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[edit] Sweden WW2 Merchant Marine

We need data on Sweden's merchant marine casualties in WW2. Can you find the figures and a source?--Woogie10w 21:11, 22 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Framework discussion

Just dropping a note that I appreciate your help with the framework, your feedback is quite helpful to me. Oberiko 05:41, 29 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Pictures, again

Hi there. I noticed the work you did earlier this month on weeding out the pictures in World War II. I really think you were on the right track there. Unfortunately, things got reverted and re-reverted, and then the article got protected without your changes, and then the whole discussion got archived. Now there are more attempts to add unnecessary pictures to the sections dealing with the USSR. Would you consider raising the discussion again? Or are you thinking that the pictures can wait until the proposed restructure takes place? - Eron Talk 21:56, 29 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] re: WW2 Framework

Hi Dna-Dennis.

Thanks for your comment. I've been following the discussion there in regards to the proposed transformation of the article. I pretty much agree with everything you and Oberiko have stated. If there's anything I see that needs to be address, I'll make sure to make it known. Thanks again. Parsecboy 01:11, 1 October 2007 (UTC)

Howdy Dna. I'm grateful for the offer. I'll probably be awhile expanding on the sections, trying to include everything major while also trimming what I'll be proposing for inclusion in the article. I've added a new section on my user-space framework page for what I'm thinking the paragraphs for the first "course of the war" section should be and what I'll be trying to cram into them. As always, any feedback is much appreciated. Oberiko 02:10, 1 October 2007 (UTC)
My own note; temp link to framespace. --Dna-Dennis 02:25, 1 October 2007 (UTC)
Hey, that's a really useful page you sent me there, quite a bit that I didn't catch earlier. Thanks! Oberiko —Preceding signed but undated comment was added at 11:28, 1 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] re:WWII Pics Asia/Pacific

Hi again, Dna-Dennis

Go right ahead. I don't own the article anymore than anyone else does, afterall. It's just a little irritating that User:Senzangakhona continually inserts the Khatyn massacre image, that doesn't really belong on the WWII article, along with other unhelpful edits he/she keeps making. Parsecboy 22:57, 1 October 2007 (UTC)

Nice work on the trimming. I've been looking over the article, and some of the maps and charts seem out of place and/or unnecessary. (I note that the Eastern Front is the only area that has battle maps. Not sure we need those.) You've been carrying the load on pictures, so I was thinking about dealing with those images. Do you agree that they need cutting? - Eron Talk 23:10, 1 October 2007 (UTC)
I should probably add that a couple of them are the casualty pie charts that you uploaded; I don't know if you put them in the World War II article or not. They are also in the World War II Casualties article, and I think they belong there. I was going to move that giant casualty-by-country bar graph there as well. - Eron Talk 23:17, 1 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Image:WW1 TitlePicture For Wikipedia Article.jpg

commons:Image:Sopwith.Camel_in_flying.jpg was deleted because it didn't have a source. It needs to be replaced in commons:Image:WW1 TitlePicture For Wikipedia Article.jpg. Edward 15:27, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

And once again, the copyright police puts a dagger into my back... :) Don't worry, I will address this matter ASAP. --Dna-Dennis 16:03, 4 October 2007 (UTC)
Done. I've replaced deleted Image:Sopwith.Camel in flying.jpg with Image:AlbatDIII.jpg (German Albatros D.III fighter biplanes). --Dna-Dennis 09:46, 6 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Thanks

Howdy Dna.

