User talk:Warlordjohncarter/Archive Jun 2008

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[edit] Templates

Dear John Carter, I like the Round In Circles template you mentioned on the H. falls page. You know what would be great is a "Groundhog Day" template for when the round-in-circles loops over a longer time period. (For example, if persons bring up the same issues with a 2-3 month space in between.) One could reference the talk pages for the discussion loop (hopefully) to prevent a re-occurrence of Groundhog Day. Do you know how to create templates? This would be fun. Renee (talk) 21:50, 29 April 2008 (UTC)

Thanks! I posted a support statement there. Here is an adorable picture if people believe it's worthwhile. Renee (talk) 23:57, 29 April 2008 (UTC)
Do you believe reception of a new template is lukewarm or can we go for it? (BTW, you and Job of the old testament have a lot in common regarding this, I can't believe it's still going on!) Renee (talk) 00:40, 5 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Hello John

How have you been?

User:Sarvagnya has opposed on the Zinta FAC. Among other comments (which are clearly not valid), he claims boxofficeindia.com is not a reliable source, while it's clearly reliable. It's a joke. Major and famous newspapers like The Times of India, Hindustan Times use it as a source of information, so why can't Wikipedia? You can see the links on the FAC. It's tiresome. What do you say? Shahid • Talk2me 13:35, 1 May 2008 (UTC)

Hey again, John.
John, Dwaipayanc created a new section for the IPL cricket team: "Ownership of Indian Premier League team". It's good, but seems too long for the ToC in comparison to the other section headings. My suggestion was to rename it "Ownership of IPL team." Dwai thinks it's better to leave the full IPL title, because it's not as famous as other titles like UNICEFF and PETA. So I thought it would be more appropriate if we changed it to "Ownership of IPL cricket team" or "Ownership of cricket team" in order to make it clearer, because the IPL itself is IMO not really an important detail for the heading; the matter is IMO the fact that she owns a cricket team. Also, when we say "Ownership of IPL cricket team", I think it gives the clarification of what an IPL actually is, so the acronym is clear and ther's no need for a long section heading.
What do you think? What's the best way to name the section? I just get a bit annoyed by such a long heading in the ToC, which makes it huge and unpleasant. Regards, Shahid • Talk2me 12:37, 2 May 2008 (UTC)
Yeh, I'll take care of. Didn't notice that...
I'm now working on the last para in the career section. Here's how it looks as of now:
As of April 2008, Zinta has completed shooting for Jahnu Barua's drama Har Pall, as well as Deepa Mehta's Canadian movie Heaven on Earth, an English-Punjabi language drama based on the real story of a NRI battered wife who bore years of domestic violence. Another confirmed project, Sameer Karnik's adventure film Heroes, is scheduled for release in June 2008.
Is it OK? Shahid • Talk2me 13:38, 2 May 2008 (UTC)
I guess the Heaven on Earth part is a bit complicated. Shahid • Talk2me 13:39, 2 May 2008 (UTC)
I just think Tony's comments are unclear. He says "'characters of a diverse nature'—five words could be just two." - what does he mean? To change it to diverse characters?
And what does he mean when he says "'bringing a change in' could be just one word."? "Changing"?
Shahid • Talk2me 14:26, 2 May 2008 (UTC)
He says "range" is a bit vague... Do you have a way to clarify that? Or maybe another word would look better there? Shahid • Talk2me 15:03, 2 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Poll: Change name from "Sex work work group" to "Sex work task force"?

Polling all members of the group to see if they are OK with changing the name of the group. Poll is here. – Iamcuriousblue (talk) 13:22, 2 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] race and ancient egyptians

hey john when the dumbbot removed the fully protection temp it also removed the semi protect temp can you put the semi protect back,thank you--Wikiscribe (talk) 16:13, 2 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] MichaelCPrice

Since you've had contact with MichaelCPrice (talk · contribs) and because you seem knowledgable about the general area, I wonder if I could trouble you to keep an eye on Talk:List of people who have disappeared#Jesus. I am currently in a dispute with this editor over whether Jesus should be included on the list. The editor has reverted twice in the last two days with minimal discussion and, from what I can tell, seems to be pushing a fringe view of the Resurrection and/or the early Church.

I've read Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Ebionites and I don't much like what I see there. After reading the case, it's unclear to me whether the one-revert-per-week-per-article limit applies to just the Ebionites article or to any article on a related topic. I'm not sure any admin action is warranted at the present time, but thought it was worthwhile to give you a heads up to nip any potential problems in the bud.

