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[edit] Archive

[edit] TV pgs

I 'm astonished at the fact that MANY wiki pages exist that shouldn't , while others that shold exist remain non-existant. Here are some that should be created.

Many are American TV writers/novelists/playwrights/producers/directors/media personalities who've been NOTABLE in their chosen profession for more than 10 years & have recieved numerous acclaim in the form of award nominations & wins: Dave vonKleist, The Power Hour, Genesis Communications Network, David Shaughnessy (ex-Executive Producer of Y&R), David Goldschmid (writer on General Hospital), Tracey Thomson (writer on General Hospital), David Hiltbrand, Burton Armus (Emmy nominated writer of NYPD Blue), Neil Landau (writer with many credits to his name), David Schulner, Mathilde Ferro, BigMuscle, dudesnude, hegelian

Robert Mason Pollock, Joan Binder Weiss, Sibyl Gardner, Conal O'Brien, Angela Tessinari, Mary O'Leary, Cynthia M. Jervey, Doris Silverton, Jeanne Davis Glynn, Tim Citrano, Jack Urbont, The Bahler Brothers, David Rupel, Shelly Moore, Mark Teschner (award winning Casting Director of General Hospitall for more than a decade!), Nancy Ford (co-wrote the 1st ep of Ryan's Hope)

Cornelius Crane, Ginger Redmon, Royal Miller, recast, Bruce S. Barry, Lynda Myles, Christine R. Magarian, Josh Reims, Patricia Wenig, Eric L. Roberts (protege of William J. Bel), Nancy Bradley Wiard, Jill W. Newton (ex-casting director of Y&R), Esther G. Hudak, Robert E. Costello, David Robert Kanter, Miriam Trogdon

Josh Reims, Dana Baratta, Patty Lin, Diane Messina Stanley, Michael Berns, Alfonso H. Moreno, Valerie Woods, Peter Frisch, Tony Morina, Tina Andrews, Norma Safford Vela, Doris Quinlan (ex-EP of ABC's AMC), Robert Cenedella, Lyle B. Hill, N. Gail Lawrence, Judy Blye Wilson, James A. Baffico, Michael Eilbaum, Sofia Landon Geier, Richard J. Allen, Johnson-Liff Associates, Robert Soderberg

Dorothy Ann Purser, Elizabeth R. Woodman, Mary K. Wells, Joan D'Inecco (casting director of AMC for about 20 years), John Saffron, Bud Kloss, Jacqueline Babbin, Bill Wolf, Ralph Ellis, Maria Wagner (winner-Best Directing-ATWT-2007 Daytime Emmy), Elizabeth Harrower (wirter), Joseph Behar, Judith Pinsker, John C. Zak, Marlene Clark Poulter, Charlotte Savitz, Joyce Corrington, Steven M. Wasserman

Maria Arena, Story Consultant, David Bennett Carren, Steve Kent (ex-TV producer-Capitol; TV exec for Sony Pictures), Sherman Alexie, Randall Harris, Ana Castillo, Quinn Eli, Robyn Hatcher, Ginger Smith, Robert Scinto, Tracey Bryggman, Samuel D. Ratcliffe, Patti DiZenzo, Caroline Franz, John Kuntz, Paul Lammers, Robert Calhoun, John Boruff, Ron Weaver

William Kelley (wrote the 1st ep of the 82-87 TV series Capitol), Anne M. Schoettle, Corday Productions Inc., Gary Donatelli, Leslie Kwartin, Larry Carpenter, Susan-Sojourna Collier, Grant A. Johnson, Valerie Ahern, Deborah Joy Levine (writer of Any Day Now & Strong Medicine), Randall Caldwell, Stephen Wyman (Soon to be ex-EP of DOOL), Jeff Koz

Julia Jordan, Nina Tassler, John PiRoman, William R. Keates, Michelle Patrick, Nancy Williams Watt, Jill Lorie Hurst, Anna Fricke, Maralyn Thoma (ex-Head Writer of ABC's GH), James Fryman, David Cherrill (ex-Head Writer of Search For Tomorrow), Fred Bartholomew, Jean Arley, George Lehane, Randy J. Robbins, Betty Rothenberg, Marlena Laird

Maxine Levinson (ex EP of OLTL), Jim Sayegh, Nancy Curlee, Hal Corley, Mike Denney (longtime director of Y&R; left in May 2007), Tina McElroy Ansa, Nina Shengold, Marina Alburger, Jenelle Lindsay, Andrea Lee (author of Interested Women), Frank South (writer of Melrose Place, John Fisher (Worked on Y&R for more than a decade. He's the Co-ordinating Producer on the highest rated American daytime drama), Jeanne Glynn, Ellis Marcus, Cindy Jerney Prial

Cathy Coote, Faces of The Heart, William Dale Smith, Alan Pultz, David Smilow, Annamarie Kostura (VP of NBC Daytime; ex-casting director of OLTL), Dave Grusin, David Pressman, Larry Starkey, Jack Turley, A.J. Russell, Marvin Paige, Dwight D. Smith, Peter Brinckerhoff, Carol Saraceno, Bob Bardo

Charles Rosin, Gene Palumbo, John Chambers (longtime writer on The Bold And The Beautiful; left in May 07), Mark St. Germain, Jennifer Crusie, Mary Ryan, Ken Corday, Mark Alton Brown, Anthony Morina (American TV producer/director), Jill Ackles (TV director for more than a decade), Noel Maxam, Sally McDonald, Dean LaMont, Danielle Faraldo, Matthew Diamond (directed a 07 ep of Desperate Housewives; directs about 55 eps of General Hospital each year since 2005), Michael Montgomery, Marnie Saitta

Lisa Leiberman, Selig J. Seligman, Phil Sogard, Robert J. Shaw, Larry Auerbach, S. Michael Schnessel, Mel Brez, Lanie Bertram, Margaret DePriest, Craig McManus, William Ludel (Longtime TV director-at least 20 years), Owen Renfroe, Ron Cates (music composer/TV director on many projects incl. General Hospital, Chris Van Etten, Frances Myers, Leslie Nipkow, Cameron Stracher, Aida Croal, Story Coordinator

Janet Iacobuzio (ex-Head Writer of General Hospital), Casey Childs, Steven Williford, Conson Studios Inc., Rudy Vejar, Judi Ann Mason, Brian Mertes, Betty Rea, Robert Short, Michael Lindsay-Hogg (directed 1st ep of ABC's Loving), Paul Avila Mayer, Marc Beruti, Shannon Bradley, Kevin Kielty, Writer's Assistant, Matthew C. Jacobs

Once again, way too many pages on wiki need to be deleted, while way too many need to be created a.s.a.p. All you have to do is an Internet search on Yahoo on each of the aforementioned names in quotations. (Eg. "William Ludel"). I hope that Wiki can be a much better source of info for all who seek knowledge. Thanks!

[edit] Smile

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[edit] Neil Landau

[edit] Neil Landau

Neil Landau is an American screenwriter, playwright, producer, and director. He has held various positions such as script consultant (Monarch Cove), breakdown writer (The Young & The Restless), and script writer (Don't Tell Mom The Babysitter's Dead). Landau has taught creative writing for the UCLA Extension Writers’ Program. He currently serves as a Visiting Assistant Professor in the MFA Screenwriting Program at UCLA’s School of Film and Television and is a Faculty Advisor for the MFA in Creative Writing Program at Goddard College.

Landau is developing new dramatic programs for Fox TV Studios, Warner Bros. TV, and Avenue Pictures. His TV pilot, WitnessX, was purchased by CBS Corporation. He works as a writer and Executive Consultant under contract for Sony Pictures, Sony Pictures TelevisionInternational, and Freemantle Media.

Television Credits

Directing Credit

  • The Fred Astaire Complex

Theatrical Credits

  • Johnny On The Spot

Awards & Nominations

  • The Fred Astaire Complex: Grand Prize by the California Media Association
  • Etcetera and Intentions: Best Play-L.A. Valley College One-Act Play Festival Bank of America Award for Drama Excellence
  • UCLA: Outstanding Instructor of the Year 1994

External Links/Sources

[edit] Edit Summaries

Thanks for assuming that I wasn't going to make a comment about your edit summaries (or lack thereof). I didn't have time to respond your comment until now. And, no I'm not wrong, but you aren't necessarily either. Are you required to provide an edit summary? No, I don't believe you are. It's just a good practice. Are edit summaries required for minor edits? Obviously, if they aren't required at all, then they aren't for these either. However, once again, it would be nicer for other editors, if you did.

As recommended by Wikipedia, "Always fill in the summary field. This is considered an important guideline. Even a short summary is better than no summary. An edit summary is even more important if you delete any text; otherwise, people may question your motives for the edit." You can do this by setting your preferences (under Editing) to "Prompt me when entering a blank edit summary". This way you won't have as many red marks when you don't provide an edit summary.

I think it's great that you are familiar with Wikipedia and it's policies, but reminders never hurt anyone. Jauerback (talk) 00:33, 20 December 2007 (UTC)

Flyer, weren't we told on minor edits not to put anything? Didn't you get talked to about your "tiny edits" edit summary being told that it was unnecessary for minor edits that were indeed minor edits. I remember reading that because I learned from you that it is unnecessary to put edit summaries for minor edits like apostrophes and dashes and spacing. That's what the minor edit box is for. While your original comments, Jauerback, may have been in good faith, this is nothing but a defensive and antagonistic comment because there was no need for it. Comments about needing to place an edit summary are for newbies that don't understand, not people who have been around that are working their butts off to clean up messy articles. I'm sorry, Flyer, but this type of antagonistic behaviour just irks me. When people remove things from their talk page, it should be over and done with. By removing it you acknowledge you've seen it. A second post on the subject only serves negative purposes, IMO. Have a good holiday!! KellyAna (talk) 01:04, 20 December 2007 (UTC)
I'm sorry that I've irked you. I wasn't planning on leaving a comment at all until I got home and saw the comments he left on my page. I then saw his edit summary of what he felt about me on his talk page, so I thought I should respond. As I've already stated above edit summaries aren't necessary, but they are generally good practice. If you read what Wikipedia says about edit summaries and still disagree with me, then that's fine. Do as you will. It's not a policy, just a recommendation -- nothing worth getting into a tif about. Merry Christmas and happy editing. Jauerback (talk) 01:20, 20 December 2007 (UTC)
And I told you that I always provide edit summaries, except for when they are not necessary. I practice "good practice" on Wikipedia. I still don't know what you mean about my not leaving an edit summary on the Babe Carey article...considering that I did, more than once. The points at which I didn't, it was because they were not needed. I should not even put an edit summary when taking a word from can't to cannot. That's what the minor box is for. However, I still gave an edit summary for some of those edits. Yes, I'm irked. But thank you for explaining your side. Flyer22 (talk) 05:12, 20 December 2007 (UTC)
And as I stated on your talk page, I apologize for having come off as rude, if I did. I know that you were trying to be helpful. Flyer22 (talk) 05:36, 20 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Physical attractiveness

