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[edit] Experts required

Hi there folks. I'm going to start populating your experts required category. If you could take a look at the subpages within and see what you could do, that would be great. Cheers! --Brad Beattie (talk) 13:33, 5 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Wikipedia Day Awards

Hello, all. It was initially my hope to try to have this done as part of Esperanza's proposal for an appreciation week to end on Wikipedia Day, January 15. However, several people have once again proposed the entirety of Esperanza for deletion, so that might not work. It was the intention of the Appreciation Week proposal to set aside a given time when the various individuals who have made significant, valuable contributions to the encyclopedia would be recognized and honored. I believe that, with some effort, this could still be done. My proposal is to, with luck, try to organize the various WikiProjects and other entities of wikipedia to take part in a larger celebrartion of its contributors to take place in January, probably beginning January 15, 2007. I have created yet another new subpage for myself (a weakness of mine, I'm afraid) at User talk:Badbilltucker/Appreciation Week where I would greatly appreciate any indications from the members of this project as to whether and how they might be willing and/or able to assist in recognizing the contributions of our editors. Thank you for your attention. Badbilltucker 17:08, 30 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] A Notable Absence of Findings in Neuroscience

I have noticed a notable absence of scientific findings (and their impact) in many Wikipedia entries traditionally “owned” by philosophers. And there are many findings that have significant impact on currently held believes and speculations.

For example, in Consciousness entry there are no references to findings of Dr. Benjamin Libet. He is only mentioned as a co-author in listed references without a single word on his findings and their nature. (Libet measured readiness potential required for a deliberate move of a hand, for example, and found that we become conscious of an “urge” to “deliberately” move a hand half a second after the required readiness potential for moving hand has been initiated. If this does not need a serious thinking, I do not know what does.)

There is also a sharp difference in meanings given to word “consciousness”, for example. Philosophers’ meaning could be expressed as consciousness = what-we-are-conscious-of + what-we-are-not-conscious-of, while psychologists and neuroscientists consider consciousness as a kind of container for what-we-are-conscious-of (and nothing else). Psychologists have also measured capacity of this folder, i.e. how many “items” we can be conscious at the time.

Apart from radically different scientific terminology (in contrast to philosophical) causing misunderstandings, there seems to be very little effort to link fragmented scientific findings into a coherent whole. (I’m trying to address these issues at my website: Imagination is Greater than Knowledge. Maybe it could offer you some leads.)

I do hope that this will inspire you, for confronting speculations with facts is the job of the science. Please, let me know if I can be of a help.

Damir Ibrisimovic —Preceding unsigned comment added by Dibrisim (talk • contribs) 13:31, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

Dear all,
I’m again calling for interdisciplinary approach. No encyclopaedia can afford entries limited within one discipline only if it aims to be a credible reference. And the silence my previous calls were met with does not seem encouraging. Memory, for example, is one concept only and here we have a call for memory (neurological) that might fragment the concept along dividing lines between various disciplines.
I’m also a bit confused by the term “neuroscience”. If it is intended to mean something different than “neurology”, then the difference should be specified.
Sincerely, Damir Ibrisimovic 23:58, 6 October 2007 (UTC)
See neuroscience and neurology if you are unsure of the difference. If the memory article is getting too large, splitting a neuroscience section off is a perfectly good solution. You should understand that 'splitting' is a bit of a misnomer; see Summary style. Richard001 01:46, 7 October 2007 (UTC)
Dear Richard,
I might be a bit “thick”, but I’m still failing to see the difference. Whatever the case might be, if you feel unsure about this (and you should) you are welcome at my talk pages. My question was rather rhetorical and the answer offered does not stand to any scrutiny. Another question regarding “splitting” also remains unanswered. Wouldn’t be more honest to admit our own inability to express ideas in simple, unambiguous terms? Lengthy (compartmentalised) entries seem to certify this.
Sincerely, Damir Ibrisimovic 14:35, 7 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Stimulation and TMS

I noticed some linkspam (http://www.biotele.com/) on the following pages: Neuroprosthetics, Cranial electrotherapy stimulation, Transcranial magnetic stimulation, Vagus nerve stimulation, Neurostimulator, Brain mapping, Functional neuroimaging, Statistical parametric mapping, and Neuroscience. The first five should be merged or linked together and organized in a better way. With the exception of maybe TMS, the first six use some cleanup too. -kslays 15:48, 5 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Memory (neurological)

Are there any decent articles which go into the concept of memory from a neurological standpoint? I'm quite willing to make an article as i've got quite a few books on the subject, and could easily make a large article on the topic with reference to inconsistencies in psychological models.

