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snoyes 15:39, 28 Nov 2003 (UTC)

I redirected the song title to Don't Cry For Me, Argentina. Mike H 22:42, Jul 22, 2004 (UTC)

Oh, hi again! I redirected Dawn (band) to Tony Orlando and Dawn. They were known as that name for longer, plus Dawn was mentioned at Dawn (disambiguation) as being their initial name only. Also, the Tony Orlando and Dawn article had been in existence for a month or so before you started Dawn (band). Mike H 22:57, Aug 1, 2004 (UTC)

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[edit] Radio station substubs

Perhaps your radio station articles would be much improved if you added some content to the article, as opposed to simply copying infoboxes. It's best to keep substubs to a minimum. Besides, we want to know more about these stations! :) --Slowking Man 20:00, Sep 3, 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Answer the true/false quiz at...

Answer the true/false quiz at Category_talk:UK Radio Stations. 66.245.107.72 20:00, 3 Sep 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Roy of the Rovers

Well done. Did you see that this was on my to do list? Mintguy (T) 21:52, 20 Sep 2004 (UTC)

No no... I'm very busy at the moment and probably wouldn't have got round to writing it for a long time. Mintguy (T)

[edit] Hybrid Grape

I returned Rubired and Ruby Cabernet to the red wine section of List of grape varieties. They are not hybrids in the sense used when talking about grapes. That is they are hybrids of two Vitis vinifera varieties but they are not hybrid grapes which are crosses of Vitis vinifera (European) grapes with any of the American grape species (usually Vitis lambrusca or Vitis riparia). Rmhermen 14:28, Oct 22, 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Grape Stubs

Please don't make stub articles for every variant spelling of every grape variety. That is what redirects are for. One article at a popular name variant with appropriate redirects is prefered. Rmhermen 21:08, Oct 30, 2004 (UTC)

Please keep working on grape varieties. To further explain I wouldn't expect to find different short entries for dog, chien, hund because different countries have different names for one animal. Wikipedia is a general encyclopedia (well, sort of). The Alverhao thing appears to go back to mid-September when User:129.130.245.161 added the incorrect information. That user's only contributions appear to be badly formatted cut-and-paste jobs from online wine encyclopedias, leaving lots to clean up and copyright concerns in some cases. Rmhermen 13:51, Oct 31, 2004 (UTC)
I listed Category:Vititculturists on Wikipedia:Categories for deletion so it should go away. User:Justinc set up both the categories, wineries and vineyards. I believe it was with the idea that wineries would cover the business entities that produce wine often owning several plots of land which may have their own names. These named plots would be listed on category vineyards. But I can't find where I may have read that. Certainly neither category has many entries yet. Rmhermen 18:06, Oct 31, 2004 (UTC)
Thanks for your work on grape varieties, had started on some of them when I was working on German wine but were lots missing, and I have since moved onto comprehensovely doing the French AOC system, because it was easier to work out what to do than German classification, but today stumbled on Müller-Thurgau which I had meant to write before. Added a bit to it. Justinc 18:40, 4 Nov 2004 (UTC)
I am not too bothered about the wineries and vineyards categories, was just trying to tidy up some things that seemed badly classified before. DO whatever you like, not sure it matters until there are lots more entries. Justinc 18:40, 4 Nov 2004 (UTC)
Some of the stub articles for different spellings was my fault, when I started Germany I put info on German pinot noir under spatburgunder. Later I split pinot noir by country to put this information in and think that works pretty well for cases where there are interesting things to say about how its used in different countries Justinc 18:40, 4 Nov 2004 (UTC)
Someone has listed all the sherry entries as candidates to be merged with sherry. I am not so sure about this, maybe they should just be expanded???

[edit] Strictly Come Dancing

Very NICE formatting. I tweaked the dates, as I know that series 2 ends in December. There will be a Christmas special on Dec 22 with couples from series 1 vs couples from series 2. Probably top 4 celebrities of each, but still no decision on professional partners. Martin TB 16:35, 14 Nov 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Article Licensing

Hi, I've started a drive to get users to multi-license all of their contributions that they've made to either (1) all U.S. state, county, and city articles or (2) all articles, using the Creative Commons Attribution-Share Alike (CC-by-sa) v1.0 and v2.0 Licenses or into the public domain if they prefer. The CC-by-sa license is a true free documentation license that is similar to Wikipedia's license, the GFDL, but it allows other projects, such as WikiTravel, to use our articles. Since you are among the top 1000 Wikipedians by edits, I was wondering if you would be willing to multi-license all of your contributions or at minimum those on the geographic articles. Over 90% of people asked have agreed. For More Information:

To allow us to track those users who muli-license their contributions, many users copy and paste the "{{DualLicenseWithCC-BySA-Dual}}" template into their user page, but there are other options at Template messages/User namespace. The following examples could also copied and pasted into your user page:

Option 1
I agree to [[Wikipedia:Multi-licensing|multi-license]] all my contributions, with the exception of my user pages, as described below:
{{DualLicenseWithCC-BySA-Dual}}

OR

Option 2
I agree to [[Wikipedia:Multi-licensing|multi-license]] all my contributions to any [[U.S. state]], county, or city article as described below:
{{DualLicenseWithCC-BySA-Dual}}

Or if you wanted to place your work into the public domain, you could replace "{{DualLicenseWithCC-BySA-Dual}}" with "{{MultiLicensePD}}". If you only prefer using the GFDL, I would like to know that too. Please let me know what you think at my talk page. It's important to know either way so no one keeps asking. -- Ram-Man (comment| talk)

[edit] Radio station infoboxes

Perhaps when you have time you could go over some of the stubs you created with the messy blue-box code and replace them with the concise syntax for Template:Radio station (see Template_talk:Radio station). There's a very long list to get through! ed g2s • talk 13:32, 16 May 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Lat/long

Hi, i got the lat/long numbers from multimap ([1] and on there it labels them as north and west, not east. Seems very odd - thanks Bluemoose 07:56, 19 May 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Lat/Lon

I noticed that you have changed some lat/lon figures from west to east. I think they are now not correct. I have got my own figures (example: Clifton Reynes from paper ordnance survey maps. Longitude is measured in degrees from the grenwich meridian. It never goes more than 180 degrees. If it is 20 degrees west then it is also 340 degrees east but it is called 20 degrees west as 340 is more than 180. Borb 12:12, 24 May 2005 (UTC)

I have just discovered that you have talked to bluemoose about this matter and I think what you have done is in fact correct. I thought you were just arbitrarily chaning W to E becasue you thought it was standard. My mistake. A negative W values does equal the positive east value. Borb 12:18, 24 May 2005 (UTC)

[edit] French communes

Thank you for creating so many articles for communes in the Ain département. When you get the chance, would you be interested in jumping down the alphabet to Lot département? Communes of the Lot département, which looks at lot like Communes of the Ain département (no pun intended) has been in cleanup since October 2004, and having more blue links would go a long way toward cleaning it up. Thanks, NatusRoma 22:28, 25 September 2005 (UTC)

Thanks for your work on the communes. You might want to join the Wikipedia:WikiProject French communes, which definitely needs some traction. olivier 00:35, 26 September 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Bot

I've a plan to write a bot to create decent stubs for French Communes. I've done some manual work on the Le Puy series which shows the sort of thing (with additional human editing). The output side of the bot is largely complete and I've some work done on screen-scraping for input. Haven't got around to looking for permission to run it yet! I've you're interested in discussion or collaboration leave a note on my talk page. Dlyons493 Talk 19:36, 26 September 2005 (UTC)

    • OK I've joined and left some stuff on the talk page there. Talk to you again.

[edit] list of AOCs

Er, I think you listed the entries from the Hachette wine library Dictionary of wine. Actually this is a very bad list of AOCs, as things like "Alsace pinot ou klevner" are not AOCs, just the way the book does things. While it is a good listing, please use the official AOC list of possible, especially for the list (which I see only as a temporary matter before we get all the AOCs done). If you use that book, use the official AOCs it lists in the entries (and bear in mind that while it is a good fill in, not all the details are that accurate).

But I would love any help in filling in the AOCs - its hard work and there are lots to do...Justinc 23:45, 12 October 2005 (UTC)

