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Ping

Check mail. RlevseTalk 17:02, 1 January 2008 (UTC)

Scouting WikiProject in the Signpost

We'll be in the Signpost on Wednesday, 2 Jan about 17:00 UTC, someone noticed us, be sure to read it, many of us get it, read it on my talk page if you like. RlevseTalk 01:59, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

FU images

Thanks for fixing those two images. I got four hits on my talk page. I went to the history of MB article and several more needing fixing, so I've done that. RlevseTalk 12:57, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

No problem. I was working those and got an edit conflict with you and let you finish the job. Went back to the Eagle List for a bit. --— Gadget850 (Ed) talk - 12:59, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

Camp Yawgoog

Thank you for your critique of Camp Yawgoog. Many of the changes you suggested have been implemented and I appreciate additional feedback.

--Mikemarseglia (talk) 14:07, 3 January 2008 (UTC)

Heh, I just left you a message! --— Gadget850 (Ed) talk - 14:09, 3 January 2008 (UTC)

Eagle Scouts

Per changes recently made to Christian Jacobs: Where are you doing your online search for Eagle Scouts? I just searched Google, Yahoo!, and Lycos for my own name and for the names of six other known Eagles, and came up with nothing. Unless you have access to the BSA official records, you ought not to be attempting these verifications. -- Struhs (talk) 20:39, 3 January 2008 (UTC)

I would not expect to find my own name either, as I don't meet notability. I'm working a backlog of entries for List of Eagle Scouts (Boy Scouts of America). I'm guessing someone added Jacobs at one point without a citation and the entry was removed to the todo list. Without a proper reference, he can't be added to the list and should not have the category. I did find news references for several other potential entries and got them properly added yesterday. We really can't use BSA records anyway since they are not published. --— Gadget850 (Ed) talk - 20:49, 3 January 2008 (UTC)

Boy Rangers of America

It ran the normal full course of 6 hours on DYK, at which time it was removed. All I did was credit the article and credit User talk:Truthanado who was listed in the next update. Royalbroil 13:30, 4 January 2008 (UTC)

Thanks; I had just figured that out and was going to get back to you, --— Gadget850 (Ed) talk - 14:14, 4 January 2008 (UTC)
Congratulations, the article was a DYK. I'm not sure why I was given credit, the article is clearly yours; all I did was nominate it. Good work. Truthanado (talk) 02:19, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
Updated DYK query On 4 January 2008, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Boy Rangers of America, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

--Royalbroil 05:08, 4 January 2008 (UTC)

Thanks. I never did a DYK before, so I was not aware of how it worked. --— Gadget850 (Ed) talk - 02:22, 5 January 2008 (UTC)

The Military history WikiProject Newsletter — Issue XXII (December 2007)

The Military history WikiProject Newsletter
Issue XXII (December 2007)
Project news
Articles of note

New featured articles:

  1. Battle of Albuera
  2. Battle of Dyrrhachium (1081)
  3. Battle of the Gebora
  4. Constantine II of Scotland
  5. Francis Harvey
  6. Vasa (ship)
  7. Wulfhere of Mercia

New A-Class articles:

  1. 1962 South Vietnamese Presidential Palace bombing
  2. Evacuation of East Prussia
Current proposals and discussions
Awards and honors
  • Blnguyen has been awarded the WikiChevrons with Oak Leaves in recognition of his efforts in improving the quality of articles related to Vietnamese military history, including the creation of numerous A-Class articles.
  • Woodym555 has been awarded the WikiChevrons with Oak Leaves in recognition of his outstanding work on topics related to the Victoria Cross, notably including the creation of featured articles, featured lists, and a featured topic.
  • For their outstanding efforts as part of Tag & Assess 2007, Bedford, TomStar81, and Parsival74 have been awarded the gold, silver, and bronze Wikis, respectively.
Tag & Assess 2007

Tag & Assess 2007 is now officially over, with slightly under 68,000 articles processed. The top twenty scores are as follows:

1. Bedford — 7,600
2. TomStar81 — 5,500
3. Parsival74 — 5,200
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8. Cromdog — 2,200
9. BrokenSphere — 2000
9. Jacksinterweb — 2,000
9. Maralia — 2,000
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Template with lots of field

Hi Ed, I noticed your copy-editing of the citing templates the Boy Scouting (Boy Scouts of America) article. Importantly you removed spacing betwee the fields: from 'first = John | last = Doe | authorlink = John Doe' to 'first=John|last=Doe|authorlink=John Doe'. This leads to difficult line wrapping for editors, clearly showing up when once looks at diffs. Is this something you did intentionally, and if so why? Wim van Dorst (talk) 21:00, 14 January 2008 (UTC).

My mistake- I was clearing out unused fields and killed some spacing. It is fixed now. --— Gadget850 (Ed) talk - 21:49, 14 January 2008 (UTC)
Actually, I wasn't pointing out an error or something, but merely asking how come you did it like this? Wim van Dorst (talk) 21:52, 14 January 2008 (UTC).
There were a number of fields in the citation templates that were not being used; it is considered a goo practice to not include unused fields as they clutter up editing. When I do this sort of cleanup, I copy the text into an Ultraedit window and use the replace feature to search and delete entries. I must have killed the spaces doing that. --— Gadget850 (Ed) talk - 22:08, 14 January 2008 (UTC)
I 'recently' upgraded from vi to Vim, on Unix ;-). Thanks for the explanation. Wim van Dorst (talk) 22:24, 14 January 2008 (UTC).
Ahhh... the joys of vi and printer codes. --— Gadget850 (Ed) talk - 23:40, 14 January 2008 (UTC)

E. Urner Goodman

Could you look at this and see what you think it needs for Aclass? Leave on talk there or edit as you like. RlevseTalk 11:19, 15 January 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for cleaning up the LCCN reference. I was unaware of {{LCCN}} and in fact had looked unsuccessfully for a better way to cite non-isbn books at the LOC, other than manually constructing an id. I see you've deleted the two EUG award images, so I've rm the links/rationales to the EUGoodman article on those two images' pages, accordingly. Cheers, JGHowes talk - 19:12, 17 January 2008 (UTC)
You did most of the work, and thanks to you for that! {{LCCN}} is documented at {{cite book}}, but could be better placed. --— Gadget850 (Ed) talk - 19:45, 17 January 2008 (UTC)


Disputed fair use rationale for Image:The Keep.jpg

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Returning

After much thought and deliberation I have decided to return. Many wikians contacted me by various means and I truly appreciate the support from all of them. Man, did I need that wiki break! I have learned from it and will use the experience to improve. RlevseTalk 19:39, 21 January 2008 (UTC)

Good. I'm still going to finish that email to you that I was trying to compose in my head while freezing my butt off at Klondike derby this weekend. --— Gadget850 (Ed) talk - 19:54, 21 January 2008 (UTC)
Har har. Have fun? RlevseTalk 20:04, 21 January 2008 (UTC)
Yes I did, I think it got down below 10° here. I think I got a couple of good photos- haven't looked at them yet (Monday is conference call hell day at work). --— Gadget850 (Ed) talk - 20:06, 21 January 2008 (UTC)

Sockpuppetry case

Per your "fishy" comment on User talk:SchuminWeb, I've started a sockpuppet case. Nwwaew (Talk Page) (Contribs) (E-mail me) 03:40, 28 January 2008 (UTC)

See here, I've indef blocked both of them. RlevseTalk 04:08, 28 January 2008 (UTC)
Thanks. Thought this was stalking. --— Gadget850 (Ed) talk - 11:54, 28 January 2008 (UTC)

Your recent edits

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Rollback

Would you be interested in having rollback to revert vandalism? I would gladly assign the user-rights if you want it. I trust that you will not abuse this privilege and you will find it useful if you ever need to revert vandalism from pages you have watchlisted. Let me know, -MBK004 23:58, 28 January 2008 (UTC)

Sure. I use Twinkle, but every tool helps. --— Gadget850 (Ed) talk - 00:08, 29 January 2008 (UTC)
Not a problem. If you decide you don't want the tool, ask an admin to remove it. Take a look at these two places before using rollback:
-MBK004 00:13, 29 January 2008 (UTC)
This has some interesting capabilities- I will have to test this out. --— Gadget850 (Ed) talk - 00:25, 29 January 2008 (UTC)

Does this count?

