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[edit] Panels

Testing out how many have watchlisted this yet, and raising an issue I've wondered about. While this work group will focus on comic strips, I'd like to know what others think about the single panel cartoon and how it fits into this work group, and WP:CMC as a whole. I'm not a follower of the "sequential" definition as far as comics go, but figure comics have room for a wider interpretation of drawn storytelling. Aren't sources divided on this? Does the single panel cartoon belong here or elsewhere? Thoughts? MURGH disc. 15:49, 6 November 2007 (UTC)

Here. (how's that for brevity?) The difference is often too small, what with some Far Side 's with six mini-panels, and some Calvin & Hobbes 's with only one (long) panel. It is drawn, recurring, published in newspapers (or in magazines or comic magazines, European style), often on the funnies pages as well, and often by the same people who also create regular comic strips. There is a bigger gap between political cartoons / other (fictional) panel gags than between panel gags and comic strips, IMO. Fram 16:15, 6 November 2007 (UTC)
I echo what Fram has said. I'd put editorial/political cartoons within the WP:CMC remit too, although I'm not sure if they would fit within this work group. In the UK there's a healthy overlap between people doing editorial cartoons and strip work as well, Steve Bell springs to mind I'm definitely one who favours a non-sequential definition as well. Hiding Talk 18:13, 6 November 2007 (UTC)
I know Hiding has argued strongly for this in the main talk page and I agree. There is a lot of crossover. As I said there was one point where the category Comics was both a child and parent of the category Cartoons, which pretty much highlights the issues - are comics lots of cartoons strung together or are cartoons one panel comics? I think it is legitimate for us to take an interest in a lot of cartoons although more due to crossover than cartoons falling under comics (I think the best view is that comics are a child of cartoons). (Emperor 18:29, 6 November 2007 (UTC))
I'm glad this is the general feeling. I see how the political cartoon segment could become difficult, that the work of, for instance Steve Bell or Ralph Steadman or less "signature-themed" cartoonists might not make a clear case within the strip definition, but still, that syndicated (mostly) single-panel features like Non Sequitur, Ballard Street, Herman, The Flying McCoys, Strangebrew and such, make the strip cut. Then there's no need to press for a "Single cartoon work group" to be formed. Cheers, MURGH disc. 01:57, 7 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Asterix?

I noticed your bot tagging Talk:Asterix as being in your work group. This surprised me, as I never thought of Asterix as a strip, but on checking, I found that the article was in Category:French comic strips, so I guess the robot was just doing its job. :)

I'm inclined to remove the article from that category (it is already in Category:French comics) and revert the bot, but I figured I'd ask the experts first. What say ye? :) — the Sidhekin (talk) 12:23, 19 March 2008 (UTC)

  • This is a language issue. In Europe the term comic strip is more expansive than that used in the US. The categories need better defining, but you are entirely free to revert this bot account. Comics-awb (talk) 13:11, 19 March 2008 (UTC)
Seeing as I am and always have been in Europe, that surprises me somewhat.  :) But if the experts think Asterix belongs in the strips category and work group, I have no problem with that. — the Sidhekin (talk) 13:20, 19 March 2008 (UTC)