

Ipswich stats

I'm not sure. I'd probably support but I don't feel completely au fait with guidelines to do so with any real distinction. Which is half the reason why I'll watch this with interest. It will set a precedence and benchmark for such future articles. Are there any similar ones out there in other sports (or not even sports at all)? Peanut4 (talk) 22:52, 1 February 2008 (UTC)

I've not weighed in on this one yet, mainly because I'm not sure how I think an ideal stats and records article should look. One thing I did think of, though it would be a pain in the backside to implement, is that a chronological list of record transfers would be more useful than an all-time top five, which thanks to inflation will always feature recent players. Oldelpaso (talk) 10:25, 2 February 2008 (UTC)
Its a fair point. Transfer deals are much more complex than they once were. Oldelpaso (talk) 10:42, 2 February 2008 (UTC)
No, by all means remove it; I just thought it would be nice to hide a long list, but if it's discouraged, then so be it. пﮟოьεԻ 57 11:44, 4 February 2008 (UTC)

Auckland Zoo

Thank you for all your suggestion on the above page. I shall get working on them soon.

ZoofanNZ (talk) 05:07, 2 February 2008 (UTC)

Ipswich - you beat me to it

Lol. I was just about to leave you a message but it seems you were quicker to the button. Indeed I've made some minor amendments, feel free to change any. Particularly my changing "player in history" to "footballer". I didn't believe in history was necessary but guessed it was there to make it clear we're not just talking about Ipswich hence my change.

Secondly I've added my support vote. You clarified any concerns I would have regarding FA/FL and I was already leaning to FL. The criteria you stipulated seems to me to perfectly sum up what the article is. Great work.

As regards the draft, I humbly bow down to US contributors or those more au fait with the US system. But as per my last comment, his pick as 11th, means he's the 11th best teenager that year. I'm sure in England, some of those 11th best teenagers would end up rotting in Liverpool / Chelsea reserves before finally making it in some non-league team. But it's impossible to compare the two systems. Peanut4 (talk) 17:59, 2 February 2008 (UTC)

No worries. The only addition I think you could add is via a footnote. Otherwise it's going to get too clogged up with text if you put in a reason each time Ipswich reach Europe. Peanut4 (talk) 20:37, 3 February 2008 (UTC)
I'm not going to add it to the FLC, but I'm intrigued why just those three years. As you say, you'd have to add a note for each year you've qualified. I can't say I'd have the same problem on the Bradford stats page I've started. Simply, Geoffrey Richmond got ideas above our station and entered Bradford for the 1999-2000 Inter Two Bobs Cup!! Peanut4 (talk) 20:52, 3 February 2008 (UTC)

Birmingham campaign FAC

Thank you for reading and responding to the FAC for Birmingham campaign. I made some of the changes you requested, but felt some weren't appropriate. I hope they aren't dealbreakers, so please comment on the article when you can. I appreciate your assistance. --Moni3 (talk) 23:16, 2 February 2008 (UTC)

FLC West Mids railway stations

Many thanks again for your support - rest assured I'll be bringing more lists to FLC in the future. Regards, --TicketMan - Talk - contribs 06:37, 4 February 2008 (UTC)

Golden Film

The FAC for Golden Film was abruptly closed. I have some questions left:

  • In the list of Golden Film recipients, it says 2001 and 2002 recipients only had to sell 75,000 tickets. If so this needs to be added here.
    • This is explained in the History section. What do you mean with this remark?
  • "While the recipients of the award have considered the receiving films to be successful, critics have said that films are not successful when they have sold only the tickets needed to receive the Golden Film ." Not clear what this sentence means.
    • Could you help me with this sentence? I can't get it right.
  • "announced the Golden Film on September 4, 2001 as an award for films from the Netherlands that had been seen by a paying audience of, at that time, 75,000 or more.[1] " - this reads rather awkwardly for me.
    • This was the definition of the award at the introduction in 2001. I replaced two commas with em dashes, does this already help?
  • "Recipients consider the Golden Film to be an award given to films that are a success." this seems pretty obvious to me, if I was given an award for a film I produced/acted in, I'd probably consider it a success too.
    • This passage is inserted, because critics say films that have only the audience needed for the Golden Film award are not yet commercially successful.

Thank you for your time. – Ilse@ 08:20, 4 February 2008 (UTC)

ITFC stats (again)

Hi, coupla things thought I'd mention here rather than at the FLC. First, your appearances table sorts on starts, rather than starts plus sub appearances, e.g Stockwell's 28+3 FA Cup apps sorts below Rees's 29+0. Is that what you want it to do? Also, you could change the legend to competitive professional matches only like it already says above the scorers table. Second, under Managerial records I'd assume that O'Brien was the first club manager in the professional era rather than the first ever? if so, perhaps you should say so, and maybe add the first ever, if there was such a sourceable person. cheers, Struway2 (talk) 13:29, 4 February 2008 (UTC)

and there's more... In both your transfer fees paid and received tables, the club column is headed From. Daresay one of them ought really to say To, though which it is would depend on whether you mean Transfer fee paid To, or Player came From... cheers, Struway2 (talk) 18:04, 8 February 2008 (UTC)

"Sneaky"

Is that my new nickname? NPA! --Dweller (talk) 14:27, 4 February 2008 (UTC)

Whatever you say, BK, you got it. --Dweller (talk) 14:38, 4 February 2008 (UTC)

Sneaky here. Have a peek at this Wikipedia_talk:User_page#.22Dick.22 and tell me if I'm off-beam as usual. btw My edits to the list page now make my top 10 on my edit counter, not that I am counting. Often. Well, at least, not more often than once a day. Usually. --Dweller (talk) 15:08, 4 February 2008 (UTC)

