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Superman This article is part of WikiProject Superman. The purpose of this project is to build a comprehensive and detailed guide to articles on and/or related to Superman on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, you can edit the article attached to this page, or visit the project page, where you can join the project and/or contribute to the discussion.
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[edit] Articles to be created

  1. Create an episode list for Adventures of Superman (TV series)
  2. Superman (1940s cartoons) Creating a series of articles, one for each film. Each article needs an infobox.
  3. Eventually create a portal to organize all the information related to Superman. Use Wikipedia:Portal and Wikipedia:Portal/Instructions

[edit] Articles to be expanded/improved

  1. The Origin of Superman
  2. Superman and the Mole Men
  3. Adventures of Superman (comic book)
  4. Superman (1940s cartoons) Creating a series of articles, one for each film. Still have several to go. Also want to make an infobox for them.
  5. The Complete Superman Collection I would appreciate more info and more individual DVD cover pictures.
  6. Superboy (Kal-El) Rewritten, expanding Superboy's bio and publishing history as I suggested in September. Spiderboy12 (talk) 07:51, 19 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Articles to be assessed

  1. Need to locate and tag all Superman related articles with the {{WP Superman}} banner.
  2. Need to go through all Superman related articles and assess their quality and importance.

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[edit] Brando?

Will they have Marlon Brando in it again?--Chili14(Talk|Contribs) 03:29, 9 July 2006 (UTC)

Are you talking about Superman Returns? If so.. yes, he's in it, but please move your discussions to the Superman Returns talk page, or more appropriately, a Superman Returns message board. —EatMyShortz 19:37, 16 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] John Schneider

should't their be a Picture of John Schneider i think their should since he made Jonathan Kent cool again—Preceding unsigned comment added by Supermike (talk • contribs) 10:06 July 13, 2006

Here is a picture of John Schneider for you: Image:Bo Duke.jpg. I hope that helps you. --Chris Griswold 06:26, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Help Wanted

Hi guys, this is the first WikiProject that I started. I really could use some help getting it organized and working on articles. --Mattwj2002 06:02, 30 July 2006 (UTC)

Best way to get members is to invite them personally on their talk pages if they've shown an interest in Superman. Also to keep the project active. Wrad 06:10, 16 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Subproject?

Shouldn't this be considered a subproject of Wikipedia:WikiProject Comics? Arch O. La Grigory Deepdelver 00:36, 29 August 2006 (UTC)

Your probably right. Hopefully, we can get some more support. The reason I started this project is because there are so many different series, movies, and comic books I thought a Wikipedia Project was in order. Any help would be greatly appreciated. --Mattwj2002 03:30, 29 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Project Directory

Hello. The WikiProject Council is currently in the process of developing a master directory of the existing WikiProjects to replace and update the existing Wikipedia:WikiProject Council/Directory. These WikiProjects are of vital importance in helping wikipedia achieve its goal of becoming truly encyclopedic. Please review the following pages:

  • User:Badbilltucker/Culture Directory,
  • User:Badbilltucker/Culture Directory 2,
  • User:Badbilltucker/Philosophy and religion Directory,
  • User:Badbilltucker/Sports Directory,
  • User:Badbilltucker/Geographical Directory,
  • User:Badbilltucker/Geographical Directory/United States, (note: This page will be retitled to more accurately reflect its contents)
  • User:Badbilltucker/History and society directory, and
  • User:Badbilltucker/Science directory

and make any changes to the entries for your project that you see fit. There is also a directory of portals, at User:B2T2/Portal, listing all the existing portals. Feel free to add any of them to the portals or comments section of your entries in the directory. The three columns regarding assessment, peer review, and collaboration are included in the directory for both the use of the projects themselves and for that of others. Having such departments will allow a project to more quickly and easily identify its most important articles and its articles in greatest need of improvement. If you have not already done so, please consider whether your project would benefit from having departments which deal in these matters. It is my hope to have the existing directory replaced by the updated and corrected version of the directory above by November 1. Please feel free to make any changes you see fit to the entries for your project before then. If you should have any questions regarding this matter, please do not hesitate to contact me. Thank you. B2T2 22:20, 23 October 2006 (UTC)

Sorry if you tried to update it before, and the corrections were gone. I have now moved the new draft in the old directory pages, so the links should work better. My apologies for any confusion this may have caused you. B2T2 14:06, 24 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Superman

Superman has been nominated for a featured article review. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks. Please leave your comments and help us to return the article to featured quality. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, articles are moved onto the Featured Article Removal Candidates list for a further period, where editors may declare "Keep" or "Remove" from featured status. The instructions for the FAR process are here. Reviewers' concerns are here. Sandy (Talk) 22:02, 5 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Taskforce

