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[edit] The MML

I see you are a regular contributor. Could you please tell me if the Midland Main Line reaches Burton-(up?)on-Trent please? I don't find any reference to it on the Midland Mainline page. Worley-d 23:18, 3 January 2007 (UTC)

Answered at User_talk:Worley-d#Midland Main Line. Sladen 08:04, 6 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] AHA

I have some notability concerns with the amount of detail you put on the deflate page. Tomstdenis 18:00, 23 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Eurostar NoL transfer

I notice you've added some info about this, without providing a source. Obviously it'd be sad to delete it, but I can't find anything about it online to back it up. Where did you hear about it? --Dtcdthingy 01:48, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

Online references are a little hard to come-by, I first read this in the paper-based rail press. Lets see what we can find:

Off-topic, but useful to save for updating other related articles:

[edit] Template:Channel Tunnel Rail Link

Ah... I didn't realise the CTRL split and went roudn Dollands Moor. I through the left-hand loop was the SE main line. I've moved the notes from teh template to the main article, because otherwise the template stretche full width. I also tweaked the layout to clarfiy the situation with the SE main line. Tompw (talk) 21:07, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Midland Main Line template

Can I invite you to a discussion on the future of this template, and the possibility of creating two template from this one at Template talk:Midland Main Line. L.J.Skinnerwot|I did 18:09, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] bzip2

Your edition on bzip2 doesn't make any sense; a Wikipedia article is not a format specification or a user guide. Please revert it. (unsigned comment added by Santiago Roza (Kq) at 15:28, 16 August 2007).

Hello Santiago, good to meet you. I spotted your edit to the Bzip2 article, to which I'm sure all of the contributors to the Bzip2 article are very appreciative. When trying to improve Wikipedia, it is often good to take BOLD steps to test if an article can be improved. Your edit consisted of deleting 12kB out of the total 18kB of the article (67% of the article contents) which is quite a high percentage. As such I have reverted the change for the moment—an edit on such a large scale probably needs a good deal of discussion beforehand.
In Wikipedia, we have the guidance from the Wikipedia:BOLD, revert, discuss cycle policy; on that list, the next suggested step (following a reverted bold edit) is to raise the intended changes on the Talk:Bzip2 page. With detailed clear reasoning on how a suggested change could improve the article, it's much more likely that such large modification could be found to be an acceptable improvement. Once again, thank you for your contribution and willingness to be BOLD! —Sladen 23:20, 16 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Caledonian Sleeper

[edit] Fish transport/Inverness sleeper

Discussion moved across to Talk:Caledonian Sleeper#Fish transport/Inverness sleeperSladen 09:12, 11 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Stopping Patterns (seated/sleeping)

Discussion moved across to Talk:Caledonian Sleeper#Stopping Patterns - Seated/Sleeping (Stewart (talk) 08:29, 25 August 2007 (UTC))

[edit] Signatures

Hello, thanks for your contribution to the jZip article discussion. It looks like at least two of your recent comments were signed with the date&time only, and no username; one of them being on the above page, and the other this one. --AVRS 17:45, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

How strange. I did once spot this happen on a page and assumed it I must somehow of deleted it, so ignored it. Now that you've found it, and in two places... I'm puzzled. Thank you for fixing that recent comment, I've gone and fixed up the other one you linked to. I'm going to keep an eye out and if I can confirm seeing it happen again will try and escalate the issue (it could just repeatable human even, though that's a lot of coincidence). —Sladen 19:41, 7 September 2007 (UTC)
Testing:
  • This is the result from '—~~~': —Sladen
  • This is the result from '—~~~~': —Sladen 19:45, 7 September 2007 (UTC)
  • This is the result from '—~~Sladen': —19:45, 7 September 2007 (UTC)
  • This is the result from 'SladenSladen': —19:45, 7 September 2007 (UTC)~
Lets see what these get saved as. —Sladen 19:45, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Treago Castle

Yes I did add a reference to the locomotive named after Treago Castle some time ago and indeed played about by adding references to other Castle class locos and indeed other classes. Then many Wikipedians descended on me like a ton of bricks and complained that the references were trivial and not suitable for an encyclopaedia. Perhaps I had been too daring! So I deleted them all. But by all means keep the reference in this article if you wish. Incidentally I have deleted the "stub" assessment; the article is now more than that. It would be even more improved if you could find more references and include more inline citations – and maybe a copyright-free photo. Best wishes. Peter I. Vardy 10:57, 6 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Note on NXEC