In case you missed the above, I thought I'd leave this message here. With a gift. Click me --Dweller (talk) 12:13, 6 February 2008 (UTC)

Admin Coaching

Hi, are you still interesting in giving admin coaching? If not please ignore the rest of this. Just to introduce myself, I'm John, and I have contributed to Wikipedia for about 2 years, as a named user since November 2006. I largely spend my times on football, British TV and video games articles, though I find most of my edits are discussing or reverting vandalism or innappropriate edits, rather than add actual content. For a while I have been toying with the idea of trying to become an admin, largely so that I can do more work against vandalism. But I feel rather than jump straight into the process I want to get an opinion on whether I would be suitable, and see where I can improve. I think my weaknesses will probably be my low percentage of new content compared to fixing or discussing, and a lack of knowledge of some of the more obscure processes and rules. I'm very familar with most of the processes such as ARV, CSD, AfD, etc. but I'm sure there are things which admins should know about which I haven't come across that much. I looked on the list of potential coaches and noticed you as I'm sure I have edited the same articles as you at some point, and you seem to share some of the same interests as me. Would you like to be my coach? John Hayestalk 23:43, 4 February 2008 (UTC)

Thanks. I've also just released realised where I've seen you before, you've been working on the two peer reviews of Liverpool F.C. related articles, which reminds me I must list them on WP:LFC. Anyway I'll get onto those tasks later and get back to you. John Hayestalk 10:54, 5 February 2008 (UTC)
I've created the page, Jrphayes/Admin Coaching, I'll finish answering the questions later today. John Hayestalk 00:05, 6 February 2008 (UTC)
Done as requested. John Hayestalk 02:23, 7 February 2008 (UTC)

Old pix

You could always ask the club. Old pix would have little or no commercial value to them, esp when relatively low res. --Dweller (talk) 13:33, 5 February 2008 (UTC)

Kewl. --Dweller (talk) 13:51, 5 February 2008 (UTC)

List of members of Stortinget 2001-2005

Hey Punkmorten, I've added some comments at the WP:FLC for the List of members of Stortinget 2001-2005 article. Hope they are of use to you. The Rambling Man (talk) 08:09, 5 February 2008 (UTC)

Hi, I do have the FLC on my watchlist, I left replies. If we could work out the page title that would be great. Punkmorten (talk) 16:56, 5 February 2008 (UTC)

James Milner

Do you have anything more to add to the PR? Buc (talk) 19:44, 5 February 2008 (UTC)

No, thanks. The Rambling Man (talk) 08:09, 6 February 2008 (UTC)

I've replied to or addressed every comment you left. Buc (talk) 09:59, 6 February 2008 (UTC)

Mirfield

Hi, would you consider semi-protecting this page please? I appreciate that normally you require lots of vandalism for SP. However, what we have here is someone, using a dynamic IP address so he can't be blocked, adding false information. I have adjusted it slightly from here. The problem is that the vandalism is not getting reverted promptly and remains unreverted for long enough for the media to pick up on it and cause Wikipedia embarrassment. BlueValour (talk) 03:19, 6 February 2008 (UTC)

Re: Sachin centuries

Hi Rambling Man! Thank you for your message on my talk page as well as your notes on the FA nomination of Sachin's centuries. I've addressed your comments in the nom page. Please feel free to discuss possibilities of further improvements. Thanks for your time! Regards, Mspraveen (talk) 15:47, 6 February 2008 (UTC)

Dates

I refreshed my memory of this this morning, so I can't be too smug. But it does make sense: Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style_(dates_and_numbers)#Limit_links_to_other_time_period_related_articles --Dweller (talk) 14:34, 7 February 2008 (UTC)

I was going to do the rest too (like I've done today for NCFC's article) but I've been caught up with eating humble pie over The Boy Who Turned Yellow. --Dweller (talk) 14:51, 7 February 2008 (UTC)
Well, the ones that usefully link to seasons in English football should remain and proliferate! The others are usually unhelpful, don't you think? --Dweller (talk) 15:40, 7 February 2008 (UTC)
True, but if the date's written in full there can be no confusion. And it's clearly an English English article. --Dweller (talk) 15:48, 7 February 2008 (UTC)

Old Trafford peer review

Cheers for the comments, man. I'm just in the middle of addressing them now. – PeeJay 16:07, 7 February 2008 (UTC)

Ipswich FLC

Looks like the Ipswich stats page is going to get steamrollered through as an FLC. I hope it sets a good benchmark for any other similar articles, but I'd love to see some input from a non-WP:FOOTY editor who has no feeling either way about the article. I completely agree with your reasons that it should be an FL (in fact I'll go as far as I was very impressed with a very concise and clear argument). I have no doubt it's at featured level, but would love someone with other experience to rubberstamp it as a FL, rather than possible FA. You reckon we might be able to find someone else to review it? Peanut4 (talk) 22:16, 7 February 2008 (UTC)

You're probably right. I expect the Ipswich list may be the first of many such football lists and hope they all follow the same pattern. I guess the list is there for people to shoot at and no-one has. Maybe that is because no-one has any arugments against it, maybe cos no-one without football knowledge has piped up. Peanut4 (talk) 14:20, 8 February 2008 (UTC)
I have no doubt that the Ipswich one might pick up anything other lists pick up later on. But the Ipswich list has become very precise and thorough and I can't see there's going to be much work to do on it or add. My main worry is that in future, other lists might end up being pushed towards FAC rather than FLC. I suppose that depends on how much text and how much lists there are in the entry, but consistency is the biggest key.
The Ispwich list is a good set of lists with a few paragraphs of explanation but is mainly lists. Your explanation at its original listing was pretty spot on. But I know you questioned whether to go to FAC or FLC in the first place. I'm certain you've chosen the right place but it's not the same as most lists in the FLs, which tend to be a lead with sometimes additional text then a list(s). Peanut4 (talk) 14:29, 8 February 2008 (UTC)

An old friend?