Thanks for the words. As an FYI, we've posted the "complete" sections up at World War II/temp, though further tweaking will likely be needed. Where I think I'm going to need help will be in determining what's important enough to mention and what isn't. For example, in the last section, I'm omitting Dakar, Gabon, the French-Thai War, and some of the actions in the Battle of the Atlantic. If you think I'm not putting in something that should be there, or vice-versa, I'd appreciative it being pointed out. Oberiko 14:15, 8 October 2007 (UTC)

My own notes:

[edit] Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates/Attack on carrier USS Franklin
Your Featured picture candidate has been promoted
Your nomination for featured picture status, Image:Attack on carrier USS Franklin 19 March 1945.jpg, gained a consensus of support, and has been promoted. If you would like to nominate another image, please do so at Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates. MER-C 04:17, 9 October 2007 (UTC)
Yes, yep, oh yeah! I knew it would pass... A shame if it wouldn't! Regards, --Dna-Dennis 11:44, 9 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] AfD

Per you edits to World War II, please consider cmmenting at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Axis plans for invasion of the United States during WWII. -- Jreferee t/c 06:39, 9 October 2007 (UTC)

Done. Thanks. --Dna-Dennis 11:42, 9 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] How many Ukrainians were killed during the Holocaust?

Hi Dennis According to Soviet sources listed in Erlikman 6,850,000 Ukrainians died in the war including soldiers and civilians. These losses are for the entire territory of the USSR including territories annexed in 1939-40[3,20-21] I have a detailed breakout of the 6,850,000 in the book by Erlikman. I will give you the details when I get home from TaeKwando class this evening. They are in an Excel spreadsheet with the details of Erlikmans figures for each Soviet Republic. The key point to remember that Erlikmans numbers include 3 million dead in the annexed territories including 1.5 million Jews . Ukrainian losses were about 5.3 million in 1939 borders. Total USSR Jewish losses in the 1946-91 borders were about 2.5 million. Total Soviet dead were 26.6 million including 3 million in the annexed territories.--Woogie10w 17:17, 10 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Holocaust deaths

I have an Excel spreadsheet for you--Woogie10w 00:46, 11 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Thanks

Thanks for the kind words about the Franklin pic. A bit of nostalgia there, the original upload goes back to the days before image resizing, so it was actually one of a pair, the other being thumbnail-sized (thus the rationale for adding width to the name). Nice to know we have a hi-res one now! Stan 17:41, 16 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] CV13

Thanks for relinking this for me. :) Wallie 09:38, 18 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] WWII casualties picture

Howdy Dna, that's a great picture of World War II casualties you made, very clean and concise. Good work! Oberiko 15:50, 25 October 2007 (UTC)

Thanks a lot, Oberiko! --Dna-Dennis 15:08, 3 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] image: ww2 deaths by country

it`s mildly insulting that you left Canada, Australia and NZ off your chart. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 125.175.66.94 (talk) 10:24, 4 November 2007 (UTC)

Hello, a great chart you have made, but since you already have Latvia and Lithuania on it, why did you leave out Estonia? H2ppyme 17:37, 1 December 2007 (UTC)
Hello everybody. Every country can not be listed in the image; a line has to be drawn somewhere. If that insults some people, sorry - it's a layout issue. For a complete listing users are easily directed to World War II casualties. Regards, --Dna-Dennis 14:59, 3 December 2007 (UTC)
Agree, but the line shouldn't be drawn somewhere between Estonia, Latvia and Lithuania. I totally agree when you remove Latvia and Lithuania from the image, after all they were neutral countries. H2ppyme (talk) 14:54, 9 December 2007 (UTC)
I thought I might as well explain in more detail why the chart looks like it does, and why neither Estonia, Canada, Australia nor New Zealand is present in the chart. Well, the issue is about pure statistics and layout considerations, not about which countries were what and why. If you study the chart you will see that it is designed so that the casualty numbers are sorted; the numbers (green/red) are ascending within the Allies from Latvia to the Soviet Union, and then descending within the Axis from Germany to Italy. Why? Well, the idea was to make the largest casualty numbers (Soviet Union and Germany) "meet" eachother in the chart. Due to the fact that a line has to drawn somewhere on how many countries to list, it just happens that when you sort according to total casualty numbers, the chart will include (for instance) Latvia & Lithuania and exclude (for instance) Estonia, Canada, Australia and New Zealand. If we decide to add more countries, the next one would be Ethiopia and then Netherlands, Philippines, Austria etc, and Estonia would be far down the list, in between Canada and Australia. To verify this, go to World War II casualties and sort the column "Total deaths" by clicking the arrow button in the heading. My regards, --Dna-Dennis (talk) 21:56, 9 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] WW2-Holocaust-Europe.png

