User talk:FisherQueen

[edit] User:Hashmi, Usman

I saw your warning notice on Hashmi, Usman's talk page. I have been watching him for quite some time and basically all he does is create non-notable articles and categories that mostly get deleted, which when warned about he never replies to. He just blanks his talk page, which was discussed recently, and continues doing the usual stuff. I was considering if he should be brought to [[[WP:RFC]] to account for his generally disruptive actions but I suspect he will just ignore any talk page notices and refuse to interact with anyone as usual. I don't think he has ever actually interacted with anyone since his arrival. I have made 2 attempts to help him as have some other editors, but now I just observe. Thoughts? ww2censor (talk) 14:26, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

See, he just blanked the talk page again. ww2censor (talk) 14:43, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

It's a good trick. I just checked his list of deleted contributions, and saw for the first time what an enormous number of them he has created. I'm going to do something about it. -FisherQueen (talk · contribs) 03:03, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

I did something about it. -FisherQueen (talk · contribs) 03:15, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

Hopefully he will wake up. I actually think he could be a productive editor if he just makes articles for notable people. Thanks ww2censor (talk) 03:20, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

Thanks, I've wasted a fair bit of time worrying about this user. Please delete my comment if you think it is inappropriate, but I would like to let you know about a previous discussion in AIV archive 420 Blanking user talk page that includes a list of alleged sockpuppets, in case further interactions are required. --Johnuniq (talk) 10:05, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

I'm glad you showed me that. If I'd seen the discussion that came to a different conclusion than I did, I probably would have gone to ANI rather than acting solo, but having acted, I'm going to stand by what I did. -FisherQueen (talk · contribs) 12:52, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

Excellent. I started working on a script to re-create a single page with all the messages left on the user's talk page (because it has been blanked so many times, it's very hard to get an overview from the history, and I felt that people were missing the picture). I abandoned that when people made an effort to work with the user (and because it was pointed out that restoring comments blanked by a user is not desirable). If you ever need such a tool, let me know! --Johnuniq (talk) 00:20, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

FYI. Some 500+ redirects of this user are being discussed here with a view to deletion of many. ww2censor (talk) 15:20, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

Guess who just blanked his talk page – I suppose it doesn't matter. --Johnuniq (talk) 22:48, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Where are you from?

Where are you from? If you not secret--123FM (talk) 20:36, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

It's not a secret; there's enough information in my userspace to figure it out. -FisherQueen (talk · contribs) 20:42, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

I'm a nerd

Is it cool?--123FM (talk) 17:05, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

It is very cool to be a nerd. -FisherQueen (talk · contribs) 17:34, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] On a band

Uh I am new to this site, but I manage a band, Group Therapy. I took the time to make a wikipedia page for them today, but you deemed it unessecary for them to have one. I spent over 2 hours on the page, for you to just delete it. Would you delete them if they were signed? They actually do have relevance to alot of people in my area, so I would appreciate it if you would just msg me before you delete my page. I followed the rules to making a page, and I will make a Group Therapy page again. The page wasn't even close to being finished, as I am at work doing it on the side. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Csalyers (talk • contribs) 21:52, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

I deleted your article because I thought it was about a subject that didn't meet the notability criteria, but I'm open to the possibility that I was wrong. If you'll provide me with links to three articles about the subject in newspapers, magazines, or significant online sources, I'd be happy to undelete the article, and I'll even add the sources to it so no one else will mistake it for an inappropriate article.

[edit] WHY?

I just made a page to a very dedicated group of fans and i want to know WHY DID YOU DELETE IT? I spent ALOT of time on that page just to have it deleted. Can you please tell my why? & what I have to do to get it back? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Dangerrr (talk • contribs)

I deleted your article because I thought it was about a subject that didn't meet the notability criteria, but I'm open to the possibility that I was wrong. If you'll provide me with links to three articles about the subject in newspapers, magazines, or significant online sources, I'd be happy to undelete the article, and I'll even add the sources to it so no one else will mistake it for an inappropriate article. -FisherQueen (talk · contribs) 23:16, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

http://buzzworthy.mtv.com/2008/03/13/jonas-brothers-fans-and-the-nonviolent-adorably-aggro-assault-on-mtvcom/comment-page-11/ We crashed MTV's website showing them that they had a problem in thier system We call it JONAS FLOOD '08 http://jonasbrothersfan.com/Home/tabid/241/EntryID/2908/Default.aspx We also crashed JBF http://buzzworthy.mtv.com/2008/03/17/jonas-brothers-fan-shares-the-jb-love-today-on-trl/ Here's another article about the MTV Crash Significance : Educating the world about the currently largest fan base. We are responsibly for creating one of the biggest facebook communities, where fans from all over the world unite in their love for the Jonas Brothers. The JBFBDB has extended to over 30,000 topics and is one of the busiest, if not the busiest, fan pages on facebook. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Dangerrr (talk • contribs) 00:02, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