Would it be better to have this as a taskforce of WikiProject Comics, rather than a separate Project? Have a look at WP:MILHIST for how they have their taskforces set up to see what I mean. Hiding Talk 15:28, 20 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Superman and the Mole Men

I've greatly expanded the plot on the Superman and the Mole Men page and separated it into a synopsis section and a Themes section. Scmods 05:39, 28 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Wikipedia Day Awards

Hello, all. It was initially my hope to try to have this done as part of Esperanza's proposal for an appreciation week to end on Wikipedia Day, January 15. However, several people have once again proposed the entirety of Esperanza for deletion, so that might not work. It was the intention of the Appreciation Week proposal to set aside a given time when the various individuals who have made significant, valuable contributions to the encyclopedia would be recognized and honored. I believe that, with some effort, this could still be done. My proposal is to, with luck, try to organize the various WikiProjects and other entities of wikipedia to take part in a larger celebrartion of its contributors to take place in January, probably beginning January 15, 2007. I have created yet another new subpage for myself (a weakness of mine, I'm afraid) at User talk:Badbilltucker/Appreciation Week where I would greatly appreciate any indications from the members of this project as to whether and how they might be willing and/or able to assist in recognizing the contributions of our editors. Thank you for your attention. Badbilltucker 16:37, 29 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Superman Knockoffs of the Golden Age

I've found articles ralating to DC's lawsuits against Fawcett and Fox Features. There are also articles for the various fictional characters connected with the lawsuits. Would the general topic of Superman's early imitators be an appropriate topic for a Wikipedia article? I have seen list-style articles, but I am not a big fan of them. I picture something more along the lines of a timeline with commentary.

[edit] Episode Articles

Articles for episode should not be created. Please read Wikipedia:WikiProject Television/Episodes and Wikipedia:Television episodes for when they should be created. There was already a debate on Smallville episode articles previously, that is why the articles stopped after Season 2. The focus should be on improving the main page, and then the season pages, and then, if there is a lot of information, the episode article pages. Plots, trivia, quotes, featured music, this isn't what Wikipedia is about; it's an encyclopedia. Plots are there for context with the real world information, and trivia should be avoided. I'm already working on improving both the main page and the season pages (see User:Bignole/Smallville seasons), and from the way it looks with my source material, I'll be merging all those episode articles into the season articles. All except for maybe "Pilot" and "Tempest", as they are the only ones that actually have enough relevant information that might be able to support themselves as articles.  BIGNOLE  (Contact me) 16:28, 16 May 2007 (UTC)

I see your point, but I think you're swinging the article a bit too far to the negative side. If someone can make an episode article with more than just plot and trivia, I'm not going to stop them. Basically, I think your first sentence, "Articles for episode should not be created" is way too harsh. I would say, rather, "Articles for episodes should be created with care, keeping in mind the guidelines at..." Wrad 16:44, 16 May 2007 (UTC)
Let me rephrase. Articles about episodes should be done with apprehension. You must ask yourself: "Where is the rest of the information?" "Is there a summary page, like a List of Episodes or a Season page?" "Would the information best be served there?" "Is the information itself relevant to Wikipedia?" ... People generally create an article and leave it forever, never touching it again, thinking someone else will work it. We have to face the idea that most of the people that work on these types of articles are basically "specialty" editors. Go to the "List of Smallville episode" article, and click any one of the episodes in the first 2 season (because they go to an individual article, as opposed to the rest that go to their counterpart on the season pages). "Featured music"? That shouldn't be there. Wiki isn't a marketing team. It's a list of pop music that appeared in the episode. That type of information is best suited on the main page, because you could explain how the creators worked with these various artists for the show itself. "Quotes"? Not only is that a violation of copyrights, because we are basically listing word-for-word what characters are saying, but we have a Wikiquote for that type of stuff. We already know about trivia. The three things that should be avoided on individual episode articles are the three things that these articles have (not including a plot). Someone rushed these out the door on the grounds that "other shows have them". Well, because other people are doing it wrong doesn't mean we should perpetuate the cycle. I've seen good articles on episodes, but they are few and far between, and most people think that if you have one then you should do them all.  BIGNOLE  (Contact me) 16:57, 16 May 2007 (UTC)

Sounds like pretty sound advice to me. I think the episode "Reckoning" from season five might also merit an episode. Wrad 16:59, 16 May 2007 (UTC)

I'm sure it will. I'm using the Smallville Companions for information (that's why I said that I'll probably only have enough for the pilot and tempest, but I haven't widdled it all out yet). They haven't released Season 4 and 5 companions, so I won't know about those until later. I'd assume that they would have a lot for "Reckoning" considering the impact it had on the show.  BIGNOLE  (Contact me) 17:04, 16 May 2007 (UTC)
Oh yeah, and I have that season 5 special DVD that has the making of for the episode "Reckoning".  BIGNOLE  (Contact me) 20:09, 23 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Proposed Work Group.