I was going to ask you to look at this Eagle Scout Leadership Service Project. Thanks. --evrik (talk) 18:19, 29 January 2008 (UTC)

Not interested. --— Gadget850 (Ed) talk - 18:27, 29 January 2008 (UTC)

Camp Raymond (BSA)

Regarding the announcement that you have removed this article from your watchlist: Uh, what's the point? - Realkyhick (Talk to me) 18:51, 29 January 2008 (UTC)

Someone else can watch the 300 odd articles I removed from my watchlist today. --— Gadget850 (Ed) talk - 18:55, 29 January 2008 (UTC)
My point is: Why did you feel compelled to make this announcement on the talk pages, complete with {{ambox}}? Everyone else just takes an article off their watchlist and goes away. Why the grand exit? - Realkyhick (Talk to me) 19:27, 29 January 2008 (UTC)
I can't give you a better answer today than "just because." Dealing with camp articles is no fun anymore and I refuse to deal with them any more. --— Gadget850 (Ed) talk - 19:32, 29 January 2008 (UTC)
Sounds like a good enough reason to me. That number of articles can be a pain. Sometimes I think about throwing in the towel when I'm on new-page patrol, and I see the umpteenth article about a garage band that is supposedly notable because they're an important influence on the zydeco scene in Oshkosh, Wisconsin or something like that. Yeesh. - Realkyhick (Talk to me) 20:33, 29 January 2008 (UTC)

diacriticals

Ed, why are you removing the diacritics when you change the templates? You're breaking wikilinks. Are you retyping them or something? Chris (クリス • フィッチ) (talk) 04:06, 30 January 2008 (UTC)

Diacritics? Give me an example. --— Gadget850 (Ed) talk - 04:08, 30 January 2008 (UTC)
Hang on. I'm using an external editor and it might have done something. --— Gadget850 (Ed) talk - 04:11, 30 January 2008 (UTC)
I need to figure out why Ultraedit is doing that, but it looks like you fixed my goofs. I finished the WOSM stuff and will work the WAGGS templates tomorrow. Let me know of there are any style issues. --— Gadget850 (Ed) talk - 04:24, 30 January 2008 (UTC)

ArrowCorps5

Good morning Ed,

fyi, I've tagged Image:Masthead1.jpg ifd. Also, User:Falcofire had rv'd your edit, which I rv'd back to yours. JGHowes talk - 17:14, 30 January 2008 (UTC)

I saw that. I was giving him the opportunity to fix it himself, but that did not seem to work. --— Gadget850 (Ed) talk - 17:21, 30 January 2008 (UTC)
Always happy to do my good turn for the day! Jim JGHowes talk - 20:49, 30 January 2008 (UTC)

Military history WikiProject coordinator election

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Sakuwit Lodge

Why would you remove information from Sakuwit Lodge 2 and cite the fact that it was taken from Sakuwit.org as a rational? I wrote that history for Sakuwit.org and had full permission to use it from the owner of the website. - Brandon Rhea (talk) 05:41, 1 February 2008 (UTC)

Text from another site is always regarded as copyrighted unless there is a notice on the site explicitly releasing it. I am no longer involved with lodge articles, so do as you will. --— Gadget850 (Ed) talk - 11:22, 1 February 2008 (UTC)

Abandoning

Gadget, why would you post [[1]]? I don't understand... —ScouterSig 23:25, 1 February 2008 (UTC)

I no longer edit or watch Scouting articles of a non-national level. --— Gadget850 (Ed) talk - 23:46, 1 February 2008 (UTC)
Well, what I meant was, "Why would you make a template to say that? Why not just stop watching?" (And to avoid sounding angry, THANK YOU for all your work, on whatever level.) —ScouterSig 18:49, 7 February 2008 (UTC)