Hi, if you would care to offer on opinion on a talk page issue concerning Physical attractiveness, it would be helpful.--Loodog (talk) 04:55, 20 December 2007 (UTC)

Hey, Loodog, I saw the new issue going on there from my watchlist, although I didn't drop by to read that matter on the talk page...yet. I'll weigh in about it soon. Flyer22 (talk) 05:36, 20 December 2007 (UTC)
Yeah, if you can drop back in, it would be appreciated. I've gotten the impression this user is only continuing to reply to attempt to annoy me.--Loodog (talk) 23:37, 21 December 2007 (UTC)
LOL. Will do. I planned to earlier, but had a few other things to take care of. Flyer22 (talk) 00:18, 22 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] RfA

Thanks, and it's okay, things turned out alright. :) I'm taking things slowly right now (especially because of all the off-wiki distractions during the holiday season), but I'm looking forward to trying out the new tools! Have a good holiday season, --Elonka 11:02, 20 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Happy holidays

 Paul  730 is wishing you a Merry Christmas! This greeting (and season) promotes WikiLove and hopefully this one has made your day a little better. Spread the WikiLove by wishing another user a Merry Christmas, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past or a good friend. Don't overdo it on the fudge!

Spread the Holiday cheer by adding {{subst:User:Flaminglawyer/MerryChristmas!}} to their talk page with a friendly message.

Ah, thanks, Paul. Happy holidays to you as well. Flyer22 (talk) 01:06, 21 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Devil May Cry

You're a bit touchy about having your work edited, I think, if the removal of a comma prompts you to defend yourself against an imagined charge of vandalism. Yes, I am protective of FA pages within the scope of the DMC Task Force since we want to keep them at featured status. The period is fine though, and thank you for adding it there. Happy holidays! --Boradis (talk) 20:30, 24 December 2007 (UTC)

Touchy? Well, it may be the stress I'm under outside of Wikipedia. However, I didn't really feel you were calling me a vandal. I understand your being protective of Featured Articles. Who wouldn't be? I understand being protective of an article that isn't a Featured Article. Anyway, Happy Holidays to you as well. Flyer22 (talk) 20:46, 24 December 2007 (UTC)
It's no problem really. After all, my initial edit summary was a bit abrupt too, and for that I apologize. It sounds like we both know how this Internet thing goes, and I'm glad we've taken the civil route. I truly hope you continue to contribute to the DMC pages. They'll get flooded with contributions as we get closer to the release of the next game in February, and I for one am determined to help the DMC4 page reach Featured status as well. So the more editors with talent and experience that we can get into the mix the better. If you're interested, please check out the DMC Task Force and consider signing up. Happy holidays again, and thanks! -- Boradis (talk) 09:30, 26 December 2007 (UTC)
Thanks for the offer, Boradis. I'll definitely consider it. I'll be even busier with work outside of Wikipedia soon, but I may still sign up as part of the DMC Task Force. Thanks again. Flyer22 (talk) 19:18, 26 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] in re: Bisexual erasure

While assuming nothing but good faith on the part of the editor who merged the articles, due to the history of as well as lively and vigorous discussion about this article, I have restored the article and substituted instead two merger discussion boxes, one on Bisexual erasure and one on Biphobia.

I look forward to discussing and working on this and other subjects with you in the future. Respectfully CyntWorkStuff (talk) 02:03, 31 December 2007 (UTC)

Wise to have restored this article. I will drop in and give further thoughts about this topic soon. Flyer22 (talk) 02:48, 31 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Titanic

Hello, Flyer. Well, the expression "was converted" I wrote in the IP's talk page was actually a link to the diff that shows who did the move: User:Secret, who stated in the edit summary: "acually, redirect, the whole article fails multiple guidelines, 99% of the article is WP:OR, and the very obvious type, already a quick mention on the movie article". You could access this information through the history tab on the redirect's page. Good luck on restoring the information. And if you succeed, please tell me so I can restore the links I removed. Cheers, Waldir talk 01:54, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

Done. Flyer22 (talk) 02:06, 2 January 2008 (UTC)
Unfortunately, my edit couldn't be undone for technical reasons. Someone probably edited some of the text in the character's names after I removed the links. I don't have time to restore the links now, I'll try do that later. In case you want to do it yourself, here's the diff showing exactly what I removed. Best regards, Waldir talk 02:19, 2 January 2008 (UTC)
No problem. I may restore them myself. I'm kind of lazy right now, though. Flyer22 (talk) 02:22, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Blind revert

After checking your links, I see that you're right about the tense. However, you shouldn't have just reverted. Read over my changes. It's not just tense, I'd argue that there are a lot of improvements. I removed ellipses, sentence fragments, over used parenthesis, and, to be honest, some terrible writing for an encyclopedia article. If I may quote:

Kendall is currently in love with the three men in her life, her husband Zachary "Zach" Slater and her two sons, Spike Lavery and Ian Slater.

Give me a break. That's great for a fan page, but not an encyclopedia. I'm going to revert to my version, and then go through and change the tense back to present. AniMate 09:59, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

No probelm. I stated that if there were any improvements that you made to that article instead of what you just did to its tense, then that it would be good to add those improvements back.
I don't appreciate you calling it a "Blind revert"...because, yes, I noticed your other edits there, but there was no way that I was going to keep your version and then correct the tense myself, as that would take annoying time to do. It's no fun to correct the tense of an entire plot, as I have done to plenty of articles now. Anyway, I appreciate what you fixed up in the Kendall Hart Slater article. See you around. Flyer22 (talk) 18:29, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Vanity project

According to this [1] some believe the Soap project is nothing more than a vanity project and shouldn't exist. Is it just me or is that rude? IrishLass (talk) 14:43, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

Rude? It's absurd. I see he cleared that discussion from his talk page...or else I would have stated something. I knew about the Ethan and Theresa article being up for deletion, however. I really don't feel that there was anything we could have done to make that article fit to be on Wikipedia. Flyer22 (talk) 18:41, 2 January 2008 (UTC)
I don't know that we could have done anything either, but I would have liked to try. There have been enough articles on them. Right now the Sheridan and Luis is up for "merge" but I don't really care enough to fight for that one. I agree that it is absurd to call the soaps project a vanity project. We work just as hard and our shows last substantially longer and have more characters. It came off really rude the way he said it too. Oh well, life goes on. Just another day at Wikipedia. IrishLass (talk) 18:50, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Heterosexuality

Flyer22 - I've asked you some questions at Talk:Heterosexuality regarding your last edit there. Thanks. --G2bambino (talk) 22:51, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

Okay. Flyer22 (talk) 22:54, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Thanks

I would like to say thank you on your yes vote on the picture Human.jpg on the discussion page of http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boy I was and am very grateful Patrice58 (talk) 03:35, 6 January 2008 (UTC)

No problem. A good picture is a good picture. Flyer22 (talk) 03:45, 6 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Agreements and Civility

Flyer, I just wanted to tell you that though we don't see entirely eye-to-eye, I am largely appreciative and thankful for the many areas where we have been able to agree (and at least seek to understand each others' views) and the extremely good civility you've shown in the otherwise heated discussions. That sort of coolness helps others like me who can get a little... uppity... sometimes. Thank you.
I would like to invite your comments AND EDITING to this page. Enlarging and Referencing. Making it better, thorough, nd excrucioatingly NPOV (either way... "Just the facts, ma'am.").
Any assistance is appreciated. VigilancePrime VigilancePrime (talk) 07:42, 10 January 2008 (UTC)
I appreciate the compliments, VigilancePrime. And thanks for the invitation as well. I might drop by there. Flyer22 (talk) 22:19, 10 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Friendly Notice

Hello, I would appreciate comment from you and from others on this topic Wikipedia talk:No personal attacks#Nutshell is Nuts! if you would please take a look, I would much appreciate it.

Thanks for reading this message.

--Kiyarrllston 03:36, 12 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] 90210 DVD Releases

Could you fix the table for B.H. 90210 DVD releases? Someone added an extra column on the right and I can't get rid of it. Thanks! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Robinepowell (talk • contribs) 06:48, 14 January 2008 (UTC)

It should be fixed now, since I reverted to your version before it was recently changed. Flyer22 (talk) 07:02, 14 January 2008 (UTC)

Thanks! I tried to do it myself but it wouldn't work. I've also re-added the last reference I added before you reverted back to my last contribution a week ago.

I don't what this other user was trying to do but they added an extra column and move the reference to the release date I added for Season 4 from Region 1 to Region 4. Weird. Robinepowell (talk) 08:28, 14 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Greenlee

I fail to see how that reference well documents Greenlee as a villianess. It looks like an ad for pay for play book. I don't find sources that have to be paid for in the spirit of Wikipedia. Besides, documenting how Greenlee is a villainess is like documenting how Gilligan is a klutz. You may as well reference everything the writers have ever made them do to illustrate your point.

Sincerely,

        KIRA

Wlmg (talk) 18:41, 16 January 2008 (UTC)

That reference details one of her villainess moments. Some editors here at Wikipedia I am certain would ask for a reference proving that Greenlee is a top television villainess... Well, that's why that reference was added. It details one of her big villainous moments. Some editors here do act as though everything needs to be referenced. I could always trade that reference out for the one that is about the same thing in the Leo du Pres and Greenlee Smythe article, but shows more, if you're worried about people paying to read more of Greenlee's actions in Bianca Montgomery "coming out" as gay. But I must point out that plenty of references in articles are to books that a person would have to pay to read. But anyway, I'll see you around. Sincerely,

Flyer22 (talk) 18:54, 16 January 2008 (UTC)

Greenlee isn't really a villainess. She's what used to be what was once comfortably referred to as a b*tch. There are pure evil soap opera villainesses such as Helena Cassidine who engage in murder and brainwashing, and have no redeeming qualities whatsoever. Greenlee is a character with mixed traits. The fact that she outted Bianca for being gay makes her a mean bully, at least at that moment. I would say she is not a villain at all, but rather a femme fatale.

