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This page is specifically for requests for Peer review. Please place all Requests for comment on the project's Notice board, and all requests for cleanup on the project's cleanup request page.

The peer review department of the Comics WikiProject conducts peer review of articles on request. The primary objective is to encourage better articles by having contributors who may not have worked on articles to examine them and provide ideas for further improvement.

The peer review process is highly flexible and can deal with articles of any quality; however, requesting reviews on very short articles may not be productive, as there is little for readers to comment on.

All reviews are conducted by fellow editors—usually members of the Comics WikiProject. While there is a general intent to expand this process to allow for review by subject experts, the preparations for this are not yet complete.

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[edit] Instructions

[edit] Requesting a review

  1. Add peer-review=yes to the {{Comicsproj}} project banner at the top of the article's talk page (see the project banner instructions for more details on the exact syntax).
  2. From there, click on the "request has been made" link that appears in the template. This will open a page to discuss the review of your article.
  3. Place === [[Name of nominated article]] === at the top.
  4. Below it, write your reason for nominating the article and sign by using four tildes (~~~~).
  5. Add {{Wikipedia:WikiProject Comics/Peer review/Name of nominated article}} at the top of the list of requests on this page.

If an article is listed for a second (or third, and so forth) peer review:

  1. Move the existing peer review subpage (Wikipedia:WikiProject Comics/Peer review/Name of nominated article) to an archive (Wikipedia:WikiProject Comics/Peer review/Name of nominated article/Archive 1).
  2. Follow the instructions for making a request above (editing the primary page, which will be a redirect to the archive, into a new request page).
  3. Be sure to provide a prominent link to the last archive at the top of the request (e.g. "Prior peer review here.").

[edit] Responding to a request

Everyone is encouraged to comment on any request listed here. To comment on an article, please add a new section (using ==== [[User:Your name|Your name]] ====) for your comments, in order to keep multiple responses legible.

[edit] Archiving

Reviews should be archived after they have been inactive for some time, or when the article is nominated as a featured article candidate. To archive a review:

  1. Replace peer-review=yes with old-peer-review=yes in the {{Comicsproj}} project banner template at the top of the article's talk page
  2. Move {{Wikipedia:WikiProject Comics/Peer review/Name of nominated article}} from this page to the current archive page.

[edit] Requests

[edit] Batgirl

The article was passed rather quickly as GA. I would like a review to prepare the article for FA. The Bookkeeper (of the Occult) 09:04, 1 June 2008 (UTC)

  • Comments Looking very good so far. This can be a model for other comic character articles that feature multiple chararacters using the same persona (I was intending to do the same with Flash (comics), but never found enough time or resources). I actually think you can go to FAC pretty soon. Some comments:
  • Helena Bertinelli redirects to Huntress (Helena Bertinelli)
  • Many of the lines in the Bettie Kane section are phrased in a very POV way, ie. "The creation of the Batman Family, which included Batman and Batwoman depicted as parents, Robin and Bat-Girl depicted as their children, the extraterrestrial imp Bat-Mite and the "family pet" Ace the Bat-Hound, lead the Batman related comic books astray". Rephrase to be less POV, or indicate that whatever author cited holds this viewpoint.
  • Some of the paragraphs could be split for better readability. See what I did in the Bettie Kane section.
  • Start the Cassandra Cain section with her introduction, then describe the character. I'd highly recommend combining the Huntress section into this Cassandrea Cain one, as the mystery of who the new Batgirl was didn't last long (and in the long term, it isn't too notable), and was quickly replaced by Cain as part of the overarching "No Man's Land" story. Combine both Cassandra Cain sections.
    • Comment: I kinda disagree here. Combinding these sections disrupts the chronological events that took place. Especially if we were to combine both Cain sections. I'd really rather not unless you believe it would be an absolute requirement in order to pass FAC. The Bookkeeper (of the Occult) 06:35, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
      I added the specific issues in which both characters (Bertinelli/Cain) were revealed as Batgirl, but I can't find a source on the specifics of Cain's introduction. The Bookkeeper (of the Occult) 07:37, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
You can still have it be chronological, but you should divide and combine sections properly by subtopic. For instance, look at the "Musical style" section in Joy Division. The live performance and lyrics subsections are both arranged chronologically as separate sections; the lyrics section ends with a reference to the singer's suicide, but the live performances section starts with him alive. This is fine because each section is dealing with a specific topic and is internally consistent in regards to that topic. It's a bit inconvenient to jump from Cassandra Cain to Misfit and then back to Cassandra Cain, especially since Misfit was only temporarily Batgirl. It's mroe efficient to deal with Cassandra Cain in one section, especially since there's that "main article" link. WesleyDodds (talk) 01:36, 8 June 2008 (UTC)
DONE: The sections are merged and I made an attempt to indicate the chronological order of events in Charlotte Gage-Radcliffe's section. The Bookkeeper (of the Occult) 01:57, 8 June 2008 (UTC)
  • Barbara Gordon and Cassandra Cain might be known by name by a casual fan, but Charlotte Gage-Radcliffe is a bit obscure and too recent for those who don't follow Birds of Prey. Possibly retitle the section "Misfit".
    • Comment: I understand your point but I don't believe it makes that big of a difference. Few people, even regular readers of DC know Bette Kane by name either (neither as Bat-Girl or Flamebird). I also think it would break the layout of the article since all other characters are mentioned by their civilian names. The Bookkeeper (of the Occult) 06:35, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

There's also some prose fixes that should be done, but I'll tackle those once you do further work on the article. Let me know how it goes! WesleyDodds (talk) 04:47, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

Thanks. I'll get to it now. The Bookkeeper (of the Occult) 05:59, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