In terms of research from a pure-neuroscience related perspective on memory, i've got quite a few books which outline current neuro-based theories. Anyone willing to help? J O R D A N [talk ] 15:33, 23 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Afd for Luciano Fadiga

Hi, the Afd for Luciano Fadiga is undecided as to whether he was "the first to provide evidence that human beings have a system of mirror neurons analogous to system found in monkeys", and whether that is reason enough for being kept. An experts opinion would be appreciated. John Vandenberg 22:16, 7 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Missing topics

I am not an expert in neurology but I've collected a short list of missing topics related to neurosience. I've tried to find any similar articles but I'd appreciate if some of you could have a look at it. Thank you. - Skysmith 11:49, 19 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] WikiProject Award

I have created a WikiProject Award which has been voted as the award for this wikiproject. User:Alex43223 has formatted the text box.

The WikiProject Neuroscience Award
This WikiProject Neuroscience Award has been awarded to Alex43223 for the improvement or creation of neuroscience articles. thuglastalk|edits 16:50, 25 February 2007 (UTC)

The text is editable.thuglastalk|edits 16:43, 25 February 2007 (UTC)

If someone could add this to the project page it would be great. I dont want to mess around with it if i dont know what i am doing thuglastalk|edits 16:53, 25 February 2007 (UTC)

  • I made some adjustments to the text. --evrik (talk) 14:28, 27 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Assessment of neuroscience articles

Would an assessment scheme similar to that undertaken by WikiProject Atheism (Wikipedia:WikiProject Atheism/Assessment) be useful to this WikiProject? Would the effort needed to get it started result in a revival of this WikiProject? Would knowing which articles need what result in more constructive editing by this project? --Oldak Quill 20:49, 10 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Neuroanatomy stubs

The stub type Cat:neuroscience stubs has become very large; I've made a proposal to create a Cat:neuroanatomy stubs sub-type. If you have any thoughts on that, or ideas for further sub-types, please share them at WP:WSS/P. Alai 16:07, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Long-term potentiation, soliciting comments

Howdy folks. I've been doing quite a bit of work over at Long-term potentiation and would love to hear feedback from this group. Comments welcome at Talk:Long-term potentiation. Also see Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Long-term potentiation for some specific comments others have made previously. Thanks! David Iberri (talk) 18:00, 10 April 2007 (UTC)

Even if all you've got time for is a quick proofread/copyedit, I'd be very appreciative. Thanks! --David Iberri (talk) 01:04, 24 April 2007 (UTC)
  • What is the minimum duration for a potentiation to be considered "long-term"? According to the long-term memory article, a long-term memory lasts as little as 30 seconds. --Uthbrian (talk) 07:46, 25 April 2007 (UTC)
  • In the intro, I noticed the following:

It has been observed both in cultured cells (in vitro) and in living animals (in vivo). In cultured cells, applying a series of short, high-frequency electric stimuli to a synapse can strengthen, or potentiate, the synapse for minutes to hours. In living cells, LTP occurs naturally and can last from hours to days, months, and years.

Is the third sentence supposed to be "In living cells", or "In living animals"? --Uthbrian (talk) 07:53, 25 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] WP:MEDMOS

Wikipedia:Manual of Style (medicine-related articles) is a proposed guideline discussed and developed over recent months. Please visit the talk page to indicate whether you support or oppose Manual of Style (medicine-related articles) becoming a guideline. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 21:06, 13 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Project Banner

I have recently created a banner for Wikipedia:WikiProject Biology which has assessment parameters. I notice that your existing banner does not. Given the amount of overlap in the biology sector, and the concerns expressed elsewhere about the proliferation of project banners, I was wondering whether the members of this project would be interested in perhaps utilizing the Biology banner, with a "drop down tab" for this project, perhaps similar to the {{WPMILHIST}} banner. Doing so would permit for individual assessment for each project, as that is something the Military History banner does, while at the same time reducing the amount of banner "clutter" on talk pages. If you would be interested in such an arrangement, please let me know and I will work to revise the Biology banner to include the "drop-down" tab and make the other arrangements required for your project, as well as theirs, to have assessment data available. Thank you. John Carter 21:01, 27 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Exploring possibility of creating Child WikiProject

Hi, I'm in an information-gathering stage to determine whether it would make sense to create some kind of Wikiproject on a set of topics. The article began as a single article, but is clearly going to branch out pretty quickly. I think that a Child Project, or even a Task Force, would be more appropriate than a full WikiProject.