Thanks, ObiterDicta ( pleadings • errata • appeals ) 21:44, 2 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Burma

Well to put things in perspective see the missing settlements in Bhamo Township with comprises of 1/18th of Kachin State. There are 14 states/divisions in Burma. So basically your timesing this by 18 and then multiplying by 14 and that justs Burma!! ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ $1,000,000? 22:00, 2 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Project Directory

Hi again! Regarding the directory reorganization, I thought my edit should not be reverted. Like I have said before, the massive amount of sections makes the loading process slow. Furthermore, the project directory is meant for editors not familiar with WikiProjects to use. Personally I think my version was much more organized.

Also, I did not remove any project from the directory, instead I simply removed the ones that appear too much. For example, there were sections that contained only one project and another project that also is listed under twenty more sections. I simply combined all of those sections under one single section, which makes it much more organized, IMO. Since there were no removal of active projects from the directory, may I humbly ask for the permission to revert?

In the edit summary you talked about a certain "format." Is the format simply the difference between =text= and ==text==?--Jerrch 23:37, 2 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Workgroup; SWaminarayan

I noticed your comments about the workgroup. We should have editors soon, and we plan to have more artcles by te end of this summer. Probably another 50-60. We will have close to 150 then so we will wait off until then. Thanks for you comments.    Juthani1    01:41, 3 May 2008 (UTC)

Also was wondering if you could give me rollback rights.    Juthani1    01:59, 3 May 2008 (UTC)

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[edit] AN/I

Sorry John Carter, I did want to take your advice on mediation rather than AN/I, but the other party doesn't seem to be interested in that. I don't think I can make any good out of the mediation if the other one doesn't want to co-operate with that. Sorry Wiki San Roze †αLҝ 11:19, 3 May 2008 (UTC)

OK, I shall do that, but I would also like to point out that Naadapriya is already accusing me of starting a pramature RfC. BTW, does no other admin look into the AN/I? I am very disappointed with the way the two AN/I's I have seen is being neglected. Anyways, thanks for your help. Wiki San Roze †αLҝ 18:02, 3 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] New Project

Myself and several other editors have been compiling a list of very active editors who would likely be available to help new editors in the event they have questions or concerns. As the list grew and the table became more detailed, it was determined that the best way to complete the table was to ask each potential candidate to fill in their own information, if they so desire. This list is sorted geographically in order to provide a better estimate as to whether the listed editor is likely to be active.

If you consider yourself a very active Wikipedian who is willing to help newcomers, please either complete your information in the table or add your entry. If you do not want to be on the list, either remove your name or just disregard this message and your entry will be removed within 48 hours. The table can be found at User:Useight/Highly Active, as it has yet to have been moved into the Wikipedia namespace. Thank you for your help. Useight (talk) 17:38, 3 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Infoboxes

John which looks better the above or below? MOst people have no idea where these places ar ein Norway and I believe the locator map is a progresssion. Please tell me what you think thanks

Any thoughts on this? Hey its my birthday today!! ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ $1,000,000? 09:06, 4 May 2008 (UTC)

Hiayah. Yes I absolutely agree with you that the national map looks better but the four images after each other makes it too long. We're trying to come to something where the Infobox Kommune can include the national map and not make it overly big, hopefully something in between. I've become so accustomed to changing things in most africa, latin and asian countries where few people seem to care what you do and you try to edit a european country and suddenly an army of people start flashing at you (I don't mean bits and pieces if you catch my drift). The Swiss didn't take to kindly to my implementations either! Hopefully we can work something out but I am keen to standardize things by country. Sheeks I'm half way to 30 now. Can't believe it is May already ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ $1,000,000? 17:45, 4 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Hogenakkal Falls mediation

Thanks for adding yourself as a party. I am almost done with my wiki time for today :(. I will try to repost the issues based on content on the mediation page either tonight or tomorrow morning. In the mean while, if you think it is appropriate and possible, can you put the issues down on the mediation page please! I will strike off the earlier issues soon after I get back. Cheers Wiki San Roze †αLҝ 16:15, 4 May 2008 (UTC)

