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Thanks for mentioning it - I've brought it up with him a couple of times, too. --User:AlbertHerring Io son l'orecchio e tu la bocca: parla! 18:34, 24 February 2008 (UTC)

fixing links to disambiguation page National Academy of Sciences

While I appreciate its intentions, Russbot seems to be making a typo.[1] Naional Academy of Sciences? I've fixed that particular one now but I thought I'd let you know in case it's done the same elsewhere. Qwfp (talk) 21:36, 27 February 2008 (UTC)

Ouch! Thanks for the alert - I've got a fix in progress. --Russ (talk) 22:17, 27 February 2008 (UTC)

Gary Newlove

Hi. I noticed you were involved in adding a "prod" template to said article. This is a note out of courtesy to inform you that I've listed this under afd here in case you are interested. Asian Parents, Western Upbringing (talk) 01:42, 28 February 2008 (UTC)

Chausey

While fixing disambiguation link (English) on Chausey, you also tagged the article as uncategorized. The article is in four categories. – Leo Laursen – ☏ ⌘ 13:44, 4 March 2008 (UTC)

Venkanna H. Naik

I'll try to fix it. Thanks for suggesting to improve the quality.

--Tangi-tamma (talk) 00:01, 5 March 2008 (UTC)

Nobots on articles

I'm sorry, but on that article Nobots is certainly necessary. I don't agree woth you that it cannot be used in article space, and I don't think your position is supported by the general consensus. Note that the template documentation says: "These templates should be used mainly on the "User" and "User talk" namespaces and should be used carefully in other spaces."

Concerning notifying the individual bots: unfortunately, the article has been editted inappropriately by a large number of bots. All interwiki bots are problematical for this article. The template really is the easiest and best solution here, unless you want me to protect the page? -- Eugène van der Pijll (talk) 13:24, 10 March 2008 (UTC)

Double redirects

You're right. I'll fix the bot, and the existing redirects. Eugène van der Pijll (talk) 12:10, 12 March 2008 (UTC)

AfD nomination of List of minor characters in Biker Mice from Mars

An editor has nominated List of minor characters in Biker Mice from Mars, an article on which you have worked or that you created, for deletion. We appreciate your contributions, but the nominator doesn't believe that the article satisfies Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion and has explained why in his/her nomination (see also "What Wikipedia is not").

Your opinions on whether the article meets inclusion criteria and what should be done with the article are welcome; please participate in the discussion by adding your comments at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of minor characters in Biker Mice from Mars and please be sure to sign your comments with four tildes (~~~~).

You may also edit the article during the discussion to improve it but should not remove the articles for deletion template from the top of the article; such removal will not end the deletion debate. Thank you. BJBot (talk) 14:59, 13 March 2008 (UTC)


Resides

Resides is an English word in the English dictionary... How can you nominate it for speedy deletion? lol... http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/resides —Preceding unsigned comment added by GLogic (talk • contribs) 10:57, 14 March 2008 (UTC)

Page moves to non-existant categories

I'm not sure what happened, but Category:Holy Roman Empresses got moved to Holy Roman empresses on February 26, but that category was deleted on February 23. Your bot moved the pages on March 14. (eg. Richardis)

A similar thing occured with Category:Holy Roman Emperors / Category:Holy Roman emperors. I don't know how to sort it all out. Any thoughts? --Bwpach (talk) 17:03, 15 March 2008 (UTC)

That's odd. It should be easy enough to move everything back, but the main thing is to remove the {{category redirect}}s from the correct titles. --Russ (talk) 18:33, 15 March 2008 (UTC)

RussBot

Hey Russ, I was wondering if you can explain a rather bizarre pattern presented by RussBot two days ago, particulary this edit [2], it seems like a glitch of some kind. - Caribbean~H.Q. 22:23, 15 March 2008 (UTC)

I can tell what happened (obviously, the bot saved revisions to the wrong title) but not why. I had a bug like this a couple of months ago, but I was sure I had fixed it. I'll have to do some digging to figure out why it is popping up again now. --Russ (talk) 10:11, 16 March 2008 (UTC)

Baro-Bhuyan

Historically, the Bhuyan Chieftains formed a supergroup which included the Baro Bhuyan subgroup that controlled parts of Assam. Maybe we should keep them as they are for the time being till someone gets time to update the texts. Thanks. Chaipau (talk) 19:26, 17 March 2008 (UTC)

That's fine, but the cut-and-paste move still needs to be corrected. --Russ (talk) 19:30, 17 March 2008 (UTC)

AfD nomination of Glossary of terms in The Urantia Book

An editor has nominated Glossary of terms in The Urantia Book, an article on which you have worked or that you created, for deletion. We appreciate your contributions, but the nominator doesn't believe that the article satisfies Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion and has explained why in his/her nomination (see also "What Wikipedia is not").