None of those sources even mentions the facebook fan page you're trying to create an article about. You need articles whose primary subject is the facebook page. -FisherQueen (talk · contribs) 01:12, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Deleyaman

Hello, I've received a proposed Deletion message after spending most of my day working on a page for a band called Deleyaman who is one of the most important, active and unique bands in the spiritual, ethereal, world music genre today in Europe and particularly in France. They are known in the U.S. by the connaiseurs of the genre and immensely appreciated. The band recently toured California and performed at the Herbert Zipper Concert Hall in Los Angeles to a sold out crowd.

In 2005, The Armenian Duduk music was proclaimed by UNESCO a Masterpiece of the Oral and Intangible Heritage of Humanity. This International four member band called Deleyaman is probably one of the armenian duduk's best representatives in contemporary alternative music today. I've included the references on the Wikipedia page, from where I've gathered most of the information. I sincerely hope that this page will not be deleted but on the contrary expanded. Thank you. Araeolsaju (talk) 00:59, 5 June 2008 (UTC).

If they are notable, then there's nothing to worry about; just add the independent reliable sources that show that they meet the notability criteria, and it won't be deleted. The {prod} tag gives you five days to work on it before it's reviewed. -FisherQueen (talk · contribs) 01:08, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

thank you, should I remove the deletion proposal and if yes how is that done ? and is the independent reliable sources another section that I must edit ? Araeolsaju (talk) —Preceding comment was added at 01:23, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

Yes, once you've finished adding the sources you're welcome to remove the tag. If anyone disagrees that the band meets the notability criteria they can recommend a community deletion discussion, but if they are as you describe them and the sources are there, I doubt anyone will do that. -FisherQueen (talk · contribs) 02:37, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

hello, I improved the article as well as adding a few notable references but I am unable to remove the deletion proposal tag since it is not visible on the edit page. Would you be kind enough to let me know how I shall proceed ? Thank you ; (Araeolsaju (talk) 11:53, 5 June 2008 (UTC)).

It was the three lines of code at the top of the article; I took it off. -FisherQueen (talk · contribs) 12:06, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

-thank you very much, you seem to be very efficient and quick at all this. I appreciate it. many thanks again for your input and help.(Araeolsaju (talk) 12:39, 5 June 2008 (UTC)).

Yes, I am quite awesome. Thank you for noticing. :) Welcome to Wikipedia! If you have other questions, feel free to ask. -FisherQueen (talk · contribs) 12:50, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

thanks for the welcome note and those great looking cookies :)) (Araeolsaju (talk) 18:29, 6 June 2008 (UTC)).

Hello, I don't mean to bother you but I guess I need your help again. I saw that there was a message about genereal notibility guideline again on the Deleyaman page I'd provided. This time, I have no idea whom it is from since there was no message in the talk page nor an indication of a received message as I'd initially received from you. I have a hard time understanding why there is an objection to this article, since not only the band is notable but the page was expanded with more references and I also noticed that a correction was contributed from another source. The new information I gathered since I started this article only helped reinforce the credibility of this band to be in Wikipedia pages since the founder of Deleyaman happens to be noted in the Billboard Encyclopedia of Record Producers as a co-producer on a 1983 record release, with the quite famous and influential producer Spot from SST Records. Both, the producer and record label are on the Wikipedia pages. Is this message an automated warning or is someone behind it and if so, what shall I do to avoid removal of the article ? thank you for your advice. regards.(Araeolsaju (talk) 11:59, 9 June 2008 (UTC)).