Hi, I somehow convinced my wife to go to wikipedia again for this evening and now I have modified the disputes. If you intend to add more, I am assuming you can do it, as long as you leave a signature. I may be wrong too. Are we required to leave messages in the Karnataka and Tamil Nadu Wikiproject pages to alert users to take part in the discussion? I can't do that unless it is required since otherwise I will be caught guilty of WP:CANVASS am assuming. Thanks for your help so far. Wiki San Roze †αLҝ 19:19, 4 May 2008 (UTC)
Y Done on the border issue. I will alert the mediator too. Cheers Wiki San Roze †αLҝ 19:55, 4 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] User:Juthani1

Thanks for your reply, and I didn't know that it made a new page. I will fix that. I will consider setting up Twinkle. I don't think anyone at wikiproject Hindusm would object and a lot of people actually agree. Thanks for your great reply and all of your help.    Juthani1    18:08, 4 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Category:Cities, towns and villages in Thailand

Hello Mr. Carter. When you log in I need you help with something. I wish to move all of the articles in this category with have the ending ....town back to the original pages and then to leave a notice at the top of them e.g


this article is about the town of .... For the article on the province of the same name of which it is part of please see .... Province


There is no reason if this is carried out why any settlements in Thailand should be called ....town as this is the incorrect title for the article. However I've tried moving the pages back but it blocks me from doing so. Could you please delete the original page redirects to the provinces articles so the stray pages can be moved back. Now if I had admin tools I could have done it myself tut tut.

E.g Chachoengsao town should be moved back to Chachoengsao rather than redirecting to the province. Instead a notice should be written at the top to link to the provincial article ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ $1,000,000? 12:27, 5 May 2008 (UTC)

♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ $1,000,000? 12:25, 5 May 2008 (UTC)

Ah I'm back. Try moving Chachoengsao town to Chachoengsao and you'll see you can't. The only way it can be done is to remove the Chachoengsao page from the database, and then moving the page afterwards when its been cleared, The only other way I can do it is to redirect but this of course would lose the page history and is likely to cause complaints. Have a go at deleting the Chachoengsao page entirely from wikipedia. ONce this has been done try moving the Chachoengsao town page to Chachoengsao again -it should work. ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ $1,000,000? 15:54, 5 May 2008 (UTC)

Exactly thats perfect. Could you quickly move the others in the category which have the ....town ending on them back to the original names. Somebody moved them originally when they shouldn't have. Cheers ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ $1,000,000? 15:58, 5 May 2008 (UTC)

Nope I can't do that see Buriram now. I think it is because you have admin tools you somehow managed to removed it entirely. Putting a deletion tg on it in a normal account doesn't do the trick ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ $1,000,000? 16:03, 5 May 2008 (UTC)

Try moving Buriram town. I;m certain the page actually has to be deleted. If I had admin tools I could sort in out in two minutes ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ $1,000,000? 16:04, 5 May 2008 (UTC)

Naturally I have the move option as everybody does but when I tried to move it this following message comes up:


The page could not be moved: a page of that name already exists, or the name you have chosen is not valid.

Please choose another name, or use Requested moves to ask an administrator to help you with the move.

Do not manually move the article by copying and pasting it; the page history must be moved along with the article text.

I am certain that if you have and admin account it permits you to do it even when the page is there. ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ $1,000,000? 16:10, 5 May 2008 (UTC)

If I was an admin I could have done it automatically. It's times like this I could really do with being an admin ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ $1,000,000? 16:11, 5 May 2008 (UTC)

Drunk? Heheh. Well its at times where it seems silly I have to ask admins to do things which I could do within minutes myself. For me adminship is less about ruling over others (which some people on here seem to think it is) and more about having tools to make important maintenance changes to the project. Given that I now have nearly 150,000 wee edits (World Number 3) (if you;ll pardon the SPECTRE reference) it does seem strange I haven't been given such tools ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ $1,000,000? 16:21, 5 May 2008 (UTC)


The thing is it has its positive aspects but part of the reason I've turned it down up until now is because I don't want people asking me to have to sort out all sorts of vandalism or intervene in a stressful situation or block some editor several times a day as it may interrupt my work. If I was just given certain tools I;d be happy to help sort any problems from time to time as long as it doesn't affect my contribution to the encyclopedia ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ $1,000,000? 17:19, 5 May 2008 (UTC)