Seen Mark Benson recently? --Dweller (talk) 23:26, 7 February 2008 (UTC)

If it's the same as our old friend Cricketguru, it's not the son, but someone else with genuine notability themselves from the world of cricket. But either way... Funny, Benson and Stuart Clark have the most persistent (and in the latter's case, most bizarre) repeat vandals.

Oooh... I like the sound of the message below this! --Dweller (talk) 10:28, 8 February 2008 (UTC)

Yup, see my email to you. Definitely not the same person. --Dweller (talk) 10:56, 8 February 2008 (UTC)

Keith Miller

Seems a bit stalled. Now that my dig camera is back in action, I can scan the books that I have and email them to you with you need them...Blnguyen (bananabucket) 07:25, 8 February 2008 (UTC)

Reply

I unstruck them because many of them were struck by a user other than yourself. [1] In FL/ACs, comments should only be struck by the user that initially made them. -- Scorpion0422 17:07, 8 February 2008 (UTC)

We currently have a bunch of Featured list removal candidates since you've been reviewing some FLCs, I was wondering if you would mind taking a look at some of the review candidates. -- Scorpion0422 17:55, 8 February 2008 (UTC)

Birmingham campaign FAC

Hello, The Rambling Man. I hope I have addressed the majority of your concerns at the FAC for Birmingham campaign. I made a few changes even today to comply. Please return and review when you can. --Moni3 (talk) 23:01, 8 February 2008 (UTC)

Reply

Thanks for the message, I looked at the en-dash/dash thing and it seems to me that the page numbers already use en-dash? But I'm probably wrong, but if you could clarify it for me that would be great.

Again, with the dupicate references, I can't seem to get that right. Any help on that point as well? Apologies, Mattyness (talk) 17:55, 9 February 2008 (UTC).

Peer reviews

Swapsies!!!!! :-) ChrisTheDude (talk) 21:39, 9 February 2008 (UTC)

PS League Two here we come.... :-P ChrisTheDude (talk) 21:39, 9 February 2008 (UTC)

Cheers for your comments on the Dover PR, I'll crack on with the amendments in the morning..... ChrisTheDude (talk) 22:28, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/Lester Patrick Trophy

I was wondering if you had more comments about it. You promised some a few days back, but you haven't added it. Just a friendly note. :-) P.S. I'm busy with an FAC atm so this FLC might take extra time to respond again. :-( Maxim(talk) 03:14, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

Thanks. :-) Maxim(talk) 12:55, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/Carrie Underwood discography

Hi, I was wondering if you would be willing to give up your time and review this article. If you find any problems, please let me know and I will try to fix it. Thanks. σмgнgσмg(talk) 10:31, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

Hey, I just wanted to say thanks to the particularly useful criticisms you provided for the article. However, I wanted to ask you advice on dealing with a particular situation. During the "re-working" of this article, I've come across a particular editor who always seems to be reverting and undoing my particular edits. I've left messages on his talk page and agreed to compromise on the article's talk page on how the article should be addressed to improve it, yet it seems that I'm getting a reaction that he isn't too happy about it. As an adminstrator, how would you go about this problem? Many thanks. σмgнgσмg(talk) 05:37, 11 February 2008 (UTC)
Thanks for the advice. From the talk page, we've worked out a compromise. I've also talked to Drewcifer3000 and asked about what he thinks. But once again, many thanks! σмgнgσмg(talk) 10:16, 11 February 2008 (UTC)
Hey, after compromising and third party opinions, the article is almost FL material. I was just wondering if you would be generous enough to view the article once more. Much appreciated, σмgнgσмg(talk) 10:46, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

Chargers seasons

Do you have anything eles to add because I'm sure I've addressed everything raised. Buc (talk) 19:18, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

Villa stats

I am going to go hide in the dunces corner now with a big cap on my head... Woody (talk) 09:19, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

Yep, quite a while eh. Like to think I have done a bit in that time budgiekiller. That's a bit cruel you know, killing budgies. ;) Woody (talk) 09:26, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

Princess Louise, Duchess of Argyll PR

Hello. I was wondering if you could review Princess Louise, Duchess of Argyll at WP:PR. I hope to be listing this at WP:FAC quite soon, and it's had helpful reviews by DrKiernan and Karanacs. Your input would be a great help. Thanks very much :) PeterSymonds | talk 11:53, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

Thanks! PeterSymonds | talk 11:58, 11 February 2008 (UTC)
Thank you very much for your helpful comments. I've gone through and edited based on your suggestions. One thing ongoing is the tightening of prose, which I will go through now. Do you think this is now ready for FAC? Thanks again! PeterSymonds | talk 19:44, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

List of countries in the Eurovision Song Contest FLC

I think I've addressed all of your comments; please check back when you have the chance. Thanks. Chwech 14:21, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

Deletion of content

Hi, wonder if you might spare the time to take a look at SuperClarets82 (probably formerly User:Simon nelson). He/she persists in removing youth club information from infoboxes, sometimes under-21 and as here England C appearances. I've asked him to stop, asked him to explain, I and others have given templated warnings up to a level 4 which I did this morning, with no response. The user has now started again here, and more. I made the mistake of reporting it to WP:AIV and was (quite reasonably) told it wasn't blatant vandalism, but something needs to be done. cheers, Struway2 (talk) 17:58, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

thanks. should find time tomorrow to have a look at your latest masterpiece, cheers, Struway2 (talk) 19:04, 12 February 2008 (UTC)
Unfortunately, he seems to be at it again. one blatant one yesterday and at it again today diff and more. If he'd say what his reasoning is, we might get somewhere, but if he won't... cheers, Struway2 (talk) 16:39, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

