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[edit] Schools

[edit] Greenbank Middle School

Greenbank Middle School (edit|talk|history|links|watch|logs) (delete) – (View AfD)

Fails WP:ORG. Fails to cite sources. It's just not notable. First nom. Delete GreenJoe 20:38, 14 June 2008 (UTC)

  • Note: This debate has been included in the list of Schools-related deletion discussions. -- DoubleBlue (Talk) 21:34, 14 June 2008 (UTC)
  • Note: This debate has been included in the list of Ontario-related deletion discussions. -- DoubleBlue (Talk) 21:34, 14 June 2008 (UTC)
  • Merge and/or redirect to appropriate school district, as per the common outcome. Most Middle school- and Elementary-related articles go through this process shortly after an AfD. --Mizu onna sango15/水女珊瑚15 22:10, 14 June 2008 (UTC)
  • Merge and redirect per above; no evidence of individual notability for this school. JJL (talk) 22:38, 14 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Alta Vista Public School

Alta Vista Public School (edit|talk|history|links|watch|logs) (delete) – (View AfD)

Fails WP:ORG. Fails to cite sources. It's just not notable. Delete GreenJoe 20:41, 14 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Henry Munro Middle School

Henry Munro Middle School (edit|talk|history|links|watch|logs) (delete) – (View AfD)

This article fails to cite sources, and it fails WP:ORG. It just isn't notable. Delete GreenJoe 17:30, 14 June 2008 (UTC)

  • Comment. The school appears to have notable alumni, and to be named after a notable Canadian politician. --Eastmain (talk) 17:45, 14 June 2008 (UTC)
    • Appears to. It cites NO sources to back it up. GreenJoe 17:53, 14 June 2008 (UTC)
  • Weak Keep Amazing how tagging something AfD causes references to appear out of the woodwork. :-) Jclemens (talk) 18:04, 14 June 2008 (UTC)
  • Note: This debate has been included in the list of Schools-related deletion discussions. —TerriersFan (talk) 18:10, 14 June 2008 (UTC)
  • Merge/Redirect into Ottawa-Carleton District School Board per the usual middle school procedure. We can't have an article on each middle school that was attended by someone with a Wikipedia bio. Notability is not inherited. --brewcrewer (yada, yada) 19:02, 14 June 2008 (UTC)
  • Weak keep Although I disagree with it, there seems to be a consensus on Wiki to keep schools and since this has sources, I would say it's more notable than some at least. --Ave Caesar (talk) 19:25, 14 June 2008 (UTC)
  • The wiki consensus (I disagree with it as well) is to keep high schools, not middle schools. --brewcrewer (yada, yada) 19:30, 14 June 2008 (UTC)
  • Yes, but Bryan Adams and Tom Cruise are very notable alumni, and the consensus as I've seen it is that Middle schools CAN be notable. If this isn't, what is? Personally, as a recent changes patroller, I'd just as soon we eliminate or semi-protect every single school article. :-) Jclemens (talk) 19:33, 14 June 2008 (UTC)
  • There's no accepted policy or even guideline for school notability. If in your opinion this school isn't notable, don't be afraid to say so. --brewcrewer (yada, yada) 20:37, 14 June 2008 (UTC)
  • Weak delete Changing to weak delete. Just because a school had notable alumni does not make the school notable as well. This goes back to the whole notability isn't inherited principle. --Ave Caesar (talk) 19:35, 14 June 2008 (UTC)
  • Keep - a notable sporting success, an unusual number of notable alumni and a further sources available (I'm about to add another) adds up to an encyclopaedic article. TerriersFan (talk) 19:41, 14 June 2008 (UTC)
  • Redirect to parent district article, a passing mention in a biography of Tom Cruise and a couple of blurbs in a local paper is not substantive independent sourcing, it is trivial mentions. Willing to reconsider if genuinely substantial sourcing exists, but there's nothing I can find. "Famous people went here" has no bearing whatsoever, sources confer notability on a subject, not having famous people affiliated with it. Seraphimblade Talk to me 20:06, 14 June 2008 (UTC)
"passing mention" is a bit harsh. pages 13-16 discuss his days at the school. DoubleBlue (Talk) 20:11, 14 June 2008 (UTC)
  • redirect per Seraphimblade & Brewcrewer. Pete.Hurd (talk) 21:21, 14 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] QUB English Society

QUB English Society (edit|talk|history|links|watch|logs) (delete) – (View AfD)

University society with questionable notability. They've had some famous visiting speakers, but I'm sure most such societies have and I'm not sure it makes the society itself notable. Cordless Larry (talk) 21:22, 13 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] List of Oklahoma State University buildings