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You may also edit the article during the discussion to improve it but should not remove the articles for deletion template from the top of the article; such removal will not end the deletion debate. Thank you. BJBot (talk) 13:59, 19 March 2008 (UTC)

Your Prod

I just reverted your {{prod}} on Harshing My Mellow (disambiguation) per my comments on the talk page. I don't think it will ever be a full article, but if you look at google you'll see that the DAB page is now the second highest ranked page when the term is searched and it points to relevant information here in wikipedia and wiktionary. The DAB serves its purpose. --evrik (talk) 01:56, 21 March 2008 (UTC)

RussBot:Templates with red links/1‎ and company

Would you mind having RussBot create these pages in user space instead of article space? The prefix path you should probably be using is User:RussBot/Templates with red links. --Allen3 talk 23:42, 24 March 2008 (UTC)

  • I apologize for creating this unnecessary work for you due to my carelessness. --Russ (talk) 23:44, 24 March 2008 (UTC)
No problem. I have made similar mistakes myself. --Allen3 talk 23:50, 24 March 2008 (UTC)
I am not sure when I will be able to get to these. I have only just finished sorting out the last batch, and that has taken probably a good forty hours worth of work! bd2412 T 01:17, 25 March 2008 (UTC)

Bosch process)

Hi, would it be possible to rename the article "Bosch process)" to "Bosch process" that is to leave out the last parenthesis? Thanks. Twisp (talk) 11:46, 26 March 2008 (UTC)

An admin will have to do that. I've placed {{db-move}} on the page to request a move. --Russ (talk) 12:14, 26 March 2008 (UTC)

List of minor characters in Biker Mice from Mars

Another editor has added the {{prod}} template to the article List of minor characters in Biker Mice from Mars, suggesting that it be deleted according to the proposed deletion process. All contributions are appreciated, but the editor doesn't believe it satisfies Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion, and has explained why in the article (see also Wikipedia:What Wikipedia is not and Wikipedia:Notability). Please either work to improve the article if the topic is worthy of inclusion in Wikipedia or discuss the relevant issues at its talk page. If you remove the {{prod}} template, the article will not be deleted, but note that it may still be sent to Wikipedia:Articles for deletion, where it may be deleted if consensus to delete is reached. BJBot (talk) 00:00, 29 March 2008 (UTC)

Force Harvester

A proposed deletion template has been added to the article Force Harvester, suggesting that it be deleted according to the proposed deletion process. All contributions are appreciated, but this article may not satisfy Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion, and the deletion notice should explain why (see also "What Wikipedia is not" and Wikipedia's deletion policy). You may prevent the proposed deletion by removing the {{dated prod}} notice, but please explain why you disagree with the proposed deletion in your edit summary or on its talk page. Also, please consider improving the article to address the issues raised. Even though removing the deletion notice will prevent deletion through the proposed deletion process, the article may still be deleted if it matches any of the speedy deletion criteria or it can be sent to Articles for Deletion, where it may be deleted if consensus to delete is reached. If you agree with the deletion of the article, and you are the only person who has made substantial edits to the page, please add {{db-author}} to the top of Force Harvester. -Fastily (talk) 05:26, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

Thank's for your note

I'm soory, must not have understood. Cheers, Dlohcierekim 00:33, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

Woodstock

I've G6'd it. What do you want done with its talk page? --Dweller (talk) 13:03, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

List of naval commanders

Another editor has added the {{prod}} template to the article List of naval commanders, suggesting that it be deleted according to the proposed deletion process. All contributions are appreciated, but the editor doesn't believe it satisfies Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion, and has explained why in the article (see also Wikipedia:What Wikipedia is not and Wikipedia:Notability). Please either work to improve the article if the topic is worthy of inclusion in Wikipedia or discuss the relevant issues at its talk page. If you remove the {{prod}} template, the article will not be deleted, but note that it may still be sent to Wikipedia:Articles for deletion, where it may be deleted if consensus to delete is reached. BJBot (talk) 14:00, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

Disambigs

Hey Russ, I noticed that RussBot is working some of the disambigs links to "Puerto Rican" however the links on biographies should be redirecting to Puerto Rican people instead of Puerto Rico, just thought you should know, cheers. - Caribbean~H.Q. 20:43, 1 April 2008 (UTC)

  • That depends on the context, and sometimes is a judgment call. (To take a fairly easy case, a "Puerto Rican politician" should link to Puerto Rico, not to Puerto Rican people.) If the original author isn't clear, of course, there is a chance I could get it wrong. --Russ (talk) 19:57, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

City of Geelong

As the designer of the template and the writer of all but three of the articles within it (with some redlinked ones still to go - notably the ones in the Geelong and Ballarat areas as well as the far west of Victoria) I was well aware of the change I was making. Rather than have to go through and check and change things when I actually write the articles, I had designed it so that it would all fall into place when the articles were written. As it stands, I'll have to change it back again now once I write the article (City of Geelong should not be a disambig, but I have been too busy with other things to rectify that).