[edit] RE: Blocking

Thanks, that was a very irritating snaffu. I checked the block logs and it seems I did block the account I was intending to block as well, it seems to have happened a few minutes later but it's for the same thing, so it must have gone through at the same time. Very confusing! But thanks for the unblock :) SGGH ^speak! 06:29, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

I guess I can understand why even an admin can't unblock himself. -FisherQueen (talk · contribs) 11:21, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Somebody mail them some shoes

Guess who's back! They'd be a good vandal patroller if we could convince them to stop spamming barefoot everywhere. Is one edit sufficient? WLU (talk) 17:28, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Unblock rejection

Nice work. Maintain a firm line against vandals. Seems to be a few more in the unblock queue--not actually the most clear cut case, as the two parties involved seem to be warring over a linguistic term that shares a linguistic connection. But evidence of Bad Faith on both sides, and past history of aggressiveness. Ciao. - RatSkrew (talk) 20:50, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] John Underhill

You removed the geology professor and SPL referee from this dab page because, according to your edit summary, he only referees children's matches (I've no idea where you got that from, he refereed an SPL match less than a month ago), Professor of Geology was apparently not notable enough on its own. I was expecting it to be removed because it was a red link, not because of lack of notability. I've put him back and started an article, hopefully you won't feel the need to remove this as well. Mikenorton (talk) 15:42, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

When I removed it, there was no indication of notability and no sources cited; if he is notable and an article is created with reliable sources, then I have zero problem. I took it for one of the many non-notable autobiographies we see, but if he really is a notable person, go for it and have fun. -FisherQueen (talk · contribs) 16:04, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Template categories

Please add categories to all of your templates. Thank you. --Thetrick (talk) 00:20, 11 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] LGBT WikiProject Newsletter

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[edit] Question

Isn't it possible usedfan is just trying to bring down another editor with him in pure spite of the user? I'm not convinced they are the same person. Silverorion actually knows how to write in proper English. I'm talking about spelling and punctuation when usedfan is editing the mainspace and trying. Is it possible you could request a checkuser before blocking silverorion to be on the side of caution? However, I'm pretty sure usedfan has many sock puppets. A checkuser is a good idea to get rid of those to I think. Landon1980 (talk) 20:20, 14 June 2008 (UTC)

Yes, I think that's exactly what's happening. I thought I laid the sarcasm on pretty thick in my message, which I intended to be humorous, but perhaps it wasn't quite thick enough. I found it hilarious that User:USEDfan thought anyone would believe that. -FisherQueen (talk · contribs) 20:27, 14 June 2008 (UTC)

Yeah, I was 99% certain you were being sarcastic. He is probably telling the truth about having socks though, and I bet they will be popping up. The admins involved will probably be the first hit, but I'm sure you guys are used to that type of thing. I'm sure he is furious with me for reporting him too. Anyways, thanks for your time. Landon1980 (talk) 20:46, 14 June 2008 (UTC)

I've already added his favorite article to my watchlist, and am poised to block any sockpuppets that crawl out of the woodwork. I'll bet I'm not the only one, too. -FisherQueen (talk · contribs) 20:47, 14 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] User:USEDfan

FisherQueen, I agree that its clear that SilverOrion is a USEDfan sockpuppet and should be immediately blocked. The editing pattern and the distinctive language styles are unmistakably similar. Unfortunately, I also have to conclude that his reference to another USEDfan account clearly means your account, and I see no choice but to indef ban you forthwith without any recourse to CheckUser or other checking mechanism. I'm sorry it has come to this, but when such a reliable and honest editor as USEDfan makes an accusation, I have no choice but to act with haste. Best, Gwernol 20:40, 14 June 2008 (UTC)

Since you have cleverly foiled me, I have to confess that, yes, I am User:USEDfan. I cleverly pretended to know good manners and good English in order to prevent you from learning that I don't know them at all. Of course, when you block me, I'll just use one of my many other sockpuppets to right the genre-related wrongs on my favorite band's article; maybe it's time to mobilize my User:Jimbo Wales account. I have hundreds of secret sockpuppets, and you'll never find them all. heheheheh. -FisherQueen (talk · contribs) 20:44, 14 June 2008 (UTC)

So, your evil scheme is finally unveiled in all its perfidious glory. I've had my suspicions about that Jimbo Wales account for a while. Of course, its also obvious that the ringleader is none other than that obvious sockpuppet Gwernol. My next step is clear, I am off to block that scoundrel for a very, very long time. Aha, victory is....

But if you block his sockpuppets, then I'll be free to vandalize the article even more. It's a shame he has to be blocked, he contributed to the article so much. If it weren't for him, the article would be a mess, full of evil things like citations and good grammar. — ^FatalError 00:35, 15 June 2008 (UTC)