The question I have is, the topics in question could easily fall into 2, or even 3, larger topics. Some of the topics that branch out from this probably would be better placed in a different category entirely. The specific topic I'm referring to is "dyslexia." Depending on how you look at it, it could be categorized under neurological or psychological conditions; education; special education (a child project of Education). The articles that will branch out from this topic will range from eduation law, special education, learning disabilities, educational methods, instructional interventions, cognitive interventions, etc, to several branches of psychology, neuropsychology, psyciatric diagnoses, brain research, neuroimaging, etc. If I were going to choose, I would probably go with neuroscience. But, the Education project is much more extensive and organized, which could be an advantage for a project just starting out. It could also be a disadvantage.

Would love feedback on how best to categorize topics that could easily fall into more than one, and whether you think this type of topic fits into your purview. Thanks in advance! Rosmoran 19:35, 12 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Assessment scheme

Does anyone want to set one up? Not being able to rate articles is rather frustrating. I can help out with the template if needed - I'm trying to request a bot that can set it all up but having little success at the moment. Richard001 06:26, 22 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Neurocardiology

I added neurocardiology as a category to this article, though I suspect it is more a protoscience than anything else. I just wanted to inform your working group in case you have any objections to it being included. I'm not an expert, just trying to get things cleaned up. DLPanther 15:32, 27 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Proposed deletions (WP:PROD)

  • 25 August Team NEURO (PROD by User:IceCreamAntisocial; "...a reference to the alumni of the Summer School for Behavioral Neuroendocrinology at Michigan State University 2007.") —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ceyockey (talk • contribs) 01:37, August 29, 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Peer review for Therapies for multiple sclerosis

I have improved a lot this article in the last month and I´m thinking of nominating it for good article. I have asked for a scientific peer review; but I would appreciate any comments on how to improve it both in contents and style. The discussion page for the peer review is: Editing Wikipedia:Scientific peer review/Therapies for multiple sclerosis --Garrondo 08:52, 1 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Therapies for multiple sclerosis good article candidate

I have nominated the article as a good article candidate. I would be thankful to anybody who who helped in the good article review (See: Wikipedia:Good article candidates If you have not contributed significantly to this article, feel free to evaluate it according to the good article criteria and then pass or fail the article as outlined on the candidates page. --Garrondo 13:27, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Brain fingerprinting article needs expert attention, rewrite for NPOV

In its current state, the Brain fingerprinting article reads like an advertisement for the technique. It appears to be written from the POV that the "Brain Fingerprinting" technique is infallible, and based on undisputed scientific fact.

In particular, the following publications appear to suggest that scientific opinion may be less than unanimous about this view.

The MERMER article seems to cover the same material, from the same point of view; from my limited reading, it appears to be a term that is specific to the research that produced the brain fingerprinting technique. I've now replaced it by a redirect to this article.

I think this article needs a major rewrite for NPOV. I've made a start on it: however, I'd like to see this article reviewed further by members of this WikiProject. -- The Anome 11:39, 28 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] WikiProject Neuroscience/Assessment set up

An assessment system for WikiProject Neuroscience has been set up (credit goes to WikiProject Medicine for the text, layout, implementation). If you can, please help by assessing neuroscience articles. Once this process has begun, it will be easier to target neuroscience articles most in need of work.

Over the next week I will try to implement a few more tools and more generally revamp the project. Once structure is in place (and assuming there is enough interest), this project will be able to become active. Participants will be provided with clear goals and tasks (by tools such as assessment and monthly collaboration), which should prevent stagnation. Fingers crossed. --Oldak Quill 14:27, 2 October 2007 (UTC)

Ah, good work. I'll be sure to assess any articles I come across in my travels (I think I assessed one or two expecting the assessment to arrive one day as well, so they should now be done). Thanks. Richard001 06:53, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Should biographical articles be within the scope of this project?