FAC

I didn't even know it was at FAC yet... I'm still working through my own c-e! Yeah, sure, I'll do my best at the FAC in your absence. --Dweller (talk) 21:08, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

I've still not finished c-e! :-) Will try to do so today. I think the Cobbold thing is the only issue left at the FAC currently, as the date issue is beyond the scope of this article, as we've previously discussed! --Dweller (talk) 11:23, 13 February 2008 (UTC)
Suggestion - if / when you have time, will you scan the entire article for any remaining "sneaky"s from me or anyone else, and deal/remove/talkpage em? --Dweller (talk) 11:24, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

OK, I've finished my copyedit. Reckon we can list this at FAC now. ;-) --Dweller (talk) 13:42, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

No I hadn't. Interested to see how his sarcasm goes down. --Dweller (talk) 14:21, 13 February 2008 (UTC)
See (this) --Dweller (talk) 16:38, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

Serial Football Page Changes

Hi, it must be something in the water and thought you would like to know I have come across another serial editor of football pages! Take a look at User talk:Retepretep who has made it his/her purpose in life to change 'current squad ' headings on Football pages and fiddle with squad details. Looks like he has been serving a sentance is out on probation and is making the most of it!Tmol42 (talk) 21:42, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for your help this morning with sorting out User talk:Retepretep I thought he had taken heed of my advice but I guess the behaviour we saw was typical of a compulsive vandal!Tmol42 (talk) 12:22, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

History of Ipswich Town F.C.

I'm an intermittant editor who spends most his time working as an admin on a writing groups wiki, hehe. I'm a supporter of Ipswich, since 1999, hence the interest. I'm not sure if I have time to look tonight, but I'll try have a look at the Candidacy tomorrow if I get a chance between lectures and seminars. Thanks for bringing it to my attention :) - JVG (talk) 22:37, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

By the way, have you tried the Pride of Anglia website for material about Ipswich Town F.C. history? They seem to have a fair bit. - JVG (talk) 22:41, 13 February 2008 (UTC)
I spotted after I said it, lol - JVG (talk) 22:48, 13 February 2008 (UTC)
I had noticed that the Ipswich articles were gradually becoming Featured :) I knew the ITFC article and the NCFC one had a featured article drive a while back. Just fixed a repeated word, I'll see if I can add anything but not sure there's much I can add at the moment. Seems fairly complete to me, though if I can add something, I'll certainly try to. - JVG (talk) 22:58, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

Page move

I've moved User:The Rambling Man/The Rambling Man, on vandalism to your userspace for safekeeping.

The Transhumanist 03:03, 14 February 2008 (UTC)

List of Test cricket centuries by Sachin Tendulkar

Hello there, this is as per your Weak Support comment for this article, where you weren't keen on in-line links for the scorecards. I was working on Tendulkar's One Day centuries in my sandbox. Here, for the first two centuries, I have the ODI scorecards linked to the match result. Does this arrangement of linking scorecards somehow look better, so that it can be incorporated into the present article? Cheers! Mspraveen (talk) 08:33, 14 February 2008 (UTC)

The "resolved stuff".. box

How do you get yours to work? I tried it but for some reason the last 10 or so lines I was trying to hide just disappeared. A little too well hidden!

Also I did most of the stuff at Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/Degrassi: The Next Generation (season 1). I just needed a bit more clarification from you on 2 points. -- Matthew | talk | Contribs 09:44, 14 February 2008 (UTC)

Oceanearth69

I spent a little more time going through his contributions, and would like to encourage you to shift the block from 31 hours to indefinite. Besides today's antics with Britney Spears and Sean Kingston, we have a false death for Lauren Conrad and accusations of bisexuality against Audrina Partridge. No valid edits whatsoever.Kww (talk) 12:39, 14 February 2008 (UTC)

Playpage

Hello. You're missing Mike Bassett. Also, does your FC friend know about 3RR? --Dweller (talk) 13:53, 14 February 2008 (UTC)

Looks a goer. I think it can handle more data, like records in major competitions. I made a very helpful edit, too. --Dweller (talk) 14:23, 14 February 2008 (UTC)
rofl! --Dweller (talk) 14:25, 14 February 2008 (UTC)

OK. I'll stop there because I can't resolve the buttocks image properly. Incidentally, I think some fixing needs to be done about Backside. What sayest thou? I think the prime usage is clear! --Dweller (talk) 14:35, 14 February 2008 (UTC)

Btw why do you like doing things on your playpage? It discourages collaboration; or is that the intent?! --Dweller (talk) 10:28, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
Gotcha. I'd go for List of managers of the England national football team. There is no disambiguation needed for football as any other kind comes (in the context of England) with a modifying adjective (American, Aussie Rules, Gaelic, Rugby etc). --Dweller (talk) 10:53, 15 February 2008 (UTC)

BAFTA site

The BAFTA site seems to be up now. I guess it just went down for a while. Thanks for the heads up though. Drewcifer (talk) 21:50, 14 February 2008 (UTC)

List of Boston Red Sox seasons

I improved this article, removing the playoff section, adding images, and adding a helpful key. I would ask you to take a look at it and please reconsider your !vote. STORMTRACKER 94 Go Sox! 21:59, 14 February 2008 (UTC)

na-na-ne-na-na

Hello, sorry for not dropping by and taunting you! But seeing as I'm here... hugely pleased with that win and our form in general. Hopefully we've turned a corner and are pushing on now. Think Ipswich will be there or thereabouts though, I've been impressed by the progress of your youngsters and the signings you've made. Still pottering about on Wiki as much as I used to, just not editing as much, dunno why... Still, I'm always around! Cheers for popping round to my talk page! HornetMike (talk) 00:28, 15 February 2008 (UTC)

ITFC history

Made a couple of minor MoS edits to your history. One thing I'll mention here to avoid risk of opening can of worms at FAC is your discretionary plurals. In the lead you have "Ipswich Town F.C. is", followed by "the club ... were elected", followed by "Ipswich Town was elected". Then "The club has made". Then in the Early Football League section, "Ipswich Town F.C. were elected". You may want to have a quick check through see if you think your usage is consistent.

