User talk:Sunil060902

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I hope you enjoy editing here and being a Wikipedian! Please sign your messages on discussion pages using four tildes ~~~~; this will automatically insert your username and the date. If you need help, check out Wikipedia:Questions, ask me on my talk page, or ask your question and then place {{helpme}} before the question on your talk page. Again, welcome! --Siva1979Talk to me 14:59, 16 October 2007 (UTC)


Glad you decided to join up (o: -- if you need any help with anything just leave us a message on my talk page thing. User:Regan123 is more knowledgable than me in wikipedia things, and is another good place to go if you need help or advice C2r 22:38, 17 October 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Tube line renaming

Can you stop this please? You're doing it in such a haphazard way that you're breaking lots of links. --Mr Thant 10:43, 24 October 2007 (UTC)

Well, someone has to do it! I'm showing the way with the main article text, others will update the links. Best, Sunil060902 11:00, 24 October 2007 (UTC)
Doing it while breaking everything (the foreign language links especially) is no help to anyone. Please be more careful. --Mr Thant 11:30, 24 October 2007 (UTC)
I could do my Michael Winner Esure impression, but please provide a list of broken links (save for the Foreign ones) and I'll gladly re-instate them. Note that I haven't been through all the main LUL line articles yet. Best, Sunil060902 11:40, 24 October 2007 (UTC)

Once again, can I ask you to stop this. It's against official Wikipedia policy and will be reversed when I get the time. --Mr Thant 12:44, 25 October 2007 (UTC)

Just to let you know: there are no longer any broken links. Look at my reply to Iridescent below. So out of interest, will you be renaming c2c to "C2C"? Sunil060902 13:30, 25 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Renaming

There is a discussion regarding your unilateral bulk-renaming here - obviously, your input would be welcomed.

You forgot to sign off! regards, Sunil060902 09:26, 25 October 2007 (UTC)
I intentionally didn't as I'm notifying you on behalf of the project and not in my personal capacity, so don't "own" the comment - see WP:OWN#Do not sign what you do not own if you really care — iridescent 17:43, 25 October 2007 (UTC)
"On the other hand, when adding comments, questions, or votes to talk pages, it is good to "own" your text, so the best practice is to sign it by suffixing your entry with [four tildas]"—no spaces, no brackets, no quotes, nothing—just the four tildes anywhere in 'wikitext' will work." Sunil060902 16:12, 26 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Good Evening!

Why would I not be surprised that the name "Yoxley" would not be unfamiliar to you?  — MapsMan [ talk | cont ] — 21:08, 25 October 2007 (UTC)

Indeed I am, as you might guess from some of my contributions! I am "superbfc", as I was on here til recently  — MapsMan [ talk | cont ] — 22:46, 29 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Mixed capitals notice question

See q on WT:LT. Simply south 14:32, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] East London Line

Hello. I agree with you, but could you please change "Circle line" to read "East London line" on the page? Till next time, Maurice45 —Preceding comment was added at 14:34, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

Done it already! Best, Sunil060902 23:03, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Depeche Mode

Hi. I noticed your edit here. Wiki style does indeed require the use of periods in the abbreviation "U.S.", and "skeptical" is the U.S. English version of "sceptical". Per WP:ENGVAR, in an article about a British band we use British spelling. Hope that makes sense. --John (talk) 18:59, 29 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Stratford DLR (again?)

It is located here.
It is located here.

Now that both platforms of the new DLR station are open I presume the new footbridge must be open to. Unisouth (talk) 16:04, 11 December 2007 (UTC)

I said it isn't in place. Well, I only passed through this morning, and I didn't see it! But I will check again tonight just to make sure! Sunil060902 (talk) 16:23, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
Also, just to point in your diagram, the north face of the "Central line" is actually One "Great Eastern"! Sunil060902 (talk) 16:24, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
Yes that's great, if you didn't tell me I wouldn't know it was at night. I do not want to be a pain but perhapps one of the whole footbridge? We could then put that on the Stratford station article and ultimately have the image as the portals selected image! Unisouth (talk) 08:42, 12 December 2007 (UTC)
Ah yes that is what I was looking for! Thank you. Unisouth (talk) 08:25, 14 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] St Pancras Domestic?

Hi Sunil.

On my talk page you wrote:

St Pancras International in all probability refers to the whole station, domestic and Eurostar.

and added a gallery of pictures showing the use of that name on the Thameslink platforms.

I don't think it is as clear cut as you think. From their website [1] and the presense of those signs it looks to me like London & Continental properties (who run the station) agree with you, and apply the International suffix to the whole station. But if you then look at the NationalRail website (run by ATOC who speak for the UK's passenger operators as a whole), it seems that they think the International suffix applies only to the Eurostar portion of the station, and they apply a Domestic suffix to the rest. See [2] and [3].