Wlmg (talk) 19:26, 16 January 2008 (UTC)

There are several types of villains and villainesses. You don't have to be pure evil to be one. Adam Chandler and David Hayward are good examples. The soap opera press and that book, for one, cite Greenlee as a villainess. A lot of people would even say that most femme fatales are villainesses. Greenlee has done more than out Bianca, of course. The way she outed and treated Bianca for being gay is just one of her awful actions of the past. But, really, it was Donald Steele that outed Bianca (well, to the public anyway). It's great talking with you about what makes a villain or a villainess. Today is kind of boring. And this conversation is at least interesting. Flyer22 (talk) 19:35, 16 January 2008 (UTC)

Ok this is the definition from dictionary.com of a villain for the dramatic context: "Meaning "character in a novel, play, etc. whose evil motives or actions help drive the plot". I would have to say that Greenlee is a villainess. Most femme fatales and minxes are probably villainesses too, and if they're not then they're probably not that interesting or doing a good enough job. It might be a good idea for an article on soap opera villainesses, making note of the different types, and sub-types. Imho in general there are two main types: the psychos and sociopaths in one camp, and the vamps, brats, and femme fatales in the other. There is some crossover no doubt, i.e, Janet Green, but she needed radical plastic surgery to become a babe and in her mind's eye she was still an ugmo; that only exacerbated her psychoness. Wlmg (talk) 02:30, 17 January 2008 (UTC)

All good points, Wlmg. I'm not sure I have the time to create an article on soap opera villainesses. If you were to, however, I'd surely assist you in editing it. It definitely might serve to be a good article. If anything, it would be an interesting article. Flyer22 (talk) 02:38, 17 January 2008 (UTC)

There's already a villains/villainesses in List of soap opera villains, but a quick peak shows it to be less than exhaustive. Fyi Greenlee is not on that list, not yet at least. Wlmg (talk) 02:56, 17 January 2008 (UTC)

Whoa. That list needs some work. And I thought that the List of supercouples article was bad before I got to it, expanded and sourced it. But this List of soap opera villains is really bad (at the moment anyway). I'm surprised that it hasn't been deleted already. One of us, or somebody, needs to fix it up...before it does get deleted. And maybe it should be turned into more of an article instead of a list. Or both can exist, with the creation of an article on soap opera villains, of course. Flyer22 (talk) 03:09, 17 January 2008 (UTC)

I added about a dozen villains off the top my head, including Greenlee. However, I only know about ABC soaps, and Passions so all my additions are there. It's a start. Wlmg (talk) 04:44, 17 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Your copyedit request

On 19 August 2007, you made a request to the League of Copyeditors for a copyedit on Bianca Montgomery and Maggie Stone. Because of a heavy backlog and a shortage of copyeditors, we have been unable to act on your request in a timely manner, for which we aplogize. Since your request, this article has been subject to significant editing and may no longer be a good candidate for copyediting by the League. If you still wish the League to copyedit this article, please review this article against our new criteria and follow the instructions on the Requests page. This will include your request in our new system, where it should receive more prompt attention. Finetooth (talk) 20:02, 18 January 2008 (UTC)


[edit] My Edit

I've been away for a long time, hence my current late reply.

Now, this is way overboard and not to mention rude to the extreme! What buisness is it of the other editor or any editor for that matter in regards to what I wish to speak to you on your talk page? Is he/she your keeper or something? Why did you allow his/her edits through and negated mine? Are you telling I do not even have the right to revert MY OWN edits that I made?! In case you failed to notice, I did not touch your reply or anything else anyone had written. The only edits I made were to things I solely written. I believe I also stated that it is a consious and personal desicion that I've made after delibration on my part and that it isn't SPAM, VANDALISM, or FUN!!

I'd really apreciate it if you reinstate my edits, my full reasons and tell him/her not to EVER TOUCH MY EDITS AGAIN!!! Sakura rin24 (talk) 13:52, 21 January 2008 (UTC)

Sakura rin24, that editor is not my keeper. No one is. But she is a good friend I've made on Wikipedia and naturally found your removing that comment odd, as did I. The conversation had long been over, and suddenly you removed a comment that you made that was only thanking me for explaining and being polite to you. I visited your talk page about it to get an answer about why you removed it. It seemed that the reason you removed it is that you no longer felt that way anymore. Maybe you never really had. But, honestly, I'm perplexed about that. I only relayed to you the truth. So, yes, it is perplexing that you would remove a comment where you're thanking me for that. It came off as rude, as though you don't believe I was being helpful...or you that didn't/don't believe that I was doing such with the best of intentions.
If you're not going to tell me why you removed that edit, that's fine, as I stated on your talk page. But, no, I will not reprimand my friend for looking out for me or making an edit that she acted in good faith on...or revert that edit she made to your comment (the reinstating of it). Flyer22 (talk) 18:58, 21 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] TomKat

Wonderful expansion. Keep up the great work! нмŵוτнτ 17:31, 21 January 2008 (UTC)

No problem. And I will. Flyer22 (talk) 18:58, 21 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Race Vandel

Thank you for the heads up. Yeah I recognize that user name. I don't know what the user's problem is. I saw he consistently messes with another article as well.Mcelite (talk) 04:00, 22 January 2008 (UTC)mcelite

[edit] More Jesse and Angie

I added information about Angie's time on Loving and The City back into the main storyline synopsis. It's a little duplicative of the portion that you moved to the top of the page. That section should probably be pared down, but I'll leave that to you. ABCxyz (talk) 02:25, 23 January 2008 (UTC)

Okay. Flyer22 (talk) 02:26, 23 January 2008 (UTC)

Still thinking about the info boxes. ABCxyz (talk) 22:40, 22 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Krystal

I added her name in there because all the other names represent current marries, and I felt like it was inconsistent. Also, Abc's website lists her as just Krystal Martin, so I thought putting Carey Martin was a good compromise. If you think about it, what does J.R. stand for? It should be JR, but I let that go.

As I pointed out on your talk page, Wikipedia goes by common names. It doesn't matter that Krystal Carey is listed as Krystal Martin on the ABC website. That's not her common name. Also, other marries such as Kendall Hart Slater and Annie Lavery are listed as such because those are their common names. I pointed out the Kendall part to you on your talk page. The J.R. thing has been brought up before by an editor. But the matter of the fact is...it's spelled J.R. or JR in various places, and the caption on television screens spells it as J.R. There are plenty of people who go by initials that don't stand for anything. J.R. is one of those people (well, characters anyway). You can spell it either way. But since his article here on Wikipedia goes by J.R. Chandler and most instances on Wikipedia spell it as J.R. Chandler, he should be listed as J.R. Chandler in the Current cast members section of the All My Children article. Flyer22 (talk) 05:23, 24 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Bree Hodge

Please go see my response on the Talk:Bree Van de Kamp page. Thank you in advance. Canjth (talk) 02:44, 26 January 2008 (UTC)

Yes, I was already going to. I saw it pop up on my watchlist, but I had/have other matters to take care of first. I'll be there soon. Flyer22 (talk) 02:55, 26 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] TomKat & supercouples

Please see (and respond) to User talk:KellyAna#TomKat either here or on my talk page. Thanks! нмŵוτнτ 23:29, 27 January 2008 (UTC)

Flyer - can you keep this here rather than on my page. All I did was revert an edit based on the guidelines you set up, I really prefer not to be involved with any form of dispute at this point. Thanks for understanding. KellyAna (talk) 23:58, 27 January 2008 (UTC)
That's what I'm asking about, because I know one editor can't create a WP:GUIDELINE on his or her own, and I don't see any discussion regarding this whatsoever. нмŵוτнτ 00:10, 28 January 2008 (UTC)
I've archived the conversation as I just won't be a part of it after certain comments were made. hmwith will have to retype his issue with the removal of "TomKat's" portmanteau from the article. KellyAna (talk) 00:57, 28 January 2008 (UTC)
Hey, guys. I feel that the TomKat article doesn't need to be linked in the List of supercouples article. TomKat is already mentioned in this couple's individual articles and thus people will find the TomKat article by clicking on one of their names or by clicking on the Supercouple article. Talk with you both later. Flyer22 (talk) 04:49, 28 January 2008 (UTC)
Haha, yeah, it's cool. Well, I think it couple only help the supercouple article, but I take your word for it if you think linking to the couple would negatively affect it, since I've worked with you on similar articles. Cheers! нмŵוτнτ 06:59, 28 January 2008 (UTC)
Well, the TomKat article is already linked in the Supercouple article when addressing Tom Cruise and Katie Holmes. And, no, I don't think that linking the TomKat article in the List of supercouples article would negatively affect it. It's just that I don't feel that it's needed in that article. Anyway, I'll see you on the editing side. Flyer22 (talk) 07:11, 28 January 2008 (UTC)
Well, I never checked the supercouple article. Good point. It may not add enough that it's worth adding to that article if it's in the main supercouple one. Thanks for your discussion, нмŵוτнτ 07:29, 28 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] New list/link for you

Entertainment Weekly put this one out [2]. It's actually very comprehensive and uses the word "Supercouple." IrishLass (talk) 17:40, 29 January 2008 (UTC)

Awesome, thanks for the link. I'm definitely soon to use it, most likely for all of the couples mentioned in that link. Flyer22 (talk) 18:52, 29 January 2008 (UTC)
Glad to help. I found it refreshing because it broached the older couples not just the new and "hot" couples. The balance was better than I've seen in a long time. BTW, you need to visit the talk page of the Supercouples article. IrishLass (talk) 19:08, 29 January 2008 (UTC)
Yeah, we could use your opinion. I was thinking maybe a split would be in order. Let me know what you think on the talk page. нмŵוτнτ 19:23, 29 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Article that needs sources badly

Since you're the queen of BLP sourcing, I direct you to an article that needs sourcing HORRIBLY. I'd imagine it'd be easy to find since she's been public a lot this past year. I bring you...Jaslene. Mike H. Fierce! 23:21, 29 January 2008 (UTC)

LOL, Mike. Will do. Flyer22 (talk) 23:22, 29 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Elisabeth Hasselbeck

U need to let other contribute Flyer. 70.108.122.10 (talk) 02:55, 2 February 2008 (UTC)

Uh...I don't keep anyone from contributing to an article...unless we're talking vandals and disruptive editors. All I do to that article is keep it cleaned up and revert vandalism. If you aren't a vandal or a disruptive editor, then go ahead and contribute. Just make sure you cite your sources (valid sources) ...or it (any addition you add) will be reverted or removed. Flyer22 (talk) 03:09, 2 February 2008 (UTC)

O ok. :) 70.108.122.10 (talk) 01:27, 3 February 2008 (UTC)

Just to let you know, I caught 70.108.92.126 vandalizing Elisabeth Hasselbeck again. He/she reverted the article back some 14 edits, including at least one of yours. You might wish to reapply your edits. Thanks. --Art Smart (talk) 18:25, 22 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Comment

Re: "My mother still wishes that I would use my mind for a different career path, something other than Hollywood, but that is where my heart (career-wise, of course) is."

