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  • HMCS Prince David was an Armed Merchant Cruiser ... does this qualify for inclusion here? 15:42, 25 May 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] By another name

Was Von Steuben more correctly classed "USNS", as controlled by USN but actually operated by civilians? Or does that postdate that era? Also, a pet peeve: the "HMS", "USS", &c shouldn't strictly be in the links; contrary to U.S. media, it's not actually part of the name...

[edit] You're history

The lists start with the Sp-Am War, but shouldn't CSN raiders be included? They operated much the same way. Trekphiler 10:10, 4 October 2006 (UTC)

Personally I'd say yes and include CSS Shenandoah and her brethren however I'd go back even farther, and say they all belong to the Privateering tradition.KTo288 19:56, 15 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Title

Can we get this moved to Armed merchant cruiser? "Merchantmen" is horribly archaic and cruiser better describes their fighting capabilities. Grant65 | Talk 02:07, 20 November 2006 (UTC)

I don't think its archaic, but than again armed merchantmen is what I've grown up with. However I've just added short section from age of sail so maybe I'm archaic. To meArmed merchant cruiser were ships equipped to go after other merchantmen i.e. auxiliary warships and this becomes the primary goal, armed merchantmen are merchantmen which have been armed to better protect themselves, their primary purpose remains to move goods not to fight.KTo288 09:27, 15 August 2007 (UTC)
If that's the case, Armed merchant cruiser should not redirect to this article. Grant | Talk 10:53, 15 August 2007 (UTC)
I guess its as good a place as any, and semantically makes sense, I don't know if its official policy, but for me redirects should aid navigation for casual users; and someone looking for Armed merchant cruiser but not knowing they were called that, would possibly be using search terms such as armed civilian ships, and yes armed merchantmen KTo288 19:51, 15 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Atlantic Conveyer

What would the consensus be about including such ships as RFA Argus (A135) and Atlantic Conveyer.KTo288 09:27, 15 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Armed merchantmen vs Merchant raider

If I understand this correctly, the former are armed for defensive purposes, while the latter for offensive. Anyone know anything different? Socrates2008 (Talk) 13:08, 17 March 2008 (UTC)

May I invite your attention to the Armed Merchant Ship discussion under Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Ships? I shared your perception that this article (from its title) addressed the former category rather than the latter. In fact, this article focuses on auxiliary cruisers (used either for defensive patrol or offensive raiding); so I created the Defensively Equipped Merchant Ships article to address the former category. Thewellman (talk) 16:26, 17 March 2008 (UTC)