Also, if you have a moment, there are a couple of stats and records lists available for peer review here and here, all criticism and suggestions for improvement gratefully received. cheers, Struway2 (talk) 11:23, 15 February 2008 (UTC)

If you're happy with the plurals, I'm not going to argue. Whatever sounds OK. (That's why I mentioned it here, to avoid starting trouble.) Dates is a non-issue, though. Until/unless they change the MoS, it's still normal to put square brackets round a valid-format date, either [[January 1]], [[2008]] US format or [[1 January]] [[2008]] international/UK format, to allow autoformatting for people's date preferences. Pick one format and stick to it throughout an article. cheers, Struway2 (talk) 12:54, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
The plurals are fine. The only thing that's making me reluctant to support is my lack of experience around FAC's. I've looked at loads of lists so have a rough idea what's required of a featured list, but have never seriously looked at a featured article candidate. Still, suppose one must start sometime :-) Thanks for looking at BCFC stats, I'll reply to your comments later. cheers, Struway2 (talk) 13:20, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
Have acted on and/or replied to your comments on BCFC stats. Wouldn't mind some advice as to Division wikilinking. cheers, Struway2 (talk) 14:43, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
I've made a few small edits on the grounds that they were easire to do myself than raise at FAC. The old chestnut of discretionary plurals popped into my head when reading it too, Ipswich recorded its biggest ever victory is totally unnatural to me. I'm not going to make anything of it if you're happy with it though, down that road madness lies. Oldelpaso (talk) 11:57, 17 February 2008 (UTC)

Sir BR at TFA

Delighted to see that a previous victim of my comb is up for TFA later in the week. Well done. Kevin McE (talk) 13:02, 15 February 2008 (UTC)

YCFC stats and records

Thanks for your comments on the PR, I've now seen to them. I'm wondering, do you believe that a successful WP:FL nomination is doable with this list? Main problem I could see is not having European statistics to add like for you and your damn big clubs! Thanks, Mattythewhite (talk) 15:50, 15 February 2008 (UTC)

LFC stats

Hey, I think I've addressed all your concerns, please check back when you a spare moment.cheers NapHit (talk) 17:36, 15 February 2008 (UTC)

Ashley Barnes

Meets Wikipedia:WikiProject Football/Notability as he's played for a Fully Pro National League club against a FPNL club. Jimbo[online] 17:37, 15 February 2008 (UTC)

Yeh I've added it to the talkpage, will add a bit more info though Jimbo[online] 17:51, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
When you ask for evidence, there's a link to the match in the article under references - is this sufficient? Jimbo[online] 18:00, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
Isn't it already clear enough? What else needs to be added? Jimbo[online] 18:06, 15 February 2008 (UTC)

Re:Lester Patrick Trophy

I am really surprised how you got the idea that I think I own the WP:FLC process. I know I don't own it(duh!), that was very offensive of you to say that. I am really glad that Lester Patrick Trophy was promoted anyway. That means that the "New Orleans" incident will stay as the only nomination, where reviewers 'judged the article on the actions of the proposer rather than on its merits". --Crzycheetah 00:07, 17 February 2008 (UTC)

Actually I judged it on the inaction of the proposer - the fact that the article hadn't been modified since the last failed FLC and therefore Buc's attempt to use FLC as a peer review mechanism. And also, it was the way you said "so this one fails" that alluded to your ownership. Your words, not mine. The Rambling Man (talk) 12:47, 17 February 2008 (UTC)

Managers

Funny, I was planning on dropping you a line about this. It's more of an article that includes a list now and FAC is the way forward. It should also not be called "List of..." --Dweller (talk) 00:19, 17 February 2008 (UTC)

Good quality content will be nicked for elsewhere=a good thing. Making the article comprehensive and good quality will ensure its longevity. I think we should go for it! Ideas for things we could include are: who was in the running for each job, a chart showing progress for each in major championships graphically, section on media reactions to each boss, who they made captain(s), attitudes / success in friendlies, Home Nations Championship etc etc. --Dweller (talk) 15:38, 17 February 2008 (UTC)
Sounds good. I'll be with you, Luke. From tomorrow, of course. --Dweller (talk) 17:54, 17 February 2008 (UTC)

Moving it on. Also, take a look at this idea. --Dweller (talk) 12:21, 18 February 2008 (UTC)

AfD closure?

Hello Rambling One; I see that (a) you are not a participant in this monstrous AfD, (b) you are an administrator and (c) you are editing right now. Would you consider terminating this AfD in one way or another? Thank you! -- Hoary (talk) 12:53, 17 February 2008 (UTC)

-- Matthew | talk | Contribs 19:13, 17 February 2008 (UTC)

Question about Degrassi: The Next Generation (season 2)

Hi. I'd like to add this DVD information to the article, but am unsure of where to place it. Before or after the list of episodes? Do you have a suggestion or preference? Thanks. -- Matthew | talk | Contribs 19:03, 17 February 2008 (UTC)

P.S. I've got one ready for season 1, too. And the other seasons, so this one won't be the odd-one-out. -- Matthew | talk | Contribs 19:04, 17 February 2008 (UTC)

OK, I added it in. Could I ask you to re-review the article, specifically the new section? Thanks.