Go, for it. I wish you the best. I always wanted to be a writer. But, seeking financial stability, I am in law school. I still want to pursue my dream and hope I one day might. At 24, I also feel life is passing by. Nike had it right, "just do it". --Charleenmerced Talk 21:37, 5 February 2008 (UTC)

Thanks. The writers strike is putting a dent in my wanting to leave. But I still do and will. Thanks again for the support. I wish you all the best as well. Flyer22 (talk) 22:18, 5 February 2008 (UTC)
The writer's strike is putting a dent of my TV life. I already gave up on two shows. Bionic Woman and Back to you. --Charleenmerced Talk 22:21, 5 February 2008 (UTC)
Laughing out loud. Flyer22 (talk) 22:30, 5 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Interview with CariDee

I interviewed CariDee this week and I wanted to let you know about it. You can read the interview here. Mike H. Fierce! 07:03, 7 February 2008 (UTC)

You didn't respond about my interview! :< Mike H. Fierce! 09:35, 14 February 2008 (UTC)
LOL! I could say the same thing about when I asked you a question regarding Jesse and Angie.
Anyway, I hadn't gotten around to reading this interview at first, but felt that once I did, you would know (without me telling you, that is) that I enjoyed this interview. It was great and I like when you drop treats like this by my talk page.
I'm glad she said this: "I think the only negative thing about it is that fans seem to think that if you're not on the cover of all these magazines, that you're not getting work. Not everything is covered equally. It's a different age now that a lot of celebrities are on the covers of magazines, and people go 'Oh, well, this show hasn't produced a Top Model!' We've been doing a lot of work in a lot of different things and I think people forget that."
Preach it, girl. Flyer22 (talk) 11:22, 14 February 2008 (UTC)
Oh, I didn't even remember reading a question about them. Let me go back to my page. Mike H. Fierce! 11:07, 18 February 2008 (UTC)
Oh, honey, Jesse died when I was like...3. And I was raised on NBC shows. If it wasn't Days or AW I don't know anything about its history back then, although I did try to rewrite some stuff from other sources for their article. Mike H. Fierce! 11:08, 18 February 2008 (UTC)
Yes, as you know, I was too young as well to know the true history of Jesse and Angie. I had to do research to upgrade their article. But I was still off-put by these writers just bringing Jesse "back from the dead" like that. I mean, the audience saw the guy clearly die and later in ghost form. I suppose they want us to believe someone was dreaming all of those ghostly visits of his, but even that does not make sense...for various reasons. I hate how they pratically "undid" a memorable, gut-wrenching scene in television history -- Jesse's death. It's part of what made them so iconic. But oh well. Flyer22 (talk) 01:38, 19 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Sam McCall

The picture for Sam McCall was deleted. --Charleenmerced Talk 19:48, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Happy Valentine's Day!

User:Wilhelmina Will has wished you a happy Valentine's day, and good luck in love and friendship!
User:Wilhelmina Will has wished you a happy Valentine's day, and good luck in love and friendship!

A short/sweet little message, which I hope has made your day better! Happy Valentine's Day!!! Wilhelmina Will (talk) 02:33, 14 February 2008 (UTC)

Ah, thanks. It has made my day better. Happy Valentine's Day to you, too. I really wasn't expecting anyone, on the net or in my life off of the net, to say that... So thank you again. Flyer22 (talk) 06:05, 14 February 2008 (UTC)
Glad I could cheer you up! Wilhelmina Will (talk) 07:05, 14 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] well done F22

Updated DYK query On 14 February 2008, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Luke Snyder and Noah Mayer , which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

--Victuallers (talk) 20:49, 14 February 2008 (UTC)

Thank you. Flyer22 (talk) 21:58, 14 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Blend

Well, I always thought it was portmanteau, as well. Then, the articles were fixed, and... ahh! We're all wrong! I'm not sure if we should say what people consider it or what it technically is. It's a touch debate. I can't decide which I think should be used. нмŵוτнτ 20:42, 15 February 2008 (UTC)

Well, we're not actually wrong, considering that it's just in linguistics that it's called blends. But oh well. As I stated in my edit summary to you, I'm more for calling it portmanteau. Good points for calling it that were brought up by an editor on that talk page. There's portmanteau and then there's portmanteau (linguistics). Flyer22 (talk) 20:53, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
Good points. I'll change it back to portmanteau. нмŵוτнτ 22:12, 15 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Ashley Davies

Hi there! Sorry about messing up your edits, I thought (assumed *facepalm*) someone had just looked up Ashley Davies somewhere and put down her orientation without knowing anything about it. I checked the edit history but there wasn't anything on her recently (that I could see--knowing me I probably missed it) When I labeled her as a bisexual, I was thinking of her pre-Spencer and rebound relationships with Aidan. But you're totally right, "Lesbian-identified, possible bisexual" makes the most sense. Again, really sorry about messing with your edits! —Preceding unsigned comment added by TigressofIndia (talk • contribs) 01:01, 16 February 2008 (UTC)

It's fine. No need to apologize. You were just trying to improve what you felt was off, and I really appreciate that. I mean, I at first listed her as lesbian-identified on that list due to the fact that she often identifies as a lesbian, but is also thought of as a bisexual by some viewers...and she rejects sexual identity labels at the same time. Anyway, her article and what I stated on her talk page explains it all, as I mentioned to you before. I'll see you around. Flyer22 (talk) 01:52, 16 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Rollback

You have been granted with rollback, for more information, please refer to this page. Yamamoto Ichiro 会話 12:50, 16 February 2008 (UTC)

It's definitely an awesome tool. Whoever granted me this, thanks a lot. Flyer22 (talk) 13:19, 16 February 2008 (UTC)
Something to use it on; Godcthulha (talk · contribs) it seems that Creepy Crawler is back with another sock. Since it's all about Category:Soap opera actors, I'm lobbing this one your way. Pairadox (talk) 13:32, 16 February 2008 (UTC)
Hmm, I'm not sure I ever heard of that user before now. He sure picked the perfect former name (Creepy Crawler), now didn't he?. I just researched his history. Right now, as you touched on, he's adding actors from soap operas to Category:Soap opera actors. That doesn't seem too bad, at least not that action of his. Flyer22 (talk) 14:05, 16 February 2008 (UTC)
Except that most of them are already in the subcats American soap opera actors or English soap opera actors. I'm just surprised they didn't create the cat Soap Opera Actors (maybe they've finally gotten over their love for capital letters) and populate it. Pairadox (talk) 14:12, 16 February 2008 (UTC)
LOL. And, yes, I noticed the redundancy, since these actors are already in either the American soap opera actors or English soap opera actors category. Flyer22 (talk) 14:49, 16 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Luke and Noah

I think this article could be relevant to Luke and Noah's Wikipedia article. --Silvestris (talk) 19:27, 17 February 2008 (UTC)

Sure could be, Silvetris. Rather...will be. Thanks for the link. Flyer22 (talk) 19:35, 17 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Supercouple list

Wish you had told me earlier it was up for AfD. I added a "strong keep" but it's not looking good at this point. That editor that had fits about the main article and soap character's not being "supercouples" added a strong delete. KellyAna (talk) 19:38, 17 February 2008 (UTC)

Ah, KellyAna, that editor didn't say that soap opera couples are not supercouples. It's just that that editor was unfamiliar with soap opera supercouples.
As for this list, I thought you had known that it was up for deletion, since it's on your watchlist. I mean, isn't it on your watchlist? Anyway, I did put it in the Articles nominated for deletion section at the soap opera project. Flyer22 (talk) 19:57, 17 February 2008 (UTC)
It is but we were in Daytona for the Friday and Saturday stuff and I've been sick on top of it. I just didn't notice the nomination. Sad, I know. I can pick out the vandalism from a distance but missed the AfD. On a side note, did you see IrishLass quit her job and won't be around for a while? I'll do what I can when I'm home but that means we're down one helping hand. KellyAna (talk) 20:09, 17 February 2008 (UTC)
No, I hadn't heard that about IrishLass. That sucks. Flyer22 (talk) 20:48, 17 February 2008 (UTC)
Okay, I saw your last revert and I'm here to say STAY POSITIVE. I can be the queen of negative but the full moon has me thinking positive and you sound so "out of fight" for the Supercouple list. I just sent Radiantbutterfly a message through our message board asking her to support the list because I believe in it. I don't see that it's cut and dry it's going to go. Many articles have separate lists. We just have to keep positive. Anything with that many comments should be kept. Obviously there's passion for the subject content. Heck, the Alina Foley AfD didn't get a quarter of that much reaction. Just keep the faith. KellyAna (talk) 02:41, 20 February 2008 (UTC)
Well, I'm only "out of fight" because I'm so very tired of "battling" people with an axe to grind for anything popular culture on Wikipedia. I am especially tired, of course, of explaining to some people that supercouples are something that are not made by a critic or writer's opinion, but rather by the public. Sure, some couples who aren't truly supercouples may be called a supercouple by a critic or a writer, but that isn't the case for the majority, and it isn't the majority factor for most of the couples listed as supercouples on that list. I mean, if you google the terms Supercouple and Celebrity, the same couples come up most of the times, showcasing that not every celebrity couple is called or considered a supercouple. Only a select portion are.
Anyway, it'll be a lot easier sticking to a list of fictional supercouples, and that's what I'm focused on now. I also see the point brought up in that deletion debate about not mixing lists of fictional and non-fictional supercouples, so it's not so much my being "out of fight"...but more that I have a new focus — List of fictional supercouples. All of these couples listed as supercouples will be cited as supercouples, with valid citations, of course. I will keep the Notable wave section in the List of fictional supercouples article that I am going to create, because it's clear that they are not listed as supercouples. I'll talk with you later. Flyer22 (talk) 03:17, 20 February 2008 (UTC)

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[edit] List of supercouples

There are questions about original research, the validity of some of the sources, the definition of notable wave, and what exactly disputed by rivalry means on the entry for the list of supercouples. Your input would be appreciated. AniMate 01:25, 28 February 2008 (UTC)

  • Yes. I'll be there in a moment. I haven't been there because I have been very busy with work, and I don't have access to a computer right now. I'm instead communicating with you at this very moment via a Playstation III. It's difficult to type using a controller, but I'll be there soon. Arrgh, excuse me for not signing my user name.