I created the article on John Newsom-Davis, and without looking at this project page, I put a {{neuroscience}} --> now {{WPNEURO}} tag on its talk page (having seen this tag on most of the pages wikilinked from John Newsom-Davis). It's clear from the description on this project page that biographical articles are not within the present scope of this project. I mention it here so that you can decide whether or not they should be brought within the scope of the project.
--NSH001 02:24, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

I think history is well within the scope of this project. It's important to detail science and the progression of ideas with the histories of theories and discoveries included. This extends to biographical articles, institutions, journals, &c. Unless anyone objects, I'll reword the scope of the project to catch history. --Oldak Quill 15:40, 6 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Deletion review for Psychiatric abuse

Following an AfD on Psychiatric abuse, which was closed with the article being deleted, a deletion review is being held at Wikipedia:Deletion review/Log/2007 October 5#Psychiatric abuse. Comments would be welcomed. -- ChrisO 23:30, 10 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Expert attention requested

The quantum consciousness and ion channels article was recently deleted. Would someone (better yet, multiple someones) look into it and comment on this DRV which has been brought up? — xDanielx T/C 19:50, 13 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Therapies for multiple sclerosis

I have nominated the article for featured article after working on it. If anybody thinks the article is good enough please vote for it. Any comments for improvement will also be welcomed.Garrondo 14:22, 25 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Pleasure: call for participation

The pleasure article is little more than a stub. It seems silly that we have an extensive article on pain but practically nothing about pleasure. Would members of this project be interested in improving the article? -- Karada 16:30, 3 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Notice of List articles

Page(s) related to this project have been created and/or added to one of the Wikipedia:Contents subpages (not by me).

This note is to let you know, so that experts in the field can expand them and check them for accuracy, and so that they can be added to any watchlists/tasklists, and have any appropriate project banners added, etc. Thanks. --Quiddity 19:53, 5 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Wikibooks needs editors

If any of you are interested, there are several neuroscience textbooks at Wikibooks which are in need of some editors. If you'd like to contribute, you know what to do. – Mike.lifeguard | talk 00:45, 6 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Serotonin and depression help request

There is (to my reading) a fairly ugly article based on the serotonin/monoamine hypothesis of depression, called chemical imbalance. It was originally a coatrack for an anti-psychiatry perspective, but is now at risk of being unbalanced in different ways, so any expert eyes would be appreciated. To my reading "chemical imbalance" is used in lay texts, but that there have been specific hypotheses (e.g., serotonin and depression, dopamine and schizophrenia) that do exist in the scientific literature (but also, that the simple "imbalance" forms of these are not supported by current evidence).--Limegreen 03:56, 11 November 2007 (UTC)

From my direct experience, imbalance hypotheses seem to have ample validity. They are of course greatly simplified for the general public. 66.218.55.142 20:21, 12 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Neurotransmitters

In "Talk:Neurotransmitter#Neurotransmitter effects" I describe a recent psychopharmacology mishap I'm recovering from, and my attempt to map the effects of changing neurotransmitter levels. Does my interpretation appear correct? Which receptors appear to have been preferentially overstimulated or understimulated? 66.218.55.142 20:04, 12 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] cal vs kcal

Hello! Please see Talk:Brain#Energy_consumption. Thanks, SyP (talk) 09:34, 22 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Alpha motor neuron

I just nominated alpha motor neuron for WP:GOOD status when I realized that having some extra neuroscience-y eyes on it wouldn't hurt either. Additions, subtractions, and other edits and comments would be much appreciated. --David Iberri (talk) 06:50, 27 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Knol and insomnia

Look at [1]. It would be better to improve article about insomnia in wikipedia, because it will be often compared with the one from Google Knol, and now its quality is rather poor. 83.5.242.20 (talk) 12:45, 16 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] New articles by Llinas

Someone check Calcium concentration microdomains‎ and Subthreshold membrane potential oscillations‎. These article was created by Rodolfo Llinas (talk · contribs) and need clean up and expert attention. Carlosguitar (ready and willing) 10:17, 19 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Neural correlates of consciousness article from Scholarpedia?