TfD nomination of Template:Testcases

Template:Testcases has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the template's entry on the Templates for Deletion page. Thank you. — Gadget850 (Ed) talk - 23:27, 2 February 2008 (UTC)

New task

User_talk:Rlevse#FA_thanks RlevseTalk 23:10, 3 February 2008 (UTC)

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TfD nomination of Template:ZHP

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Shenandoah Acres

I've gone ahead and done a full history merge with the original article and the one you've userfied. This gives you a few benefits. First of all, when we eventually restore this article to the main namespace, all you have to do is a simple move. Secondly, this brings anyone who had Shenandoah Acres watchlisted on board with the userfied page (i.e. this carried over on their watchlists). SchuminWeb (Talk) 05:16, 6 February 2008 (UTC)

Thanks- I did not know that could be done. --— Gadget850 (Ed) talk - 08:18, 6 February 2008 (UTC)
Gadget, I have notes on how to do this on my toolbox page. RlevseTalk 11:02, 6 February 2008 (UTC)

Mic-O-Say

Thanks for rewording that; you're right that there isn't much else to the article. The only reason I watch it is to keep tabs on vandalism. Justinm1978 (talk) 17:13, 6 February 2008 (UTC)

With about 1500 articles in my watchlist, I have to let some stuff go. I dropped almost 500 articles over the last week or so. --— Gadget850 (Ed) talk - 17:16, 6 February 2008 (UTC)
I just tried to add an image to the infobox on this one, it won't take. Help? Chris (クリス • フィッチ) (talk) 17:18, 9 February 2008 (UTC)
Read Template:Infobox WorldScouting/doc; if the image size param is included but not set, this image name shows. --— Gadget850 (Ed) talk - 17:21, 9 February 2008 (UTC)

Template EurScout

That's the one I had e-mailed you personally "There is one other mismatched template I am hesitant to hand over, I'm proud of it, it's goodlooking and it is one of the last remaining fingerprints of my work from before I lost Sheri. The topic is small enough that it is in only one article. I have to think on this." and I wish you had said something before you posted it publicly. :( Chris (クリス • フィッチ) (talk) 01:23, 8 February 2008 (UTC)

<sigh> I did not do the math. --— Gadget850 (Ed) talk - 02:08, 8 February 2008 (UTC)
It's okay, brother, and if it is archaic, I will bend to the Project, it's just one of my last holdouts and one of the few things I've done that hasn't needed to be retooled.
As per changing the base color to green for the templates, I saw the Exile one and I like it, I prefer the green, I give it three thumbs up! :) Chris (クリス • フィッチ) (talk) 17:04, 9 February 2008 (UTC)
I would also suggest merging Template:Polish scouting ranks into our new improved template. Chris (クリス • フィッチ) (talk) 18:28, 9 February 2008 (UTC)
Do you mean merge {{Polish scouting ranks}} into {{Scouting in Poland}}? --— Gadget850 (Ed) talk - 18:37, 9 February 2008 (UTC)

Hillcourt

Great work on this! Do you want to take it through GA first? How much more do you feel is needed before FAC? RlevseTalk 11:08, 8 February 2008 (UTC)

  1. Thoughts on the above?
  2. Since he had a worldwide influence, should we add him to the Scouting template at the bottom of the articles? RlevseTalk 03:41, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

Needs some images and some polish. We should ask Jim to give it an eyeball. I added the Scouting template. --— Gadget850 (Ed) talk - 04:46, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

Yea, I already asked him. Shouldn't he be in the notable leaders section of the navbox and listed therein? What do you think? RlevseTalk 04:48, 10 February 2008 (UTC)


Disputed fair use rationale for Image:Warsaw in the Sun shape (TD).jpg

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replacing album cover images with inferior versions

Why are you replacing all of the album cover images for Tangerine Dream albums with inferior versions? Please revert your changes unless you have a good reason. Thanks. Kaldari (talk) 17:11, 15 February 2008 (UTC)