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[edit] eBay?

I'm sorry but the description of an item on eBay doesn't qualify as a reliable source. If you actually have the magazine and can point out page numbers, then yes, it would be fine. We can't just trust what some random unidentified poster on eBay claims as the truth. I'm not going to be a jerk, and I'm not going to remove it, but you should really come up with something concrete beyond a sellers description. AniMate 10:03, 4 March 2008 (UTC)

It's valid. I saw the cover. And just to make something clear, a seller can't truly lie about the cover and get away with it as easily as you make it sound. The cover isn't manufactured, and, yes, I went for that source, because it was validated by a person I know who has that magazine. This person pointed me to that source online. Now let me do "my job" and maybe you try and source something as well. Flyer22 (talk) 17:54, 4 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Jack Johnson

I'm concerned that someone apparently used my IP number on Jack Johnson's page, prompting your warning. Can you figure out how this could happen? I've never heard of Jack Johnson before your warning.

Thank you. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.204.30.143 (talk) 00:32, 14 March 2008 (UTC)

You obviously have an IP address where many different people from many different locations will also be able to use it. Flyer22 (talk) 01:02, 14 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Supercouple list

I added a link to [3] where MSNBC calls Will and Jada a supercouple. You might want to fix it up all pretty and stuff though. KellyAna (talk) 23:35, 18 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Drama, drama, drama

I see I missed a lot while I was out of work and unable to come here. Not sure how often I'll be able to check in but thought I'd say HI while I was here today. I notice the Supercouple list is in chaos. What happened there or do I really want to know? Leave me a message if I can be of any help. IrishLass (talk) 17:18, 19 March 2008 (UTC)

Just read it. And I don't even want to talk about it, as I am quite fed up with the conversations there. Like they aren't even listening, and as if that list is any worse than having a list of anything else we have lists for on Wikipedia. It's only two Wikipedians there (besides me), adamant on acting as though that list is the worst act against mankind. Ugh. It's a good thing that KellyAna left out of the discussions going on there, because with her temper, it wouldn't have been pretty. And, KellyAna, I mentioned "your temper" because you have mentioned that.
Anwyay, I've got stuff to hurry up and do on Wikipedia, totally unrelated to that list. Good to see you back, by the way. I'll see you around. Flyer22 (talk) 22:31, 19 March 2008 (UTC)
It's cool. I'm a bitch and I know it. Elonka's working with me to calm me down. With that list walking away is just best for me. KellyAna (talk) 22:33, 19 March 2008 (UTC)
Well, I still hope that you help me watch it and contribute to it, even though you may not take part in the discussions there with AniMate and Paul. The reference you recently added to that list, for instance, shows that it's quite easy to still contribute to that article while ignoring its talk page.
Once I archive that discussion still going on there, I'll mostly be through with talking on that talk page, except for when new discussions are brougt up there. But as that list is now, it's well-sourced and there aren't a load of couples listed on it. It's fine. I mean, jeez. But, really, it's taking away from my time on other things. I need to hurry up and create the Florencia Lozano article (an actress), create an article on a popular character of hers, Téa Delgado, tweak a few articles so that I'll feel completely confidant nominating them for Good Article or Featured Article status, fix up other articles such as Zoe (All My Children) and Annie Lavery, etc., create the Lena Kundera and Bianca Montgomery article, the Serial rape article (which I may title Serial rapist), and a few other things, and I need to get started on all of that right now (though I've already completed the Florencia Lozano article in my Word document). Redundant discussions about that list only take away from the time that could be put to articles that really need improvement and ones that should be or rather need to be created. Flyer22 (talk) 22:54, 19 March 2008 (UTC)
That is a long and painful conversation. They act like you shot the pope on Good Friday. Really, why are they so hell bent on removing everything without a reference? And why that list? There's how many millions of facts that aren't sourced but they are nit picking that to death. You must be going crazy. I'm sorry I wasn't here to help. I really wish I could have been. I assume they removed most of what is no longer there? I know you wouldn't have. I'll do what I can to keep an eye on it. Not sure how I feel about adding my two cents. Seems as though they will gang up on anyone that tries to intervene. I'll see what sources I can find and see where things go from there. Take care. IrishLass (talk) 18:05, 20 March 2008 (UTC)
Well, I actually agree with what has been done to that list. I just hate that now that it only consists of supercouples and not merely popular couples who were/are not supercouples, and it has mostly good sources, that they are still acting as though it is the worst list ever on Wikipedia. It makes no sense. As I stated there, I can see the list being criticized for having a celebrity supercouple section, but not if it's just a list of fictional supercouples. I mean, we do have a List of fictional anti-heroes, and determining what or who is an anti-hero is a lot more subjective than titling a couple as a supercouple. Anyway, I've got work to do concerning the articles I stated that I will be working on a lot in a hurry. Talk with you later. Flyer22 (talk) 01:00, 21 March 2008 (UTC)

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[edit] Y&R interview!

I figured you may like to see this. Mike H. Fierce! 23:01, 26 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Thanks!

I don't know if you got my email or not but since you didn't reply I'll repeat most of what I said here. Thank you so much for your praise on the article I created. Also thank you for all the ways you spruced it up. I still have a lot more to learn but you really taught me a few things on there and on the articles you made or fixed up. Rocksey (talk) 20:27, 27 March 2008 (UTC)

Yeah, I haven't read my recent e-mails because I've been without computer access (been using PlayStation 3 instead, though I can read them with PlayStation 3). Can't really reply in full at the moment. And, hey, I had to state what I did about your work here; good is good. You impressed me, seeing as you are a newbie here. I'll see you around. Flyer22 (talk) 07:52, 28 March 2008 (UTC)

I noticed on the supercouple list that a few of the couples had a reference from a magazine that was directed to the wikipedia page of that mag. Is that the way you're supposed to site those kind of references or is it better to use the scans from the articles? Rocksey (talk) 23:15, 15 April 2008 (UTC)

Do you mean how the references show which magazine (or other various source) it's from at the end of the references? I mean, all of those references, if you click on the title (or look if you can't) rather than clicking on the magazine it's from, are from sources apart from Wikipedia. If you mean, should Wikipedia itself be a reference for sources we use on Wikpedia, then typically no. But that's not what showing what magazine it came from at the end is doing And, yes, scans from articles are fine, as you already know. Flyer22 (talk) 18:38, 16 April 2008 (UTC)
I mean the reference six on the supercouple list. It just gives the name and date of the magazine. Is that ok to do as long as you have the date the magazine came out? Rocksey (talk) 21:34, 16 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Checking in

This is just a brief note to make sure everything is okay with you. I'm moving really slowly on the List of supercouples, which is hard, but I'm not going to do anything drastic without your okay. Really, this isn't even a request for you to contribute anything, but just a note hoping things are getting resolved on your end of the internet. Not having a computer (and thus having to use a game platform) can be really frustrating, so I just hope things find you well. I understand if there are articles higher on your list of priorities that require less complexities than a protracted and complex talk page discussion, so don't expend any extraordinary efforts on the page until you're able to do so with ease. I just hope you're doing okay, and promise not to do anything drastic until you can comeback at full speed.

AniMate has smiled at you! Smiles promote WikiLove and hopefully this one has made your day better. Spread the WikiLove by smiling at someone else, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past or a good friend. Cheers, and happy editing!
Smile at others by adding {{subst:Smile}} to their talk page with a friendly message.

AniMate 00:26, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Wikipedia:Suspected sock puppets/User:KellyAna(2nd),User:Irishlass0128(2nd)

I know that you've worked extensively with both KellyAna and Irishlass0128 in the past. It looks as if the two accounts were controlled by the same person. I think it would be helpful if you commented there. AniMate 21:46, 7 April 2008 (UTC)

Whoa. What??? I mean, at first I had suspected, but IrishLass has quite a different personality from KellyAna. And why would KellyAna say that IrishLass cannot do that deletion request if they're the same person? You caught me at a bad time, AniMate. I'm not sure that I can comment on that right now. I'll try, but if I don't show up there soon, it's because I'm busy off Wikipedia. Flyer22 (talk) 21:52, 7 April 2008 (UTC)
Having good cop/bad cop accounts is not an uncommon tactic used by puppet masters. Right now, we know that they are editing from the same area, joined at the same time, and are never online at the same time. AniMate 21:56, 7 April 2008 (UTC)
Yeah, I know. I've explained further below. Flyer22 (talk) 20:53, 9 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Conclusions

KellyAna has been blocked indefinitely, and IrishLass0128 has been blocked for two weeks for running an abusive sockpuppet. I know you worked with them extensively in the past, so the landscape of most soap opera related articles is going to be changing somewhat. IrishLass0128 has the right to come back, but from what KellyAna wrote it seems unlikely. Several reasons were given, none of which addressed any of the allegations against them. Anyway, I removed the maintenance banner from the List of supercouples as you've stated it's not an important article for you and IrishLass0128 likely won't be coming back. AniMate 04:46, 9 April 2008 (UTC)

Damn it (pardon my language)! I just logged on to a computer to go to that case and state something. I thought that I would have more time to speak, considerng that other sockpuppet cases have lasted longer than that. I wanted to say some things against KellyAna. Yes, against! I'm angry and very disappointed that she abused Wikipedia this way. What convinced me that she was at least Antigone28 is the harshness of Antigone's tone, the exact way Antigone talked to me when I was a young newbie on Wikipedia (well, I'm still young) and he, who is actually a she, was a newbie who didn't know much about Wikipedia's rules, as I was trying to inform her on them, was too similar to how KellyAna talks when she gets upset (or rather infuriated). Similar phrases such as "You've brought me to tears" were uttered by both of them. I don't see it as a coincidence due to how they were said in those situations. Antigone28 was one of the worst encounters I've ever had on Wikipedia. I was a newbie who felt like an administrator here due to all of the editors I had running to me for my help and my calming down and trying to settle disputes between those various users (just check my first archive). Even with all of the hatred Antigone spewed, I had "forgotten" that user. I left that experience thinking that a user left Wikipedia angry when that user could have been helped to become an integral part of this community. Turns out that that user had returned to Wikipedia all this time as CelticGreen and then became known as KellyAna. As for IrishLass, I feel that it's possible that they could have been two different people at one point. I mean, IrishLass stood up for my addition of the Emergence of gay and lesbian supercouples section in the Supercouple article (just check the first archive there). But, KellyAna, who had plenty of time to say something about it while that was going on, didn't. I honestly figured that she had a problem with homosexuality too much to state anything on that matter, considering that she would speak up for almost anything that I did here. What sealed the deal for me was when she recently said something to TAnthony about being able to say bad things about his sexual orientation. I was like, "Oh, so that explains her reluctance to support the gay and lesbian section when that was going on."
Hmm, the fact that "they" use the same abbreviations or unique styling for words and meanings in their edit summaries didn't/doesn't mean much to me. I mean, I sometimes use the expression "Restore" when reverting vandalism or putting an article back to the state I feel that it's best at...and I thought that I was the only one to use that expression (whether that sounds naive or not), but TAnthony sometimes uses it as well. As Wikipedians, we sometimes adopt each other's style of editing somewhat or style of phrasing, edit summaries included. That said, while I feel that IrishLass and KellyAna could have been two different people at some points, they were clearly the same person the majority of the time. The TIME evidence pretty much convinced me of that, as well as the fact that IrishLass didn't show up in the sockpuppet case to speak at all.
So this second sockpuppet case against them all started because I asked "IrishLass" to delete the Daniel Romalotti and Lily Winters article (an article that I'm about to go strip of that ludicrous supercouple statement right now)? Whoa. Then good. I felt something eery when I made that request, and I suppose it was this.