Hi we were talking about yours and the Batman project here and well it got to proposing Workgroups for the Comics project, with one of them dealing with only DC comics (discussion here, Proposal: Wikipedia:WikiProject Council/Proposals#DC Comics). If this group should become a reality, we were wondering whether you might consider perhaps merging with it, along with perhaps the Wikipedia:WikiProject Batman. The fact of the substantial overlap of the two groups in things such as World's Finest Comics, Superman/Batman, and the like would we think be somewhat beneficial. Anyway, thanks for your attention.Phoenix741 00:15, 31 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Pilot (Smallville)

Pilot (Smallville) is currently up for FA status. Please bring more opinions here.  BIGNOLE  (Contact me) 06:29, 18 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Jason White (character)

This minor character from the film Superman Returns has its own article. I don't think it's necessary - the vast majority of the article is a reiteration of the plot of the film. The character plays a very small role in the film and clearly doesn't deserve a separate article. I redirected the article after suggesting a redirection on the talk page and a week of no objections being voiced. However, SonPraises undid the redirect claiming no consensus was formed. Please weigh in your opinions at Talk:Jason White (character) so we can settle this. Thanks. --Jtalledo (talk) 15:14, 29 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Proposed merger with WikiProject Comics

For the purposes of centralized discussion, please see Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Comics#Proposed merger with WikiProject Superman. Thank you. John Carter 14:55, 22 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Criteria for tagging articles

I've recently been working on an informative speech for a speech class in which my topic is cultural impact of comics. I've been doing research here and there and mainly been using Wikipedia to just check a quick fact. As I scanned Wikipedia, I noticed some articles that could be tagged as Superman articles but aren't. For example, I noticed that Christoper Reeve and Brandon Routh are tagged, but not Gene Hackman or Kevin Spacey. Are we limiting it only to actors that portrayed Superman, or are we allowing for actors that played major characters? A follow-up question would be, what about voice actors? Tim Daly voiced Superman in Superman: TAS. Should he be tagged? Anakinjmt 03:20, 27 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] New articles attached to project

I've tagged the following articles to be attached to the project. I plan on soon rating them, but if someone wants to take the time and do it now, that'd be cool too.

Anakinjmt 03:50, 27 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Creators

I'd like to create an article or list of comics creators besides Siegel and Shuster who are important to the publication history of Superman. This would include people such as Cary Bates, Curt Swan, Murphy Anderson, Wayne Boring, Mort Weisinger, Julius Schwartz, John Byrne, Dan Jurgens, Mark Waid, Geoff Johns, etc.

I would also like to include these creators as being within the scope of WikiProject Superman. Any objections?

Mookie89 (talk) 23:37, 18 November 2007 (UTC)

Makes sense. Batman has a similar article. Go for it. Anakinjmt (talk) 23:43, 18 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Origin of Superman

I have done quite a bit of work improving the Origin of Superman article, adding details and citations. I still have to tackle modern age revisions and adaptations. I wanted to get feedback on what I have done so far. In a few weeks, I am hoping that it will be feature article worthy. Mookie89 (talk) 02:16, 25 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Superboy (Kal-El)

I basically rewrote the Superboy (Kal-El) article, keeping some of what was already present, but mostly adding new material. The article now has three main parts: (1) a detailed publishing history covering 1944-1992; (2) a section on writers, artists, and editors; and (3) a fictional biography (circa 1985). I did what I had in mind (more or less) when I added Superboy (Kal-El) to the list of pages needing improvement in September. Any feedback is appreciated. Spiderboy12 (talk) 07:41, 19 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Centralized TV Episode Discussion

Over the past months, TV episodes have been redirected by (to name a couple) TTN, Eusebeus and others. No centralized discussion has taken place, so I'm asking everyone who has been involved in this issue to voice their opinions here in this centralized spot, be they pro or anti. Discussion is here [1]. This issue is affecting the Smallville articles and most have been deleted. --Maniwar (talk) 01:13, 16 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Kryptonite in Smallville

There's an expired prod notice on this article. Yet, I notice that your project has a tag on the article and there's no consensus on the talk page on previous discussions about the utility of the article. I'm therefore reluctant to delete it, so will remove the prod and I suggest one of you AfDs it. --Dweller (talk) 12:59, 29 January 2008 (UTC)