Degrassi: The Next Generation (season 3) and season 4

Hi there. You told me to let you know when the next articles were nominated at WP:FLC, and they are. If you could review them, that'd be great. Thanks. Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/Degrassi: The Next Generation (season 3) / Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/Degrassi: The Next Generation (season 4) -- Matthew | talk | Contribs 09:04, 18 February 2008 (UTC)

Heh, me again!
There's been some recent changes to the {{episode list}}, and there are now fields for "Written by" and "directed by", as well as a couple of other changes to formatting for episode titles. Because of this I've drawn up new episode lists in my sandbox for season 3 and season 4. They are slightly different from each other in that the column for writers is larger in season 4's than 3's, and the two airdates columns are merged into one. (FYI, American airdates is important because seasons 6 and 7 have been airing in America before Canada, so for consistency that's why they're there in each season). Anyways, could you give me feedback on those, which you think is better, etc, and if it's worth updating the real articles with those reworked lists.
I'd also just like to say here thanks for your support and help so far. -- Matthew | talk | Contribs 06:07, 19 February 2008 (UTC)

I can has thankspam?

Quick, let's delete the front page!

PS: I see you like Tiger as well. You just can't have too many pictures of admnimcat on one talk page, is what I say... Kim Dent-Brown (Talk) 09:50, 18 February 2008 (UTC)

Discretionary plurals

See this discussion. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 18:28, 18 February 2008 (UTC)

Maybe next time

Well, the Ipswich history FAC is another I didn't manage to comment on. I swear FAC's move more quickly than ever before these days. Talk page archives too ;) Oldelpaso (talk) 19:33, 18 February 2008 (UTC)

I think that one's a foregone conclusion already. FAC promoted in the early hours, current Main Page FA, featured topic nom, and you still manage sterling work on the latest Rambling/Dweller combo? Let me know if you need any Eriksson sources, I have Joe Lovejoy's imaginatively titled Sven on my bookshelf. Oldelpaso (talk) 20:09, 18 February 2008 (UTC)

Gold stars

I haven't edited all that much in the last couple of weeks due to a broadband problem (now fixed thankfully). Just wanted to say well done on all those ITFC gold stars - I guess you will be working on the East Anglian derby next. I'm working behind the scenes on a couple of lists using your established layout (namely WBAFC seasons and WBAFC stats & records), so I may call upon your reviewing expertise once I've released them into the wild. I also want to do something on WBA Player of the Year but I have not found the required information anywhere as yet. Cheers. --Jameboy (talk) 13:01, 19 February 2008 (UTC)

England national football team managers

Updated DYK query On 19 February 2008, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article England national football team managers, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

--BorgQueen (talk) 17:58, 19 February 2008 (UTC)

OhanaUnited's RFA

.: Thank you! :.

History of Aston Villa F.C. (1961–present)

There was no need to feel guilty, we all have time constraints TRM!! History of Aston Villa F.C. (1961–present) once again finds itself on the WP:FAC page at Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/History of Aston Villa F.C. (1961–present). I thought you would like to know and your opinions would be welcome given your previous interest. Thanks. Woody (talk) 20:12, 19 February 2008 (UTC)

List of foreign recipients of the Knight's Cross

I tweaked the article so much that I am a little uncertain where it stands today. I feel that I addressed the majority of your remarks. Your criticism was most welcomed. Could you be so kind and give it one more review and tell me what might be missing. Thanks! MisterBee1966 (talk) 12:46, 20 February 2008 (UTC)

I fixed some but not all of your last comments. Please check my comments if they make sense to you. Thanks for all your patients and most appreciated comments. MisterBee1966 (talk) 16:25, 21 February 2008 (UTC)

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Yo

Good to hear from you. I guess we need to finish the England managers, but when that's done, the NCFC articles could do with some work. I'll keep nagging the club intermittently to finish the Hall of Fame pages on their website and that'll go bronze quickly thereafter, but there are plenty of other shoddy articles on the NCFC template. Carrow Road recently sprouted a rash of {{cn}} tags, so maybe that? --Dweller (talk) 16:37, 20 February 2008 (UTC)

I thought you could polish off the tables and take a look at the issues on the talk page, while I polish some prose and find more refs for my wild imaginings. Did you know that Walter Winterbottom used to juggle with babies, England played 4-4-8 under Keegan and that Hoddle became a pharmacist after leaving the England job? --Dweller (talk) 16:50, 20 February 2008 (UTC)
Gawd, no idea about that section. Suggest we junk it. I'll be along when I can. --Dweller (talk) 13:47, 21 February 2008 (UTC)
I think a to do list is in order. --Dweller (talk) 13:51, 21 February 2008 (UTC)
Schmoozer. (It's done.) --Dweller (talk) 13:54, 21 February 2008 (UTC)

What do you think of these?

Hi. I wrote this in a previous message but I'm not sure if you missed it when you archived it:

"There's been some recent changes to the {{episode list}}, and there are now fields for "Written by" and "Directed by", as well as a couple of other changes to formatting for episode titles. Because of this I've drawn up new episode lists in my sandbox for season 3 and season 4. They are slightly different from each other in that the column for writers is larger in season 4's than 3's, and the two airdates columns are merged into one. (FYI, American airdates is important because seasons 6 and 7 have been airing in America before Canada, so for consistency that's why they're there in each season)."

