Talk:World Figure Skating Championships

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Someone has a factual error listed at one of the World Championships: the 1996 one in Canada. They have that Ilia Kulik won the Men's Singles Gold there, and Todd Eldredge won the Silver, that is totally wrong (the true order was reversed, and this does not jive with many resources both on the internet and with Mr. Eldredge and Mr. Kulik's biography on Wikipedia). And I can prove it, via, the ISU (International Skating Union's) website. If this persist, after I change and correct again, I will deliberately have Wikipedia reported both to the ISU and the United States Figure Skating Association (USFSA) and I will ask them to see what their lawyers can do to make whoever is switching the order in those Championships for the Gold and the Silver pay for it. -- cnbpjb, 12:14, 25 February 2006

Why Icedancing is missing in this list? Is there a special list? Uwe

It's not that Uwe, it's "who's going to do all that typing?" :) --Pelladon 03:39, 6 September 2005 (UTC)

The typing was not that bad. It was anyway mostly copy and paste. However now the bios can follow. Uwe

You the man! --Pelladon 17:55, 17 November 2005 (UTC)

Contents

[edit] Page is too big

Any suggestions on how to break it down? Possibly a separate page for each event? --Pelladon 03:22, 3 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Any need for logos?

I happen to work for the company that created the logo for the 2003 event in Washington. Is there any need for the logo in this article? EVula // talk // ☯ // 17:10, 15 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Ice Dance

How can the Ice Dance table of medallists be edited? Is the source on another page? I just want to say that 1992 the medallists competed for CIS. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Stavol2 (talk • contribs) 08:23, 2 April 2007 (UTC).

You can edit it by editing the template directly. Kolindigo 15:08, 2 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Multiple spots for 2008 Worlds

I have doubts that this table is correct. Kevin van der Perrin (Belgium) did not participate in the Worlds 2007, how shall Belgium than have multiple spots for the 2008 worlds. Can anybody answer that? Uwe Langer 20:04, 8 April 2007 (UTC)

Found it. It was not Belgium it was Belarus earning two spots in the mens for 2008. Corrected it. Uwe Langer 20:11, 8 April 2007 (UTC)

Italy DOES NOT have 3 spots to World's in 2009 because they sent 2 skaters whose total exceeds 13. If Carolina Kostner were the only lady representing Italy this year, then yes, they would have 3 spots. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 160.39.255.217 (talk) 08:49, 27 March 2008 (UTC)

France should have only 2 spots to the 2009 Worlds in Men's since they finished 2nd and 18th (source: ISU.org)

Canada should have only 2 sports to the 2009 Worlds in Ice Dancing since the top 2 finishers were 2nd and 17th (source ISU.org). There's an icenetwork.com interview with Virtue/Moir that quotes this fact as well.

[edit] History

I restored changes undone by Kolindigo. The brief History is directly contradicted by James Hines, 2006, Figure Skating: A history, the only authoritative and comprehensive history of figure skating since 1959. My edits correct the errors based on Hines history. I included the only footnote on the textual content of this page. When Kolindigo undid my correction, he kept one piece from my update, the location of the first Ladies Championship, Davos. He also retained my footnote in a position that made it appear to apply to the old and contradictory material. I had deliberately created two paragraphs so there was no ambiguity, and it was clear that the footnote did not apply to the original first half which I left intact. I will be glad to stand down if Kolindigo can provide a better authoritative source for his version of Madge Sayers participation and the origin of the Ladies Championship. GeorgeDS (talk) 07:05, 19 December 2007 (UTC)

Hey. Per my edit summary, I take issue with the idea that all of this happened in the 21st century. Please check the dates you used. And thanks for the book rec, I'll pick it up from the library ASAP. :) Kolindigo (talk) 07:11, 19 December 2007 (UTC)
You are quite right. I'm so used to typing 20.. that I got all the dates wrong. I've moved them to 1903 to 1906. Are we OK now :) BTW I'm new to this and have looked all over for the edit summary which I cannot find. GeorgeDS (talk) 07:30, 19 December 2007 (UTC)

I found the "edit summary" and put a note in this time. I'm getting extremely frustrated with this. I provided the only reference/source and now people who haven't checked the entire edit history are removing my update and saying it's unsourced. If people keep removing my correction but leaving the James Hines reference, I will contact James Hines so he can take legal action for using his work as reference for material that directly contradicts him. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Georgeds (talk • contribs) 08:00, 19 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] History - Gold

I find the statement "Many, including World Champion Ulrich Salchow, believed she should have won the gold." highly questionable. There is no reference to anything like this in James Hines' history. Salchow was the reigning champion (from 1901), arguably the greatest skater of his time, invented an important jump that is still used in its original form today, and was one of the original 20 inductees into the World Figure Skating Hall of Fame. Women were then so little regarded as athletes that no one thought to make a rule against their participation. If Salchow had said anything like this, it would have been so newsworthy that it would have been included in every contemporary newspaper, magazine, and book covering the 1902 events. If true, it should be very easy to document.

The statement makes a colorful story, but that does not make it true. It is much easier to write untrue and undocumented history than to write accurate and researched history. I have now challenged this statement. As I understand Wikipedia's verifiability standard, the original author (or someone else) must provide a "reliable, published source" or this statement should be removed. GeorgeDS (talk) 19:27, 19 December 2007 (UTC)

More than a month has passed and no one has provided any support for the statement I challenged. I am removing the statement. As for the other part of the the statement, "Many," absent exit polling which was not developed for about 70 years, no one could know what the audience thought. 100 in 5000 spectators would have been "many," but quite meaningless.GeorgeDS (talk) 06:25, 24 January 2008 (UTC)