or possibly you used another source. Not sure. Removed some of the Alsace bogus ones anyway as a start. Justinc 23:49, 12 October 2005 (UTC)
I will check the officisl sites, but anything you write is helpful Justinc 23:36, 13 October 2005 (UTC)
Note that All the Rhone ones have (albeit stubby) entries, as do Alsace, Champagne, Jura, Provence. I did all the articles as xxx AOC to distinguish from the places. I will remove redlinks later - going out now. Justinc 13:56, 16 October 2005 (UTC)
The INAO website sucks. I think the Appellation is "Vin de Savoie" (for example) and the rest are just variants and shouldnt appear on our list, but still not sure... Justinc 17:58, 16 October 2005 (UTC)
I think I have worked out how to use the INAO site now. If you click through the terrible flash menu system to an individual item, when the actual popup appears it does tell you the real AOC at the bottom. I think all the mousseaux etc ones are bogus, and I think there is only one Savoie, not all the subdivisions, but I think you are allowed to show the more specific ones on the label (hence they have entries on their site). I will try to edit them all out in one edit so it is easy to revert if this isnt correct and label it in the history, once I have finished browsing INAO and my other references (Alsace I am sure about which is why I deleted them before). The Hachette book is missing some Rhone appelations that have been there since 1975 that are on this list which really annoys me, as its not that old and I only bought it (very cheaply) to help fill them in. And I realised that my attempt to de-redlink all the grape varieties in the AOCs I had done before was not complete. Ah well. Justinc 23:47, 16 October 2005 (UTC)

[edit] London Underground Trivia

I was looking at the St John's Wood tube station page at read the bit about the trivia. Looking at the history I noticed you had added it in!

Obviously the "mackrel" bit is quite common, but I was fascinated to read about all the others you mentioned - particularly other stations' words...

Long story short - I think that is a great topic area and it'd be great if you could make a page about it - illustrating examples. It'd definitely bring contributions from others, but it'd be a great source of trivial information. Do let me know if you take up the offer! Deano 15:29, 22 October 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Call for consensus on fan site list on Andy Murray page

Hello Smb1001,

You've probably noticed my (probably foolhardy) attempt to resolve the edit war on the Andy Murray page regarding fansites. The protagonists do not look about to resolve it among themselves, so I'd appreciate it if you and other regular editors could express your views on this part of the page, so that we can stop the war going forward, or at least block a protagonist who persists in it. Please come to the talk page here

The questions I've put are:

Please can I have the opinions of those who regularly edit this site:

1.Should there be a list of fansites?

2.Should it be ordered

a) alphabetically
b) by site's popularity or quality
c) by some other factor

3. If by popularity/quality how to judge this?

Thanks RobbieC 21:11, 5 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Quick clarification on the dates

Howdy, I just ran across your article Notre-Dame de Boulogne in Special:Newpages and wished to nominate it to run on the Main Page as part of the DYK section. I was hoping to use the selling off and demolishing of the old cathedral as the hook, but could use a clarification on the exact date worship there was prohibited, or when the building was sold off, or when it was demolished. Does the literature provide any of these? I ask because the revolutionary governments were kind of short-lived, and it'd be nice to pin one of the events down to either the National Convention, Directory, or Consulate (since the Empire is excluded due to the date.) Any idea on any of the dates? If not, don't worry, I'll find something to use to bring in the punters :) GeeJo (t)⁄(c) • 00:57, 4 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Did you know

Updated DYK query On 8 November 2006, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Notre-Dame de Boulogne, which you created. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the "Did you know?" talk page.

--GeeJo (t)⁄(c) • 22:42, 8 November 2006 (UTC)


[edit] WikiProject France

A proposal has been made for the above WikiProject at Wikipedia:WikiProject_Council/Proposals#France. Would you be interested in contributing to it? STTW (talk) 20:41, 23 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] English vs. French spelling

Because of your past work on the Wikiprojects for French "régions", "départements" or "communes", I thought you might be interested in contributing to the current discussion over French vs. English spelling of those very words taking place at Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_France#Anglicisation. Cheers. --NYArtsnWords 23:53, 18 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] HSMP

You created this page as a disambiguation page with one entry. A redirect would be much more appropriate, and so I have turned it into one. J Milburn 11:57, 4 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] A long time ago...

... you started this article. I'm trying to get List of people associated with Jesus College, Oxford to Featured List status at the moment, and Lord Thomas is proving to be a bit of a problem! I'm trying to find sources for (a) when he graduated - I know he matriculated in 1938, but did he complete his degree before joining up or did he complete it after the war? (b) what his degree was in - I assume law, but I may be wrong. Who's Who doesn't really help me, and I can't find anything particularly helpful through Google. So I wondered whether you might know of a helpful source. Bit of a long-shot, I know... Thanks for your time. Regards, BencherliteTalk 23:25, 16 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] List of snakes by common name

Hi Smb1001! Question: why did you copy the old contents of List of snakes to the new article List of snakes by common name? As an explanation you gave "Addition of text previously the body of List of snakes until replace by scientific classification." However, isn't that exactly what was done? (PS - You can answer here as I've got your talk page on my watchlist). --Jwinius 00:04, 11 September 2007 (UTC)

