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[edit] No picture?

I think a picture here would be useful, and I'm not sure how that slipped by... —The preceding unsigned comment was added by TSchellhous (talk • contribs) 22:01, 5 December 2006 (UTC).

There is a picture on Wikimedia commons ([[1]]) but it will be deleted by midnight tonight (I'm writing 5 October) if there is still no copyright. Can anyone find any? --Gazco 19:51, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Unspecified cover

I found a cover Abba's "Gimme Gimme Gimme" by Malmsteen but when searching through the records i have not found this mentioned anywhere here is the link [2] —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.177.37.202 (talk) 18:25, 29 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Americanized name?

I don't understand how changing the spelling of his name constitutes "Americanization". If the change was intended so that it would be easier to read/pronounce/spell in the English speaking world then that is called "Anglicisation". The former is a term used to describe the influence the USA has on the culture of other countries which does not apply in this case in any way that I can see, whereas the latter term may be reasonably applied here - I quote from its page "The term most often refers to the process of translating words or phrases into an English equivalent." For instance, München is Anglicised - not Americanised - to Munich.

I don't wish to reignite yet another debate about how Americans and others use "American" where they actually should use "English" (I recall visiting a website recently where I had the option of reading the text in French, Spanish or American - complete with small Stars 'n' Stripes flag!!) but this does appear to be such a case of incorrect usage: any comments or opinions? Delsource (talk) 14:10, 24 January 2007 (UTC)

I completely agree with the above. I live in Canada. I speak English, not American. "Anglicisation" would be the correct term. --Idjit 16:08, 24 January 2007 (UTC)

I understand the argument regarding "Americanization" vs. "Anglicization" regarding Yngwie's name; no problem there. However, in reference to the website mentioned by Delsource, was the English translation by any chance written using American English? There is a definite difference between British English and American English, however subtle. I would never symbolize anything I've written with a British flag (or a Canadian one, for that matter), not because I'm a self-absorbed American, but because I don't adhere to British conventions of spelling, punctuation and usage. It would simply be misleading and incorrect. On the other hand, I can understand your annoyance at the usage of plain "American" to describe the translation. I also find the usage of the term "American" to be somewhat irksome, as it implies that I speak another language altogether ("I wish he'd just speak English! I don't understand American at all!")intooblv 08:13, 10 February 2007 (UTC)

I second the motion, "Anglicisation" should be used instead of "Americanization". Although I do have a question: How would the change to "Yngwie" would help to pronounce the name, it still leads to a wrong pronunciation in the english speaking world. --SANAFABICH (talk) 17:20, 6 December 2007 (UTC)

I am an American, (and proud of it) I speak "American", as do all Canadians, most times I can't even understand "British" English. This is the point where the problem may be, we all speak English, it's just the vernacular that may be different, I don't mean to upset My neighbors to the north, but I felt this was a point I needed to Make. Why does it matter now why he changed the spelling of his name, he is the hottest guitarist ever. Signed "Trash" 01/05/2008.68.21.245.236 (talk) 20:32, 5 January 2008 (UTC)

???Canadians do not use American spelling unless it's in correspondence with an American. American spelling and grammar is fairly common in Southern Ontario. But the rest of the country uses proper International English grammar and spelling. 156.34.212.152 (talk) 20:43, 5 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Yngwie's heritage

Is he jewish? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 130.194.13.105 (talk) 06:45, 7 February 2007 (UTC).

No way... he doesn't follow any religion, but he's got a cross on a chain on his hand.

[edit] Yngwie Parodies

I think someone should add a section that talks about the amount of parodies he has on the internet and why youtube is full of videos making fun of him. Avyfain 05:56, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

That would just end up being unreferenced original research. Also far from encyclopedic. 156.34.223.200 10:14, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

i think something should be added about the time yngwie fought godzilla, if my memory serves me well, the entire earth was destroyed.--Meetwad 11:23, 12 April 2007 (UTC)

Very interesting if true. Someoneinmyheadbutit'snotme 01:28, 23 August 2007 (UTC)

Those parodies have been deleted due to a claim by "Malmsteen Management." What an ass, he can't even take a joke. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.208.171.133 (talk) 03:03, 1 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Made slight changes in 1990s section regarding Malmsteen arrest

I removed the word "falsely" from this sentence: "In 1993, Malmsteen's mother-in-law, who was opposed to his engagement with her daughter, had him arrested for threatening her with a shotgun and holding her daughter against her will [1]."