This map shows the concentration camps of the 40ies with the state boarders of 2000. Thus it is unhistoric and useless and should be replaced quickly. A historical map should show the state borders of 38 and the range of the German occupation. As it looks now it says that Netherlands, France etc. have sent their Jews to Auschwitz. Darapti (commons) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.47.217.69 (talk) 09:49, 22 November 2007 (UTC)

Unhistoric and useless - I don't think so; it's a matter of taste. You suggest 1938 borders... why 1938 in particular? The Holocaust hadn't started in earnest then. Why not 1942? Nah, it's a matter of taste - I think present borders are fine, as it connects it with the present so viewers may see where the camps actually were located. And your note on Netherlands, France sending Jews. etc. Well, were not Jews deported from these (occupied) countries? My regards, --Dna-Dennis 15:07, 3 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] AfD nomination of Führer Headquarters

An article that you have been involved in editing, Führer Headquarters, has been listed for deletion. If you are interested in the deletion discussion, please participate by adding your comments at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Führer Headquarters. Thank you. Gwen Gale 09:24, 3 December 2007 (UTC)

I've commented on it. Thanks.--Dna-Dennis 15:10, 3 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Holocaust Cleanup Needed

I would like the editors of the Holocaust page to cooperate with me to clean up the section on non Jewish losses. I believe that the USHMM website should be used as guide to what is posted on that section of the page. The USHMM has credibility as a source and it is available on line for readers to verify.--Woogie10w (talk) 17:18, 5 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] New map - some ideas

Thank you for the effort so far. Your map is far superior to what it replaced. The borders issue is a bit tricky. There are 4 sets worth considering, and I think the best options will combine two of them. 1937 borders (pre-Munich). 1942 borders (maximum extent of the 3rd Reich, showing altered borders of satellite states, the General-gouvernement, the reichskomissariats, etc. 1954 borders (post-war, Soviets out of Austria). Today's borders (after fall of wall changes).


Let me throw out my thinking for your consideration. I would recommend using the height of German power in Europe (November 1942), and then modern borders.

1942.

  • Spain (neutral)
  • UK (unoccupied)
  • Sweden (neutral)
  • Switzerland (with Lichtenstein) (neutral)
  • France, occupied.
  • France, Vichy.
  • Luxembourg.
  • Belgium.
  • Netherlands.
  • Denmark.
  • Germany, including annexed territories: Scheiswig, Alsace-Lorraine, (a bit of Belgium - Malmedy and Eupen), Austria, that northern chunk of Slovenia (Carinthia/Klagenfurt), Sudentenland, a large swath of Poland including the "Warthegau" and the Bialystock district, and a bit of Lithuania around Memel
  • Norway
  • Protectorate of Bohemia (part of today's Czech Republic)
  • Slovakia (without southern areas ceded to Hungary)
  • General-gouvernement of Poland
  • Serbia (diminished)
  • Montenegro
  • Greece (without Thrace)
  • Rechskomissariat Ostland (Baltics and the parts of Poland east of the Curzon Line)
  • Reichskomissarita Ukraine
  • Big chunk of occupied Soviet Union beyond those two)
  • Finland, including parts of Karelia that are today in Russia
  • Croatia (satelite), including most of today's Croatia, without some of the coastal islands, and with today's Bosnia and the part of Serbia between the Sava and Danube Rivers)
  • Bulgaria, including much of modern Macedonia (republic), and Western Thrace.
  • Romania, shorn of Transylvania, but including Moldova (Bessarabia) and the Odessa district.
  • Hungary, including Transylvania, the southern fringe of Slovakia, and all of Ruthenia (Zakarpatsko Ukraine)
  • Italy, and under its occupation the remainder of Slovenia, part of Dalmatia, and Albania with borders extended to include part of Kosovo and the north and west parts of today's Macedonia (republic)