Perhaps we need a naming section to explain this. -- Chris j wood (talk) 11:13, 21 December 2007 (UTC)

I've now contacted both National Rail Enquiries and London & Continental, and asked them to explain the confusion. If I get anything useful back, I'll try and work it into the article. Until then I'll leave the article as is. -- Chris j wood (talk) 11:38, 21 December 2007 (UTC)
East Midlands trains conductors seem to refer to it as London St Pancras International when doing their announcements Talltim (talk) 19:17, 27 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Your images...

Hi Sunil,

Would you be interested in poccilby letting me use some of your images on a GFDL MediaWiki wiki at http://train.spottingworld.com? We are trying to increase coverage of London Transport over there, and some of your images are just what we need!

Thanks,

Bluegoblin7 12:29, 13 January 2008 (UTC)

Yes, as long as I'm credited! My real name is Sunil Prasannan. best, Sunil060902 (talk) 11:56, 14 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] UK and full stops and all that...

Yes, thank you for pointing me to the WP:MOS. Perhaps you should be telling the relevant wikiproject so their articles comply with the policy. The Rambling Man (talk) 10:49, 21 February 2008 (UTC)

Yes I can see that. Several recent WP:FLCs on such discographies have included discussion over U.S. or US. You'd be as well to take it to the project to let them know. The Rambling Man (talk) 10:54, 21 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Good work here.... BUT....

Thank you for your contributions to Wikipedia. Regarding your edit(s) to Depeche Mode discography, it is recommended that you use the preview button before you save; this helps you find any errors you have made, and prevents clogging up recent changes and the page history. Thank you.

When doing major page overhauls, it may also benefit you to use the sandbox. - eo (talk) 16:58, 21 February 2008 (UTC)
Sorry! Yes, I know, though I often forget to preview! best, Sunil060902 (talk) 17:01, 21 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Depeche Mode discography

Hey, good work and congrats on the FL; it became an FL before I could register my support :). Thanks for showing me the light about US and U.S. It came as a surprise, "U.S." made more sense to me because I thought "US" could be mistaken as a capitalisation of the word "us". Then again, who knows with the MOS :) indopug (talk) 15:39, 23 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Images of stations

Yeah, keep up the good work !

--Whohe! (talk) 13:54, 25 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] SR Designators

I have emailed the Southern Electric Group about this and been informed that the correct way of writing SR designations is <number><space><upper case letter><lower vase letter><lower case letter>, with the exception of EPB which should be all uppercase. Hammersfan 02/03/08, 21.37 GMT

Interesting! It wasn't like that 20 years ago! I got the "Motive Power Recognition 3: EMUs" (dating from c.1985) and a couple of mid- to late-80s Ian Allan "ABCs" right here! Would be unusual for acronyms to be written in smaller case? Even more so given that EPB is just another acronym? best, Sunil060902 (talk) 23:51, 2 March 2008 (UTC)
This info is from the Chairman of the SEG, who are (although they say so themselves!) "the leading organisation for devotees of the UK “Southern Electric” system and is an authoritative source of information on the “Southern Electric” dc network". So I reckon they should know what they're talking about. Hammersfan 03/03/08, 09.20 GMT
While it may crave concistency, it prizes accuracy more highly, and to have all of them in capitals would be inaccurate. Hammersfan 03/03/08, 13.07 GMT
Well, what I'll say is do what I've done and ask them directly. Hammersfan 03/03/08, 14.10 GMT

[edit] WP:LOTD

Congratulations on your recent successful WP:FL promotion. You may be interested in taking part in our experimental procedure for the selecting lists of the day and lists of the month at WP:LOTD.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTD) 00:47, 13 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Fairlop Loop

Hi, I think it reads really well. It is filled with information people want to know. However, the opening paragraph might cause confusion as the line is still in use. It could do with some more references and perhaps and external link to an interesting site about the old railway companies and to TfLs website. All in all a very good article! Unisouth (talk) 13:33, 14 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Heathrow T5 station

I can honestly say I didn't see any signs prohibiting photography. I can't understand why they'd want to prohibit all photography and it isn't really feasible to do so anyway. The amount of tourists passing through the station who'll be taking photos as part of the holidays will be enormous and with most mobile phones having cameras, such a restriction is going to be impossible to uphold unless they confiscate everyone's cameras.

It is probably really only flash photography that they're concerned about, as is the case on the LU network where using a flash can obviously distract drivers. Security concerns aren't really an issue, as I've noted, there will be numerous images find their way into the public domain regardless of any rule and if anyone starts taking any closeup shots of anything sensitive then they can be prosecuted under the Terrorism Act anyway.

As I said in my edit summary, a couple of police officers saw what I was doing, as did station staff, neither said anything but I didn't starting asking permission admittedly so don't know what their official line would be even if they might turn a blind eye occasionally.