I want to state something about this and Wikipedia deception on my user page, but I don't have the time right now. I will, however, stop by everyone's talk page who participated in this second sockpuppet case against KellyAna and IrishLass and link them to this statement of mine. Thank you for informing me of this, AniMate. You are a well-respected editor in my eyes, and I have come to appreciate your stern tendencies. I wish Elonka had informed me of this herself considering that she did some research on this which connected Antigone28 to KellyAna. I know that I was/am "out of action" at the moment, but I still want to be informed of cases like this. Thank you for that, AniMate.

And, KellyAna, if you feel that I've turned against you...as you're reading this (which, most likely you do feel that way)...no, I haven't turned against you...

I just don't tolerate this kind of deception. Ever heard of Essjay?. Flyer22 (talk) 20:18, 9 April 2008 (UTC)

Hi, and thanks for the statement. If it turns out we need to open another such case in the future, this information will be useful. As for why I didn't inform you directly, I figured you were probably already watching the related talkpages and would have heard about it that way if you were active. My apologies if you felt left out of the loop. I'm also very sorry to hear about your early WP:BITE experience. But for what it's worth, I always thought you were an amazing new editor, so I'm glad you stuck around!  :) --Elonka 20:50, 9 April 2008 (UTC)
Flyer22 - I've read your comments and thank you for commenting on the situation. I'm sorry you didn't get the chance to post a comment on the case. Thanks DJS --DJS24 21:18, 9 April 2008 (UTC)
BTW, we may be re-opening that CheckUser case soon. Set a watch at Wikipedia:Requests for checkuser/Case/KellyAna. You may also wish to post your statement on the talkpage there, so it'll be easy to access later if we need it. --Elonka 23:56, 9 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] This hurts like hell

I also wanted to advise you all to read my Archive 2 (that's actually at the time I felt as though I was an administrator here). And if you haven't already, to read over all of my and Antigone's interactions with each other. I cannot believe that I was so blind, but having read over all of that again, I must again state that Antigone28 is KellyAna. Her personality (its anger aspect) got a little better, but it's still her. I was the first mentor KellyAna had, just check my archives. She clearly learned as Antigone, even while bitching me out, and then learned more afterwards, suddenly respecting me greatly. I grew very close to KellyAna and "IrishLass". They were the closest thing to family that I had on Wikipedia...and it hurts like hell to lose them. KellyAna, I miss you already. I don't hold any grudges against you as Antigone. What also convinced me that KellyAna and "IrishLass" are often, if not all the time, one in the same is that they never talk to each other. This has all hurt like hell. Flyer22 (talk) 02:14, 10 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Elonka, thanks

And, Elonka, thanks for all of your help on this matter. You already know that I am extremely grateful to you for being my Wikipedian mentor early on. I understand why you felt that I may have known about this second sockpuppet case against KellyAna and "IrishLass" due to my watchlist once I would check in. But I'm taking this time to clarify that I took a break from looking at my watchlist due to being drained of witnessing all of the vandalism it shows. Though it was difficult to not peak in on it. Lately, I haven't looked at it more so due to the fact of vandalism and my not being able to do much about that right now.

I'll talk with you all later. Flyer22 (talk) 02:29, 10 April 2008 (UTC)

You know you can completely clear that watchlist, right? :) I periodically go through and delete hundreds of articles at a time. I'll go through the list, and if I can't instantly remember why I'm watching an article, I remove it. Or, if I see something in my watchlist, at anytime, and I think, "Ah, there's a change, but nah, I don't really care what they did, then zap! I remove that article immediately. The "Popups" tool is very useful for this. If you haven't yet, click on "My preferences" at the top of the page and look at the new "Gadgets" tab on the far right. If you use Firefox, I highly recommend both WikEd and Popups. Once you start using them, you'll wonder how you ever got along with them.  :) --Elonka 03:00, 10 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Sorry, for all these new headings

It's just that I switch back to the PlayStation 3 at times and I cannot respond in the regular way. Anyway, LOL. Yes, Elonka, I know that I can clear my watchlist. It's just that I prefer not to. Eveything that I've added to it so far I want to keep on it. Even though articles such as Brad Pitt get a high level of vandalism, that's the main reason that I put that article on my watchlist. Other articles I put more on there out of true interest.

I'm about to go check on a few actor/actress articles right now...and state something on the Soap Opera project talk page. Hopefully, I'll be back on Wikipedia fully next week or the week after that...just to take care of all the matters I've stated above that need taking care of. Flyer22 (talk) 03:32, 10 April 2008 (UTC)

No problem, what are you playing?  :) Also, on the watchlist, given my druthers, I'd say don't worry about the vandalism. There will always be more vandalism on Wikipedia, and we have a lot of editors working on it. If you don't take care of vandalism right away, what would it mean? Oh no, an article on Wikipedia might be in poor shape for awhile! (gasp!) Heh. But like I said, given my choice, I'd rather see you writing articles than cleaning up vandalism. You're an amazing writer, you're a fantastic researcher. I want you to stick to the activities that excite you, not the ones that drain you. Or in other words, here's a webcomic that struck very close to home. Check my blog,[4] second one down, "Duty calls." Or if you can't get to it, let me know and I'll send it to you some other way.  :) --Elonka 03:48, 10 April 2008 (UTC)
I wasn't playing anything on the PlayStation 3 in that moment, Elonka...or lately, for that matter. I've been mainly using it for the internet. I'm not as into video games as I used to be. I'm still very good at playing them, however...especially role playing games (RPG's). Thanks for the complments and the link to the Duty calls blog. It was/is a nice read.
Right now, in this moment, I'm on a computer, and am going to go take care of a few things. Flyer22 (talk) 18:43, 16 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] AfD nomination of Susan Mayer

An article that you have been involved in editing, Susan Mayer, has been listed for deletion. If you are interested in the deletion discussion, please participate by adding your comments at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Susan Mayer. Thank you. Do you want to opt out of receiving this notice? Ultra! 22:37, 16 April 2008 (UTC)

Sigh. That character is notable, and so are all of the other Desperate Housewives from that show. Not to sound snide, but I wish more editors on Wikipedia would check on the notability of articles before nominating them for deletion simply based on what or rather what isn't in those articles. I suppose I'll make a statement or two in the deletion debate of this article when I get a good chance to. Flyer22 (talk) 23:32, 16 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Susan and the problem of Wiki

Thanks. I hope you saw my apology as well. I realized that I had lost my cool during all that. Anyway, I'm glad there's no hard feelings, and I hope we can find some joint project to work on in the future. Ciao.  BIGNOLE  (Contact me) 13:07, 21 April 2008 (UTC)

Yeah, of course, I saw your apology, Bignole. And it'd be great to work with you again. You are one of the best editors here, after all, and helped me early on when I was learning what it took to write a Good or Featured article.
Talk with you later. Flyer22 (talk) 17:57, 21 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Cassandra Foster

You've done a wonderful job with the Angie/Jesse article and recently a new page popped up about Angie's daughter Cassandra Foster. Of course the creation of it has no merit and it's just a list of her relatives and nothing else. Should I nominate it for deletion or should someone merge it. Thanks again. Glo145 (talk) 21:07, 21 April 2008 (UTC)

Delete it. The article about their son should be deleted as well. But there may be some stuff out there about that actor portraying that role. If you can find info on that actress portraying Angie's daughter, her take on the role, then that article may be worth keeping for now. The same, of course, applies to any worthwhile information about their son. Flyer22 (talk) 21:27, 21 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Peer review

So you know, Paul75 listed the article at peer review already. The link is here. I, like you, would've liked to have gotten a heads up before the decision was made, but here we are. Hopefully something good can come out of this and we can work through our stalemate, and realistically we are at a stalemate. You refuse to acknowledge they are poor sources, I refuse to acknowledge they are reliable sources. So, let's see what happens next. AniMate 02:16, 22 April 2008 (UTC)

There is nothing useful in the comment you left on the peer review page. Why not refactor it? Coming at people with an attitude like that is what got KellyAna in so much hot water. Besides, it is a good idea to get some outside eyes on the article. AniMate 02:44, 22 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Main reply about Supercouple peer review.

Don't ever compare me to KellyAna. Furthermore. There are only two sources we've been debating there. Sources for non-controversial statements that NO ONE cares about, except you two. And you know what? I'm too ticked off right now to care. Is that what KellyAna would say? Oh well. I think she'd sound harsher in most instances. Flyer22 (talk) 02:57, 22 April 2008 (UTC)

Sorry I offended you, and sorry for my crappy typing. I really shouldn't do two things at once, which is why I'm about to signoff for a while. If you think about it, there are only three people who seem to care about the article at all... you, me, and Paul. And for the record, I came and gave you a heads up as soon as I saw what he had done. Remember, assume good faith. There's really no point in being ticked off, and I really think that having a wide range of outside eyes and opinions can only improve the article. AniMate 03:01, 22 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Okay, I'll reply again

It's difficult to assume good faith in an editor who basically goes behind your back to do something that he or she knows you're against (at this time), and especially when he or she knows that you can't really participate at the moment about the thing they went behind your back about. I'm sorry (actually, I'm not), but it's very difficult to work with an editor who doesn't believe in the article he or she is working on. That's like me going to work on nursery rhyme articles when I really don't care for it. That's how Paul has been about List of supercouples and the Supercouple article. All I see is him wanting to take from them, not add to them, all because he doesn't believe that supercouples like Tad Martin and Dixie Cooney or TomKat exist (when they clearly do).

