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 WikipediaWikiProject Thailand is part of WikiProject Thailand, a project to improve all Thailand-related articles. The wikiproject is also a part of the Counteracting systematic bias group on wikipedia aiming to provide a wider and more detailed coverage on countries and areas of the encyclopedia which are notably less developed than the rest. If you would like to help improve this and other Thailand-related articles, please join the project. All interested editors are welcome.
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[edit] General notices

[edit] TAT to "improve" Thailand-articles here

Just noticed it on the FACT blog [2] - the Tourism Authority of Thailand plans to edit articles about Thailand on Wikipedia and Wikitravel. While there are definitely a lot of articles in need of improving, this being done by a government agency is risky. So be VERY careful about POV edits, removal of criticism, etc. But try to do without biting them away, having them edit in accordance with our rules and style would be for our mutual interest. andy (talk) 09:17, 6 February 2008 (UTC)

It seems like the first editors are already here, see the articles on Pathum Thani, Songkhla (where they even did not read that the article is about the town, not the province) and Phetchabun Province, where I had to do a lot of copyedit and deletion of duplications already. andy (talk) 12:39, 6 February 2008 (UTC)

You did great work, Andy. Should we try contact TAT directly about the issue? --PaePae | Talk 10:57, 7 February 2008 (UTC)

Thanks. I already sent an email to TAT yesterday, expressing my concern that editors without knowledge of the Wikipedia policies paid to put tourism-brochure texts would backfire into a publicity disaster, but also offering my help in getting TAT involved in a fruitful cooperation for our mutual interest. So far no reply yet :-( As I can only write in English it might help if someone can talk to them in Thai as well. andy (talk) 11:34, 7 February 2008 (UTC)
Where did you send email to? It said to be from 'e-Marketing for Amazing Thailand 2008'[3] campaign. I will contact them at amazingthailand@tat.or.th, writing one. --PaePae | Talk 04:10, 8 February 2008 (UTC)

I saw this news as well,[4] [5] and was pretty concerned. I'm glad to see that others have noticed it, too, and are keeping a watchful eye. — WiseKwai 18:01, 7 February 2008 (UTC)

Thank you for your updated. I wonder if anyone taking care of Thai-related articles at wikitravel? I do not know any policy there. It would be good having someone familiar with wikitravel to deal with TAT together. --PaePae | Talk 04:10, 8 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Response from born Distinction

I got a reply from born Distinction. They are a consultant company responsible for 'WIKI for Thailand Tourism' project. They said the project does not start making any modification with Wikipedia nor Wikitravel yet. So those edits should not be related to TAT.

However, I had addressed that these users might be a person from the project. They said it should be misunderstood among the participants. They will propose TAT to notice them about our concerns.

They also provided schedule as below:

  1. By February 2008 - Found WIKI Working Committee.
  2. By February 2008 - Analyze and summarize what information to update and/or create.
  3. By May 2008 - Find and gather information.
  4. By July 2008 - Compile into draft version and upload to project's blog.
  5. By August 2008 - Verify draft for correctness and completeness. Modify and update into last version.
  6. By September 2008 - Publish on Wikipedia and Wikitravel.

As of now, phase 1-2-3 are in progress.

WIKI Working Committee:

  1. Tourism Authority of Thailand.
    • Information technology office.
    • Information services division.
    • Public relation division.
    • TAT local offices around Thailand.
    • Some other TAT offices in Thailand.
  2. Tourism business associations and clubs all around Thailand.
  3. Education institutes.
    • Faculty of Tourism and Hospitality Industry, Rangsit University.
    • Faculty of Arts, Chulalongkorn University.
  4. WIKIPedia User Experts.

They did sent invitation email to wiki experts writing about Thailand and got some feedbacks, almost foreigners. WIKI Mission for Thailand Tourism project will have an official press conference in March.

They are also inviting us to join the Working Committee for co-operation along the project. Anyone interested? --PaePae | Talk 08:10, 8 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Announcement from TAT

Editions on WIKIPEDIA TAT has not started editing any article on WIKIPEDIA as yet whereas the articles about 3 provinces in Thailand, Pathumthani, Songkhla and Petchabun, are not edited by TAT.

Editions with the username borndistinction is just try to find out whether how it works but has not touched any content at all.