I decided to do so because it wrongly contrasted with the last sentence of the paragraph (which I also reworded a little bit so that context and clarity could be at their optimum) making it seem as though Malmsteen had denied that he had been falsely accused of the crime but the charges were dropped. That is why I changed what I did in the 1990s section.

Have a good day.Trevbork 05:41, 15 April 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Initial in article name?

Is there any particular reason that the article is named "Yngwie J. Malmsteen" rather than just "Yngwie Malmsteen"? I can't remember the last time I saw an article name that used a middle initial. f(x)=ax²+bx+c 22:40, 31 May 2007 (UTC)

The guitarist himself has always used his middle intitial throughout his career. I think it was, as Spinal Tap put it, so that he wouldn't be confused with all the other guitar playing Yngwie Malmsteens in the World. 156.34.235.195 23:59, 31 May 2007 (UTC)

It looks like you're right. I'd never noticed that. I usually see him referred to without the initial. Anyway, if that's the way he prefers it, I guess there's no reason to change it. f(x)=ax²+bx+c 04:56, 1 June 2007 (UTC)

I've moved the article. There's no reason why the page name should have the initial. The name he's known by should be used over his idiosyncratic preference. Besides, it'll only confuse people into thinking there's someone else out there to confuse him with--which, as everyone knows, is ridiculous and unfit for an encyclopedia. Grim-Gym 05:36, 8 August 2007 (UTC)

But Yngwie J. Malmsteen is the name he's known by. =/ Why do you insist on meddling with something that should be left well alone? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Django5 (talk • contribs) 20:57, 6 November 2007 (UTC)

We need to do this to the Michael J. Fox and George W. Bush articles.90.135.63.40 (talk) 22:39, 13 March 2008 (UTC)

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[edit] POV

This article is rife with biased statements such as: "Widely recognised for his guitar skills, Malmsteen achieved widespread acclaim in the 1980s for his technical proficiency and his pioneering of the shred guitar technique, and neo-classical metal genre." Other examples abound and this article needs to be rewritten for neutrality. Grim-Gym 04:31, 6 August 2007 (UTC)

Not to be a prick or anything, but it could be that he is widely recognized for his skill. Pretty silly article to get all anal about NPOV on. 76.111.92.66 15:17, 28 August 2007 (UTC)

I have to side with the article as it stands. He IS widely recognized for that stuff, and he DID pioneer shred guitar and neo-classical. NPOV is not applicable here, since the claims are true and not misrepresented. 11.ninjas 19:32, 1 September 2007 (UTC)

Well, if he is "widely" recognized for various things, then you need to cite who thinks that and say that they think that. It lacks neutrality to imply that the vast majority of the general population think this. Furthermore, there are also many other POV statements in the article—I just named a few at random. Grim-Gym 08:32, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

Grim-Gym, he is "widely recognized" as long as all interviewed subjects are 15-25 years old metal fans :D 81.96.125.240 17:05, 28 October 2007 (UTC)

Grim-Gym, I think it's pretty evident if you read interviews with technically proficient guitarists from the 80s and even today that all of them reference malmsteen as an inspiration at some point. 76.211.234.146 01:58, 16 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Lots of tiny edits. AND I also have a couple other editing questions.

List of edits:

(I changed only material inside the "Early Life" section.)

a. Added June 30, 1963 for quick birthday reference.

       b. Altered June 30 and 1963 into hyperlinks so one may link out of the                              
       Yngwie article into the entry of June 30 and/or 1963.

       c. Changed "musical family" into "musically talented family" as this 
       makes more sense and is more professional.

       d. Added Sweden to clarify where Stockholm was located.

       e. Altered Sweden to allow a user to link out of the Yngwie article and 
       into an article about Sweden.

       f. Altered Jimi Hendrix to allow a user to link out of the Yngwie 
       article and into an article about Jimi Hendrix.

       g. Added music after "classical" in the third paragraph to clarify that 
       classical was describing music and not an abstract concept 
       ("influence").

       h. Removed the ability for someone to link out of the Yngwie article on 
       the third entry of the phrase "Jimi Hendrix" because there is already a 
       "Jimi Hendrix" that links out to the article about Jimi Hendrix.

       i. Changed "not widely used" (in the fourth paragraph of "The Early 
       Life") into "that are less common"

[edit] The other editing questions

1. In reference to the first and second sentences of the second paragraph of the article, does anyone or does the majority of people discussing this page find it to be practical, accurate, and neutral to change:

"Widely recognised for his guitar skills, Malmsteen achieved widespread acclaim in the 1980s for his technical proficiency and his pioneering of the shred guitar technique, and neo-classical metal genre."