Can i direct you to Wikipedia talk:Route diagram template#NXEC template? It is about the Template: NXEC route which was formally the one on the InterCity East Coast franchise. Simply south (talk) 20:13, 24 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Channel Tunnel Rail Link / High Speed One

Thanks for the politeness you employed when discussing these changes. Perhaps I had been too bold in redirecting links to the new page name. I did so for the sake of conformity. Though I feel it's appropriate to refer to the project in retrospect using the name "High Speed 1", this is a wiki, and I have no objection to you undoing any of my changes, and I encourage you to continue to make the case for the CTRL name on that talk page. Hopefully we'll eventually get to a solution that's agreeable to all. Cheers, Alcuin (talk) 21:18, 25 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Grand Central Railway

[edit] Template:Caledonian Sleeper

The     just did not look right to me. This is why I added the    . You are right in that the alignment did not look right. Another way could be to change the colour of the     to hide them in the background. --Stewart (talk) 08:52, 12 January 2008 (UTC)

Hello Stewart; are you missing those characters in your font? You shouldn't be able to see them at all (they're just space characters, like a Tab or breaking space), but if you select over them, they should be the same width as a normal digit. Do you have a screen-shot of what you are seeing and the browser/OS combination? —Sladen (talk) 12:21, 12 January 2008 (UTC)
Hi - screen shot uploaded. I am using XP Pro with IE6. As regards fonts, I am not aware of any fonts missing. Interesting point though about fonts. If I am seeing this who else is and what is the specific issue. Next week I will have a look at the template at work to see how it displays there. The two laptop PC at home are displaying this way, later on today I will have a look on the desktop (98SE with IE6 and Netscape 7). --Stewart (talk) 12:49, 12 January 2008 (UTC)


Looking at Space_(punctuation)#Table_of_spaces does encoding it as   (eg. ] [) help at all? The boxes in the screen-shot are because the character isn't being found, rather than the intended look. There's also some break on one of the "Anglo-Scottish Border" lines, which could do with investigating (with the fixed width of the table in pixels not quite width enough?). —Sladen (talk) 12:52, 12 January 2008 (UTC)
In preview mode I added additional text to the first instance of "Anglo-Scottish Border". This made the box wider and the gaps on the second instance disappeared. I would guess that the [show] tag does not appear to be involved in the calculation to determine the width of the box. --Stewart (talk) 14:25, 12 January 2008 (UTC)
Tried out this on the desktop. 98SE and IE6 shows the same as on the laptops. However the thumbnail to the right shows what is displayed with 98SE and Netscape 7.1. --Stewart (talk) 15:50, 12 January 2008 (UTC)
Yup, that's what I'd expect; presumably all of the Mozilla-based browsers are fine, and it's only MSIE that is having issues. Does the HTML entity coding change the result of what you see? —Sladen (talk) 16:20, 12 January 2008 (UTC)
Using   displays the square. Incidentally with NS7 the thumbnails above are to the left of the text, but around the middle of the page with quite a bit of white space to the right of them. --Stewart (talk) 16:33, 12 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Hanko-Hyvinkää imperial vs metric

Hi! I removed your note about the metric measurement drawings - I have copies of the "new", Hanko-made, drawings from 1875, and they're imperial... See the link that I added. Greetings, --Janke | Talk 10:03, 19 January 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for being quick off the mark and catching it! —Sladen (talk) 12:52, 19 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Rail Riders

Hi,

The original article was speedy deleted under criterion for speedy deletion A7, because it failed to assert notability -- that is, it did not even offer to explain why the group was renowned/successful/noteworthy enough for an encyclopedia. The article was also very short.

I've moved the content in the original article to your userspace at User:Sladen/Rail Riders. If you reliably source and expand the material, I'll be glad to move it to article-space for you once you've finished. Best wishes, Xoloz (talk) 15:52, 23 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] 7 minutes on Saturdays during a blue moon when Venus is visible

I was amused by your edit comment on the Grand Central page. Mind you, if their timetable was based on Lunar and Venusian calendar synchronisation, that might be worth including on the page! Talltim (talk) 15:54, 23 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Kate Kennedy Klub

Your nomination of the above redirect at Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Kate Kennedy Klub has been declined because it was in the wrong forum. Please feel free to nominate it at the correct page at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion. Also, please remember to tag the appropriate redirect page with the deletion template. In case of redirects, it's {{rfd}}. Thanks. - Mtmelendez (Talk) 22:21, 1 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Template:Welsh Highland Railway

Hello there, I notice you did a revert removing two changes: (1) the current layout at Porthmadog Harbour railway station, and (2) noting the flat-crossing across the standard gauge BR line.

