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[edit] How broad is the scope of this project?
I know this project is focused on "guitarists" but it seems to include the subset of guitar makes and models. My question is do broader guitar related article like Guitar, Luthier, resonator guitar, articles about playing styles and genres etc. fall under our scope? Should those article be covered under the Wikipedia:WikiProject Musical Instruments? Just wondering. Darrell Wheeler (talk) 07:11, 26 December 2007 (UTC)
- My view is that any article that would be of interest to guitarists is within our scope. There is also no reason that multiple projects can't work on an article. I think we started the guitar equipment task force because a lot of people who joined this project also were interested in working on articles about guitars, amps, etc. Unfortunately we do not have the active membership to pay proper attention to even a small fraction of guitarist and guitar articles here, but if you think something could benefit from another project member's attention, feel free to tag it with out project banner. --Spike Wilbury ♫ talk 14:34, 26 December 2007 (UTC)
[edit] What about bass guitarists?
I edit/tag articles about musicians frequently and have added the project banner to various talk pages. I wonder if bass guitarists are within the project scope automatically, too. BNutzer (talk) 00:07, 3 February 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Fender stratocaster ultra
Hi, would you have a look at the new(ish) article Fender stratocaster ultra please? I'm not sure if it's the same guitar as Strat Ultra. Cheers, --Malcolmxl5 (talk) 20:36, 28 December 2007 (UTC)
- They are the same instrument. I believe the official correct name is Stratocaster Ultra. If you have time, can you move and merge the contents? --Spike Wilbury ♫ talk 20:57, 28 December 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Question
Shouldn't Mark III (guitar) be moved to the proper article name "Vox Mark III". Just wondering? 156.34.239.197 (talk) 22:52, 1 January 2008 (UTC)
- Yeah, it should. If you click the "what links here" link for that page, it is a mess of redirects and alternate titles all linking to that page. I will go ahead and move it and fix the redirects. And... why don't you create an account so everyone can contact you more easily? --Spike Wilbury ♫ talk 16:31, 7 January 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Guitar manufacturer pages
I am going to cross-post this to the Equipment task force talk page, but editor Anger22 recently brought up the fact that many of the articles we have for individual guitar models are completely inane and almost empty. A lot of them have 1-2 sentences and an infobox. Please, do not create all these articles if you have no intention of fleshing them out. If you spot them, merge any useful content into the main article for that manufacturer and redirect the article.
A good example is the article ESP LTD H-1000. Redirect to ESP Guitars. --Spike Wilbury ♫ talk 15:24, 11 January 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Al Casey
Are the articles Al Casey (pop guitarist) and Al Casey (rockabilly) about the same person, about two different people who happen to have exactly the same birth and death dates, or about two different people whose details have been mixed up? --Paul A (talk) 05:29, 15 January 2008 (UTC)
- Same. --Spike Wilbury ♫ talk 21:12, 18 January 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Collaboration?
I'm starting the (painful) process of copyediting the Eric Clapton article. I think we can get it up to FA. It needs a lot of help.. there are preposterous POV statements and random nonsense peppered all over the article. Also, if someone is experienced with citation styles, the citations and sources really need to be cleaned up, put in proper {{cite}} templates, etc.
