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[edit] RfA

Hey there Risker, I've created a nom for you. I would suggest reading my essay How to pass an RfA. There are also two other people who are interested in being co-noms. Dihydrogen Monoxide mentioned his interest on Sandy's page and Sandy indicated an interest in being a co-nom for anybody who she suggested that was interested in running. I generally recommend no more than 3 noms--more than that seems to be too many. I also suggest not transcluding your nom until you are ready to watch your RfA for 2-4 hours after the nom. You need to be able to watch the RfA and answer questions/concerns as they arise. Those first few hours people expect the candidates to be available.Balloonman (talk) 07:22, 6 May 2008 (UTC)

One other thing, when you describe the areas you want to work in, make sure they are areas where you have experience. People don't like to see "I plan on working in CSD's" when there has been no activity there.Balloonman (talk) 14:40, 6 May 2008 (UTC)

Excellent (tentative) answers to the questions.Balloonman (talk) 17:47, 6 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Your RfA

Good luck on your RfA.Balloonman (talk) 22:18, 7 May 2008 (UTC)

Thanks! Told you it could be interesting... Risker (talk) 22:21, 7 May 2008 (UTC)

I remember you were very disruptive at the Essjay controversy article. QuackGuru 22:29, 7 May 2008 (UTC)

Oh hello, Quack. Long time no see, I'm surprised you still have my page on your watchlist. I hope you are well? I remember you too, and your userpage fork of Essjay controversy, long since deleted. How is the rewrite on Chiropractic going? Risker (talk) 22:42, 7 May 2008 (UTC)

I had a sandbox of chiropractic with the greatly expanded NPOV rewrite. However, since you think something that is out of mainspace is a fork I had it recently deleted. Happy? QuackGuru 20:08, 10 May 2008 (UTC)

QuackGuru, I remembered that you had been one of the people working on Chiropractic because I was looking at that article about a month ago for information purposes, saw there were some tags on it, and noticed your name as one of the editors working on a rewrite. I know that sometimes it's easier to do rewrites in user space. I did that with parts of the James Blunt article, and I know several feature article writers do that when they're completely revamping an existing article; if you were actively working on that article in your user space, I would not have made a big fuss. I guess the biggest challenge would be finding that NPOV voice, but if you're willing to accept input from other editors, then it's not a big deal at all.

I'm not out to revisit past disagreements with you or anyone else, which is why I made a conscious decision not to link to that old RFC where a whole lot of people were calling you by the first part of your nickname, or any of the ANI threads that were related to Essjay controversy. For me, it is water under the bridge and I hope that some day it can be the same for you. Contrary to what some people think, I'm really not here for the drahmah; my real life is plenty exciting enough. I wish you the best in your editing; if you want to ask the deleting admin to reinstate that page, I would have no objections. I only mentioned the Essjay fork because I know more people than usual are reading this page (what with the RfA and all), and they have the right to know we have a "history" between us, and might be encouraged to review our interactions and make their own decision about whether I was acting appropriately or not. It was not intended as a slight to you, and I am sorry if you perceived it that way. Risker (talk) 20:31, 10 May 2008 (UTC)

←Just wanted to apologise if the "oppose per" votes derail it. I waited until you were ahead 6-1 precisely so I wouldn't tip the balance but a couple of others now seem to have piled-on. (Although, if you thought James/Lauren Harries deserved deletion, your blood really will boil when my massively-expanded Hypnodog hits the mainspace!) — iridescent 23:05, 7 May 2008 (UTC)

Ah yes, the Harries article. I'd forgotten to watchlist the AfD there, and as it turns out the article was dramatically improved during the course of the AfD and I only realised it after the AfD had closed; I probably would have changed my vote there. On the other hand, the Hypnodog article is hilarious! Believe it or not, I even saw Hypnodog when I was in the UK... Best, Risker (talk) 23:10, 7 May 2008 (UTC)

Good luck on your RfA -- ₮inucherian ^(Talk) - 06:09, 8 May 2008 (UTC)

Well, thank you! Risker (talk) 06:21, 8 May 2008 (UTC)

I love the fact that this is called drama. dihydrogen monoxide (H₂O) 08:42, 8 May 2008 (UTC)

Res ipsa loquitur as we say around here. I was kind of expecting more questions, but I'm not going to complain. It is a very odd experience! Risker (talk) 12:10, 8 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] True enough, and I take my whiskey in shot glasses, lined up on the bar...