Editions on WIKITravel TAT has edited and created new content on few articles on WIKITravel already by consulting WIKITravel expert by proving them the authority and copyright of the content from TAT. [6]--Borndistinction (talk) 08:52, 8 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Merge with WikiProject Thai provinces

Yes I would strongly recommend mergin thai provinces with the main one ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ $1,000,000? 10:13, 9 April 2008 (UTC)

If merging just means moving the project page to a subpage of the Thailand project - no problem with that, but I also don't see any real benefit of it. But that's not what I would call merge. But as most of the text on that project page is specific to the provinces, it won't fit into the Thailand project page. Besides, both the provinces and the districts make a nice separated subfield of this project, and with the new activity on the province articles by TAT (User:Borndistinction) a reactivation of the project with additional helpers would be possible. andy (talk) 20:50, 27 April 2008 (UTC)

I just mean moving it to a sub page of the project ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ $1,000,000? 12:06, 5 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Article tagging

Should Thailand articles currently tagged under WikiProject Southeast Asia be re-tagged under this project instead? It isn't clear to me whether this project is a subproject of WikiProject Southeast Asia itself, but if not, there would seem to be a great amount of overlapping scope.

If articles are transferred to this project, how should the quality and importance scales be treated? Is reassessment needed for all articles? - Paul_012 (talk) 14:49, 9 April 2008 (UTC)

It's okay to leave in both. Badagnani (talk) 02:50, 20 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] New userbox available

See Wikipedia:WikiProject_Thailand#Templates. Badagnani (talk) 16:16, 10 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Undiscussed page moves of Thai cities and provinces

See Special:Contributions/Borndistinction. Badagnani (talk) 11:47, 24 April 2008 (UTC)

The guidelines at Wikipedia:WikiProject Thai provinces#How to title the page have been there for quite some time. If no one else thinks they should be changed, these moves should be reverted. --Paul_012 (talk) 16:03, 24 April 2008 (UTC)

In Thailand it is much more common to talk about the province than the city - so when someone just says "Nakhon Phanom" it usually means the province of that name, if meaning the town one says "Mueang Nakhon Phanom" (not to be confused with Amphoe Mueang, which is another different entity). Thus on Thai Wikipedia นครพนม is a redirect to the province; on the Dutch WP Nakhon Phanom is the disambiguation page. Those naming convention in the province project was formulated unilaterally by myself, and says nothing about the town, just the province, as that project was for the provinces only. And actually this move was discussed - by email between me and borndistinction, who is editing on behalf of the Tourism Authority to add more information into the province articles. andy (talk) 20:42, 27 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Thailand in the Dutch Empire

Hello everyone! There is a discussion at Talk:Dutch Empire#Request For Comment: Map, because user Red4tribe has made a map of the Dutch Empire (Image:Dutch Empire 4.png) that includes significative parts of Thailand. Would you like to comment? Thank you. The Ogre (talk) 15:21, 26 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] AfD nomination of Tom kha pladuk

The Tom kha pladuk article has been listed for deletion. If you are interested in the deletion discussion, please participate by adding your comments at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Tom kha pladuk. Thank you. --Paul_012 (talk) 18:56, 17 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] An Invitation from the Philippine Wikipedia Community

Hello folks,

The Philippine Wikipedia Community will be holding its 1st Meet-up in Cebu City (the fourth one in the Philippines) on June 23-24, 2008. This coincides with the first Philippine Open Source Summit, also to be held in Cebu. The Philippine Wikipedia Community is an Implementing Partner of the Open Source Summit. We invite you to join us in this event. If you are in the IT or IT-enabled services industry, this would be a great opportunity to meet people from the 4th best outsourcing city in the world. This is also a good excuse to visit our beautiful beaches :)

If you're interested in joining the Wikipedia meet-up, please join our discussion. You can register for the Open Source Summit here. If you would like some assistance with local accomodations, you may email User:Bentong Isles.

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[edit] Archive of May 2008

I basically archived everything before 2008, since the page was hopelessly backlogged (some discussions haven't been resolved after 3 years). If anyone would like to revive a topic or request, please do so. --Paul_012 (talk) 15:32, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Draft Guidelines for Lists of companies by country - Feedback Requested

Within WikiProject Companies I am trying to establish guidelines for all Lists of companies by country, the implementation of which would hopefully ensure a minimum quality standard and level of consistency across all of these related but currently disparate articles. The ultimate goal is the improvement of these articles to Featured List status. As a WikiProject that currently has one of these lists within your scope, I would really appreciate your feedback! You can find the draft guidelines here. Thanks for your help as we look to build consensus and improve Wikipedia! - Richc80 (talk) 14:37, 26 May 2008 (UTC)