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[edit] List of projects and taskforces

I guess let's try to pick up where we left off. Here was the compiled list from the previous discussion. (Guyinblack25 talk 22:49, 30 January 2008 (UTC))

<big>'''Inactive Projects'''</big> * <s>[[Wikipedia:WikiProject Warcraft]]</s> * <s>[[Wikipedia:WikiProject Dragon Quest]]</s> * [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Arcade games]] * [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Pinball]] * [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Strategy games]] * <s>[[Wikipedia:WikiProject TimeSplitters]]</s> * [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Castlevania]] * <s>[[Wikipedia:WikiProject Artix Entertainment]]</s> <small>Looks to have started up again</small> * [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Massively multiplayer online games]] * [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Pro Gaming]] <big>'''Inactive task forces'''</big> * [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Massively multiplayer online games/Guild Wars|Guild Wars task force]] * [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Massively multiplayer online games/Neopets|Neopets task force]] * [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Video games/Tycoon games]]

[edit] Methodology

So what do we do for these projects? Blank them, state they are inactive, and direct discussion to WP:VG? Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs (talk) 20:57, 16 April 2008 (UTC)

I don't think we need to blank them. I remember someone mentioning downgrading the projects to taskforces with a subpage on the VG Project name space. I think a simple move should facilitate it. As to what to do for inactive taskforces, I'm not sure. At the very least, they should all be slapped with an inactive tag. (Guyinblack25 talk 21:41, 16 April 2008 (UTC))

I'd like to add Wikipedia:WikiProject Massively multiplayer online games to the list of inactives. I'd be interested in looking at what the process is for closing some of these projects down, as there's a lot of banners etc on talkpages that would need to be cleaned up as well. My gut feeling would be to take it on a case-by-case basis to see if a project should be downgraded to a taskforce or deleted, as I'm guessing one of the aims is to concentrate discussion to a reasonable level. Maybe we could step through and review each one to decide how to proceed? Gazimoff (talk) 22:39, 16 April 2008 (UTC)

I guess we can bring each one up here for the case by case... how exactly would we 'downgrade' an entire project to a task force? Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs (talk) 11:48, 17 April 2008 (UTC)
To be honest, I'm not sure. I don't think something like this has been done before, and if it has I don't know what procedure to follow. One thought that comes to mind is a simple move or putting in a request to move. We may want to get some outside feedback on this too; maybe the Village pump. (Guyinblack25 talk 17:27, 17 April 2008 (UTC))
I guess I could help move them then. Let's start with Wikipedia:WikiProject Warcraft- we would move it to Wikipedia:WikiProject Video games/Warcraft, delete the old extraneous subpages, and then tag with a custom tag, saying "This was previously a wikiproject, which is no longer active. Consult WT:VG about reactivating the page" or something like that? Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs (talk) 23:40, 17 April 2008 (UTC)
That sounds like a good place to start. It's been tagged as inactive for almost a year. I guess we'll use this one to test the waters and see what comes of it, and hopefully move forward with the rest soon after. (Guyinblack25 talk 00:12, 18 April 2008 (UTC))

[edit] Warcraft and Starcraft

I created a custom tag and migrated the pages, take a look. Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs (talk) 23:49, 18 April 2008 (UTC) (outdent) I like it, it's a bold move, although I'd like to clean the shiny new taskforce page so that I can use it for some centralised discussion on the World of Warcraft articles (I know, perfect timing :) ), as we're currently using an article talk page. I'd also like to clean up the WP templates that are on the various article talkpages, as they're now out of date. I'll probably start a discussion on WP:COUNCIL for advice on how to go about this cleanup, but if it gets more discussion and debate going as well as pulling mroe people into WP:VG in general, that has to be a good thing. Gazimoff (talk) 22:24, 19 April 2008 (UTC)

Ok, I'll look over the other wikiprojects and start on hacking them up and migrating them when I have time. I'm just deleting the subpages, as (so far) I haven't found anything of worth to migrate all the tiny pages over. Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs (talk) 23:38, 19 April 2008 (UTC)
I'll get on to cleaning up Category:WikiProject Warcraft tomorrow - it'll mean some template changes and tweaks, probably some rename requests too. Shouldn't take long.--Gazimoff (talk) 00:33, 20 April 2008 (UTC)
All unneeded pages are now tagged at this MfDGazimoff (talk) 11:08, 20 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] TimeSplitters

Further information: Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Video games/Archive 40#Rebooting the Inactive project cleanup work

FYI- MfD page for Wikipedia:WikiProject TimeSplitters. (Guyinblack25 talk 16:11, 21 April 2008 (UTC))