Not really, as I'm as straight an arrow as they come, but if I were a drinking man, the nonsense at your RfA (particularly Ryan) would drive me to drink. Do you have ANY idea what got the bee in his bonnet about you? Was it Giano? Bellwether ^B_C 00:09, 11 May 2008 (UTC)

Seriously, give it up Bellwether - I opposed - big deal, Risker is obviously going to pass and I'll happily welcome her into the admin community, and wish her the best of luck. She'll probably be fine. It's just one comment.... Ryan Postlethwaite 00:17, 11 May 2008 (UTC)

We're friends. She left a note at my talk. I replied here. I asked her why you might be so pissed off at her as to oppose her, since you won't tell me yourself. Either tell me yourself (not generally, specifically), or let her. Either way, I'll thank you to let ME decide both WHAT to "give up" and WHEN to "give it up." Thanks, Bellwether ^B_C 00:20, 11 May 2008 (UTC)

In answer to Bellwether - I can only assume it relates to Giano, as Ryan has referenced the Durova and IRC arbcom cases; however, he's entitled to his own opinion and I would not dream of telling him he's wrong. It seems to me that would be unnecessary drama, and to be honest I think it's time for people to lay off him for having a different opinion than many others - after all, I often have different opinions too. I think it's one of my good points, and I'm not about to criticise it in someone else. As to some of the other opposes, well...I see Guettarda's point, he has had a bad experience with his name being shortened so would naturally be sensitive to the pain it could cause other editors. DGG (and some of the others) I think have different ideas than I do when it comes to deletion, and that's fine by me; I don't plan on closing any AfDs for a good while. QuackGuru is just who he is, and I hold no ill will against him. Risker (talk) 00:29, 11 May 2008 (UTC)

Risker, that is a very diligent response. It'll certainly give me something to think about and I'll certainly look to reconsider - I think I might have seen a different side to you. Thanks, Ryan Postlethwaite 00:47, 11 May 2008 (UTC)

• Very diplomatic, Risker. Far more diplomatic than I would ever be able to manage, which is why I will never seek adminship. I couldn't deal with this kind of stuff. I never realized you were a "drama monger" (per Viridae's latest "contribution"). In fact, you'd always been a calming influence wherever I'd seen you. Of course, Viridae offered no diffs to prove his accusation, but I guess that's just par for the course at RfA now. Bellwether ^B_C 02:03, 11 May 2008 (UTC)

Do you think maybe he's upset because I won't join Wikipedia Review? Oh dear... Risker (talk) 02:04, 11 May 2008 (UTC)

Certainly possible. How long do you think it will be before the IRC channel gets hopping about your RfA? Bellwether ^B_C 02:15, 11 May 2008 (UTC)

I think it would be the better part of valour for me not to speculate in any way, shape or form about IRC. Risker (talk) 02:20, 11 May 2008 (UTC)

(ec)A few more days and Risker can join #wikipedia-en-admins. Can you believe it? dihydrogen monoxide (H₂O) 02:20, 11 May 2008 (UTC)

Or she could always join our lonely band of outcasts who refuse to join #wikipedia-en-admins... — iridescent 14:33, 11 May 2008 (UTC)

More effective is to join then never show up (my policy for the last three months). Seriously though, if Giano, Geogre and I all agree on your candidacy then it's probably safe to talk about IRC. Mackensen (talk) 14:43, 13 May 2008 (UTC)

Mackensen, you always have the most interesting perspective! I think it's probably best not to put any carts before any horses for the next 32 hours; I've seen all hell break loose before and if it does so this time it won't be of my doing. But should the opportunity arise, I suppose the worst thing that might happen is that I would send everyone to bed without pudding if they misbehaved. Risker (talk) 14:56, 13 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] My RfA

Hi Risker; I wanted to say thank you for supporting my request for adminship, which passed with 100 supports, 0 opposes and 1 neutral. I wanted to get round everybody individually, even though it's considered by some to be spam (which... I suppose it is! but anyway. :)). It means a lot to me that the community has placed its trust in my ability to use the extra buttons, and I only hope I can live up to its expectations. If you need anything, or notice something that bothers you, don't hesitate to let me know. Thanks again, PeterSymonds | talk 22:20, 13 May 2008 (UTC)

Good luck on your RfA, as if you need it! :D Don't expect too much, though; they've taken the delete button away from the main page! Ah well, there's always some encyclopedia work to do until they bring it back. :P Best, PeterSymonds | talk 22:20, 13 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] tally-ho!