Yes that exactly how I feel about it. What concerns me is some people who barely have 5,000 edits think oh I want to be an admin so I can be really powerful and order others around, and we can both know these those kind of editors a mile off, the intentions of some people who crave adminship really is very suspicious. I on the other hand would rather be able to use any further tools that will make my encyclopedia editing even more efficient than at present. I don't mind stepping in occasionally if there is trouble or am ask to comment but doing that sort of thing day in day out and spending most of my time at admin noticeboards and general lawyering (like many do) isn't what I'm here for. Probably if I was asked I would say one of my specialist areas would be new page patrolling and speedying deleting any poor new entries. Perhaps that might stand me in good stead as people can see I'm the last person who would abuse the tools, but on certain areas on the admin side of wiki I must admit I only have a basic knowledge of the different pages, to date I have focused almost entirely on the encyclopedia content as much as possible and in a way have ignored much of what goes on, but intentionally so as what I've seen at certain admin pages I have been pretty disgusted with ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ $1,000,000? 17:39, 5 May 2008 (UTC)

I've finally got around to sorting out the Mexican town categories. The text in most of the Mexican articles is absolute twaddle isn't it. Hardly any of them are referenced well or wikified properly and most of them seem to have been hit by uneducated IP addresses. I was very disappointed with the state on some of the Thailand articles too. Sigh sigh ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ $1,000,000? 18:34, 5 May 2008 (UTC) Heres an extract on a town I've just seen:


"There is much to see and do in this sleepy little town, from mountain biking, to scuba diving, kayaking and, most important, fishing chartes to catch a big game fish. To catch big game is of course dependant to weather and season. If no big game fish is caught, then it might be a lot of Dorado, Grouper, Snapper or Pargo, just to name some excellent fish for eating. There was once a road but that road was only a better donkey path. And traveling was kind of an adventure. The Baja peninsula contains mostly out of lava rocks. And many streets even today are covered with those lava rocks".

Perhaps they are confusing it with deepermost Japan? Hehehe ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ $1,000,000? 18:41, 5 May 2008 (UTC)


[edit] Zinta FAC

Hello John!

I must say I'm tired. I have no problem with editors opposing, but when editors try to fail it from the very outset, it saddens me a lot. Please see the last oppose. Clearly not actionable, especially cosidering all the other BLP FAs. Regards, Shahid • Talk2me 19:16, 5 May 2008 (UTC)

The Bald One is on the case. I copy edited the first few paragraphs earlier and I'll try to give it a vigorous seeing to over the next few days ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ $1,000,000? 20:20, 5 May 2008 (UTC)

as a trial I'm removed all the copywrighted images and I have to say I think it affects the quality of the article. Two of the images I consider encyclopedia. The larger beatuiful picture of Zinta in KANK, the bottom one however I have to admit was more decoratative but the teenager mother and image of her with Khan in a Filmfar award winning role I think are encyclopedic and help understanding and visualize her role as an actress ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ $1,000,000? 20:44, 5 May 2008 (UTC)

Yes as stunning as the image of her in the gold jacket in KANK is, it hasn't really a purpose encyclopically. The other two are discussed significantly in the text and even in the intro to the article and they are also images of landmarks moments in her career so should not be discounted. I don't mind objections that copywrighted images shouldn't be included in an article but what concenrs me is double standards and that some FA's like Diane Keaton are permitted four screenshots while others seemed to have to refrain from any. What I want is consistancy all over. Either they are permitted all across wikipedia or they aren't. ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ $1,000,000? 21:01, 5 May 2008 (UTC)

A light at the end of the tunnel, with Tony withdrawing his oppose. Now there is another oppose. But the problems seem to be not as serious now. One editor left some comments but some of his comments are not clear to me. For example, he says "grammar..." and I don't really know what he means. For example:
"She would subsequently take on a variety of character types, and in doing so has been credited with changing the image of Hindi film heroine." Grammar.. - does he mean that an "a" is missing after "image of"?
Shahid • Talk2me 21:40, 6 May 2008 (UTC)
Mr Bigglesworth has done a spot of editing today all by himself
Mr Bigglesworth has done a spot of editing today all by himself

[edit] Combined Banner

The combined Christianity/Eastern Orthodoxy banner does not seem to categorize the article in the importance category for WP Eastern Orthodoxy when it is added. see Talk:Nicene Creed. It stays as unknown importance. Grk1011 (talk) 19:06, 7 May 2008 (UTC)


[edit] Request for mediation not accepted

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[edit] Revamp of the assessment scheme