As for getting "a wide range" of outside eyes on that article, not many people respond in peer reviews mostly about soap operas unless it's like a case of Pauline Fowler, though the Supercouple article is diversified. Flyer22 (talk) 04:41, 22 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] And again

Also, I've seen articles on Wikipedia basically destroyed due to "outside eyes"... It's not going to do that article much good to have a bunch (if there is a bunch) of editors unfamiliar with the topic of Supercouple molding that article. If there were a lot of editors here as versed in topic as I am, then I wouldn't be the main one editing that article. If it weren't for me, that article would have been deleted by now.

Plainly, Paul clearly lacks trust in me as a Wikipedian editor. I clearly stated the best time an article should be put up for peer review (and, yes, I feel there's a best time or a better time as for cases like this one), and that I would get that article to Good Article status first. But he more than apparently doubted that, and went against me without even a heads up, as if I didn't know what I was talking about, all so this could be his last resort to have sources he doesn't like taken out Pfft! I wasn't too offended being briefly compared to KellyAna. I prefer her to some. Flyer22 (talk) 05:04, 22 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Re: Why did you unblock this problematic "editor"?

I did not unblock ELNUMERO1 (see here). I did delete the user's user page after 30 days of being indefinitely blocked. Cheers. --MZMcBride (talk) 01:29, 23 April 2008 (UTC)

Sorry about that. My lack of computer access right now shouldn't have been an excuse to not make certain that you were the one who unblocked that user before going to you accusing you of having done such. Turns out no one unblocked that "editor"...it's rather, as you said, he or she was only blocked indefinitely for 30 days. Ugh, indefinitely blocking for 30 days makes no sense. Why call it indefinitely blocking when it's not indefinite?
Anyway, that user should have been indefinitely blocked for good, as the name implies. I'll see to it that this is taken care of. What that vandal does on Wikipedia should not have been tolerated for this long. Flyer22 (talk) 01:51, 23 April 2008 (UTC)
There's some confusion there. MZM didn't mean the user was only blocked for 30 days, but rather that it had been 30 days since the block. The problem, however, is that this user was never indefinitely blocked. The block log shows only three blocks, 12 hours, 48 hours, and one week. So I'm not sure why you thought they were indef. blocked in the first place, and I'm not sure why MZM deleted the user page. I can only imagine that someone put a message on the userpage claiming that the user was indef. blocked, which is probably what confused both of you. -- Ned Scott 03:22, 23 April 2008 (UTC)
Yes, someone, who seemed to be an administrator, put an "indefinitely blocked" stamp on that user's page. I was going to ask MZ if MZ wouldn't mind telling me who did that. Thanks for explaining, Ned. Flyer22 (talk) 18:30, 23 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Thanks

Your contribution to my last edit to Ashley Davies was entirely appropriate, and the the edit summary hit the perfect tone! Keep up the good work. :) Debate (talk) 14:45, 24 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] GA articles

Thanks for informing me of your improvements to the articles.I definitely think they deserve a second chance at GA status now, but as I'm kinda distracted right now I might have to wait until tomorrow or wait until another editor reviews them instead. Ten Pound Hammer and his otters • (Broken clamshells•Otter chirps) 02:07, 25 April 2008 (UTC)

No problem. Most of those that editor listed are not ready for GA. Todd Manning, as I mentioned on your talk page, is the only one out of those close to ready for GA. Flyer22 (talk) 02:15, 25 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Common Name

Well it seems to me that wikipedia is half-assing the "Common name" rule. Since you reverted Katie Peretti page, what about Sharon Abbott??? She has clearly been known as "Sharon Newman" for over 11 years but she gets married and THEY are allowed to change it? What about Victoria Newman Hellstrom???? She has clearly been known better as "Victoria Newman"..these are changes that also need to be made, its not fair to just half-way make changes around the site. I'll agree to stop, but please if you're looking to up hold the common name rule, please make changes to all of the incorrect wikipedia names.

Also Nikki Newman should be changed back to Nikki Newman, she is not commonly known as "Nikki Reed". —Preceding unsigned comment added by AugustAugust (talk • contribs) 08:02, 25 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Reply about Wikipedia "half-assing" it when comes to its common name policy

You are correct. All of those articles should be changed back to their common names. I have long noticed the Sharon Abbott instance, but that will probably keep getting changed back just because she's not married to Nicholas Newman anymore and is married to Jack Abbott. If the official CBS website lists her as Sharon Abbott, though, there is a little merit in her article being titled that.

Anyway, you should move any articles (that you know not to be common name-titled) to their common names and explain to any objecting editors. I am all for you moving those articles you just mentioned to their common names. Be wary of Sharon Abbott, though, as I just stated.

Also, I had already touched on Wikipedia's inconsistency in regards to the common name policy at the Wikipedia:WikiProject Soap Operas talk page, which somewhat resembles what you just stated on that matter.

I'll see you around. Flyer22 (talk) 08:45, 25 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] And, oh...

Nikki Newman's article has already been changed back to Nikki Newman, since March 20th of this year. Flyer22 (talk) 09:12, 25 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Real world stuff

Yeah, I think it's fun to see how characters were formed! I also know that information about how episodes and characters were made exists for a bunch of fictional series and I'm surprised that more people haven't bought the needed books and used them as sources... Anyway, I'm glad to hear that my work has been appreciated :) WhisperToMe (talk) 13:46, 27 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Your request

Hi. I wasn't ignoring your request, but I have had monstrous problems the last few days staying connected via my dial-up. I've moved to the country and the phone lines are less that stellar. With the rain we've had in Indiana, the lines are soaked and I can't stay connected. I'll take a look at the page you mentioned, but I should warn you that I know little to nothing about that soap. I only watch The Guiding Light, and that only occasionally. I'll give it a look see this week as the lines dry out. Thanks. Wildhartlivie (talk) 23:28, 12 May 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for explaining. You didn't have to. Oh, and if your're wondering why the plot summary of that article is in present tense, it's because plot summaries, per Wikipedia policy should be. Flyer22 (talk) 23:43, 12 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Common Names

Homie, you changed my stuff again? What's up wit you? I was just matching the names that these characters are using now. You thought I was doing this for my own self? No. I was doing it because the characters are not using the names that are being used for these articles. For example, Jessica from One Life to Live. She got married to Nash and her last name got changed. You left that alone. Annie from All My Children. She got married to Ryan and her last name got changed, and you left that alone. but when I make changes, you say something to me. I don't like that, because it sounds to me that you are playing favorites. And you are going to be like that, then I will seek intervention, Homie. The King Gemini (talk) 17:25, 16 May 2008 (UTC)

I'm not your homie, and I'm not playing favorites. What the characters change their names to does not matter. Their common names do. Annie Lavery is her common name. 18:12, 16 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Common names Part 2

The only reason I left Jessica's alone is due to what I said on the WikiProject Soap Operas talk page. Playing favorites? Don't make me laugh. I don't like it one bit when you misinformed editors go around changing characters' articles from their common names, and would much prefer Jessica's article are being at Jessica Buchanan, like it should be. And don't try ro threaten me. Policy is on my side. Not yours. Flyer22 (talk) 18:18, 16 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Common Names Part 3

Who said I was threatin' you? You gettin all defensive now? You gettin scared? And FYI, I didn't misinform anything. The King Gemini (talk) 00:19, 17 May 2008 (UTC)

Getting scared? Whatever. Just read Wikipedia policy. Yes, you are misinformed -- as you seem to think that when a female gets married, it means her article should be changed. No, it shouldn't...because her married name is not her common name. If it becomes her common name, then you have a case. Flyer22 (talk) 00:57, 17 May 2008 (UTC)
That's all you could've said. Now, if Jessica and Annie's names can become common names, so can Langston, EJ, and any other article that I moved. The King Gemini (talk) 01:09, 17 May 2008 (UTC)
They aren't common names yet is the point. It took years for Kendall Hart Slater (with the Slater part tagged onto it) to become her common name. Flyer22 (talk) 01:14, 17 May 2008 (UTC)
How long did it take? The King Gemini (talk) 01:21, 17 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Common names Part 4

Kendall Hart's common name becoming Kendall Hart Slater (either are her common name) happened due to the character calling herself Kendall Hart Slater very often, to where it became very familiarized to viewers. She's done that for two years now. Those two years, though short, really drilled in that name. A name like Jessica Buchanan is more difficult to overcome because the name Jessica Brennan has yet to become as prominent as her maiden name. I guarantee that when most people think of Jessica's name, they think "Jessica Buchanan", not "Jessica Brennan". Common name is sometimes tricky, but not in most cases. Flyer22 (talk) 01:36, 17 May 2008 (UTC)

But on Days of our Lives, EJ has been using the DiMera name ever since he married Sami. I was just trying to make it right. That shouldn't be against policy at all Flyer22. The King Gemini (talk) 14:13, 18 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Vandalism

Hi, I'm sorry if there is a problem but I have never heard of James Dean before let a lone edited a page on wikipedia about him. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.152.81.126 (talk) 15:45, 18 May 2008 (UTC)

Someone else, a vandal, using the same IP address as you, vandalized that article. Flyer22 (talk) 17:51, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Final on common names

EJ Dimera simply is not his common name yet or maybe even ever. A few months of calling himself that does not overshadow the longer amount of time he's been called EJ Wells. I don't know how else to explain common name policy to you. Just remember all I've said about it, what it actually says about itself, and follow that. Flyer22 (talk) 17:46, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Greenlee's Nobility

Flyer, I don't even know why we are here. I suppose some debs are nobles, but Greenlee isn't one of them. Should I run over to 90210 article and add Donna Martin to the fictional nobility category because she debued on the show? I believe Greenlee is American. Americans do not have titles unless they bring them from somewhere else, or inherit them. It is too much of a stretch to include her in the category so kindly revert the edit. Furthermore it has always been very clear on AMC who the nobility are, as it is on all the other ABC soaps. Wlmg (talk) 02:35, 24 May 2008 (UTC)

I'll kindly revert. But who are the clear nobility on All My Children? The Chandlers, I presume? Flyer22 (talk) 05:42, 24 May 2008 (UTC)

Hugo Marick, Dimitri Marick (a.k.a. Count Andrassy) and his clan. Princess Gillian Andrassy. I'm sure there's other examples but to be honest I'm not a really big AMC fan. Wlmg (talk) 14:13, 24 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] FYI...