I was getting there... just a few more hours... (ps. Tally-ho is a quaint English phrase used by the unspeakable when in full pursuit of the uneatable. It suddenly occurred to me that a US female might take exception to the latter part without understanding the context. pps. I don't know if you are American, but then it never occurred to me that you were female. ppps Or male. I just saw "editor". pppps. I will stop now.) LessHeard vanU (talk) 20:54, 14 May 2008 (UTC)

Well, here I am in my office, laughing my fool head off and praying everyone else in the corridor has already left for the day! Ummm...let's see. Canadian female who understands British English extraordinarily well, I spend half my holidays there. So you're safe, no worries about tally-ho's or Oscar Wilde, or any other weirdness. Indeed, I am trying very hard not to look at the clock (except for the very good reason that the cafeteria will be open in three minutes); crazy things have happened in RfA's before and I am not one to tempt fate! Risker (talk) 21:00, 14 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Yay!

Hurrah!LessHeard vanU (talk) 22:30, 14 May 2008 (UTC)

Woo!! Congratulations - it's over :) Welcome to the team! - Alison ^❤ 22:32, 14 May 2008 (UTC)

Congratulations Risker. Best of luck with the tools. Ryan Postlethwaite 22:34, 14 May 2008 (UTC)

Thanks folks! Wow...all these weird new buttons... Don't worry, I'm in no rush to try any of them out! Risker (talk) 22:37, 14 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] You are now an administrator

Congratulations, I have just closed your RfA as successful and made you an administrator. Take a look at the administrators' how-to guide and the administrators' reading list if you haven't read those already. Also, the practice exercises at the new admin school may be useful. If you have any questions, get in touch on my talk page. WjBscribe 22:33, 14 May 2008 (UTC)

Thank you very much, WJBscribe. Looks like I have plenty of homework to do. Risker (talk) 22:35, 14 May 2008 (UTC)

Congratulations!! Maxim_(talk) 22:37, 14 May 2008 (UTC)

Congrats!!! Although I had no doubt.Balloonman (talk) 01:00, 15 May 2008 (UTC)

Hey Congrats. You deserve it. :) --Sunsetsunrise (talk) 01:15, 15 May 2008 (UTC)

Congratulations. seresin ( ¡? ) 01:22, 15 May 2008 (UTC)

Thanks, everyone. Killerchihuahua, that is some really good advice. In celebration of this august day, I stopped at the bookstore on the way home and bought three new reference texts. Sad, isn't it?  :-) Risker (talk) 03:41, 15 May 2008 (UTC)

Just thought I'd add my congratulations on your RfA. I'm always happy to see someone with actual in-the-trenches experience get the tools, and I'm sure you'll do good work. Let me know if I can be of assistance with anything. MastCell ^Talk 17:47, 15 May 2008 (UTC)

Agreement wise, yes, re: above. Raymond Arritt (talk) 18:50, 15 May 2008 (UTC)

Congrats, friend. You dealt with the trolls quite well. Much better than I ever would have. Be well, Bellwether ^B_C 01:24, 16 May 2008 (UTC)

Congratulations #36 - and an especial thank you for putting your thanks in the correct place! :) Best of luck. Neıl ☎ 14:08, 16 May 2008 (UTC)

Congratulations from me too. Happy adminship, Risker. --PeaceNT (talk) 14:19, 16 May 2008 (UTC)

\o/ Congrats!! Lara❤Love 14:28, 16 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] RE: RFA Thanks

Hah!

I wasn't sure if you or anyone else got the joke. I'm glad to see you did.