  • At Porthmadog Habour, the main station fan turns sharply to the left; the new through platform for through WHR trains is in a straight line with the causeway crossing. Unless there are new plans for a triangle where the current station buildings as, it will not be possible to for WHR trains to reach the current station layout without reversal; and (again, unless things have changed) through running is likely to be rare as the Garretts used on the steeper WHR have gauging issues on the FR—so necessitating a change). Additionally the current train will stay, but the platform for the WHR isn't currently joined up to the WHR...
  • It is probably worth noting that the flat crossing is a flat crossing (it being believed to be unique in the UK since reinstatement).

Admittedly, it sounds like you have been there more recently than me (...an in this fast-moving world, things change by the week!  :-). —Sladen (talk) 13:57, 2 February 2008 (UTC)

Quite a lot is happening at Porthmadog at present. Firstly, there is a possibility that WHR trains will initially have to use the existing platform. In discussion with the Deputy Operating Manager last week (and last summer) the intention is to use the through platform whereever possible (both FR and WHR trains) as it is straight and easier operate from.. Probably before Easter the plan is install the WHR points at Porthmadog in a similar position to the original point removed in the 1950's / 60's. Over the past I have been party to numerous discussions on the new layout and potential operations, and have also seen a lot of un-offical rumours which bear no resemblance to anything that is being considered. It has put me in an awkward position, until the offical line becomes public.
Out of interest, I was walking south along the new line between Nantmor and the site of the project Hafod-y-Lyn halt which is close to Afon Nanmor bridge. See the picture I took a week or so ago now on the official WHR site. Also Habour Station as work started last week (also that I have submitted to the offical site). —Preceding unsigned comment added by Pencefn (talkcontribs) 14:55, 2 February 2008
I suspect most of my information on the WHR construction comes from the same place as yours... but second-hand instead of first-hand! :-)
The BR/WHR flat crossing, does indeed "appear" to be a flat crossing. At Porthmadog Habour there's two areas, one that exists and one which doesn't. One of which handles terminating traffic today and one of which may handle some, none, or all, of traffic in the future (but is capable of through running with a Fairlie, at least in the Dinas→Blaenau direction).
I think the single-"station symbol" layout might make more sense when things are open, my intention with the two changes was to add more clarity for the time being; perhaps it is a case that neither is wrong and neither is right? —Sladen (talk) 11:06, 4 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] CIWL

Great job bringing it back to life. I hope to have some time to add something over the next couple of weeks. Ekem (talk) 02:37, 5 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] re: Oie Masafusa → Ōe no Masafusa

[edit] Midland Metro icon in routeboxes

[edit] St Pancras railway station (was: Assume good faith!)

Please assume good faith - plenty of signage at St Pancras says "International", in all three parts of the station (FCC/EMT/Eurostar). best, Sunil060902 (talk) 14:22, 20 February 2008 (UTC)

Indeed, the majority of signs immediately surrounding the station itself now have variations on "...International". Commuting by train Nottingham→London (and more recently Helsinki→London) I have been very lucky to see the gradual growth of the area around the redevelopment of the complex. A wonderful experience, even if I kept wishing it would happen a little bit faster.
Remember that the station infobox has to squeeze in information regarding routeing, ticket code (codes in the case of STP, even though the template does not allow that currently), management, colloquial name and history. The introduction of the "xyz International" branding relating for the CTRL services and Eurostar-managed area is very recent, and even Eurostar's own "Meet me at St. Pancras" marketing campaign did not [nor attempt to] try to alter the name of the historic station within the mind of the travelling public.
(I may be getting wrapped up in myself and off-topic here). I would like to thank you for your large number of edits, with the quantity of small, uncommented changes it was hard to follow. By restoring to the previous known-good version, whitespace noise can hopefully be re-added, clearly showing the most important changes, along with the reasoning behind each one along with its reference. —Sladen (talk) 14:31, 20 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] National Tramway Museum

Hello Sladen,

Your recent rewords to National Tramway Museum and Tramcars of the National Tramway Museum caught my attention! Most was fine, but a few minor things came up that I have edited - please feel free to look at them.