Let's all jump in and get it done, eh? --Spike Wilbury ♫ talk 21:22, 18 January 2008 (UTC)
- When you quickly browse that article it doesn't seem to bad. When you really dig deep into it and go line for line it really jumps out just how much work it needs. Some of it is OK. But the poor article is peppered with soap opera, drama and fine details about other people and place that have no real impact on the timeline flow for Clapton himself. I am just shaking my head on where to go for a couple of sections. Can we compile a decent 'semi-detailed' to-do list on the articles talk page. I've poked into it a couple of times but ended up losing my changes due to edit conflict. We'll have to co-ordinate and take turns. Anger22 (Talk 2 22) 01:21, 19 January 2008 (UTC)
I'm not sure it is mentioned anywhere, but can Slash be listed as having a guest appearance on Daughtry's self-titled album? He played on the track "What I Want". —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.177.191.118 (talk) 05:14, 13 April 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Problems with Mick Taylor article
Having a bit of a struggle with the Mick Taylor article. It had been reduced to a page resembling a fansite with multiple issues themost serious being POV fancruft praising and serious lack of verifiabilty with much of the content mirroring a Mick Taylor fansite page which is loaded with original research and also has very serious issues as far as reliability and verifiability. Some attempts have been made to clean the article up but it appears the fancruft editor who turned the page into a praise page in the first place has decided he prefers his version better and keep undoing any POV cleanup and deleting maintenance tags for text that requires it. One interview that has been posted as a reference, a valid ref, actually contradicts some of the content the the [cite request] tags have been placed on. Rather than remove the content altogether it was tagged for some references. But the tags keep being deleted. Some help would be nice. Thank you. 142.167.66.181 (talk) 13:45, 26 January 2008 (UTC)
[edit] More POV troubles, this time with Lonnie Mack
I was quite alarmed at how much cruft has oozed its way into this article. And I caught one of the regular editors altering referenced text to POV peacock it up to his own personal praise. If anyone has some free time. It's an article that needs to have a few dozen unreferenced adjectives removed and some genreal cleanup given. 156.34.219.91 (talk) 01:08, 29 January 2008 (UTC)
- After a quick read through, I would almost support a rewrite: Most of the article does not read like an encyclopedia entry, more like some kind of biography (lacking NPOV yes). By regular editor you mean User:Slp512? (diff example http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Lonnie_Mack&diff=186212250&oldid=186022454) Maybe convincing him to stop adding unsourced material/cruft would make the job easier. Grinder0-0 (talk) 11:01, 30 January 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Peer review
Is this project's peer review defunct? Wikipedia:WikiProject Guitarists/Peer review I added an article for request there awhile ago now, should I post a request at WP:MUSICIAN? Grinder0-0 (talk) 11:12, 30 January 2008 (UTC)
- Not sure my input would mean much but I'll have a look.Darrell Wheeler (talk) 12:03, 30 January 2008 (UTC)
- I have replied on Talk:Jeff Loomis, thank you! Grinder0-0 (talk) 15:32, 31 January 2008 (UTC)
[edit] List of guitarists from companies/genres
I would like to check with you what you think of these lists:. As far as I can see, none of the lists in that category has sources at all, what made me react was List of Rickenbacker players, 7,8Kb of unsourced linked names. See WP:NOT#DIR and WP:LIST#Listed items. What would be best, remove all unsourced entries or nominate them for deletion? Grinder0-0 (talk) 18:43, 1 February 2008 (UTC)
[edit] AfD on SRV guitars
AfD on SRV guitars. Have a look and offer an opinion. cheers, Casliber (talk · contribs) 10:18, 5 February 2008 (UTC)
[edit] an infobox question
could somebody outline (and/or point me to) the guidelines for what belongs in the "notable instrument[s]" section of the infobox? is it supposed to list the instrument[s] the player makes the most use of, or signature models even if the player very rarely uses them, or rare/unusual instruments in a players arsenal, or ... ? the question (naturally!) arises from some ongoing differences of opinion, so it would help to know what the Standard Practice is for these sections of the boxes - thanks
oh and: i've done some work on the Ronnie Wood page - i don't know if it's enough to take it off the "needs help" list, but i hope it's some improvement. Sssoul (talk) 18:45, 25 February 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Introducing myself, with questions
Hello, I've been adding text and references to guitarists of several genres, focusing primarily on those who play roots/folk music and rock music, in addition to another project here in the wikipedia that doesn't have anything to do with guitarists. I wonder if this is the place to note pages of guitarists whose pages need help? If so, here are some that I feel need more help. Someone already mentioned Mick Taylor, but also, Lowell George, and Mark Knopfler and all the members of Dire Straits come right to mind! There are a few more, but I'm not sure where to list the names of those who I feel have a high priority in getting attention. Thanks. --leahtwosaints (talk) 10:37, 29 May 2008 (UTC)