You really don't need the dates in the character headers. WesleyDodds (talk) 07:34, 8 June 2008 (UTC)

DONE The Bookkeeper (of the Occult) 08:20, 8 June 2008 (UTC)

Comment You might want to check out GoogleScholar. There must have been studies conducted from a feminist point of view (female archetypes of every kind seem to be subject to feminist studies). I also see discussion of Barbara as a librarian (more suited for her article, but maybe make a mention here?). Is there enough material to have an Influences section? Maybe flesh out a few more details on the TV/movie Batgirls too? indopug (talk) 08:48, 8 June 2008 (UTC)

Not really. There is very little if any critical analysis on Barbara Gordon, let alone the batgirl character as a whole. It took me about a year to gather as much information as I did on Barbara and that took going through every search engine known to man- including google. There is mention of Barbara impact on pop culture in her article, but im not sure if it is enough to devote a section in this article. I'll see if I can add it to the other media section. The Bookkeeper (of the Occult) 09:06, 8 June 2008 (UTC)
I've added a cultural impact section similar to Batman's article. As I find more resources, I'll add information to the section. The Bookkeeper (of the Occult) 07:34, 11 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] The Order of the Stick

I've been working to bring this article up to speed, particularly with regards to references and real-world context. Traditionally, it (and especially its related sub-articles) have gotten bogged down in lengthy plot regurgitations, and I'd like to see if I've managed to stem that on the main article before I start working on the sub-articles. I'd like to see this go all the way to Featured Article--right now, the only FA on webcomics is Megatokyo--so any help you could give would be appreciated. Thanks --Ig8887 (talk) 05:04, 17 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Scrooge McDuck

This article has a lot of potential but really needs some feedback from objective editors. The more details the better, would really appreciate it. Thanks. -- Wikipedical (talk) 01:51, 29 February 2008 (UTC)

A good start but it need a lot of more work.

  • The hole article need to be referenced with reliable sources.
  • The lead should be a summery of the article. For example the discussion in the third paragraph is not mentioned in the body of the article.
  • The Money Bin should either be merged or the template be removed.
  • I think the names in "Also known as" in the infobox should be removed. He have lots and lots of nicknames used in a few stories, "The Master of the Mississippi" etc etc. "Uncle Scrooge" would be suitable here, maybe "The Richest Duck in the World" too.
  • "Comics history" is unbalanced. There are a lot of text about "Voodoo Hoodoo" and "Trail of the Unicorn", minor characters and things like his private airplane while more impotant stories like "Only a Poor Old Man" and "Back to the Klondike" is just mentioned in one sentence. Also more important characters like Flintheart, Beagle Boys and Magica de Spell are mentioned very briefly or not at all, same with things like money bin, number one dime etc.
  • The transition from supporting to main character when "Uncle Scrooge" was introduced in 1952 should be clearer.
  • More information about the time after Barks is needed.

Skizzik (talk) 10:45, 29 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Comics Guaranty LLC

I was concerned that this article was strongly POV. I have tried to rework it to include criticism, but in a more neutral manner. I've finally completed what I think is a satisfactory draft of the article, but I would like to invite fresh eyes to take a look at it. Thanks! --GentlemanGhost (talk) 22:53, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Marvel: The End

I tried copy editing the plot summary, but I'm not familiar enough with the story to complete the job. Can someone else take a whack at it? Konczewski 02:52, 2 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Batwoman

Batwoman was recently promoted to GA and I would like a peer review to prepare it for FA. Bookkeeperoftheoccult (talk) 10:21, 12 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Moira MacTaggert

Significant changes have been made since 2005, when I and others began researching to take it from a stub. Looking for review from fresh eyes to give pointers.EmilyRose (talk) 04:33, 27 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Zits (comic strip)

This article has been vastly improved over the past few weeks and is in need of a thorough third-person peer review. My long term goal is to get this up to FA status, with the short-term goal of getting it to GA status. I submitted this for a regular peer review, but it just hasn't gotten much attention. If anyone can provide some advice, please help me out. Thanks -- VegitaU 03:16, 30 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Luma Lynai

I added an infobox, image, and expanded the background info on this minor character, then removed the stub. Can someone give it a once over? Thanks! Konczewski 19:24, 17 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Peer review by User:Phil Sandifer

Though thorough, this appears to be a character who has appeared once and been referenced, in very geeky ways, twice. Why is this an article? Phil Sandifer 14:13, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

I wish I had a strong reason for keeping Luma, but I don't. I do think, however, your classification of the references as "geeky" is a little strong. It's actually pretty common in current comics to reference obscure characters, or even completely revive them. Just check out 52 (which features appearances by Ambush Bug and Egg Fu) or Countdown (one storyline centers around references to Jimmy Olsen's superpowers from the Silver Age). I'll bet it's only a matter of time before Luma Lynai returns.
But if someone really wants to delete this, I won't stand in the way.Konczewski 17:12, 31 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Transformers (fiction)

I've fiddled with this article so much, and even moved it from "Transformers universes", referencing the comics/cartoons to give an overall understanding of this fictional multiverse, whilst simultaneously acting as an entry for a fictional species of alien robots. I think it should come under closer scrutiny from fans and non-fans alike here, as with the upcoming film I'd like this to be FA.

My questions are how to deal with more obscure comics, like from conventions, clubs, toy boxes or Japan, as well as enough language to make non-fans understand there is no canon. There are also questions over structure, such as a rough chronological approach like I'm doing now or analyzing each continuity tree. WikiNew 18:20, 4 March 2007 (UTC)

Wow. Excellent out-of-universe style! --Masamage 03:14, 8 March 2007 (UTC)

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