Hi John, thanks for offering to help with this initiative. I think we have enough warm bodies to get things started (though I think most of us are pretty busy!). I'm suggesting that we start with a clear, detailed definition of the scheme, using examples as Holon suggests. Cheers, Walkerma (talk) 03:06, 8 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] WP:AN

I've posted about the Talk page abuse at WP:AN. I want an outside opinion. SHEFFIELDSTEELTALK 22:06, 8 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Colorizing background of photographic portrait

Hi John. As a BLP expert, perhaps you could weigh in about a BLP controversy over at the John McCain talk page? Here's the issue, neutrally described: the McCain article has for a long time started with a photo of McCain that is a cropped version of his official photo. Both this cropped version and the original official photo include black clothing on a black background. Is it okay to change the background to blue, or would that violate some BLP policy? Presumably, cropping the image does not violate any BLP policy. Thanks in advance for any comments you care to make about this (pro or con).Ferrylodge (talk) 21:22, 4 May 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for commenting.Ferrylodge (talk) 00:45, 5 May 2008 (UTC)
And for contacting DC.Ferrylodge (talk) 00:54, 5 May 2008 (UTC)
I just wanted to make sure you're aware that a request has been made for Peer Review of the McCain article.[1]Ferrylodge (talk) 07:23, 9 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Your role in Hogenakkal Falls

I guess you became active in HK falls article on request by Wikiality123. At random your comments were interpreted by Wikiality123 as that from Admn. Please clarify whether your comments are as an editor or Admn or both. It will be helpful to know which comment is under what role for e.g one made on 13:22, 29 April 2008. I am asking these clarifications since I have never faced this situation during my tenure in Wikipedia. The major concern I have is that your comments were mostly towards me than contents of comment. Also your comments repeatedly pushed for unwarranted blocking. Please note I do not have an issue about your participation in the article. But I need clarification about the role. Thanks. Naadapriya (talk) 08:12, 5 May 2008 (UTC)

You do not seem to me to be aware of policies regarding this matter. An admin is an admin, it is impossible to separate the function. And you make a serious mistake in your own statements above. The content which you were seeking to include was not acceptable given your own failure to produce evidence to support its inclusion. Despite this fact, you repeatedly engaged in unacceptable behavior, which was noted not only by myself but others as well. Such misconduct is a violation of several policies and guidelines, and is a potentially blockable offense. I did not by the way ever push for unwarranted blocking, as I never "pushed" for blocking. I was indicating that your behavior was such that you could be seen as qualifying for a block. I am sorry that you are apparently unable to perceive the difference, but that problem is not mine.
In fact, I regret to say that your possibly willful misrepresentation of the situation as it existed at the time, coupled with your regular refusal to abide by policies and guidelines, which was noted by others as well, hardly enhances your credibility, rather the opposite in fact. You have been repeatedly advised to actually review our extant policies and guidelines so that you would have a better idea of how to conduct yourself than you have to date displayed. I have to assume from your statements above that you had as of that writing still not done so. I therefore suggest to you once again that you try to familiarize yourself with our standards of conduct, so that you do not continue to break them. John Carter (talk) 14:39, 9 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Hey John

Hey John, as you know, Tony has withdrawn his oppose so I believe we can reach the so awaited FA with some work. My question is:

The following sentence seems to be too praising:

After the release of this film, Zinta was recognised for her versatility as an actress; commended for work portraying a wide range of characters in Kya Kehna, Sangharsh and Chori Chori Chupke Chupke, and credited with establishing a new image for leading actresses in Bollywood.

What do you think about changing it to:

"After the release of this film, Zinta was often recognised for her versatility as an actress. Critics attributed her characters in Kya Kehna, Sangharsh and Chori Chori Chupke Chupke, as to establishing a new image for leading actresses in Bollywood."

What do you think John? Shahid • Talk2me 09:33, 8 May 2008 (UTC)

The original is a problematic sentence. Not only are you using the same reference in just a few words but you are basically saying the same thing twice and the tone is far too gushing at the same time with all those claims in one sentence. Recognizing her versatility as an actress is exactly the same thing as critics attributing her portrayal of a wide range of characters. It just isn't right. There should be two claims -that critics recognized her versatility in playing a wide range of characters and that her roles were quite symbolic in that they contributed to a new perception of a Hindi film heroine.

Shahid's newest example seems fine but

This sentence seems right to me:

"After the release of this film, critics recognized her versatility as an actress and attributed her roles in Kya Kehna, Sangharsh and Chori Chori Chupke Chupke as contributing to new perception of a Hindi film heroine".


