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[edit] Portland Terminal Company

Do you have any sources for this article? I changed it enough to survive WP:CSD, but if you want it to stay you are going to need to provide sources. These sources can be linked to the article if they are on the internet, or you could list the title of books on the article's page. Please let me know. KnightLago 02:34, 2 December 2007 (UTC)

Sorry - got pulled away before I got to listing the references - they are available now. Thewellman 06:00, 2 December 2007 (UTC)

No problem. KnightLago 14:18, 2 December 2007 (UTC)

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Thanks for everything you've contributed about the articles on the Petaluma & Santa Rosa and the Northwestern Pacific. I enjoyed your account of the "Battle of Sebastopol Road," even though I'd heard about it before. Keep up the good work! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Stepheng3 (talk • contribs) 01:36, 17 December 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] North Atlantic convoys

Hello
I see you have been writing pages on north atlantic convoys; very good! (I’ve had them on my guilt list for a while now; I didn’t know anyone else was interested.)
Can I suggest you look at some of the other convoy pages , for format, style etc? Can I also suggest you look at CLay Blairs work on the Battle of the Atlantic?; it has a lot more detail that Rohwer.
Which ones are you working on? Did you have a particular angle you wanted to pursue?
I am just composing HG 76, and was planning to do ONS18/ON202, and ON 206 after that.
Xyl 54 (talk) 12:28, 8 March 2008 (UTC)

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Thanks for your reply: Sorry for not replying sooner; I don’t have a computer, so I’m using public access computers mostly. (I’ve got more on paper than I have on Word, at present)

.1) I can understand your concerns about the infoboxes; I’m not exactly an expert, so I don’t know if there are any guidelines anywhere. I can see it’s useful to have a thumbnail sketch/overview of the subject, and if the issues raised are expanded in the article then I think it’s enough to be consistent between the various articles.

So I’d go for consistency with other convoy pages; the standard seems to be:-

Date: from first contact to when an attack was called off (with the start and end dates in the text)

Result: Yes, tricky; I’d go with the majority of commentators; any qualification can go in the articles conclusion

Belligerent: to avoid a whole list, covering every nationality of every ship, I’d be inclined to put the flag of the escort group (again, a break-down of ships involved would be in the text. I’ve wondered if a table would be useful, but would probably link to the u.boat.net page for laziness).

Commander: Donitz for the Axis seems appropriate, as wolf-packs were mostly micro-managed from Kerneval; for the Allies the Commodore and Escort Group commander should probably both be there.

Strength: I’d go for total numbers; again, the comings and goings would be in the text.

Casualties: True, sources like Hague only list the convoy losses, but I think stragglers need to be included to give a truer picture.

.2) Blair has a point of view, I agree ( he doesn’t like the British much!) but his factual content is fairly sound. As for non-neutrality, I would probably say the same about u-boat.net ( though it’s better than some of the sites on the subject). I think non-neutral sources are OK if they are balanced against each other, and read critically. And I’m inclined to agree with him on myth aspect of the campaigns history; it squares with the numbers. I haven't come across anything by him called Battle of the Atlantic, though.

.3) My interest in the subject here is to have an article on all the main convoy actions (I’m also working on a list page) But I want to include those actions (like SC 130) where there were major u-boat losses but few, or no, ship losses; most sources have a ready-made list of the one, but not the other (non-neutrality?)

.4)Are you interested in escort tactics as well then? (another item on my guilt list!) Have you read Mark Williams book on Gilbert Roberts and the Anti-UBoat School? It has descriptions of a number of the procedures (Artichoke, Raspberry, Beta-Search etc) and how the school worked. There’s some similar stuff in Michael Gannons book on Black May as well.

Good talking to you! What were you working on next? Xyl 54 (talk) 17:51, 10 March 2008 (UTC)

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Food for thought; I don’t disagree; but I ‘ll need to reply to that later on.

I had a suggestion for formatting , but it’s easier to show than to tell, so I’ve taken the liberty of re-formatting your page on Convoy SC-104. If you aren’t happy about it, please revert it; but I’m hoping it’s OK with you.

The revision histories will show what I’ve done, but I’ve
.a) split it into sections
.b) moved some of the ship information to a table of losses, and made a table for the U-boat losses as well
.c) added an infobox
.d) added some text, to round out the narrative. I’ve taken the text from Blair; again, if you had different things you wanted to say, then please change it.
Xyl 54 (talk) 15:33, 13 March 2008 (UTC)

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Thanks; I was concerned I’d be stepping on your toes.
I left some questions on the SC 104 talk page that were specific to the article; I don’t know if you saw them or have the answers.
There is a copy of Showell’s Wolf Pack book in the library, but I won’t be able to look at it till next week.
Regards
Xyl 54 (talk) 16:58, 14 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] FYI

I requested your page renaming to be reverted. Geo Swan (talk) 12:37, 18 March 2008 (UTC)

Yipes! I wasn't paying attention. I meant to leave a FYI on the pages of the contributor who renamed the page. Thanks for the tactful heads-up. I'll get the right name this time.
Cheers! Geo Swan (talk) 16:25, 18 March 2008 (UTC)

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