Also, please comment on my lead reword to the main NTM page!

Thanks,

BG7 19:45, 25 February 2008 (UTC)

Thank you for building up the page. I think my intention with the edits to the area above the Table-of-Contents (the introduction) was to try give a high-level overview for a reader with no prior knowledge of the museum. I tried to move all the "numbers and details" further down the page.
Crich generally [since 1999] describes itself as "Crich Tramway Village, the Home of the National Tramway Museum"; I couldn't manage to improve upon that whilst keeping the word count low (this is for an introduction). Looking through the images already linked I moved the Leeds 180 up. This photo covers several things, countryside, street scene, a historic tram with typical adverts and neatly framed with the bridge... in essence a high-level overview. My hope is the opening text can achieve the same.
A "village" tends to have a pub, sweet-shop and the like (museums, certainly so); these details would be very useful under a detailed sub-heading (perhaps "Facilties"). A tramway might be expected to have a depot, containing trams. Details of the depot and numbers of trams might fit better under, say a "Fleet" heading. If the number of operational trams (kid: "what's a tram?") really needs to be mentioned, I'm wondering if it could be done in a way that won't easily age, or date the article (I did notice the Template:).
Would you be happy if the "details and numbers" were moved further down the article. I do believe they should be there, but it's quite alot of information to take in from the first four paragraphs. Once again, thank you for having put so much more energy into the page that I could possibly have assembled so quickly!
Sladen (talk) 22:09, 25 February 2008 (UTC)
  • de-interlaced reply from above; see History.
Hi Sladen,
I've replied within!
Yeh, that makes sense!
I was aware about CTV, but the artccle is about the NTM, so I swapped them over! It still mentions it! (I think we need an article about CTV, as that's the tourist attraction.)
Yeh I understand about word count. I think i'll rewrite the WHOLE thing this afternoon.
Do you want a pic with most things in it? I can get one on Sunday.
Yeh, let's add a section then. I will be updating the fleet list almost daily, and i'm setting up a system that counts the Operational systems in the fleet list, and then adds it too the temp.
Yeh sure. It needs a major clean-up. Would you have any objections if I adopted the article, along with the fleet list, and then reworked it in my sandbox?
BG7 09:35, 26 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Sally Nicholls

Hi. I've restored the page, but there really isn't much meat to it. At the moment it's like a cross between an advert and a "best friend" essay. It would be vastly improved if some independent citations could be added. Deb (talk) 18:48, 28 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Re:TGV

Here are the photos here and here. I didn't get a picture of it, though I should have, but you could see where they removed the "Eurostar" stickers on the train. It's at Paris Gare de Nord, and it was only service to Lille with through service to Calais. It's probably the Three Capitals set since I'm nowhere near North of London. I apologise if I'm wrong, maybe you can help me out. --MPD T / C 22:01, 1 March 2008 (UTC)

The picture shows 3304; which is one of the shorter "North of London" sets, that SNCF started leasing a year ago. AFAIK, the full length ex-Eurostar sets are in semi-TGV blue/white and the short sets have had just had their logos removed—similar to the state they were in during the previous GNER lease. I'll revert the change for the moment since the photo seems to comfirm the status-quo, rather than despute it; please do keep a look out for any changes though! Sounds like you're in a much better position to than somebody living in Helsinki is! —Sladen (talk) 00:28, 2 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Whitespace alteration Question

Hi there I just wanted to ask a question. I noticed that you were telling someone that they should not of altered the "Whitespace" in the Get This page. I edit pages a bit but I dont understand what you meen by this. Can you explain it to me as so I don't end up making the same changes/mystakes. Thankyou MattyC3350 (talk) 10:04, 6 March 2008 (UTC)

Hello Matty. I suspect you're referring to the note at User_talk:Tabletop#White-space changes on Iobox (in reference to an edit to the Iobox) article. The best way to show this is to look at the edit that was made. This edit made a single-letter spelling correction, but at the same time made eight small white-space (layout of spaces, tabs and newlines) in the article source code; shown in green/yellow. There's some guideance about how the automated tools that do these small changes can cause problems when reviewing diffs (since it looks like much more has changed that really has) at Wikipedia:AWB#Rules of use. Hope that helps! —Sladen (talk) 10:21, 6 March 2008 (UTC)
Thankyou for taking the time to explain that to me, was a great help. MattyC3350 (talk) 10:52, 6 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Happy First Day of Spring!