As for it being in Geelong, Victoria - it shouldn't be. Articles on urban areas should not be about local governance, nor vice versa. It's a mistake often made on Wikipedia and reduces its credibility quite considerably on these matters when you think of how many iterations of local government pass over a period of time, but how urban areas tend to go from pre-settlement to city in a fairly human-centred and social/industrial/economic/strategic manner that ignores the arbitrary boundaries we place on them. Such situations have earlier led to complications where there is boundary spillover - Newcastle and Townsville are two particular cases in point, where in each case a significant portion of its suburbs were in another LGA, and people were seriously trying to claim the second LGA as a "city" in urban/social terms (Townsville was fixed by means of a recent amalgamation). Orderinchaos 15:27, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

KLOV

what were you planning to place here instead of a redirect to the dab page?--Rtphokie (talk) 14:14, 9 April 2008 (UTC)

The dab page is going to be (actually, already has been) moved to the title KLOV. --Russ (talk) 17:16, 9 April 2008 (UTC)

revert to the current dab collaboration

Hi, Russ. Thank you for fixing links I stupidly moved to the done section a couple of days ago. Not sure what I was thinking, but it must have been dumb... -Gwguffey (talk) 03:39, 13 April 2008 (UTC)

Death Valley Radio

Death Valley Radio needs to be taken off. The stations that were on there are on High Desert/ Eastern Sierra Radio, or Victor Valley. --JoeCool950 (talk) 05:36, 14 April 2008 (UTC)

I have no idea what you are talking about. --Russ (talk) 09:53, 14 April 2008 (UTC)


Please see my talk page

You state that this is a consensual move, can you please show me a link to the consensus discussing this? Thank you for your time. Coccyx Bloccyx (talk) 17:55, 15 April 2008 (UTC)

My bad

I didn't realize that User:RussBot/DPL/Templates was a bot page. Be well, Pontiff Greg Bard (talk) 19:20, 15 April 2008 (UTC)

British

It looks like a bot is changing Briton|British to United Kingdom|British [3] That might be OK when you are talking about some things, but when you are talking about British people it makes more sense to link then to an article about the British people rather than an article about the country. I'll undo all the ones in articles I'm interested in but I think you should liik at undoing the rest -- SteveCrook (talk) 20:34, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

It appears that Briton was moved to British people in February and they didn't update all the references -- SteveCrook (talk) 20:37, 8 April 2008 (UTC)
Pretty much the same issue I discussed just above: it depends on the context. --Russ (talk) 20:37, 8 April 2008 (UTC)
In fact, the particular edit you linked to is a good example -- Pressburger was not ethnically British; he was an immigrant who became a UK citizen. --Russ (talk) 20:39, 8 April 2008 (UTC)
He took out British citizenship. He became British, by choice -- SteveCrook (talk) 00:01, 9 April 2008 (UTC)
I have done a lot of this, and my firm policy is that adjectives like Hungarian and British get disambiguated to the country name when used to describe a person, unless the context makes it clear that it is referring to their ethnicity (e.g., a person described as "of Hungarian descent" gets disambiguated to Hungarian people, but "Hungarian author" gets changed to "[[Hungary|Hungarian]] author". --Russ (talk) 20:42, 8 April 2008 (UTC)
Why is that your firm policy? Don't you think that a Hungarian author should be regarded as a person rather than as a country? Does the robot look at the context? I think the trouble with this one might be that a lot of them used to point to Briton when it was an article about British people. But then some genius moved that to British people, put a disambiguation page up for Briton and didn't change all the articles that used to correctly point to Briton meaning the people of Britain. By running this robot and changing them to United Kingdom we've lost the chance to correct them -- SteveCrook (talk)
It is my firm policy (which is not to say that it's an absolute rule) because my experience has taught me that when people talk about a German author, a French actress, or a British police officer, for example, they usually mean a person from that country, not a person whose ancestors came from that country. However, as I said above, it all depends on the context. Which is why I make those kinds of edits under manual control. (And I have observed that British people is a little bit different than some of the other articles; whereas Hungarian people and Germans are very explicitly about ethnic groups, the British people article is a bit more inclusive about what constitutes Britishness. But I still think Tony Blair was the [[United Kingdom|British]] prime minister, not the [[British people|British]] prime minister. --Russ (talk) 00:21, 9 April 2008 (UTC)
That's because the British Prime Minister is referring to a position which isn't itself a British person. But the British Prime Minister is a [[British people|British]] person :) Is there anywhere I can see which ones the robot changed on its last run so that I correct the ones that need to be corrected? -- SteveCrook (talk) 01:09, 9 April 2008 (UTC)
As for your general rule, if I was to talk about Hungarian scriptwriter Emeric Pressburger then that would be describing the person so should be [[Hungarian person|Hungarian]]. But if I was to say Emeric Pressburger is a Hungarian scriptwriter then the subject is the role, not the person, so it should be [[Hungary|Hungarian]] -- SteveCrook (talk) 01:14, 9 April 2008 (UTC)