List of Oklahoma State University buildings (edit|talk|history|links|watch|logs) (delete) – (View AfD)

there is already a listing of buildings in the article for Oklahoma State University. in addition, this page does not provide enough information; I have a feeling it might just be a list that was copied from somewhere. Scottmso (talk) 02:28, 8 June 2008 (UTC)

  • Delete As mentioned above, this list already exists on the main article. Furthermore, it is not sufficiently notable in itself to constitute an article (or list) of its own. Wilhelm meis (talk) 03:31, 11 June 2008 (UTC)
  • Note: This debate has been included in the list of Oklahoma-related deletion discussions. -- Fabrictramp | talk to me 18:18, 12 June 2008 (UTC)
  • Note: This debate has been included in the list of Schools-related deletion discussions. -- Fabrictramp | talk to me 18:18, 12 June 2008 (UTC)
  • Merge with Oklahoma State University–Stillwater#Campus buildings. We certainly don't need overlapping information in two places. This looks a more complete list than that in the main article including demolished buildings and buildings under construction, for example, and at least containing a small amount of sourcing. There are two ways forward. The first, is to merge this list into the main article. The second, and my preference, would be to move the list of buildings out of the main article and into here to make the main page less cluttered. Which solution is adopted is a matter for the talk page. TerriersFan (talk) 15:23, 14 June 2008 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so that consensus may be reached.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, —Wknight94 (talk) 18:24, 14 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Fisher Park Public School

Fisher Park Public School (edit|talk|history|links|watch|logs) (delete) – (View AfD)

Non-notable School. Fails WP:ORG Delete GreenJoe 15:28, 12 June 2008 (UTC)

It also fails to cite sources. GreenJoe 16:10, 12 June 2008 (UTC)
  • Keep. It appears to have more history than many other schools, having changed hands and changed its name on a number of occasions. Because of its complex history, it is not an ideal candidate for merger into its school district. --Eastmain (talk) 16:02, 12 June 2008 (UTC)
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  • Note: This debate has been included in the list of Schools-related deletion discussions. —Eastmain (talk) 16:02, 12 June 2008 (UTC)
  • Comment. I added some references. --Eastmain (talk) 16:18, 12 June 2008 (UTC)
  • Strong Keep. I'm getting tired of these vendettas against school articles. Even a small school is a major public institution with an annual budget of hundreds of thousands or millions of dollars and the hub of a neighbourhood or town. If subway stops, coffee shops, and anime characters qualify for articles, why shouldn't schools? In any case, Fisher is notable for several reasons, including the celebrities who attended it as students and the acrimonious public debate over the highschool closing a couple of decades ago. David (talk) 20:50, 12 June 2008 (UTC)
    Hundreds of thousands of dollars are spent on traffic lights, individual fast food restaurants, and individual gas stations, all of which do not and should not have articles. Each of these are major hubs in a neighborhood or town!
    "We have articles on this!" is generally a bad argument. The fact that individual schools are almost always the subject of discussion in reliable sources, well, there you're onto something. - A Man In Bl♟ck (conspire | past ops) 22:44, 12 June 2008 (UTC)
    Those are good points, but I think that schools still stand out from the other examples. Individual traffic lights might cost a few thousand to put up, but each one doesn't have an operating budget of a few hundred thousand or a million a year; a fast food restaurant location or a very big gas station might have that kind of budget, but it's not a public institution. None is a community hub in the way that a school is: they don't host dances, sport events, candidate debates, community group meetings, sales, or fairs (well, maybe a gas station somewhere does all that, but if it does, it's probably notable enough for an article). Also, unlike the others, schools represent important stages in thousands of current and former students' lives. I agree that Fisher is particularly notable, but I think that ever school should be considered notable by default because of what I just listed (while every gas station or traffic light should not). After all, Wikipedia is not running out of paper, and school articles are not vanity pieces or trivia. David (talk) 01:10, 13 June 2008 (UTC)
    Wikipedia's limit is not the amount of paper, but the supply of sources for words on that paper. One can make an argument that schools are as important as [thing we have] or as unimportant as [things we don't], but such an argument contributes nothing to an AFD.
    Once you focus on WP:V and WP:N and talk about whether we can write an article about this school based on the sources, you move from airy philosophical discussions that please none to practical discussions with applicable results.
    Wikipedia articles are not badges of merit or measures of importance or directories of public institutions. They are not awarded, they are written. They are summaries of what reliable sources have seen fit to say on the subject. - A Man In Bl♟ck (conspire | past ops) 01:26, 13 June 2008 (UTC)
  • Keep per refs added by Eastmain. This article now meets WP:N.--Sting Buzz Me... 22:13, 12 June 2008 (UTC)
  • Keep - this school has a particularly unusual history and sources are available to easily meet WP:ORG. Nominators should look beyond what is in the article to what is available to be added. Stubs are like small acorns; if they are pulled out of the ground they will never develop but if they are nurtured they may grow into giant oaks. TerriersFan (talk) 22:45, 12 June 2008 (UTC)
  • Delete. The article gives no basis for its meeting the WP:ORG notability standard. --brewcrewer (yada, yada) 16:55, 13 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Amaya School of Home and Industries