[edit] Re:AIV

Thank you for your polite and reasoned response. I realize that it may be frustrating to deal with vandalism and not have a block as the result of your hard work in that regard, but the problem with blocking stale IPs is that the next time that IP is used, it is a person that was not the target of the intended block. This is the reasoning behind the procedure at WP:AIV only to give blocks to active vandals, which tends to avoid the above situation. Also, note that per the blocking policy, blocks are not punitive; therefore, a block cannot be given to an IP here when there is no active vandalism or disruption. Despite this, good work with your anti-vandal work. It is certainly appreciated. Regards, Sephiroth BCR (Converse) 03:51, 21 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Search function changes.

In the last day or two someone has changed the search function, not necessarily advantageously. Would you know who?

The changes are:

  • No longer reports total number of matches, a real bummer.
  • No longer able to navigate up and down 20 matches at a time, another bummer.
  • Now always matches partial matches, with line of context, this is useful.

Tabletop (talk) 10:20, 23 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Speedy deletion of Template:Channel Tunnel

A tag has been placed on Template:Channel Tunnel requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section T3 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because it is a deprecated or orphaned template. After seven days, if it is still unused and the speedy deletion tag has not been removed, the template will be deleted.

If the template is intended to be substituted, please feel free to remove the speedy deletion tag and please consider putting a note on the template's page indicating that it is substituted so as to avoid any future mistakes (<noinclude>{{transclusionless}}</noinclude>).

Thanks. --MZMcBride (talk) 21:40, 23 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Soyuz

Thanks for pointing Soyuz out to me. I looked before, but somehow missed it. I added a mention back to the article, but didn't include it among the bullets mainly because all the other bullet items correspond to very visible featured items. But if you disagree, please edit directly, I admit I don't know that much about Launchpad. Wesley (talk) 04:41, 26 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Links on Acid test

Are Acid1, Acid2, and Acid3 often referred to as "Acid test"? I saw that you had replaced those links on the disambiguation page Acid test, but it did not seem clear that they could be easily confused with the term "Acid test", hence why I had removed them before. If they are easily confusable with that term, then they should certianly be there, but I was not aware of them being so. Any information you have would be much appreciated. -- Natalya 17:35, 7 May 2008 (UTC)

Certainly. Have you seen the top Google hit for q=acid-test! —Sladen (talk) 11:28, 8 May 2008 (UTC)
Thanks. It appears the articles mention it too - somehow I missed the "is a test page for browsers". Thanks for the clarification - pardon the doubt! -- Natalya 19:06, 8 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Summit Tunnel fire

Hi, I note that after you read my copyvio response on the talk page, you tidied up my indenting but didn't add any text. Looking at the last sentence of my response, I reckon I was being a bit snippy: if I briefly put your nose out of joint, you have my apologies. Ecb (talk) 19:00, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

Sorry for not immediately adding a thank you and appreciation onto the Talk page; I was letting it simmer in my brain to see if there was anything else useful I could add. (And with living on a boat, my internet access is in bursts when I can find wifi!). Thank you reminding me—and also an explicit appreciation for immense work on the article, I thoroughly enjoyed reading it and went off exploring several other tunnel and underground-fire topics afterwards. I was particularly impressed with the effort put into getting hold of the raw pictures taken by the emergency services; something that definitely adds to the article! —Sladen (talk) 08:17, 21 May 2008 (UTC)
No worries, I'm just happy you didn't take it as a snub. You're right to lock on to the photos—they're the main reason I wrote the article in the first place, after reading the WYFA reports up at the Fire Service College in Moreton. If you have the patience to search around the web there may still be some copyrighted photos about: when I was writing the original text I found a classic picture of two firefighters next to the shaft 8 bunsen burner and a lot more aerial photos from Karran's report. Typically, I can't lay my hands on them now, alas. Cheers, Ecb (talk) 20:19, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Image:Freedom-Class_Comparison.jpg

Hi, sorry it took so long to get back, but I am sometimes rarely here. Since I have the original file, it would take a few moments to change. The idea of using red is great. After spending much time finding, collecting, and generating the final image, I guess I slacked off at the end with the graphics.Gary Joseph (talk) 03:53, 3 June 2008 (UTC)