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[edit] User:Ram-Man/Licensing Guide

Hi Ram-Man,
I'm fairly sure no. 3 and 4 are not correct - what do you base those points on? --Fir0002 09:43, 7 February 2008 (UTC)

Number 3 is quite obvious because the text of the license says so. You must include a copy of the license along with the image. It can be either in physical or digital form, but it cannot be a link to some web address (with the exception of a web page, where you have to also host the copy, but can link to that copy, as Wikipedia does). You cannot link back to gnu.org or just provide the web address like you can with a Creative Commons license because that is not a copy.
Number 4 is just a rephrasing of the legal definition of a derivative work. Now it is possible for an image to be used in a "collective work", but this is unusual and not the normal usage. I could have just quoted the U.S. statute governing these terms, but then that wouldn't be as easy for everyone to understand either. It is simply not true that you can use any GFDL image with any text and not have that be a resulting derivative work. The rules for images are the same as the rules for text. If you copy text verbatim and add it to your document, that's exactly the same as copying a picture and adding it to your document. If either are GFDL, the entire document must be GFDL. Please see copyleft. I have this notice especially, because most people do not understand copyleft or the GFDL, so this has to be explicitly stated or people will violate my copyright. I have had infringers images taken down for this copyright violation in the past. When other users choose to ignore this type of violation when their own pictures are used, that is totally their business, but I won't allow it if they don't ask for the permission that I'm legally entitled to. The note on fairness is just plain common sense: people frequently try to rip off my work without properly licensing an image and without giving back their derivative works. They want something for nothing, but this isn't public domain, and that needs to be made very clear.
-- RM 12:48, 7 February 2008 (UTC)
OK fair enough - I can readily understand your concern with regards to copyright violations (it's something dear to my heart also); however I think you're stretching the terms of the GFDL on a technicality with regards to the GFDL link. I'm fairly sure that you wouldn't be able to do anything about it if someone merely linked back to the gnu.org copy or even the image description page on Wikipedia/commons - this has happened to me before. Number 4 I'm not sure on (hopefully I might be in a better position in six and half years when I finish my double degree!) - to me it wouldn't make sense to demand an entire 48 page book be released under the GFDL just because it includes a 8x5cm picture! Anyway I think what this really illustrates is the need for Wikipedia/commons to adopt a NC license! --Fir0002 10:45, 9 February 2008 (UTC)
The requirement for a copy to be included is one of the criticisms of the GFDL, something the CC license do not require. In copying large quantities in a printed medium, the license also requires that they provide a web link to the original or a digital copy, something I should probably add to my list of requirements. #4 is something most people do not like, but it is the purpose of copyleft. The point is that you can't normally use any part of a copyleft work in a non-copyleft work. The two are incompatible. In the case of an encyclopedia, however, each article is considered a separate work, so the license in one does not automatically become the license in the other. However, within an article, the images and text should all be the same license. I don't know how Wikipedia gets away with using CC licenses in a GFDL document, because such usage is supposed to be forbidden. I know that Wales and others are working on a new GFDL version that eliminates this problem. I suppose people just don't object or maybe there is a legal loophole somewhere. I avoid that issue entirely for my works, so I don't pay much attention to it. -- RM 15:37, 9 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Rambot city coordinate format

At WT:GEO I was wondering about the origin of city articles' DMS (decimal) coordinate format. I see Rambot created it in one article. Because clicking on a coordinate now shows both DMS and decimal coordinates, I was wondering why both formats were being used. Can you join the discussion there? -- SEWilco (talk) 05:22, 9 February 2008 (UTC)

There also are plans over there to convert the various coordinate formats to {{coord}}, which I see conflicts which Rambot's Mapit. -- SEWilco (talk) 05:24, 9 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] FPC
An image uploaded by you has been promoted to featured picture status
Your image, Image:Monarch Butterfly Danaus plexippus on Echinacea purpurea 2800px.jpg, was nominated on Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates, gained a consensus of support, and has been promoted. If you would like to nominate an image, please do so at Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates. Thank you for your contribution! Dengero (talk) 00:17, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Request to edit Template:DualLicenseWithCC-BySA-Future