I see your 'bot has made another pass through these corrections - and is still getting most of them wrong! If it's about a person it should very nearly always link to British people, not to United Kingdom which is a country and a political entity -- SteveCrook (talk) 09:45, 17 April 2008 (UTC)

Sorry, I don't agree that it's "wrong"; you just have a different opinion on the subject than I do. --Russ (talk) 09:54, 17 April 2008 (UTC)
We certainly do have a different opinion. But how can it not be wrong to link a person to a country when there's another entry for people from that country? While I was going through changing some of the ones you did in the most recent run I saw that some had already been corrected by other people, so it appears I'm not alone in my opinion. For instance, "Richard Addinsell (January 13, 1904 - November 14, 1977) was a British composer ...". Why link him to a geographic and political entity like United Kingdom when there's an entry about British people? -- SteveCrook (talk) 12:14, 17 April 2008 (UTC)
Nobody's stopping you from fixing the Briton links yourself. I'm sure your help would be appreciated. --Russ (talk) 12:22, 17 April 2008 (UTC)
If only the person that moved Briton to British people had done that. It's just that your changes make them harder to find -- SteveCrook (talk) 13:03, 17 April 2008 (UTC)

Your bot

made this change you may wish to explore why. Carlossuarez46 (talk) 01:16, 25 April 2008 (UTC)

Thanks. It's safe to say that isn't right. --Russ (talk) 01:30, 25 April 2008 (UTC)

RussBot subpages

Oh... just trying to help... does it break something? Sardanaphalus (talk) 18:28, 13 April 2008 (UTC)

...Well, if/when in future I set AWB to update some links (usually templates) and I don't notice these include links on RussBot pages, my apologies in advance. Looks like RussBot does some very useful maintenance, so I don't want to disrupt it. Thanks for providing it. Sardanaphalus (talk) 14:32, 14 April 2008 (UTC)

  • ...Sorry, but I haven't seen the large red banner you describe. Do you know if there's a way to stop AWB from editing these pages? In any case, I'd like to understand why it's a problem, as the edits made keep the pages in touch with templates whose names have changed. Sardanaphalus (talk) 10:15, 1 May 2008 (UTC)
Just thought: I may be able to set AWB to exclude any pages with "User:RussBot" in their names. Sardanaphalus (talk) 10:17, 1 May 2008 (UTC)

Tweaks to Wikipedia:Templates with red links reports.

Greetings, friend. I wish to impose on you a request to split out more sub-reports for the Wikipedia:Templates with red links project. Since you have generated a report based on a more recent date dump, this is what I would like to see, if you have the time.

  1. The specific areas are for templates containing one of the following terms or sets of terms:
    1. Indiana (for some reason, there are a lot of Indiana-related templates)
    2. Basketball and/or NBA
    3. Road(s) and/or Highway(s)
    4. Class (these will almost always be for classes of battleships)
    5. Airline(s)
    6. Protected areas
    7. Olympic(s)
  2. Generate the lists of templates with red links including those terms from the most recent data dump.
  3. Delete templates with red links including those terms from the existing lists.

Ideally, I would like you to teach me how to do this at some point, so I can stop bothering you about these things (I will have some time available in June for that purpose). Even more ideally, I would like to set up some kind of automatic sorting, where many templates that share a common term in the name of the template would automatically be sorted to a separate page when the database dump is parsed.

Please let me know if you are able to do this. Cheers! bd2412 T 16:10, 25 April 2008 (UTC)

  • I'll see what I can do, but it most likely won't happen until the next dump. Do you have Pywikipediabot? --Russ (talk) 17:18, 25 April 2008 (UTC)
    • I don't even know what that is (but I'll find out!) :-) Next dump = even better (more up to date). bd2412 T 17:55, 25 April 2008 (UTC)
      • m:Pywikipediabot will tell you what it is. That's what I use for all my bot activities. --Russ (talk) 19:03, 25 April 2008 (UTC)
      • Hey, I wanted to let you know I'm leaving on a trip overseas tomorrow, so I'll be gone for about a month (doubtful that I'll be able to do much editing) - but I'll be on top of these things when I get back! Cheers! bd2412 T 18:26, 2 May 2008 (UTC)
        • OK, have a nice trip. In that case, I won't rush on this.... --Russ (talk) 20:10, 2 May 2008 (UTC)