If you have minutes to spare could you give me feedback on those, which you think is better, etc, and if it's worth updating the real articles with those reworked lists. Thank you, -- Matthew | talk | Contribs 18:58, 20 February 2008 (UTC)

Recommended to review Milton Friedman FAC

Hi, I nominated Milton Friedman for a FAC and you were recommended as a notable article reviewer. If you have a chance, could you take a look at the article and make any comments at the FAC page at Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Milton Friedman? Thanks! Gary King (talk) 20:05, 20 February 2008 (UTC)

US v. U.S.

Please check the Style guide on Wikipedia:

In American English, both US and, decreasingly, U.S. are common abbreviations for United States; US is yet more common in other varieties. When referring to the country in a longer abbreviation (USA, USN, USAF), periods are not used. When the United States is mentioned along with one or more other countries in the same sentence, US or U.S. can be too informal, and many editors avoid it especially at first mention of the country (France and the United States, not France and the US). When the United States is mentioned by acronym in the same article as other abbreviated country names, for consistency do not use periods (the US, the UK and the PRC); and especially do not add periods to the other acronyms, as in the U.S., the U.K. and the P.R.C.). The spaced U. S. is never used, nor is the archaic U.S. of A., except in quoted materials. USA and U.S.A. are not used unless quoted or part of a proper name (Team USA).

Thanks for your attention, Sunil060902 (talk) 10:43, 21 February 2008 (UTC)

Why thank you for pointing that out. The Rambling Man (talk) 10:48, 21 February 2008 (UTC)

I'm trying to implement as much of your Depeche Mode discography suggestions as possible (also those from Indopug) - watch the discussion page! best, Sunil060902 (talk) 10:53, 21 February 2008 (UTC)

Catalogue, yeah, duh! And I'm supposed to use British English! Ooops :) Sunil060902 (talk) 15:18, 22 February 2008 (UTC)

East Carolina Pirates football seasons

Thank you for the comments. I will work on it as soon as I get home. PGPirate 18:08, 21 February 2008 (UTC)

How does it look now? PGPirate 01:34, 22 February 2008 (UTC)
I can find cite the lede, but I am having trouble cleaning up the writing. Do you know anyone that could help me? Please respond on my talkpage. PGPirate 23:47, 24 February 2008 (UTC)

Membership Granted

Please accept your honorary Bathrobe Cabal Slippers... Of Doom!
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If you have a suggestion for the advancement of the Bathrobe Cabal of Wikipedia; or a country you would like to see invaded, please direct your comment to the Bathrobe Cabal diabolical discussion page. Alternatively, we hang out at this little place, or over on IRC at #wikipedia-BRC. We're everywhere, really. Lara❤Love 22:33, 21 February 2008 (UTC)

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You are my hero. Get on IRC! dihydrogen monoxide (H20) 08:35, 22 February 2008 (UTC)

Are you a closet NUFC fan, or is it Exeter City? --Dweller (talk) 10:46, 22 February 2008 (UTC)

ARe you Roy Keane? Blnguyen (vote in the photo straw poll) 04:33, 27 February 2008 (UTC)

Anfield attendance graph

Cheers for the help TRM it's greatly appreciated heres the link thanks again your a great help NapHit (talk) 22:58, 21 February 2008 (UTC)

The graph is great TRM, thanks lot, oh and if you have time would you mind taking a look at LFC stats, it's changed a lot since you first reviewed it. Thanks again, your help's greatly appreciated NapHit (talk) 15:08, 22 February 2008 (UTC)

Template help

Hi TRM

If I remember rightly, it was yourself that created the basic set-up for all the "X F.C. managers" templates. Could you take a quick look at this one.....

v • d • e
Maidstone United F.C. – Managers

Fry (1985–1986) • Still (1986–1989) • Peacock (1989–1991) • Carr (1991) • Williams (1991–1992) • Walker (1992) • Tucker & Whiteley (1993–1996) • Martin (1996) • Chatwin & Andrews (1997) • Chappell (1997) • Irvine (1997–1998) • Lillis (1998–1999) • Toms (1999–2000) • Ward (2000–2003) • Watkins (2003–2004) • Walker & Hume (2004–present) •


....and tell me what I need to do to get Clive Walker's date(s) to show as simply "1992"? It's presumably something to do with the way the "last" line is set up.........

Cheers!!!! ChrisTheDude (talk) 10:53, 22 February 2008 (UTC)

Cheers! ChrisTheDude (talk) 10:58, 22 February 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for the humour

The Barnstar of Good Humour
For this. I've probably misinterpreted it but it's still extremely funny in my opinion. :) Thanks for the laugh. Rudget. 18:49, 22 February 2008 (UTC)

User talk:DHMO.

Added a comment. · AndonicO Hail! 22:53, 22 February 2008 (UTC)

Shawn Michales

I was looking over the FAC for this article (which you commented on). Just so you know, we don't use the Convert template for wrestler infoboxes. There is also nothing stating thatit has to use any coversion template, so that should not have any effect on whether an article can become a FA or not. TJ Spyke 21:57, 23 February 2008 (UTC)

Interesting I'm sure! The Rambling Man (talk) 00:00, 24 February 2008 (UTC)
Also, the article is called Shawn Michaels. And it's not at WP:FAC. But thanks for the heads-up! The Rambling Man (talk) 00:06, 24 February 2008 (UTC)

Carrie Underwood discography

Hey, User:I7114080 was unhappy with the recent changes made with article had expressed his opinion on this page. I would like for you to read his concerns and voice your opinion. Since there is still some dispute over what the article should look like, do you reckon I should cancel the WP:FLC nomination and work with him together before re-nominating? Or should I get other users and have a concensus? Please help. Cheers. σмgнgσмg(talk) 02:51, 24 February 2008 (UTC)