Congratulations! SWik78 (talk • contribs) 14:12, 16 May 2008 (UTC)

Oh stop being so dramatic, Risker ;-)

On a serious note, it was my pleasure, congrats, and I'm sure you will do fine. — Dorvaq (talk) 14:34, 16 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Dloh Cierekim

is my real name in reverse. LOL. Cheers, Dlohcierekim 14:14, 16 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Your Rfa

What!? You didn't agree with me and I supported your Rfa!? Why didn't someone tell me that before I supported? I want a refund = ). Best wishes, --Cameron (t|p|c) 15:52, 16 May 2008 (UTC)

Congrats! May you wield the mop and the flamethrower with dignity and equanimity. ≈ jossi ≈ (talk) 15:57, 16 May 2008 (UTC)

Congratulations — sorry my initial oppose looked at one point like derailing it, and very pleased that it didn't. Anyone who can have that volume of loopiness directed at them without snapping is going to do just fine. — iridescent 16:13, 16 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Missed it!

I would have supported, but I missed this entirely! Congratulations. The opposes made interesting reading. Carcharoth (talk) 16:00, 16 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Regarding your RfA

The admins' T-shirt. Acalamari 16:12, 16 May 2008 (UTC)

Congratulations on your successful request for adminship. I am glad you passed, and you are welcome for the support. For information on using your new tools, see the school for new admins; you will find it very useful. Good luck! Acalamari 16:12, 16 May 2008 (UTC)

Congrats! I'm extremely pleased to see that a candidate who isn't afraid to state her opinion and where we know exactly what we are getting passed. May this be a sign of times changing! Have fun with the tools! EconomicsGuy (talk) 16:26, 16 May 2008 (UTC)

Crap. I forgot about that. I had planned drop my oppose. Sorry. Congrats. Guettarda (talk) 16:47, 16 May 2008 (UTC)

• Oh, plenty of other drama in the aftermath of that to go around. Glad you decided to give up your "personal policy of refusing to participate in that chicanery," though. People might have been more assured of your dedication to the project if you had promised to block preemptively when unsure of someone's good-intentions, rather than suggesting you would be "extremely careful" with the block button, or seeming to engage in excessive discourse. That is the kind of "no-nonsense" quality I personally look for in an admin. Amerique^dialectics 16:53, 16 May 2008 (UTC)

Congratulations! And thanks for your kind words about deletion sorting. the wub "?!" 23:23, 16 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] RfA,B,C,D

Don't worry about it, Risker. But next time, if there is a next time, I expect you to opine, jinx or not :) And gratz on the mop-and-flamethrower™!-- Avi (talk) 16:44, 16 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] RfA

All the Best!. --Bhadani (talk) 16:56, 16 May 2008 (UTC)

Congratulations! Let me know if I can be of assistance and good luck, Ruhrfisch _><>°^° 17:05, 16 May 2008 (UTC)

Wow, a personalized thank you note! Don't see that too often. Much obliged, and keep up the good work! --JayHenry (talk) 23:23, 16 May 2008 (UTC)

Congrats, glad to see you made it. Look forward to having you on board. Orderinchaos 08:26, 17 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Re the recent media revelation that most computer keyboards harbour more germs than toilet seats

Well, what do you expect if one tries to snort tea rather than using a cup (and saucer) while at the computer? LessHeard vanU (talk) 20:05, 16 May 2008 (UTC)

All I can say is that my computer keyboard has never harboured a toilet seat. Risker (talk) 01:50, 17 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Congratulations!

Congratulations! I have seen your contributions and I would like to work with you in future. Regards, Masterpiece2000 (talk) 03:56, 17 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Jack Dash

Too late for the AfD, but if you want a notable local trade unionist, try him - the article does not really do him justice, lamentably failing to mention his gold watch presented by Khrushchev. Or Derek Robinson ("Red Robbo"), or many others from the great days of British strikes, I'm sure. Johnbod (talk) 20:39, 8 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Your input requested regarding reliable sources

Any insights you might offer to this discussion would be helpful and appreciated.  : ) --MPerel 03:49, 11 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Hyphenation at Kannada literature

Risker, is tripadi three line verse or three-line verse? And six-line verse or six line verse for shatpadi ? I don't want to stir up a hornet's nest considering the discussion of hyphens there, so yes or no works :-) SandyGeorgia (Talk) 22:56, 17 May 2008 (UTC)