Inferior is a bit vague, but I am going to presume you mean smaller. My watchlist showed that a large number of these had invalid rationales, including images that I had uploaded and those I had done rationales for before the template was available. Instead of just updating the rationales, I decided to move to PNG versions. Since the infobox only shows 200px, I don't see the need for larger sizes. I think all of the covers I had uploaded previously were only 300px, and others were a variety of sizes. All of these are cover scans from LPs in my collection, originally saved in Paint Shop Pro raw format at some large size (I don't recall the exact size at the moment) and later converted to the smaller PNG images. I did about 40 images yesterday; if you have a concern with any particular images, please let me know. --— Gadget850 (Ed) talk - 17:48, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
And no, I have no problem with you replacing images. PNG is much better because you don't get artifacts when the image is resized. --— Gadget850 (Ed) talk - 17:57, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
Your images have terrible compression artifacts. You either need to dramatically increase the color palate on your PNGs or start saving them as PNG-24s instead of PNG-8s. The whole purpose of using PNGs over JPEGs is defeated when you overcompress the PNGs to start with. Kaldari (talk) 23:57, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
Can you give me a specific example? --— Gadget850 (Ed) talk - 00:07, 16 February 2008 (UTC)

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Disputed fair use rationale for Image:Sorcerer.png

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February 2008

Welcome to Wikipedia. Although everyone is welcome to make constructive contributions to Wikipedia, at least one of your recent edits, such as the one you made to Norman Rockwell, did not appear to be constructive and has been reverted or removed. Please use the sandbox for any test edits you would like to make, and take a look at the welcome page to learn more about contributing to this encyclopedia. Thank you. THE KC (talk) 02:14, 22 February 2008 (UTC).

I have absolutely no clue. My last edit to Rockwell was to fix a reference link, it has not been reverted and you have not edited that article. --— Gadget850 (Ed) talk - 02:29, 22 February 2008 (UTC)

Scout article renames

You have recently recommended the renaming of numerous Scout-related articles. However, you have not completed the process at WP:RM. If you are still interested in these moves, please go through the entire process as explained at WP:RM. If not, please remove the {{move}} (or similar) template from the articles' talk pages. Thank you. JPG-GR (talk) 18:58, 22 February 2008 (UTC)

Since I am doing it wrong, I'm going to stop putting move tags on pages and simply list them on the Scouting watchlist for discussion. I don't see any other way of doing this without going through an extra process that really is not required. --— Gadget850 (Ed) talk - 01:47, 25 February 2008 (UTC)
Fine with me Gadget, esp since the ScoutingProject renames/moves rarely get any outside involvement. RlevseTalk 02:00, 25 February 2008 (UTC)
Looks like there were changes to the guideline in December. As best I see it, the tags are now only for admin related moves. --— Gadget850 (Ed) talk - 02:01, 25 February 2008 (UTC)
Nothing regarding the policy or procedure of WP:RM has changed in a long, long time. The only thing that changed in December are the templates that are used. I have removed the {{move}} templates from the articles you tagged. JPG-GR (talk) 18:29, 25 February 2008 (UTC)
WP:RM is only for moves that require admin assistance. We can just go ahead and move these articles because the target (as far as I know) is not being used. We do however need to flag this first on the relevant talk pages to see if anyone objects. --Bduke (talk) 00:02, 26 February 2008 (UTC)
All have discussions. --— Gadget850 (Ed) talk - 01:39, 26 February 2008 (UTC)

Stuff

Where's the other pulpandpaper image? Watch the IP trying to add himself (likely) to the Eagle list. RlevseTalk 22:53, 23 February 2008 (UTC)

Image:Mb091c.gif as linked from the orphaned replaced template. We should not have two copies and the other is part of the merit badge set. --— Gadget850 (Ed) talk - 02:25, 24 February 2008 (UTC)

OK, I deleted the other one and fixed the FUR on Mb091c.gif. RlevseTalk 02:04, 25 February 2008 (UTC)