Amaya School of Home and Industries (edit|talk|history|links|watch|logs) (delete) – (View AfD)

Does not assert notability. SGGH speak! 09:39, 12 June 2008 (UTC)

  • Note: This debate has been included in the list of Philippines-related deletion discussions. —• Gene93k (talk) 13:31, 12 June 2008 (UTC)
  • Note: This debate has been included in the list of Schools-related deletion discussions. —• Gene93k (talk) 13:31, 12 June 2008 (UTC)
  • Tagged it for speedy deletion as an article without enough context. Alexius08 is welcome to talk about his contributions. 13:37, 12 June 2008 (UTC)
    • Speedy tag removed. The article stated what the subject is (a high school) and where it its (Tanza, Cavite). I've edited for clarity, but it was an easy enough problem to fix. Also, please note that the nominator removed "irrelevant" content before nominating for AfD. • Gene93k (talk) 13:55, 12 June 2008 (UTC)
  • Comment - I have added back some content that is plainly relevant. This should have been cleaned up and not removed. I have also verified the status of the school. TerriersFan (talk) 23:09, 12 June 2008 (UTC)
  • Keep - this is notable not only as a high school but by virtue of the organisational arrangements. We need to be wary of systemic bias. Philippines' schools rarely have a presence on the internet so we need to rely on local sourcing which we should be encouraging not deleting stubs. TerriersFan (talk) 23:36, 12 June 2008 (UTC)
  • Delete No evidence of notability. High schools are not considered automatically notable (there was no consensus on this at the draft WP:SCHOOL), so there should not be a presumption that enough reliable sources can be found to meet WP:N. If these sources can be found offline in the future someone can re-create the article then. Nick Dowling (talk) 10:24, 13 June 2008 (UTC)
  • Comment - which is precisely how we do not deal with stubs. We have stubs because existing articles attract editors whereas the concept of keeping articles off Wikipedia until they are fully developed is fatally flawed since it rarely happens. TerriersFan (talk) 19:30, 13 June 2008 (UTC)
  • keep although technically High schools aren't automatically notable, in practice they are--we have accepted every one brought here for a long time now. Experience shows there is always something to say, and sources as well. I wasnt altogether happy with accepting this rule at first myself, but it seems the practical course. DGG (talk) 19:49, 13 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Govt. Sr. Sec. School, Ajeetpura

Govt. Sr. Sec. School, Ajeetpura (edit|talk|history|links|watch|logs) (delete) – (View AfD)

Not notable, unsourced Ged UK (talk) 08:04, 11 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Silver Springs Public School

Silver Springs Public School (edit|talk|history|links|watch|logs) (delete) – (View AfD)

relatively unknown elementary school in Toronto. The article is just one sentence long. Yettipolitician123 (talk) 10:50, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. John254 15:35, 14 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Lee County High School (Leesburg, Georgia)

Lee County High School (Leesburg, Georgia) (edit|talk|history|links|watch|logs) (delete) – (View AfD)

PROD contested because "experience shows that deletion of high schools will certainly be contested, so prod is inappropriate". Non-notable high school. Fails WP:SCHOOLS. Wolfer68 (talk) 08:20, 9 June 2008 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

[edit] Mary Hanley (Edmonton)

Mary Hanley (Edmonton) (edit|talk|history|links|watch|logs) (delete) – (View AfD)

Article has nothing other then an infobox with an image and some information which isn't sourced and fails to state anything that would make this school notable. Bidgee (talk) 06:06, 9 June 2008 (UTC)

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  • Delete as unsourced and failing to show notability. The name is incorrect as it fails to identify the subject as a school. Ben MacDuiTalk/Walk 08:17, 9 June 2008 (UTC)
  • Delete Per nom. Virek (talk) 08:21, 9 June 2008 (UTC)
  • Delete per nom and BMD, an infobox is not an article. I suggest though that the article creator be commended on a noble effort and counseled on how to better contribute. Perhaps merge to a table in the parent article? Franamax (talk) 15:55, 11 June 2008 (UTC)
  • An infobox is not an article, and elementary schools are not considered notable by default anymore. If the article can be expanded with actual proof of notability, then I'm prepared to change my vote, but right now it's a delete. Do, however, create a redirect from the proper article title, Mary Hanley Catholic Elementary School, to Edmonton Catholic School District. Bearcat (talk) 15:19, 12 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Schools proposed for deletion

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