User talk:Wildhartlivie

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[edit] Helpful templates

Just cut an paste them when you need them from this page, I keep them on my user page. The dates are always formatted correctly, just remember to increment the date, as often as possible, as I sometimes forget to do.

• <ref>{{cite web |url= |title= |accessdate=2007-10-31 |quote= |publisher= }}</ref>
• <ref>{{cite book |last= |first= |authorlink= |coauthors= |title= |year= |publisher= |quote= | url= |isbn= }}</ref>
• <ref>{{cite news |first= |last= |authorlink= |coauthors= |title= |url= |quote= |publisher=[[New York Times]] |date= |accessdate=2007-10-31 }}</ref>

[edit] Referencing

Thanks. Yes, I wrote it to provide a simple intro for new users, as referencing is essential and the existing pages something of a maze. You can post it on user or article talk pages as {{refstart}} or link to WP:REFB. You might like to watchlist the template and essay talk page to help keep an eye on it. Ty 00:22, 2 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] WML etc.

Thanks for the heads up :) TheHYPO (talk) 14:54, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] The fight against crime

I found a new toy in the Wikifight against vandals.

What do you think??? Oh, maybe you have already seen it...IP4240207xx (talk) 08:54, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

I want to see some Doris Day, some flowers, puppies, articles like that popping up on your list, or I'll get worried...IP4240207xx (talk)

I removed the lists, don't need them sitting around cluttering up the talkbox, Peter Frampton. Here was what I was thinking, create a new account, say Wildhartlivietoo and then put all the pages from the vandal you are tracking on the watch list for that account? So, what's her name and all her socks top 15 pages. Then you could just sign in and check the history? IP4240207xx (talk)

Yes, if you run that list on me, half of those articles/edits are reversion of HC+SPs. Just imagine if there wasn't any vandalism? IP4240207xx (talk) 09:47, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Hmmm....

Sorta, yeah. It's like there's no war to fight anymore. It's almost boring now. By the way, I have a question for you, I'll shoot you an email. Pinkadelica 05:26, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

True, but who else is going to do such detailed research involving kinescopes and interlibrary loans? Pinkadelica 05:55, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for fixing my user page. Don't you just love vandals and their unique sense of originality? Pinkadelica 11:37, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] The Mickey Mouse Club

I am having trouble with an editor removing information of mine that is sourced and cited very well. They are telling me that an "uninterested" editor needs to publish the information, which makes no sense to me as an "uninterested" editor would have no reason to do so. Zachary Jaydon was a cast member on The Mickey Mouse Club, and I have cited numerous Official, Reliable, Non-Secondary Disney Publications that provide this information clearly. The editor keeps removing the information without taking the time to check the sources, which can be done if a small amount of effort is put into it. I believe that this goes against Wiki policy as well as a major lack of the assumption of good faith. Removing unsourced information is one thing, but when an editor takes the time to make an article more informative and accurate, it's very discouraging. Please help!

Skyler Morgan (talk) 20:30, 8 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Award winning actors

Hi Wildhartlivie, I was wondering if you know where it is written that we should avoid going into award overdrive in the opening sentence of actor articles. I notice Judy Garland has won just about every award going, and so it's now all blurted out in the first sentence. Also - have you read the first sentence of Marilyn Monroe? What a laundry list. I wonder if anyone has actually read it out loud. It makes me cringe, especially with all the citations (sourced fluff is still fluff in my opinion) and the word "icon" should be struck from Wikipedia's lexicon. (See Julie Andrews - I removed "icon" and it was about 5 minutes later that it was angrily reinserted) I'm hesitant to do anything that will just get reverted straight away. I've looked at the MoS for biographies, and Marilyn Monroe could probably be fixed if the guideline was adhered to. Do you think the awards come under the heading of "peacock terms"? If the awards have to be mentioned, I think it's far better executed in Paul Newman's article. I would be interested in your opinion. Rossrs (talk) 10:10, 11 June 2008 (UTC)

Thanks. I was so hoping there was a law somewhere carved in stone, so I'll give it some more thought. I guess it's not exactly "peacockery" but perhaps it's "undue emphasis". Garland's article didn't have the award references in the opening sentence when it passed FA - that's been added later. Even so, nobody's been bothered enough by it to remove it. I may try rewording it Paul Newmanesque and see what happens. Marilyn is going to require more creativity than I can muster at the moment. Yikes!  :-) cheers Rossrs (talk) 10:19, 12 June 2008 (UTC)

Well funny you should mention... I've just hit the "save page" button on Judy Garland (and Paul Newman and Katharine Hepburn - living dangerously....). I'd appreciate your thoughts, especially regarding Garland. I didn't actually remove anything, but just gave it the context and the explanation that was missing, so I can't imagine that I've offended any Garlandites. The Marilynites scare me though. Rossrs (talk) 10:57, 12 June 2008 (UTC)

OK thanks. Have fun eating weeds. Rossrs (talk) 12:40, 12 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Quick suggestions on assessments

Hi. I've just been following up on some of your recent assessments for the Italy Project. Two quick suggestions. I tend to scatter listas= over all the Projects on biographical articles, it's useful whatever the project. And for the likes of Giuseppe Beghetto, the {{Cycling project}} banner makes more sense than the general Sports one - it's one of the annoying non-standard ones. Which I've had to get quite familiar with, they've been chucking hundreds of articles in the direction of the Italy Project! :-( Oh, and WikiProject Rowing is another you could use. No big deal, just things I noticed when following you up. Oh and thanks for classing the article quality for all the projects, not everyone does that. Finally, I suspect you've probably noticed, but in a whole load of articles a few weeks ago, you missed the first curly bracket on {{blp}} Cheers FlagSteward (talk) 13:17, 12 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] RE:Lizzie Borden

Two sentences into your complaint I already knew which editor you were talking about. He is manifesting the same uncivil behavior and insinuation of his own policies that he has done with other editors. I hope the ArbCom deals with him. In the meantime, please take this specific incident to WP:RfC and I will comment on the talk page then, just for the sake of due process (which is very important with this editor, or he will accuse you of ownership.--Esprit15d • talk • contribs 14:12, 13 June 2008 (UTC)