"Malmsteen is best known for his ability to play the guitar and for his contribution to the neo-classical metal genre. Malmsteen was able to take certain techniques and sounds of traditional orchestral and classical concertos and combine them with the rapid and up-tempo speeds of 1980s heavy metal using a technique called 'shredding'. This playing technique is known to have originated from the 1980s and many consider Malmsteen one of the first heavy metal musicians to utilize this technique."

Trevbork 21:32, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

The proposed alternate version is unreferenced and, in many cases, wrong. "Shredding" was in existence long before the 1980s. In the 70s a 15 year old Shawn Lane was "out-shredding" any/all of the known shredders to emerge in the 80s. Jazz and Bluegrass guitarists have been shredding for decades. No original research without verifiable references from Reliable sources. 156.34.230.90 21:00, 17 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Yngwie J. Malmsteen's Rising Force

Shouldn't Yngwie J. Malmsteen's Rising Force (the group, not the solo album) be mentioned somewhere here, such as the relation between albums released under the name "Yngwie J. Malmsteen's Rising Force" and Yngwie, himself? From someone who's only heard a little of Yngwie's music, the whole situation is very confusing, with releases such as Rising Force being attributed to both Yngwie Malmsteen and Yngwie J. Malmsteen's Rising Force. -- Christopher C. Parker ^{t c} 15:41, 8 October 2007 (UTC)

They're separated out on MusicBrainz, so I'm assuming they're separate entities: Yngwie Malmsteen and Yngwie J. Malmsteen's Rising Force. -- Christopher C. Parker ^{t c} 15:44, 8 October 2007 (UTC)

If anybody has any more information on the band's line-up history, go ahead and fix any errors you see in the article. I made the table based on the list of former members that I replaced in the article, and figured out the years from the album articles. I had to guess on a lot of them, though, so I'm sure there's a few errors here and there.

--Rock Soldier (talk) 18:47, 16 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] lbum

Why this album you name it 'The Seventh Sign"? Ii is related to some unseen force in the sky ? —Preceding unsigned comment added by RiezaL7 (talk • contribs) 14:16, 22 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Specialised vs. Specialized

Hi! I'm not English but I don't think Specialised is the correct term. isn't it? Regards from Basqueland. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Gorasiberia (talk • contribs) 20:41, 19 November 2007 (UTC)

Read WP:ENGVAR. Unless the subject is from the United States then the article uses proper international English spelling and grammar. 156.34.212.152 (talk) 20:43, 5 January 2008 (UTC)

That's not quite correct. The article was created in British/Commonwealth English, so that's what is used throughout. There is no preference for one over the other, especially in Yngwie's case where there is no "Swedish English" dialect to use. So long as the article is consistent, and there is no strong national tie to a particular variety, either type is acceptable. It's strongly frowned upon to change an article from one variety to another once it's established though. Lankiveil (talk) 02:20, 6 January 2008 (UTC).

[edit] Yngwie's violence.

"In 1993, Malmsteen's mother-in-law, who was opposed to his engagement with her daughter, had him arrested for threatening her with a shotgun and holding her daughter against her will. The charges against Malmsteen were dropped when he denied the incident."

I don't disbelieve this at all. I knew someone who dated Yngwie, he threatened to kill her with a handgun if she wouldn't get an abortion. This was late '80s or possibly early '90s. Also there was some incident that apparently got local media coverage about him breaking the jaw of his next girlfriend after her and this girl needing to get her jaw wired shut. It was covered in the local news on some level as I understand it and might be able to be included if someone has any access to Miami area publication archives of around the time. This kind of information needs to come to light to some level, as many "fans" I've spoken to don't know these aspects of him. He apparently liked getting into bar fights, had a passing interesting vexillology, and liked calling things or people of great scope "the big cheese". 67.5.157.8 (talk) 04:22, 28 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Seventh Sign Album

I bought this album on year 1993 and I really enjoyed it.Here I have a question for you master Malmsteen,can you singing and played guitar at the same time? —Preceding unsigned comment added by RiezaL7 (talk • contribs) 15:47, 4 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Harmonic minor?

Actually, Yngwie far more often uses Phrygian Dominant than Harmonic minor. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.231.32.89 (talk) 12:19, 18 February 2008 (UTC)

That's subjective actually, it all depends on where the home key is, the Phrygian Dominant is essentially the same as the Harmonic Minor, just a different mode.86.151.167.175 (talk) 20:13, 18 February 2008 (UTC)AdamD

Well, no offense, but the minor scale is essentially the same as the major scale, just a different mode, but they certainly are different. 90.231.32.89 (talk) 22:43, 18 February 2008 (UTC)