Colors with dashed lines could be used for 1942 (maybe one color for Germany, one for satellites/allies, one for occupied areas, one for neutral countries, one for Allies), and dotted boundaries for today? With different fonts for the 1942 and the 2007 names? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jd2718 (talk • contribs) 22:56, 8 December 2007 (UTC)

I hate scanning stuff, but if you are really stuck, I have some quite reasonable base maps. My east German Atlas zur Geschichte II has a reasonable base, but the maps are so busy they may be hard to read. But I can look for more. And then, my Cambridge Modern History Atlas has a similar base, but it's got a tad less detail. And I am sure I can find more. Still, if Europe at the height of Nazi domination is too tough, the borders from after Anschluss and before Munich might do. Those are much easier to find. Thanks for considering the options. Jd2718 (talk) 01:49, 9 December 2007 (UTC)
Thanks for your message and sorry for the delay in replying. I thought that 1938 (pre-Munich) borders would be better because they were they indicate the internationally recognised borders of the nations involved in the conflict at the time that events started seriously to unfold, so the viewer gets a sense of the national borders that were being contested. Paul B (talk) 02:44, 9 December 2007 (UTC)
I probably won't send you anything, then. I have quite a few atlases, including both historical atlases and contemporary atlases from decades ago. I don't know if your interest extends to atlases. Perhaps my favorite is a decrepit one that accompanied the Brittanica in 1943. The maps are a mishmash of pre-War and wartime boundaries, internally completely inconsistent. But it does have a coupon allowing me to get a replacement for $1 within one year of the final treaties being signed... ! One prize is a 1938, pre-Munich large folded map (German) on stiff paper. I should take steps to conserve that, but it is in very good condition. You may find The Peace Atlas of Europe (1946, The Foreign Policy Association) of interest. The whole book is there, you can turn the pages. The quality of the maps is not so high, but, well, you'll see. Gilbert's Atlas of the Holocaust has horrible maps. My east German Historical Atlas - if you can find a copy, do. It's textbook how to put too much onto a map. Data overload. But, if you like that stuff, the density of information is incredible. Perhaps I will scan you one from there. Oh, and if you don't have a copy of the New Cambridge Modern History Atlas, and indeed are interested in historical atlases, that's one to get. No text, just 3-400 maps. Jd2718 (talk) 23:43, 9 December 2007 (UTC)

FYI, all, - I am working on a new map, but it will still take some time. It's a little tricky, this stuff...(but I knew it would be). Jd2718's notes above were (and are) a great support. Regards, --Dna-Dennis (talk) 04:34, 15 December 2007 (UTC)

The new map does not color the two chunks of 'Prussia' with the rest of Germany. Jd2718 (talk) 12:11, 17 December 2007 (UTC)
Denis, the eastern border of Germany is post war and does reflect the actual stitution in 1942. Sorry to put you to work again!--Woogie10w (talk) 17:28, 17 December 2007 (UTC) (copied here by Dna-Dennis from Talk:The Holocaust).
Also, I noticed that Luxembourg and Belgian Morsent was not in Germany--Woogie10w (talk) 18:25, 17 December 2007 (UTC) (copied here by Dna-Dennis from Talk:The Holocaust).
If you consult the map of Greater Germany, already in the article, you may find some helpful details. Jd2718 (talk) 16:53, 19 December 2007 (UTC)
(Damn it, you did it again, Jd2718! Edit conflict on my talk page - you move with the speed of lightning, man!)
Thanks man, I actually did that before I started the new map. The prob was/is that I consulted other maps of Great Germany as well, and there were geographical (probably unintented "illusionary") differences and some factual differences (due to year used). Nevertheless, errors sneaked into my map, which you've noticed, and I have addressed them. Thanks again! --Dna-Dennis (talk) 01:03, 20 December 2007 (UTC)