Could you please fail the nomination? I don't know how to do it. That way, we can work on the article before re-nominating the article. Cheers. σмgнgσмg(talk) 08:53, 27 February 2008 (UTC)

Admin Coaching Re-confirmation

Hello, previously you expressed interest in participating in the Wikipedia:Admin coaching project. We are currently conducting a reconfirmation drive to give coaches the opportunity to update their information and capacity to participate in the project. Please visit Wikipedia:Admin coaching/Status to update your status and move your entry to the Active list. Also, please remember to update your capacity (5th table variable) in the form of a fraction (eg. 2/3 means you are currently coaching 2 students, and could accept 1 more student). Thank you. MBisanz talk 09:32, 24 February 2008 (UTC)

ITFC Wiki

There is a request for a Ipswich Town Football Club wiki to be assembeled and it will likely be accepted, as i know you are an avid Tractor Boys supporter, i thought you might be interested in editing it, http://requests.wikia.com/wiki/Itfc.  Sunderland06  16:09, 24 February 2008 (UTC)

Its been accepted. Sunderland06  17:44, 24 February 2008 (UTC)
I would really like it if you started the articles on there.  Sunderland06  18:06, 24 February 2008 (UTC)
The url is [2] and i would like you to start us of with some articles.  Sunderland06  18:19, 24 February 2008 (UTC)

Re: (Minus) F.C.

Will do. I'm glad you're willing to share the burden of reverting his edits — I can't be bothered with it sometimes. Hopefully he'll let go of the bone soon. - Dudesleeper / Talk 18:25, 24 February 2008 (UTC)

You have email (eom)

Nada at this time... still waiting... The Rambling Man (talk) 19:41, 24 February 2008 (UTC)

Re: False Information

I changed the Ipswich and Rotherham formation dates as they were incorrect. Rotherham United were formed in 1925 by the merger of R. Town and R. County. Unless you know otherwise. Ipswich is a similar case, Ipswich AFC and Ipswich RFC merged in 1888 (ie 10 years after the date given - which is the foundation date of Ipswich AFC). It says so in their respective articles! Let me know if you see fit to change this back or not. Sarumio (talk) 21:02, 24 February 2008 (UTC)

No, the pattern for the formation date of other merged clubs suggests that the foundation date of the merged club should be displayed - look at the foundation dates of H&W, Dagenham & R, Carlisle Utd, Hayes & Yeading, Solihull Moors, Tooting & Mitcham etc etc etc. I believe i'm right in changing back RUFC's formation date. I'll look into Ipswich's.Sarumio (talk) 21:48, 24 February 2008 (UTC)
The Rotherham United article actually states that RUFC was formed in 1925 so your threat is pointless as I wouldnt be changing the date to anything different than to what is already in the article (on top of that R. Town and R. County have their own pages) Sarumio (talk) 22:14, 24 February 2008 (UTC)

Dover

Many thanks! I'll endeavour to take a butcher's at the England managers article today, and then I'll get back onto the next two I'm prepping for FA ;-) ChrisTheDude (talk) 08:12, 25 February 2008 (UTC)

England managers

BTW I noticed that in the PR someone mentioned a book called something like "The Second Toughest Job in England" - I noticed at the weekend that my local library has a copy of this book. I didn't get it out because my son chose that point to run off, and by the time I'd caught up with him and admonished him it had slipped my mind, but next time I'm there I'll try and get it out and see what good stuff it might have for the article........... ChrisTheDude (talk) 09:23, 25 February 2008 (UTC)

I've been through the article and given it what I think is a fairly thorough copy edit, hope that's cool. Just one quick point on content - although I'm too young to remember the events, I've read loads of articles down the years which refer to Don Revie "jumping ship" to manage in the Middle East and becoming a pariah as a result, is this worth putting in.........? ChrisTheDude (talk) 11:27, 26 February 2008 (UTC)
BTW Kudos on the first use I've ever seen on WP of the word "opprobrium" :-) ChrisTheDude (talk) 11:33, 26 February 2008 (UTC)

Movin on

I'll pop by for the Ginger Guru FA drive. On the England managers, there's that one outstanding section on Campaigns by the media to finish. There's material on the talk page, at WT:FOOTY and reffed in the article. We had an impressive win on Sat - impressive, because achieved with so many first choice players out. Roeder's demonstrated he knows how to put together a flexible squad. And our new Spanish acquisition could prove a useful find. --Dweller (talk) 10:23, 25 February 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for the heads-up. Someone told me about "reverting"... not quite sure what it means, but I'll look into it if the opportunity presents. --Dweller (talk) 11:56, 25 February 2008 (UTC)
Take a gander at this --Dweller (talk) 15:46, 25 February 2008 (UTC)
Hope you found my contribs at Davis helpful. Haven't the passion to sustain them though, esp in the face of opposition from the only person who seems to have done much for it in the past. Ho hum. Anyway, Eng managers - almost done. Just need to finish the Campaigns section and it's rock on to PR (and the other thingies on the to-do list). --Dweller (talk) 17:59, 25 February 2008 (UTC)
Just need to finish that one sub section, then go back to the to-do list for tidying, prep for PR. There'll be some citations that <ahem> aren't in MOS. --Dweller (talk) 15:17, 26 February 2008 (UTC)

I have nominated List of autonomous areas by country as a WP:FLC

I have nominated List of autonomous areas by country as a WP:FLC and I would be happy if you could review it and comment on the nomination at Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/List of autonomous areas by country. Thanks in advance! Gary King (talk) 11:15, 25 February 2008 (UTC)