User_talk:TimothyBanks#So_you.27re_just_going_to_ignore_naming_conventions.2C_huh.3F

FYI, he tried moving Ameera to her married name. --DrBat (talk) 14:51, 26 May 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for the heads up. Flyer22 (talk) 17:58, 26 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Greenlee's Picture

Hi Flyer. I am in an edit war with someone over Greenlee's photo. Perhaps you can take a look at the edit history over there. In a nutshell I contend that a promo picture of Rebecca Budig is inferior to a screenshot of Greenlee herself. Here is the source of the offending pic http://abc.go.com/daytime/allmychildren/gallery/129974_1.html the uploader supplied the wrong link therefore her fair use rationale is imperfect if I want to nitpick. But moreover, it's a horrible pic of Budig, and makes her look fat.

Wlmg (talk) 07:12, 28 May 2008 (UTC)

The reason I change the picture to the promo shot since other soaps are moving toward having clearer, more descriptive, higher resolution promo shots such as The Young and the Restless (i.e. Heather Stevens and Sharon Abbott), The Bold and the Beautiful (i.e. Bridget Forrester, Donna Forrester), Days of our Lives (i.e. E.J. DiMera and Max Brady), and some on All My Children (i.e. Kendall Hart, and Krystal Carey). Also, its not a promo shot of Budig, its on ABC done for the character Greenlee. Candyo32 (talk) 23:12, 28 May 2008 (UTC)

I see that the picture from the ABC site has Rebecca Budig's name in large type, and Greenlee Smythe is in a much smaller font. Imho it does not illustrate the character Greenlee per se. There are other pics from the source that have Greenlee working at Fusion. That would be an unequivocal picture of Greenlee the same as a screen shot is. Fair use wikipedia pics are supposed to be low-res, so a high-res pic of Budig or Greenlee is a violation of wikipedia policy. Wlmg (talk) 03:49, 29 May 2008 (UTC)

Candyo32, that's still a promotional shot, no matter whether it's more so of Greenlee or Rebecca. I don't have a problem with you using promotional headshots for the main picture, but Wlmg has a point about which rationale, promotional or screenshots, is the strongest.
Oh, and I agree that there has got to be a better promotional headshot of Greenlee than that. It does not have to be from 2008 either. She still looks the same from however long she's been on this show. Until that "right" promotional headshot is found, the screenshot that is there now should remain. Flyer22 (talk) 17:58, 29 May 2008 (UTC)
I'm posting a better image. I hope you and Wlmg approve. Candyo32 (talk) 01:02, 30 May 2008 (UTC)

It's very pink, hardly the image for a "bad" girl, but better. Wlmg (talk) 01:01, 31 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Katie Peretti - Victoria Hellstrom???

Question..why is Victoria Newman (Victoria Newman Hellstrom) when clearly she does not use the last name Hellstrom, but yet, Katie Peretti is simple (Katie Peretti) when clearly she goes by "Katie Peretti Snyder"??? Wikipedia, make up your mind! —Preceding unsigned comment added by TimothyBanks (talk • contribs) 04:00, 30 May 2008 (UTC)

I suggest you move her article and any article not at its common name to its common name. A wrongly moved article is no justification for you wrongly moving articles as well. Flyer22 (talk) 04:05, 30 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Question

I'm still having one more problem, the article entitled Sharon Abbott is clearly not her common name, when she has been known as and still listed as "Sharon Newman" since 1996. I was planning to leave it like it was until her marriage to "Abbott" ends. And..their is the article of Julia Santos Keefer, is that her common name or is she referred to as Julia Santos. I note her as being used by both those names. —Preceding unsigned comment added by TimothyBanks (talk • contribs) 23:11, 30 May 2008 (UTC)

Yeah, Sharon Abbott is tricky, because while Sharon Newman is her common name, it's a married name while she is currently married to another man and has not been calling herself Sharon Newman since. I'll let you decide that one.
Julia hasn't been referred to as Julia Santos Keefer often. Flyer22 (talk) 23:36, 30 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Can you help?

I need help uploading images to my supercouple page. Could you possibly help me with that please? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Showcreator (talk • contribs) 22:48, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

Once I get to a computer, sure. At this very moment, I am editing from a gaming console (the PlayStation 3), which does not allow me much editing freedom. Flyer22 (talk) 16:50, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Update

Thanx for the update Flyer22. Take care.Mcelite (talk) 17:10, 6 June 2008 (UTC)mcelite

[edit] I need help

Hey Flyer22. I need help blocking an unregistered user. He continues to remove information on Native American articles and the Black indians article as well. Basically trying to make it seem as if the groups are not related at all.Mcelite (talk) 05:52, 7 June 2008 (UTC)mcelite

It's difficult to block IP-address editors if they have dynamic IPs instead of static IPs. With dynamic IPs, they can keep coming back.
Anyway, I see that you've reported this IP-address editor you speak of to the higher-ups. Flyer22 (talk) 17:55, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Kids of General Hospital

Right now we have articles on Kristina Davis, Molly Lansing, Spencer Cassadine, Cameron Webber, and Jake Spencer (for now). None of these characters have ever really done anything though. They rarely speak, and the articles are almost entirely about their parents. Would you be opposed to merging these into a list along the lines of Children of Salem, Days of our Lives? Yes, that article is a hot mess, but these are really, really bad. The only character that has ever really done anything is Kristina... and that consisted of screaming and becoming catatonic. AniMate 00:41, 9 June 2008 (UTC)

All of the individual fictional child articles need to be deleted, all of the All My Children ones as well, perhaps with the exception of Miranda Montgomery. Though she has not really done anything either. Flyer22 (talk) 00:59, 9 June 2008 (UTC)
Agreed. I'm going to be doing a massive deletion later tonight once I've had a chance to look through all of the GH characters to make sure there aren't any others. AniMate 01:15, 9 June 2008 (UTC)
Also, can you do me a favor. Take a look through User:Santos25Q's contributions. I found some unbelievably bad moves and reverted most of them, and the last one I moved was Brenda Jacks-Morgan back to Brenda Barrett. The majority of them aren't any better than that, and a few are worse. Anyway, check through them if you can. There are a few I haven't reverted ( a Guiding Light character I'm not familiar with) and Holly Sutton (because of redirects). Thanks AniMate 01:52, 9 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] User:72.165.221.122

Done, but since it's an IP number I can only block it for a short period (I chose 24 hours) rather than permanently. Bearcat (talk) 16:18, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

Yeah, I know about the IP address complications. Sometimes an IP address or all IP addresses from a certain location are blocked for a long time, but that action punishes anyone else who may use those IP addresses in the future, especially in the case of dynamic IPs. Regardless, thank you for the help. Flyer22 (talk) 16:24, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Me

Firstly my dear, as you somehow see yourself as the guardian of Wikipedia, if you choose to report me to other editors, please stick to the facts. I have not been warned by several editors about my conduct - you are the only person who chooses to block everything I have tried to do. If you can produce evidence of myself being warned by other editors, please do. Secondly, you do not own the Bianca Montgomery page - as I'm sure you know that it is against Wikipedia rules to claim ownership of certain articles. I honestly believe that the article is too long, and I have every right in the world to suggest such, and have the issue opened up to a general discussion such as I have done on the Talk Page. You have every right to block my use of swearwords and idiocy, which certain users of the website drive me too some time. However, continued blocking of my Wikipedian right to make my own legitimate suggestions and comments on certain articles will lead to myself reporting you for misuse. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.141.163.186 (talk) 00:06, 11 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Me

First off, IP, I do not presume to own any article on Wikipedia. Second, I did not say that you've been warned by several editors. Third, each time I have reverted you has been justified. Fourth, you have nothing to report me about. And, finally, you are wrong about the length of the Bianca Montgomery article, as I've stated on its talk page. Flyer22 (talk) 00:29, 11 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] User:Santos25Q

Recent disagreements aside, you offered mentorship to this user once his block expires. I'm fairly certain he's been evading his block by editing on a dynamic IP in 76.6X.XXX.XXX range, and has been doing so for some time. There are very similar edits about characters names that have been made by both Santos and the IP over the past couple of months. Look at Carly Corinthos and then look through the history. The 76 IP has done the exact same name changing without understanding the difference between married names, common names, birth names, or professional names that has been so problematic with Santos. Anyway, comment on his talk page if you'd like... even if its to tell me I'm jumping at shadows. AniMate 18:50, 12 June 2008 (UTC)

Actually, this appears to be User:Randy Jaiyan, a rather prolific Carly Corinthos obsessed sockpuppeteer. AniMate 19:01, 12 June 2008 (UTC)
I filed a report about this at Wikipedia:Suspected_sock_puppets/Randy_Jaiyan. AniMate 22:45, 12 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Greenlee's Relationships

O.k. so Leo went over the falls and is presumed dead? I have no idea if that was ever made official. I'm going to go out on a limb, and bet that Leo will be brought back to life, or at the very least his long lost devil identical twin will appear, or an imposter with a reasonable facsimile of his face. Is there really a point to including her former names? She is going by Greenlee Smythe correct? I checked the Erica Kane article, and it doesn't get into all her exs and formers in the article intro. Chances are the Greenlee character will be around for decades, and will rack up the marriages. Whadda you think about changing the name to plain Greenlee Smythe? Wlmg (talk) 00:22, 13 June 2008 (UTC)

It'd be one of their biggest mistakes if they bring on a recast Leo. Not only that, but we have enough "return from the dead" characters on that show. But, yeah, take Greenlee's married names from the lead. They can go in her infobox instead. Flyer22 (talk) 01:42, 13 June 2008 (UTC) I swear for real ABC is using ghost characters as a cost saving measure. Lose your contract, we kill you off, but as a consolation prize you can stay on as a recurrent ghost, i.e. Dixie Martin, Alan Quartermain, and Emily, but she was dead and a hallucination only seen by Nicholas--I digress.Wlmg (talk) 04:46, 13 June 2008 (UTC)

I changed it. What do you think of Greenlee Du Pres née Smythe née Du Pres née Lavery Smythe ? Wlmg (talk) 04:33, 13 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Re: Brad Pitt

Hi, thanks for informing on what I did. That's my bad there. I re-added the info. and I hope it reads well in the article. Again, thanks for informing me on what I did. ;) --  ThinkBlue  (Hit BLUE) 16:06, 13 June 2008 (UTC)

No problem. Thanks for taking care of that. Flyer22 (talk) 18:57, 13 June 2008 (UTC)
You're welcome. ;) --  ThinkBlue  (Hit BLUE) 19:13, 13 June 2008 (UTC)