Thanks very much, Jd2718 and Woogie10w! You were both quite correct on everything you mentioned, and I have updated the map accordingly. Furthermore, I noticed that my (Poland) Generalgouvernement-borders were significantly wrong, and this has been corrected. Also, if anyone has time/opinions; there were more camps in SE Europe, and there is some space on the map for more. Does anyone know if some more camps are worth including in particular? Examples (maps from USHMM):

And, of course, further corrections/suggestions are happily received. Regards, --Dna-Dennis (talk) 17:08, 19 December 2007 (UTC)

I hate to be picky, but the Polish corridor was annexed by Germany. Must run, working on a Tax audit at work--Woogie10w (talk) 17:37, 19 December 2007 (UTC)
Well, if an accountant ain't picky, he's in the wrong business, eh? And I like that you're picky, in fact you probably solved a grave misunderstanding of mine; I started to get seriously confused, since most maps I consulted did not include the Polish corridor. But, alas, my brain had fooled me (since most maps described pre-Sep'39). Therefore I guess I misunderstood Jd2718 before as well, he probably meant to color the entire West Prussia & Wartheland dark green... I will now do so, and upload a new map in approx. 1 hour. Thanks again! --Dna-Dennis (talk) 01:43, 20 December 2007 (UTC)

Hi could you either change colours to distinguish collaborating countries from occupied ones ? Or at least label countries occupied German name(occupied XXX). It would avoid the impression that they were collaborating.Ah, and also General Gouvernment was always called General Gouvernment by Germans, they avoided the name Poland in documents like fire.--Molobo (talk) 01:50, 20 December 2007 (UTC) Here are two maps that might be helpfull: [1] [2] --Molobo (talk) 02:00, 20 December 2007 (UTC)

Hi Molobo, thanks for your message! I have downloaded your examples (but I already had similar maps available, but thanks). First of all, which map do you refer to: HC map (1942 borders) or HC map (present 2007 borders)? Furthermore, the question of occupied/collaborating is not an easy one. But I understand your concern, and I did think about it before I started making the map. The problem is that the cases are not clear-cut. Every country had its unique relationship to the Axis. But do you have any suggestions on which regions/countries should be distinguished/colored in another way? Regards, --Dna-Dennis (talk) 02:15, 20 December 2007 (UTC)
Hey, I actually found a simple yet AFAIK correct solution to this question; why did I use the "cooperating"-label at all? In 1942, as far as I recall, all lightgreen regions were occupied, with the sole exception of Vichy France, to which I've now added the label "(Unoccupied)". Good, or? --Dna-Dennis (talk) 03:50, 20 December 2007 (UTC)
Notice Current versions:
HC map (1942 borders)
HC map (present 2007 borders)

[edit] Thanks

Hi Dna-Dennis, thank you for your message, I'm happy you like my work.
Merry Christmas! --LucaG (talk) 12:51, 22 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Re: Note

Howdy Dna. No worries, I've been preoccupied with matters outside Wiki for awhile myself as well. Thanks for the assistance thus far already though, it was a large help. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Oberiko (talk • contribs) 12:38, 24 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Reich Chancellery contribution.

Hello i am an australian student currently studying The Propaganda Ministry of Nazi Germany. In widely searching through Wikipedias files i came across a pictorical contribution of yours- it is a map that details where the ministry is in proximinatey to the Reich Chancellery. I was just wondering if you could please provide me with the details as to where you found this image (Image:FuehrerBunkerBerlinLocation.jpg) as it is very useful to my paper.