External links

The discrepancy puzzled me as well, but on further reflection it makes sense. I realised that the two types of links have two entirely different purposes. External links (as in, the ones grouped at the end with no specific citation) are for the reader who wishes to explore the topic further. It's unkind to spur that curiousity and then have it dashed by going through a paywall. References, on the other hand, are there to confirm the factual nature of a claim. It seems sensible to allow editors to cast their net as wide as possible when looking for an external citation to back up a claim. Peer-reviewed journal articles, for instance, are almost exclusively behind a subscription page, and it would seriously damage the credibility of the encyclopedia if we weren't allowed to use those as support for what we write. Orpheus (talk) 03:39, 27 February 2008 (UTC)

List of Eagle Scouts (Boy Scouts of America)

//Note: In your list of Eagle Scout Articles you removed a name that can be referenced. By contacting the BSA and the Eagle Scouts of America you can confirm the legitimacy of the name mentioned and the title he holds. The name I am referring to can be viewed in the recent history of edits on the page. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 141.219.21.97 (talk) 19:27, 28 February 2008 (UTC)

I presume you are referring to:
  • Anthony R Giesey; Youngest to receive the award in the 21st century.a[›]
This is not "my" list, simply a list that I and other editors maintain. Simply because Giesey is a fellow Eagle Scout does not make him notable. There are clear criteria for inclusion listed on the talk page; when you edited the article you had to have seen the notice referring you to that criteria. If by title you mean "youngest", how is that notable? You added a reference to the Distinguished Eagle Scout list; Giesey is not listed, thus the use of that reference is spurious. If you can establish notability, we will be glad to help you add a properly referenced entry. When you get out of class, you should create an account here. --— Gadget850 (Ed) talk - 19:58, 28 February 2008 (UTC)
Meet the FL criteria, notability criteria for wiki, and properly ref it, and we may be able to work this. I personally know a 16-year old that made Eagle at 12y9m back in 2004. I can prove it too. Were you younger than that when you made Eagle and can you prove it? Even if you could, that alone would not meet notability criteria for being on wiki. RlevseTalk 21:10, 28 February 2008 (UTC)

Adminship?

Have you ever given any thought to going through an RFA? I'm considering nominating you, but want to know what you think first. SchuminWeb (Talk) 01:33, 2 March 2008 (UTC)

I've asked him that before, but he wasn't interested. He'd make a superb admin and I hope he accepts this time. I'd nom or co-nom too. RlevseTalk 01:40, 2 March 2008 (UTC)

Gah! I do enough administrative work here cleaning up things and not enough writing as it is. I appreciate the thought Ben, but if I become an admin, people will want me do do other crap. --— Gadget850 (Ed) talk - 01:42, 2 March 2008 (UTC)

It's as much or as little admin work as you want to do, it's voluntary too. Bduke only uses his bit when he wants to. Refer anything else you don't want to do admin-wise to me if you want. Trust me, it comes in very handy sometimes. RlevseTalk 01:54, 2 March 2008 (UTC)
What the heck. OK. --— Gadget850 (Ed) talk - 11:37, 2 March 2008 (UTC)

COOL! Put an accept statement here, answer the questions, then we can transclude it. RlevseTalk 15:15, 2 March 2008 (UTC)

Make sure it goes online soon. I need to support! Rudget. 18:00, 2 March 2008 (UTC)
And we're off! RlevseTalk 17:27, 3 March 2008 (UTC)
Done --— Gadget850 (Ed) talk - 16:18, 3 March 2008 (UTC)

The Military history WikiProject Newsletter : Issue XXIV (February 2008)

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Peers who were also baronets

Your views are sought at Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Baronetcies#Peers_who_were_Baronets - Kittybrewster 23:17, 5 March 2008 (UTC)


Disputed fair use rationale for Image:Miracle Mile.png

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Fixed Nothing wrong on this one. --— Gadget850 (Ed) talk - 11:51, 9 March 2008 (UTC)

Your warning of IP 64.105.35.149

A self-revert should not be warned with a vandalism template. That's what Template:uw-selfrevert is for. -- Zsero (talk) 09:22, 9 March 2008 (UTC)