PLease read the comments I've made on Shahid's talk page and join in the discussion as to how to try to improve it ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ $1,000,000? 09:39, 8 May 2008 (UTC)

You have an email. I'm curious ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ $1,000,000? 15:22, 9 May 2008 (UTC)

There we go. Check the main page Liberian National Museum. Perhaps you would like a reading break? ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ $1,000,000? 17:02, 9 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Question

Sandy, is it OK to leave a message on one editor's talk page and indirectly ask him to oppose the nomination at a certain FAC? That's what the only editor who opposed at the Zinta FAC did now twice. Shahid • Talk2me 21:38, 9 May 2008 (UTC)

I've sent the comment to both Sandy and you because I wanted both of you to know about this. Shahid • Talk2me 21:49, 9 May 2008 (UTC)
Yes John, and I'm referring to this also. He says, "Would you also be able to weigh in on this FAC? imho, it is bad enough not to be FA."
After editors like Tony and Laser withdrawing their opposes and one of them even changing to "support" - we get to that. Shahid • Talk2me 21:56, 9 May 2008 (UTC)

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[edit] Christianity Project Elections

Can we close the elections now ? Please accept the post of Lead co-ordinator . You are more deserved and eligible for the role. -- ₮inucherian (Talk) - 05:13, 9 May 2008 (UTC)

Do you mind being the Lead co-ordinator of the prjt ? If so, I shall close the elections -- TinuCherian (Wanna Talk?) - 13:20, 10 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Togo

I've created a template monster at Template:Bassar Prefecture. When I've comepleted it there will be severa; hundred articles to tag for togo. Have you organized a bot yet such as JohnBot which could be used to pound on those talk pages?? ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ $1,000,000? 14:36, 10 May 2008 (UTC)

I would strongly suggest you try to create your own personal one. It would save you so many hours of tagging. I'm certain a bot could be created to get these Africa setltements up and running also but so far nothing ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ $1,000,000? 14:52, 10 May 2008 (UTC)

Well I've never been one of the computer science nerds either. Thats isn't my thing either. But in this day and age you shouldn't have to do that huge amount manually for tagging I don't think espically if there are a batch of articles which have the same level of importance or class. Could you try addressing it to User talk:MBisanz and say we want things done 10 times faster! ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ $1,000,000? 14:59, 10 May 2008 (UTC)

That sounds promising. I'm just having some computer trouble every page is taking like 2 minutes to load. I just cleared the browsing history which was enormous but its still playing up. I'll do a reboot now see if it goes back to normal. Regards ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ $1,000,000? 15:26, 10 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] problem editors

hell john, im having a little bit of a dispute with two editors on the grunge music article with this user [2] and this user[3]i made a small change to the decline section to mesh better and be more accurate with the statements made with in the section but some how these users keep reverting and are unwilling to compromise i have not made a disscusion on the article page but i have been trying to come to a compromise on one of the problem editors user page but they just keep reverting the edit and i gave a 3 revert rule warning to one if you could look into this thank you i dont know what elese to do --Wikiscribe (talk) 22:14, 10 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Play party (BDSM) (2nd nomination)

Since you are part of Wikipedia:WikiProject Sexology and sexuality, i would appreciate it if you could voice your opinion on the article Play party (BDSM), which is currently up for deletion. --Simon Speed (talk) 22:50, 10 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] ISSO (Swaminarayan)

I wanted to move the above but to its full name, International Swaminarayan Satsang Organisation, which redirects to the above. However, the redirect there prevents me from doing so. I understand that ur an admin, an u pl. do this? Thanks, Wheredevelsdare (talk) 23:24, 10 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Cleanup listings

Hello,

recently you requested cleanup listings for Wikipedia:WikiProject Christianity, Wikipedia:WikiProject Saints, Wikipedia:WikiProject Religion, and Wikipedia:WikiProject Cryptozoology. I'm not sure whether you already announced these listings to the other project members (I found nothing to that end on the project talk pages). My goal with this "test phase" of the cleanup listings is to gather feedback whether these kind of list are useful, and how they could be improved. So I'm interested that the project members actually take notice. I can of course post on those talk pages myself; I just wanted to find out whether you already left them a note somewhere or not. --B. Wolterding (talk) 15:11, 12 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Rfb participation thanks

Hello, John.