Your efforts are much appreciated. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 121.44.70.180 (talk) 08:42, 30 January 2008 (UTC)

Hello back! Well, I did not find the image; I did it myself. The base map (as described in my image references) is a very small extract from this map: Allied Intelligence Map of Key Buildings in Berlin (3rd edition, 1945), which I only have in real analog format (i.e. paper). But I suppose it can be ordered from somewhere; if you're interested I recommend it - it is a big map - almost a square meter depicting Berlin 1945 with a WEALTH of information on MANY key buildings, incl. the Propaganda Ministry. Current maps are no good here, since the layout of those parts of Berlin looks significantly different today. I guess the map costs about 10 US$. Either go to a really good bookstore and ask them (preferrably one who specifically deals with history), or you can try emailing to "After The Battle" (weblink: After The Battle home), since they have published it (even though I can't find it on their homepage). Hope this helps, if you have more questions, don't be afraid to ask. And remember, you may use my image, as long as you attribute it to me. Regards, --Dna-Dennis (talk) 09:22, 30 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Copyright help needed

Denis, I need your help. Somebody put a tag on the photo "Lamenting the Dead" It is in the public domain according to Wiki Media[3]. How to I fix this? I don't want the photo deleted.--Woogie10w (talk) 02:04, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

Hi Denis, user Madness 500 put a delete on 2/16/08 tag on the picture( see WW2 Casualties history) I reverted this edit because Wikimedia says this material in in the public domain. My knowledge of Wikimedia is limited--Woogie10w (talk) 17:41, 13 February 2008 (UTC)
Tech is amazing, I remember the days when you had to wait 10 minuets to get a phone line to call Europe. My mom visited Germany in 1938 and it took over a week to cross the ocean(she took a neat photo of Hitler!) In 1980 when she revisited Berlin and could not recognize the city! Cheers, Barney--Woogie10w (talk) 18:01, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Being selective

I've seen this done, but haven't figured out how, so I'm hoping you can explain. I wanted to link to a particular (past) version of a page edit, to demonstrate exactly what edit I mean. How can I do it? Trekphiler (talk) 19:47, 23 March 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for the help, & no worries on the delay. I've been ignorant of this so long, a day or two doesn't matter. A (more) belated Happy Easter right back. Trekphiler (talk) 13:19, 25 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] image of obliquity

Hi, I tried using this great image you made about earth's obliquity, and someone deleted saying I didn't provide an authors real name. Is Dennis only your first name? Thanks! 24.8.147.6 (talk) 07:59, 11 April 2008 (UTC)

Hi man! Use the name info under the section "Licensing" on the image page Image:AxialTiltObliquity.png. Regards, --Dna-Dennis (talk) 20:16, 11 April 2008 (UTC)


[edit] WWI Title picture

Hi,
Is there any particular reason why the WWI title picture does not include a single scene from the Eastern Front?--168.156.89.193 (talk) 22:07, 15 April 2008 (UTC)

No, no particular reason. And yes - it was not about fronts, theaters or nations. It was about aspects; in this case an anonymous main picture of a devastated landscape, a biplane representing the air warfare, a trench pic which includes the new industrial types of warfare (machineguns and posion gas), a tank representing armored weapons development and, last, a naval pic representing warfare at sea. Regards, --Dna-Dennis (talk) 12:51, 24 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] New Chart WW2 casualties talk page

A user just worked up a new chart for WW2 casualties, take a look and see if it can be uploaded to the page.--Woogie10w (talk) 12:56, 23 April 2008 (UTC)

Sorry, got some problems with my internet connection at the moment (no internet), I can't do much wikistuff at this point, got to get back to this later. Regards, --Dna-Dennis (talk) 12:54, 24 April 2008 (UTC)

Hi,

I'm copying the axial tilt image & making it french!

hope that's cool

cheers mate & thanks! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Daelomin (talk • contribs) 13:37, 14 June 2008 (UTC)