Hi. There's a request to edit the template above, which you edit protected in 2005. It seems harmless to me, as a request to optionally add logos to the template, and unlikely to conflict with your stated reason for protecting the template, but my strengths are definitely not in template making, and I thought to ask you. :) Is it all right to implement this requested change? --Moonriddengirl (talk) 22:25, 14 February 2008 (UTC)

The page was protected to prevent the legal text from changing. Adding logos shouldn't be a problem. If you are worried about messing it up, make a copy in a personal sandbox to test it out. -- RM 00:57, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
Thanks, I'll give it a try. :) The person who is requesting the edit requested the last one, implemented in April of 2007 evidently without problems. I've tested it out at my sandbox, and it seems to be okay. --Moonriddengirl (talk) 01:06, 15 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates/Yellow Coneflower
An image uploaded by you has been promoted to featured picture status
Your image, Image:Yellow Coneflower Echinacea paradoxa Twisted Pair Bee 2000px.jpg, was nominated on Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates, gained a consensus of support, and has been promoted. If you would like to nominate an image, please do so at Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates. Thank you for your contribution! MER-C 05:20, 16 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Image:Monarch Butterfly Danaus plexippus on Echinacea purpurea 2800px.jpg

I hope that you can give me permission to use your image in my userpace as the featured picture of the month for May of 2008. I would also be humbled if you could send me the original high quality picture for personal reasons (I will not redistribute it). — Cuyler91093 - Соитяівцтіоиѕ 05:25, 18 February 2008 (UTC)

HI,

I'd like to know how to get some info I know is out ther I just dont know how.

I somehow got to your page because you edited the page for the township where I live and got some info.

I am new here but will look tomorrow to see if you get htis. Thanks tomjimcosky@yahoo.com —Preceding unsigned comment added by Tomj59 (talk • contribs) 05:37, 21 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Permission of use of monarch butterfly photos

Hi,

I am a butterfly enthusiast that is currently preparing a blog/website on butterflies and moths. I have came across this photo of monarch butterfly that is really gorgeous. As I am writing an general article on differences between moths and butterflies, I wanted to show the scales of the monarch butterfly taken by you using your photo. I will edit the photo for the explanation purpose but I will definitely include your name in the photo as well. I wonder is it ok? Sorry, I am not very good in this. I apologize if I sounded abrupt. Thank you very much —Preceding unsigned comment added by Avin316 (talk • contribs) 09:09, 28 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Bot for es:wiki

Hi, Ram-Man!

I am Racso, from the spanish Wikipedia. There we have aproved a policy that allows users (under certain [¡lot of!] conditions) to run articles-creating bots. I have created a bot that translates your Rambot articles into spanish. I know the bot works because I have used it for improving articles (Counties articles) that some people had already created (it has a problem: some of the articles have changed their text, so the bots has problems some times when translating; I corrected those translation bugs by hand). BUT... it cannot be used for creating articles because the policy states that a database shall be used, and I am using en:wiki as database, but I i think that is not valid because the data could be changed/vandalized.

That is why I am here. We are interested in making articles for all the counties, and for cities with more pop than X people (We are not sure about X; maybe 30K, 50K, don't know).

  1. ¿Have you released the source code of the bot? If you have, ¿where can I get it? If you have not, ¿is there any way you can share it?
  2. Or well, there is another solution: I can make another bot that takes the data directly from the source, but I don't know where is that. ¿Where does the bot takes the data for making the articles? I saw the U.S. census page, but all the data is really dispersed in lot of pages. ¿Is there any file containing all the data I can use?