Update- Project page has been deleted. Which one next? (Guyinblack25 talk 21:11, 27 April 2008 (UTC))
I'm for taking on the task forces, myself. MfD all of them; my !votes would lie as follows: Guild Wars: Delete (small scope and no activity; more detail on MfD when we do that), Neopets: Delete (even smaller scope), and Tycoon games: Redirect.
Also, I'd like to propose that we bring the last task force of WP:MMO under VG's tree, as MMO lies abandoned while the TF does not. However, it might be better to address that when we deal with MMO. Have there ever been anything such as mini-task forces? --Izno (talk) 03:13, 17 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Not sure where list came from

But Wikipedia:WikiProject_Council/Directory/Culture/Games#Video_games might be pertinent. I was randomly browsing and stumbled into this; I haven't cross checked for which projects are listed here that aren't listed there (etc etc). --Izno (talk) 06:55, 24 April 2008 (UTC)

Thanks, it looks a bit outdated, but it'll help keep tabs on all the various projects. (Guyinblack25 talk 15:59, 24 April 2008 (UTC))

[edit] Dragon Quest

WP:WP Dragon Quest, I think. All of 6 articles; I'd prolly go with full deletion as with TimeSplitters. --Izno (talk) 21:26, 27 April 2008 (UTC)

Actually, I think it has more than 6; see Template:Dragon Quest series. This might do better as a taskforce, but under Wikipedia:WikiProject Square Enix instead of the VG Project. Any thoughts? (Guyinblack25 talk 21:31, 27 April 2008 (UTC))
Works for me. I'm sure they'd appreciate it more than their parent will. Drop them a Wikiproject talk page note about it. --Izno (talk) 21:38, 27 April 2008 (UTC)
Cool, I left a note on their talk page. I guess we wait and see. (Guyinblack25 talk 15:33, 28 April 2008 (UTC))
Interesting update, the Square Enix Project has had a dip in activity. Apparently most members are focusing on the Final Fantasy Project. Suggestions from the two members that responded were to either delete the project altogether or merge/redirect to the SE Project. The other alternative is to still make it a taskforce under the VG Project. Any thoughts? (Guyinblack25 talk 15:27, 7 May 2008 (UTC))
I'd suggest deletion. If there's no interest in the project, there's probably little interest in a taskforce.Gazimoff WriteRead 13:37, 8 May 2008 (UTC)

FYI: MfD for Dragon Quest available here. Gazimoff WriteRead 23:25, 8 May 2008 (UTC)

Update- Dragon Quest Project page has been redirected to the VG Project page. Let's start a new discussion for the next one. (Guyinblack25 talk 17:58, 16 May 2008 (UTC))

[edit] Adding Wikipedia:WikiProject Pro Gaming

I'd like to add Wikipedia:WikiProject Pro Gaming to the list of projects to be cleaned up. I'd probably vote delete for this one.Gazimoff WriteRead 13:37, 8 May 2008 (UTC)

Given the subject matter it seem it would be rather difficult to improve the articles given the limited, but growing coverage of professional gaming. The number of articles and importance of the topic make me think it would function better as a task force. It was tagged as inactive in Nov 07, but three members have joined since then. I'd say at least save this one for last to give it a bit more time. Then we'll see if it'll show signs of life and maybe switch it to a task force. But if it's dead then I guess it should be deleted. (Guyinblack25 talk 14:30, 8 May 2008 (UTC))
Agreed. There's no rush on any of these. Gazimoff WriteRead 23:13, 8 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Proposal

I feel it is ironic and slightly strange to make this a task force in itself. How about turning this into a department called "Project management" where, along with it's current clean up duties, it can facilitate as a central point for all projects and taskforces related to WP:VG and perhaps even a place where people can ask questions and request task forces here (rather than at the WikiProject Council as hardly anyone notices them there) to help prevent projects being started that are too narrow in scope and other such problems we are currently trying to rectify. We could probably also assist in other things for related projects as well. What do you think? .:Alex:. 11:58, 10 May 2008 (UTC)

A interesting idea. I thought the point of the taskforce was to have a set of objectives with a clear endpoint, at which point the taskforce itself can be archived and closed down. Let me think on it for a while and get back to you. Gazimoff WriteRead 12:07, 10 May 2008 (UTC)
"Management" would be a good name I think, but that sounds a little cabally. It's a good idea, though I'd like to note that there was other previous to this somewhere in one of the archives of WT:VG: Make this task force an even more general "Cleanup". Either way, something to consider. --Izno (talk) 03:17, 17 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Wikipedia:WikiProject Massively multiplayer online games/Guild Wars

I have nominated this for MfD. You can participate here. --.:Alex:. 09:01, 31 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] On we go

It might be a good idea to merge Castlevania to a task force, as it's only one person currently. I actually think this consolidation is going quite well... I would say nom Neopets and Tycoon for MfD. Also, we might want to consider adding Pokémon to the list of inactive wikiprojects... --Izno (talk) 03:47, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] WP:MMO

WikiProject MMO has been tagged for deletion. The MfD is here. Gazimoff WriteRead 08:24, 7 June 2008 (UTC)