Hi. As I'm sure you spotted, the List of snakes page was a list by common name until it the content was unilaterally deleted in favour of the scientific classification. Though I approve of that change in principle, I still feel there's a place for the list by common name and so readded it on a new page, as you saw. What are you proposing be done? Smb1001 17:45, 11 September 2007 (UTC)
Delete it. That may sound uncompromising, but I figure there are a number of good reasons to do so:
  • As I once commented in the discussion section of the original article, if you know that there are currently some 2,700 species of snakes -- over 3,500 if you count the subspecies and genera along as well -- and if you figure that there are at least two common names for every taxon (there are over 30 for Agkistrodon piscivorus), then you will eventually end up with a list of at least 7,000 names. That's far too long to be practical.
  • Since there's not much of a system to common names, they will mostly all be jumbled among each other, so it can offer little insight, i.e. there's little educational value, so why maintain such a list? (That in itself will not be easy).
  • Snakes have been an important hobby of mine for almost 40 years, but even I don't recognized some of the names on that list. The problem here is that the contributers don't say which species they belong to or where they got them either, so how are we supposed to know what to do with them? They could just as well be nonsense names and we'd never know it.
  • Finally, a real drawback. Such a list can actually inspire people to create new articles using those links, which can easily lead to articles that fall outside of the ITIS taxonomy we mean to follow. That's a waste of effort. I run into such articles every once in a while when creating redirects for common names.
Don't get me wrong here: I don't think there are many here at are WP who take common names as seriously as I do. It's just that they are not helpful in creating the orderly framework we need for the snake project, which is why I don't like to see their use being encouraged so directly. I'm not against lists either. For example, I just made one today: List of pythonid species and subspecies.
Instead, what I propose is to make more lists like these and integrate them in List of snakes. That article will then contain the following:
  • A list of all snake families, subfamilies and genera along with their common names (if known). We have this.
  • Lists of lists of species and subspecies by family or subfamily. Sometimes, these lists may have to be subdivided further. E.g., "List of elapid species and subspecies" would be too long, so we could split off sublists for large genera like Micrurus (coral snakes).
  • Lists of common name categories by family and subfamily. For example: Category:Rattlesnakes by common name and Category:True vipers by common name. These will have to be reordered and renamed, but you get the idea.
  • Lists of synonym categories by family and subfamily. For example: Category:Rattlesnakes by taxonomic synonyms and Category:True vipers by taxonomic synonyms. Again, these will be modified.
So, what do you think... does this sound like a plan or what? :-) It may look ambitious, but I don't think anything like this exists yet and it'll be really cool when it's finished!! Such a system will also have the advantage that if people use these red links to create new snake articles, the resulting articles will fall neatly within the taxonomy we follow, often with readily available geographic range information from the genus articles. If you have any other ideas, I'd be happy to hear them. --Jwinius 21:15, 11 September 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for the explanation. I fully understand your scientific rationale and agree with the vast majority of it. I'd also plead that my aim with the article was predominantly linguistic not taxonomic. A central point is that the vast majority of people who approach an article on a species of snake will do so from the starting point of the common name. In doing so they will of course be guided further by your excellent work on classification, but the common names still form the human face of the subject.

I don't accept your point that the sheer number makes it impractical; such a thought would render a dictionary impractical. Nor that it encourages articles outside the official taxonomy; if nothing else we should be tying the common names to their linnaean counterparts to actually encourage additions in the appropriate place from people who would otherwise be unaware of such intimidating Latin nomenclature.

But above all my aim is certainly not to tread on your toes here. Articles like this can live side by side -- eg List of plants by common name & List of garden plants, with the former a valuable spur for the latter. The snake page is not currently of the quality required, but I don't see a reason that it couldn't be. Finally (this will doubtless seem trivial, but it's a common use for such list pages I assure you) if someone is looking for info on a snake they were told about, "funny word, began with an 'h'", or "definitely had 'dwarf' in the name", then there is no other resource for it! Smb1001 00:24, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