That is all. Thank you very much for your atention, and sorry for my bad english ;). --200.114.40.62 (talk) 17:11, 2 March 2008 (UTC) (Racso)

[edit] Permission to use Image:Monarch Butterfly Danaus plexippus on Echinacea purpurea 2800px.jpg

Hi, I would like your permission to use this image once again. I would really appreciate it if you actually responded. :) Cuyler91093 (Contribs) 07:54, 4 March 2008 (UTC)

Using it in your userspace is perfectly compatible with the license. As per the request above, this is the highest resolution I have. -- RM 12:43, 5 March 2008 (UTC)
Thanks so much! おべんとう むすび (Contributions) 19:11, 12 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] possible issue with attribution of PD material in articles on towns

Hi Ram-Man -- In a discussion at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Cities#Public domain text style again, user SEWilco has suggested that two articles, for Bartlett, Illinois and Ephrata, Pennsylvania, and perhaps many more, are deficient for their failure to attribute use of public domain text. He asked me to contact you. Honestly, I believe he is trying to egg me on into making some too-broad criticism, and honestly I am unclear what are his true complaints about these articles that he singles out. But, if your "rambot" grabs information out of some census database or other public domain source, and generates an article about a town, then I probably would think it should include some attribution to the source. By the way, output from the Elkman NRHP infobox generator, includes a footnote to the National Park Service NRIS database that is its fundamental source. That generator has been very helpful in many thousands of wikipedia articles on NRHP sites, and I expect that your rambot has provided an equally valuable contribution in its domain. I don't know anything about your rambot though, and whether it can be improved in any way or not. Anyhow, could you please take a look at the discussion which has opened up? I'll look for your response there. Thanks! Sincerely, doncram (talk) 20:29, 12 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Bot activity

I was going over the list of bots and noticed that rambot (talk · contribs) has not edited in a very long time. Is this bot still active and if not, would you object to it being de-flagged? Please post your comments to Wikipedia_talk:Bots/Requests_for_approval#Dead_bots since this is a rather widely-posted message. MBisanz talk 01:39, 14 March 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for responding. Nothing will be done to Rambot flag status. I just was trying to clear out the automated list of accounts with the Bot flag, so its easier to keep track of whats going on. But of course, once your approved for a task, that approval doesn't expire due to inactivity. And back when I was an IP editor, what drew me to the Meta part of the site was all the discussion of Rambot's activities, which I thought were really cool and couldn't see why others objected to them. Happy editing. MBisanz talk 23:04, 20 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] TfD nomination of Template:Web reference simple

Template:Web reference simple has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the template's entry on the Templates for Deletion page. Thank you. Ctempleton3 (talk) 03:16, 24 March 2008 (UTC)

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[edit] You're invited!

You're invited to the
Sixth Philadelphia-area Wikipedia Meetup
April 5, 2008
Time: 5:00 PM
Location: The Marathon Grill, 10th and Walnut

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This has been an automated delivery by BrownBot (talk) 23:48, 28 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] pipeline phot0

permission to use you photo in a powerpoint presentation discussing a balnaced energy plan for the state of ALaska?

Chris Rennau 907.339.3904 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 209.193.48.104 (talk) 22:00, 11 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Planning for the 7th Wikipedia Meetup

The planning for the summer Philadelphia meetup has begun. We would appreciate your input.
You're getting this invitation because you're on Wikipedia:WikiProject Philadelphia/Philadelphia meet-up invite list. BrownBot (talk) 21:45, 7 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Thank you!

I would like to tell you that I´m using your gorgeous Golden Conure´s photo in my project for portuguese wikijunior book [[1]]. So, thank you and I would be very proud if you could go to see it RêBretz (talk) 21:59, 14 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] I forgot...

my name in wiki portuguese is Alustriel RêBretz (talk) 22:00, 14 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Funhouse info is relevant

The information about the fun house is relevant to the site, as it certainly one of the exceptional things about Orcas Island. It is a lot like the Exploratorium in San Francisco and for something like that to exist in a small rural community is worthy of note. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Presspot (talk • contribs) 17:14, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] How to request protection on Commons

I am curious as to how protection can be requested on subpages of a specific user...specifically, a page, such as subpage on the User profile that should only be modified by the user or an admin. If you could let me know, that would be appreciated. The specific pages are based on the Licensing Guide and License Terms on your subpages. --AEMoreira042281 (talk) 13:44, 1 June 2008 (UTC)