PS. Please add images to appropriate categories on Commons.

Regards. Adambro (talk) 21:42, 29 March 2008 (UTC)

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[edit] Arsenal F.C.

Hello. Just to let you know, I reversed your move of the Arsenal article, partly because it's a featured article, and partly because you made it the only article about a UK soccer club to have "FC" rather than "F.C." in the title. Best wishes, RobertG ♬ talk 13:18, 13 May 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for your note. I have no strong feelings about the F.C. thing - perhaps a mild preference for "F.C." - but I think a change of the scope you suggest should be discussed quite widely. Several of the F.C. articles are featured articles, and they were all accepted as featured with "F.C." in the title, from which it appears a consensus is already established. You quote the manual of style: later on it says, "In all of these matters, maintain consistency within an article" - and here we appear to have consistency over 1,211 articles. Is your suggestion "a solution in search of a problem"? Regards, RobertG ♬ talk 16:00, 13 May 2008 (UTC)

<shrugs> - if you think the de facto consensus (as seems likely from looking at Category:English football clubs) should be questioned, I suggest you take it up with the relevant projects. Wikipedia:WikiProject Football might be a good place to start, perhaps? Or start with Talk:Arsenal F.C. since that's the article you moved (I left a comment there when I reversed your move). It seems to me to be likely that this subject has come up somewhere before, and perhaps someone will be able to show you a previous discussion? And yes, the article would still be featured even if it were moved: my point was that it was accepted by the community as a featured article with the F.C. in place. Good luck! Best wishes, RobertG ♬ talk 16:23, 13 May 2008 (UTC)

OK, I essentially repeated the note above on Talk:Arsenal FC. (Look ma, no full stops LOL!) best, Sunil060902 (talk) 16:36, 13 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Essex Road

Hi there. Some of the T&W Metro stations are deep level tube construction. Haymarket and Central Station have twin tube tunnels, although the latter is underneath the National Rail station Newcastle Central (althogh physically separate from it). Monument has two sets of twin tube tunnels, one on the north-south line and one on the east-west line. At Gateshead and St James, the running lines are twin tube tunnels but the station platform areas are large 'box' constructions (like smaller versions of Canary Wharf tube station). At Jesmond the running lines are in twin tube tunnels immediately south of the station and in open air immediatelyy north of the station. A similar arrangemnt occurs at Manors. I believe the width of a Metrocar is 2.65m, only sightly narrower than a 313 (2.8m) - Metro trains share platforms with InterCity 125s at Sunderland station. The running tunnels will (if anything) be larger than the GNC&R tunnels, as they have room for the OHLE and an emergency side walkway. Hope that helps DrFrench (talk) 23:26, 30 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] INA, motivations

Hi Sunil. With regards to the photo of "Sikh" prisoners being shot, first of all I cant verify the source in the IWM website. Moreover, you mentioned that the threat of ill-treatment may have been a strong motivation to join up, whereas all the references I read cite mostly three factors for the INA recruits. These are the devaluation of the Raj and the vulnerability around the surrender at singapore, the prospect of a more successful career, and lastly (this is more post 1942) the charisma of Bose. I know there are mentions of threat of ill-treatment, but quite consistently, I am yet to read about forcible recruitment or of joining under duress, although some of the officer corps joined to prevent possible ill-treatment of their troops. One of the reasons why I moved the image is there is a strong PoV that the INA were "traitors", and that image to me seemed to be put in to imply this view point, which really is quite a strong PoV position. I admit I myself may be seeing it in a skewed light. I have not undone the revision, but would appreciate your views and comments. rueben_lys (talk · contribs) 09:37, 31 May 2008 (UTC)

Hi Rueben, I have given this some thought hence my delayed response, but if there is a doubt as to the source (and I assume date) of the photo I have changed the caption in INA to (hopefully) a much less POV one. I assume the photo was taken immediately after the Japanese success in Malaya/Singapore. So the unfortunate soldiers were shot simply for being "enemy" rather than "refusing to fight the enemy". Hope that's acceptable. best, Sunil060902 (talk) 09:45, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

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[edit] British Hit Singles and Albums

It certainly is a reliable source, but I'm still not convinced on the notability of the record. I would suggest that you try to reach a consensus with a few editors on the talk page before readding it. --JD554 (talk) 20:09, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] INA, controversies

Hi Sunil, I am glad to see your post on the INA talk page. As you mentioned, controversies arise from diametrically opposed viewpoints, and NPOV would require that you describe and evaluate both. Unfortunately, atleast one other editor felt I was creating a PoV fork, I am not sure why he/she may have thought this, but I am glad you chipped in. rueben_lys (talk · contribs) 21:38, 3 June 2008 (UTC)