According to my McGraw Hill Handbook of English (Canadian edition - which covers both British and U.S. grammatical styles), these should be hyphenated ("two or more words modifying a substantive and used as a single adjective"). I've made the two required changes in the text. Risker (talk) 23:16, 17 May 2008 (UTC)

Thanks :-) SandyGeorgia (Talk) 23:46, 17 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Congrats and thanks

A belated congratulations to you for your successful RFA and Thanks for noticing my first GA! BTW, I do find your comments "so reasonable" and refreshing! I especially love to read your thoughts on divisive issues, I think I always agree with you. Maybe we should do lunch. :) - Epousesquecido (talk) 05:19, 18 May 2008 (UTC)

Well done Risker. It's good to see another FAC regular join the admin ranks. A bright spot in this age of increasing politicisation, bureaucracy and power plays. Blnguyen (bananabucket) 04:38, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

Well, if you guys have any recommendations for future candidates, I'm open and looking. Balloonman (talk) 05:31, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] RfA thanks!

		RfA: Many thanks
		Many thanks for your participation in my recent request for adminship. I am impressed by the amount of thought that goes into people's contribution to the RfA process, and humbled that so many have chosen to trust me with this new responsibility. I step into this new role cautiously, but will do my very best to live up to your kind words and expectations, and to further the project of the encyclopedia. Again, thank you. --jbmurray (talk • contribs) 05:41, 18 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] completely boring admin request

Hi Risker, I voted in your RFA ("for", if you must know :). I have a user-space page deletion that I can't put a template on because it ends in ".js". So I need to ask a specific admin. While I'm here, there are a couple of related deletions. Would you mind?:

• deleting User:Outriggr/testscript.js—I don't know how to put the "db" template on this
• deleting User talk:Outriggr/metadatatest.js (I want to move the redirect on top of it)
• deleting User:Outriggr/stuff
• deleting User:Outriggr/Amateur Withdrawal

Consider it practice? Thanks, –Outriggr § 07:54, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

Me! Me! I just did the last two. I left the first two for Risker to practice. (Though if Outriggr, if you'd prefer them gone now, just give the nod.) --jbmurray (talk • contribs) 08:11, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

Thanks jb! Nope, no rush. I thought of a warning for new deleters though: the second one above is a redirect, so I'm assuming it would be easy to accidentally delete the page redirected to instead of the redirect. –Outriggr § 08:27, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

ah, Outriggr, you lost your "stuff" ?? And you've withdrawn your amateur? What does that make you now? SandyGeorgia (Talk) 08:36, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] ping

To Commons! The game's afoot. ++Lar: t/c 21:51, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Thanks!

for this !vote, I try. I have a bias for museums and similar orgs and that one was a pretty easy improve. _{TravellingCari}^{the Busy Bee} 02:14, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

It's a nice little article now, I've done that once or twice too and it is such a great feeling to save something worthwhile. So are you like I was during your RfA? I found myself copy-editing like mad just to keep from being magnetically attracted to the page! Risker (talk) 02:17, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

I was earlier, now it's less so. I'm just anoyed because I use a good citation tool while editing from a PC and haven't found a suitable replacement for my new MacBookPro so I can't fix as quickly from home. I like fixing, sourcing, tweaking when I can. The first couple of days were nerve wracking but then had to be offline on Saturday and that broke the nervousness, somewhat. As I told Keeper when we discussed his nom of me, I was happy with whatever the outcome. Congrats on your recent passing _{TravellingCari}^{the Busy Bee} 02:32, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Thanks!