How you're going to maintain such a long list is still a mystery to me. As for any quality, you know that's a fantasy. In reality, you're going to continue to rely on people like myself to hunt down all the common names for the species, create redirects for them, and only then will your common names link to the articles for the correct taxa. And that doesn't even always work. For example, I may already have a redirect for "Green palm pitviper", but what if your list contains "Green palm pit viper" or "Green Palm Pitviper"? In both cases there would be no link... unless I periodically check your list and make some extra redirects. And that's only if I recognize the name. However, I'll be honest with you: the idea of regularly scouring such a long list for unnecessary red links does not appeal to me.
And why would it not encourage articles to be created outside the official taxonomy? For example, if somebody sees that "Green Palm Pitviper" is a red link, they can still use it to start a new article. They can fill in the taxobox too, and they'd never know they were working on a duplicate article as long as they didn't try to make any redirects for the valid scientific name. Or they could make a redirect for an invalid scientific name. Either way, there would be no sign that anything was amiss.
How about this for an alternative: we add an extra category tag to all the common name redirects that we have for snake articles in order to create one huge category specifically meant for browsing common names. That would be in addition to the more specific category tags those redirects are already have. Think about it: never any red links, always accurate, automatic maintenance, and three columns means more names per screen. On the other hand, you'd have to go though 35 pages of 200 names to get to the end, but maybe the developers could help us with that. You could also chop the list into smaller sections by creating additional subcategories for "Rat snakes", "Rattlesnakes", "Sea snakes" and whatever, similar to what you already have. Does that sound interesting? --Jwinius 02:15, 12 September 2007 (UTC)
Well? Or do you just like making lists? --Jwinius 21:41, 22 September 2007 (UTC)
You may be onto something there, though you're evidently meaning it pejoratively. No objections as you clearly have a plan. But do leave something for the non-expert to contribute to, as I believe it's at risk of becoming overawing to all but herpetologists such as you. Smb1001 17:01, 23 September 2007 (UTC)
Forgive me if my tone sounded disparaging, but I've been open about my position. I'm admitting that you have a point when you say that there is a need for such a list or way in to the actual articles. My last idea will be a lot of work, but I think it'll be worth it. Right now I estimate that there are over 1,000 common name redirects for snake articles, and those are just for the ones that I've worked on, so perhaps I shall create a bot to help with some of the larger common name categories that already exist. Some examples of what already exists:
Eventually there will be many more. Remember also that each redirect can have multiple common name category tags (some already do). Can you see the possibilities here and of working together on this? :-) --Jwinius 20:11, 23 September 2007 (UTC)
If it's any help I've run a script over a processed copy of wp from 11/1/07 to find all pages redirecting to pages in one of a set of snake categories. It suffers from being 8 months old, but may be useful. It has 275 lines (I doubt I've found all the categories) and begins...
(category)|(pagename)|(list of pages redirecting to page)
Boas|Abaco Island Boa|Epicrates exsul
Boas|Amazon tree boa|Corallus hortulanus
Boas|Anaconda|Anakonda|Anacondas|Anaconda (zoology)|Anacondor|Andaconda
If you want it let me know where you'd like it put and what if anything we can do with it, though I'm sure get the idea.
That's nice, but I'm not sure we should use that (even if we can). Importing names like this without checking them first may turn out to haunt us later. Peter Uetz, the guy who set up the EMBL (NRDB) reptile database, created a problem for himself in a similar fashion. He thought he needed more common names too, so he found a way to use a book by Frank & Ramus (1996) called A Complete Guide to Scientific and Common Names of Reptiles and Amphibians of the World and imported the lot into his database. All seemed fine, until he discovered that Frank & Ramus made up many of the names themselves, and many were not even accurate (e.g. Bocage's horned adder doesn't have any horns). Now he's stuck with those names. In other words, it's probably safer if we build up our own database slowly and methodically and don't take any shortcuts. Besides, very many existing common name redirects use upper case, which doesn't sort properly among lower case names (now also preferred by WP:MOS). In those cases we'd simply have to make new redirects anyway. --Jwinius 22:51, 23 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] List of the addresses of fictional characters

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[edit] Midsummer Common

Hi.

I saw you removed the text the streets names in between bear names which reflect the trades and attractions which were located on those sites during the fair when you edited the Events section of the Midsummer Common page. Is there a good reason for dropping this information?

Cheers. Nick Levine 09:47, 3 December 2007 (UTC)

To confuse matters entirely, Park Street also used to be called "Garlic Lane", after Garlick Fair, which was held at what is now the corner of Jesus Lane and Park Street. Bluap 02:35, 4 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] DYK

Updated DYK query On 7 December 2007, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Stourbridge fair, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

--Carabinieri (talk) 00:00, 8 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Wikipedia:WikiProject French communes

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[edit] Épône

HI I was wondering if you could translate this beautifully detailed article from french wikipedia. 11:33, 16 March 2008 (UTC)

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[edit] Borders of Brazil

Please add references to the source of information on Borders of Brazil - otherwise it is likely it will be deleeted. Thanks, --  Chzz  ►  03:52, 3 June 2008 (UTC)