OK. I think I applied that to the first edit made by the IP; I got distracted while editing the user page, which accounts for the slight time difference. --— Gadget850 (Ed) talk - 11:54, 9 March 2008 (UTC)

congratulations

A consensus has been reached by your peers that you should be an admin. I have made it so. Please review Wikipedia:Administrators' reading list and keep up the great work. Sincerely, Kingturtle (talk) 17:36, 10 March 2008 (UTC)

Congrats, and best wishes on your adminship - May all your dramas be quickly archived! UltraExactZZ Claims ~ Evidence 17:49, 10 March 2008 (UTC)

Thank you, and thanks to all who supported me. --— Gadget850 (Ed) talk - 17:52, 10 March 2008 (UTC)

OOH RAH! Well deserved! Congrats Mucho! RlevseTalk 18:21, 10 March 2008 (UTC)

Congratulations! SchuminWeb (Talk) 18:28, 10 March 2008 (UTC)

100% support! Good work, keep it up. Tiptoety talk 18:50, 10 March 2008 (UTC)
Congrats on becoming a Admin I have no doubt that you'll be a great sysop! :) --Mifter (talk) 18:56, 10 March 2008 (UTC)

Template interwikis

yes i know, didn't check these edits yet, thank you for notice, this was just a few templates - will check them, best regards ;o) --Dalibor Bosits © 23:53, 10 March 2008 (UTC)

A lot of templates use subpages for the documentation and interwikis go on the doc page. --— Gadget850 (Ed) talk - 00:53, 11 March 2008 (UTC)

MfD nomination of User:Allstarecho/scouts

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Distinguished Eagle

Sorry about my misunderstanding of the link for that page. Thanks for your correction! --Eustress (talk) 20:57, 13 March 2008 (UTC)

You're welcome. That's why I left the detailed edit summary. --— Gadget850 (Ed) talk - 21:06, 13 March 2008 (UTC)

Fijian Stub

How did I do working the Fijian people stub? Is this what you want?

thanks,

MDaisy (talk) 19:45, 18 March 2008 (UTC)MDaisy

Sorry, but I have no clue what you are asking here. --— Gadget850 (Ed) talk - 20:07, 18 March 2008 (UTC)

I was asking about whether the style of writing was what you had in mind. I am trying to figure out how to do the citations correctly too.

That's all,

thanks,

MDaisyMDaisy (talk) 22:45, 18 March 2008 (UTC)

WikiProject Scouting has a tutorial on references at WP:S-REF. --— Gadget850 (Ed) talk - 23:32, 18 March 2008 (UTC)

A Time For Heroes

The word "for" was changed to "For" because that song's name contains the word "For" and not "for". -Lwc4life (talk) 20:51, 22 March 2008 (UTC)

You are right, the cover font is a bit confusing. --— Gadget850 (Ed) talk - 21:06, 22 March 2008 (UTC)

WikiProject Council roll call

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just in case my e-mail didn't send

Hi Ed, would you make collapsible Template:Kazakhstan topics, and also send me a test e-mail? I think something is wrong with my e-mail. Thanks! Chris (クリス • フィッチ) (talk) 06:25, 26 March 2008 (UTC)

Updated the template. Got your email and replied. --— Gadget850 (Ed) talk - 10:20, 26 March 2008 (UTC)
And the change was reverted by User:BernardTom. --— Gadget850 (Ed) talk - 12:49, 26 March 2008 (UTC)

Okay, my e-mail is messed up, nothing from anyone for two weeks. :( That editor (see his talk page) automatically reverts any changes he sees to about a dozen articles he believes are his property, and his English is horrid. Since you are an admin, or if you know a more seasoned admin who knows more ropes, can something be done? Chris (クリス • フィッチ) (talk) 20:40, 26 March 2008 (UTC)

I'm receiving your messages OK. Your Hotmail inbox isn't full perhaps? Let me know if you want a Gmail account. --— Gadget850 (Ed) talk - 20:47, 26 March 2008 (UTC)