It appears that our Neural correlates of consciousness article is very similar to that from Scholarpedia, here. Do we have permission to use it? I suppose it is possible that Fmorm (talk · contribs) is Florian Mormann who coauthored the Scholarpedia article. AxelBoldt (talk) 19:47, 30 December 2007 (UTC)

Are you sure that the Scholarpedia article came first? WhatamIdoing (talk) 05:11, 8 March 2008 (UTC)
I am wondering whether it is a problem at all. As far as I understand the Scholarpedia is also licensed under GNU Free Documentation License, see [2] — fnielsen (talk) 18:32, 30 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Action potential

Action potential has been nominated for a featured article review. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks. Please leave your comments and help us to return the article to featured quality. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, articles are moved onto the Featured Article Removal Candidates list for a further period, where editors may declare "Keep" or "Remove" the article from featured status. The instructions for the review process are here. Reviewers' concerns are here.

[edit] Reactive attachment disorder

I have nominated this article for FAC, here [3]. SandyGeorgia suggested I approach your Project to find reviewers. Its a slightly obscure subject but it does cover early development and is one of those areas where although there's been insufficient research so far there really ought to be alot more, of the neuroscientific variety. I'd be very grateful if someone would take the trouble to review it. Thanks in advance. Fainites barley 23:02, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Pages for individual scientific articles

In my sandbox I have been experimenting with representing data contained in a neuroimaging paper on a Wikipedia page. The idea is to construct templates and/or tables with this data, and make functions that can up and download it. One sandbox example is available here that contain the so-called Talairach coordinates (In this case it contains excerpt of data from a paper where I am a coauthor). In a database that I have built there are numerous other papers from different research groups, for an example see here. I am wondering whether other Wikipedia editors think it would be a good idea to have such articles. Are such articles appropriate or they will quickly be deleted? — fnielsen (talk) 00:56, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Help needed with Action potential

Hi all,

You might be unaware, but action potential is due to be delisted as a Featured Article very soon, possibly as early as this Saturday, April 5th. A small band of non-scientists is working to save it; perhaps some of you scientists like to help out? The article is still very rough and patchy, as you'll see, but your contributions would be very welcome. Referencing is especially needed; thank you! :) Willow (talk) 22:16, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Has action potential reached FA-quality? You decide!

I would appreciate commentary and critique on whether the current action potential article is worthy to be a Featured Article. It's a long article, I know, but please read through it and vote your conscience, Keep or Remove, at its FAR. If you don't like it, then let me know what needs to be fixed! Willow (talk) 19:07, 24 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] clinical depression rename

Please add 2c here Cheers, Casliber (talk · contribs) 19:14, 13 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] New related WikiProject!

Hi folks, i've managed to get WikiProject Neurology up and running in about a day but it's still in a basic state and needs a lot of work! Those of you who are more interested in the disease and treatment side of things may wish to join up to the project! (plus any laypersons who just want to do the hard work!) Thanks! Regards, CycloneNimrodTalk?Sign? 18:52, 29 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Related media

The Psychology Wiki.
The Psychology Wiki.

The Psychology Wiki is a Wikia project, meaning that it is hosted by Wikia Inc., which was founded by Jimmy Wales and Angela Beesley. You can think of the project as a daughter of the wikipedia site.

The Psychology Wiki's mission is to create an online resource placing the entire body of psychology knowledge in the hands of its users, be they academics, practitioners or users of psychology services. It is intended to be a meta-textbook, with full academic referencing and extensive cross linking between different subject areas.

The Psychology Wiki differs from Wikipedia psychology articles in that:

  • 1) It is intended to contain all of the discipline of psychology, like a giant meta-textbook, rather than an Encyclopedia.
  • 2) It will therefore go into much greater technical detail than one would have in an encyclopedia. It will have full academic referencing.
  • 3) It will have Personal Experiences relating to psychology issues on seperate user pages, protected by admins, allowing POV to be expressed on these pages only. The rest of the wiki is NPOV, but expression of personal experience is nessesary and desireable on our wiki.
  • 4) It will have course content pages from academic and clinical courses with links to internal wiki articles.
  • 5) It will be a place for researchers to discuss latest papers etc...
  • 6) As the site will mainly be of interest to people who study or work in psychology, we expect that the majority of our contributors will be psychologists by training. Of our current contributors, approximately 80% are psychologists. This means that the community works very differently from Wikipedia, due to a much greater level of expertise.

Please have a look at the Psychology Wiki and let us know what you think. Mostly Zen [originally added to main page, moved here by User:OldakQuill Oldak Quill 19:32, 5 June 2008 (UTC)]