I wanted to personally thank you for taking part in the project-wide discussions regarding my candidacy for bureaucratship. After bureaucratic discussion, the bureaucrats decided that there was sufficient significant and varied opposition to my candidacy, and thus no consensus to promote. Although personally disappointed, I both understand and respect their decision, especially in light of historical conservatism the project has had when selecting its bureaucrats. If you have any further suggestions or comments as to how you think I could help the project, please let me know. As you felt the need to remain neutral, I would appreciate any particular thoughts or advice you may have as to what flaws in my candidacy you perceived and how you feel they may be addressed. Once again, thank you for your participation. -- Avi (talk) 19:58, 12 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Graceful loss vs havoc

Hi John. Since you know the Wikipedia policies better, please tell me what happens when:

  • Some user proposes a rename/merge and a vote is taken.
  • the proposing user threatens havoc thereafter if he loses.
  • The user proposing this loses the vote and continues to butcher the page, cause havoc and starts a process of slow merge and slow rename in a gradual manner to achieve the same affect as the vote that he lost.
  • Several other users are unhappy about this and hav eexpressed frustration on other pages as well. What can they do?

This is happening on the Blessed Virgin Mary page and is slow vandalism in my view. What are the Wikepedia remedies here?

Thanks History2007 (talk) 20:23, 12 May 2008 (UTC)

Thank you. I will follow your advice. History2007 (talk) 20:35, 12 May 2008 (UTC)
Your comment at Blessed Virgin Mary(John_Carter) makes a bit more sense (in context) now that I see what History2007 told you here.
I, "the user"
  • proposes a rename to Blessed Virgin Mary since I was it as a violation of WP policy
  • never threasted havoc
  • did, among many other things said, point out that I would edit the page-content fit the page-name if the page-name stayed the same.
  • have done this since the change (to meet WP policy) fell undone -- but have mostly added material.
  • did, get multiable reverts and accusations of "butcher the page"
  • did and do make continued efforts discuss content issues with History2007, but without much feedback from him as to what is ment by his accusations --Carlaude (talk) 21:35, 12 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] >Poke<

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- jc37 22:30, 12 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] how to take part in "Wikipedia:Requests for comment/Sarvagnya"

dear John_Carter , i wish if i would have some examples or assistance dealing with this page. regards:--@ the $un$hine . (talk) 23:31, 12 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Weird edit conflict

I can't figure it out, but I think your support somehow got swallowed up in a weird edit conflict, because it's not showing on the page? [4] SandyGeorgia (Talk) 00:41, 13 May 2008 (UTC)

Very weird. I did a null edit and now it's there. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 00:45, 13 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Re: kitties

Well, I assume you've read the relevant stuff here already? ;-)

Other than that, I'd suggest taking things slowly and not getting caught up in trying to change everything at once; that tends to lead to burnout (either yours or the rest of the members'). Particularly with a project such as Christianity, I'd suggest focusing initially on bringing all the various sub-groups onto the same page and consolidating them as much as possible.

Beyond that, watching what good ideas other projects come up with and adapting them for your own purposes tends to be fairly beneficial. It's largely a question of what the active membership wants and/or can sustain, though. Kirill (prof) 01:52, 13 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Thanks a lot

Thanks a lot for the award and kindwords. You made me really happy -- TinuCherian (Wanna Talk?) - 05:42, 13 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] May 2008 Newsletter

May 2008 Newsletter is ready to take off at Template:WikiProject_Christianity/Outreach/May_2008 . Let me know if there are any concerns or suggestions asap.I had asked BetacommandBot for delivery -- TinuCherian (Wanna Talk?) - 05:43, 13 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Board elections/2008

Well I do have a lot of ideas certainly as to how the wikimedia project can develop, for starters developing the most advanced translation and comprehensive language service on the web which I feel is extremely imortant in breaking down barriers in the world of knowledge. Any site which attempts to achieve the "sum of all knowledge free to anyone in their own language" cannot go on ignoring language development and how easier it would be if different wikipedias could translate across the project with a service.

I'm not sure how I would go about it being a board member, I also think I have good credentials, but if it means I would have to travel across the globe just to attend meetings then I would have to decline. Its a nice thought though. Regards ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ $1,000,000? 11:29, 13 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] edit potection request

edit protect request for the grunge music page for a couple of weeks the page is being reverted constantly--Wikiscribe (talk) 14:49, 13 May 2008 (UTC)