Religious Emblem approved for Unitarian Universalist youth

There is good news. There is now a Religious Emblem for Unitarian Universalist youth. For more information take a look at http://www.scouter.com/forums/viewThread.asp?threadID=88667&p=5 Yours in Scouting-Phips (talk) 23:06, 30 March 2008 (UTC)

I've been a participant in that discussion. While it sounds like there is a solution, there are no references yet. --— Gadget850 (Ed) talk - 01:02, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

help in creating a quotation template

Hi there. I was wondering if you could help me get info. about creating a quotation template like '{{Quote box2}}'. I'm trying to create a template that has the big quotation marks and standard sized text (like in {{Rquote}}), but where there are options to change the background colour, border and float to right etc. In have 'created' {{Rquote2}}, but I want more versatility. Can you help ? Thanks. MP (talkcontribs) 17:53, 1 April 2008 (UTC)

The Military history WikiProject Newsletter : Issue XXV (March 2008)

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Orphaned non-free media (Image:Barnstar Scout 2.png)

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Old proposed image- let it go. --— Gadget850 (Ed) talk - 12:58, 7 April 2008 (UTC)

Replacing breaks

Thanks, I was aware of that and I know its trivial. I do it along with other edits because it adds consistency to the articles that I frequently browse and edit and I usually only do it if there are other edits on the page as well. That way I do the trivial edits at the same time I do the more important ones to limit the strain on the processor. Let me know if you see anything else.--Kumioko (talk) 15:17, 7 April 2008 (UTC)

To be honest I was under the impression that the server replaced the "
" to "
" and thats why I was doing that. I can change but I would like to verify that first. To answer your question I use AWB to do a lot of edits like that, typos, adding specific items (such as categories and portal links, adding info to the see also sections, etc). It allows you to scan entire categories of articles (it has other sort methods also but thats the one I use most frequently) to look for things like a find and replace rather than doing it one article at a time. Please let me know if you have any other questions and I will do a little research on the break issue. If you know of a reference or a link please let me know. No offense I just like to verify things before I do them.--Kumioko (talk) 16:01, 7 April 2008 (UTC)--Kumioko (talk) 16:01, 7 April 2008 (UTC)

Directing questions to the Ref Desk

Hi! While referral of questions to the appropriate Desks is generally helpful, take care not to bounce questions that we can't answer from the Help Desk to the Reference Desk: [2]. Questions that seek medical or legal advice are beyond the scope of the Ref Desk; those questions should be referred to a qualified professional. Cheers! TenOfAllTrades(talk) 14:44, 21 April 2008 (UTC)

Right- I copied the wrong template tag. Fixed. --— Gadget850 (Ed) talk - 16:06, 21 April 2008 (UTC)

STAR

Barnstar

I think you deserve this barnstar. I see you at the help desk nearly every day. I have never got a barnstar (even though i'm literally at the help desk everyday), and since I would love one, I think you would too. SimpsonsFan08 (talk) 19:53, 24 April 2008 (UTC)

The Help Desk Barnstar
I think you deserve this. I see you at the help desk nearly every day. SimpsonsFan08 (talk) 19:59, 24 April 2008 (UTC)

{{subst:The Help Desk Barnstar|I think you deserve this. I see you at the help desk nearly every day. [[User:SimpsonsFan08|SimpsonsFan08]] ([[User talk:SimpsonsFan08|talk]]) 19:59, 24 April 2008 (UTC)}}

Thanks, but $deity knows why I do this. Guess it takes my mind off of answering tech support calls all day long. --— Gadget850 (Ed) talk - 20:00, 24 April 2008 (UTC)
It's fine. I wish I got this barnstar, so I thought you would like it too. SimpsonsFan08 (talk) 20:03, 24 April 2008 (UTC)

Help desk replies

Hi, I noticed on this help desk question that you were rather unhelpful. Wikipedia does use TeX in the <math> commands, so he could be asking a legitimate question, in which case his question was put in pretty much the right place. -mattbuck (Talk) 07:54, 27 April 2008 (UTC)