Thanks so much for your support in my RfA, which closed successfully this morning. Look forward to 'potty training' with you ;) _{TravellingCari}^{the Busy Bee} 19:41, 22 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] I'm making it official

I'm done. If you want to know why, just check my contribs. I worked my ass off on Primavera, and ... oh, never mind. Drop me an email and keep in touch. You're one of the good ones. Bellwether ^B_C 22:41, 23 May 2008 (UTC)

• Would you mind blocking my Bellwether account, so that AuburnPilot will quit bitching about my having both, even though one (Bellwether) is now retired, and the other (BTT) will be little-used after the GG RfA? Thanks, BobTheTomato (MrWhich) (talk) 18:45, 24 May 2008 (UTC)

• Umm...yes, I would mind; it's not in keeping with the blocking policy, unless you want me to block it as a sockpuppet (which I really would prefer not doing). Just don't edit with it at all; I'd suggest a redirect to the BobTheTomato account. Email me if you have questions or want to talk a bit. Risker (talk) 20:10, 24 May 2008 (UTC)

• Thanks for the idea. I'll do that. Honestly, though, I don't plan on editing even with this BTT account much, if at all. Best, BobTheTomato (MrWhich) (talk) 05:38, 25 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] You beat me

I was just going to message you and convey my hearty wishes. Your efforts have given fruit. We will go after Kannada literature, when Abecedare (the mediator) comes back (he seems to be on holiday) and nail that one too.Thanks again and again.Dineshkannambadi (talk) 18:31, 24 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Thanks...

for the kind words on my RFA and on my talkpage. I really appreciate them... it is nice to have hard work recognized as I am sure you know! But all a bit scary now too. Lots to get used to and I think I will go rather slow! --Slp1 (talk) 19:09, 24 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Reversion of edit to Goodbye My Lover

WeePoochy (talk · contribs) has been blocked for using the account for vandalism-only. I considered all of his edits to be in bad faith. Feel free to revert it back. - CobaltBlueTony™ _talk 15:48, 28 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Courtesy note, for your info

User talk:Pwntjuice.

FT2 ^{(Talk | email)} 17:38, 29 May 2008 (UTC)

Thanks. Not a shock at all. Given the odd circumstances of two socks of banned users editing the same two articles, I chose what appeared to be the best version of one of them and added some tags, and left Naked short selling to User:John Nevard to address as he was more familiar with the article. Please let me know if this is a problem. Risker (talk) 17:42, 29 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Failure

You failed in trying not to belittle my suggestion. Also add fail on not wanting to insult, if that was a want of yours as well. Actually, I'd be pretty pissed off at your little comment there if I didn't AGF. Luckily, even though I've been here for a meager two months, and some how you know where I've lurked apparently, I stand by my suggestion. Thanks again though, and sorry you weren't able to achieve your goal of not belittling me. Beam 02:57, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

Sorry to have failed, Beam. I know the dozens of people sending messages to DHMO via email, on IRC, by IM and on the half-dozen pages that seem to be devoted to this RfA all mean well. But all this noise is making it impossible for well-considered decision-making. I don't know where you've lurked, but your user contributions tell me where you've posted before (you can check mine, it is a routine action when discussing with people one hasn't worked with before, and we have all kinds of special tools available to look at edits made, most frequent article contributions, page views, etc). Pointing out that what appears to be your first exposure to RfA is to one that is completely atypical to the norm was intended to point out that perhaps your very strong advocacy of a certain course of action is coloured by not having been exposed to RfAs that have been very useful to the community and the candidate. I don't expect DHMO to ask me my opinion on what he should do here (although he is welcome to if he wishes), and I am certainly not going to publicly advocate for him to take one course of action over another. LaraLove, as one of his co-nominators, is probably one of the few people whose recommendation should be openly posted. The rest of us should all let him try and figure out what he wants to do without pressuring him or promising him anything. Give him some space. You've made your point; now let him think. Risker (talk) 03:27, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

I have actually lurked the RfA for a while, as I'm very interested in eventually nominating myself one day. And you really should work on commenting on content not the editor. Of course in an RfA, the point is to comment on the editor and his content, but I'm not nominated here. My suggestion was only in response to his addition on my talk page. I did not seek out to give him advice. I'll say that again: I did not go and give him the advice without him first bringing it up on my talk page. You state your goal was not to belittle me, but then you said that I was a noob and that I didn't know anything about RfA... that's pretty messed up!

Anyway, my suggestion is pretty good imo. If you read it, and don't think it's a great suggestion say so, don't belittle me instead. Beam 03:53, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

I agree with you and hope we can leave him alone now, I know I for one have given him a lot to contemplate. Beam 04:02, 3 June 2008 (UTC)