User talk:Fabrictramp
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Also, links to relevant articles are very much appreciated. Thanks! -- Fabrictramp
[edit] SmackBot
Yes dead pc, need to read the config files off the disk. Should happen by Wednesday. And I am still dealing with my late fathers estate (sounds grand - read taking cutlery to the Oxfam) - so not all is well, but it is in the past. Rich Farmbrough, 19:43 26 May 2008 (GMT).
[edit] Can you see deleted articles?
Hi Fabrictramp, you have been chosen as a random administrator because I need someone neutral with administrator rights.
Can you see deleted articles because I had the Three Tour on my watchlist and I never discovered any deletion nomination. According to wikipolicy there should be a "AfD: Nominated for deletion; see Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/PageName" in the edit summary and {{subst:afd1}} on the page. As it's deleted I can only see Google's cached version (it has no deletion nominations) so can you see if it was done properly or was hidden behind a robot edit shortly after?? Thank you --Regards, Necessary Evil (talk) 07:19, 27 May 2008 (UTC)
- Yes, there was a proper AfD header placed on May 20 by User:Tenacious D Fan, who didn't use an edit summary.--Fabrictramp | talk to me 14:08, 27 May 2008 (UTC)
- What did you say was written in the edit summary when the template was inserted? Regards, Necessary Evil (talk) 14:33, 27 May 2008 (UTC)
- As I said, there was no edit summary used. This is what is on the line for that edit: (diff) 04:05, May 20, 2008 . . Tenacious D Fan (Talk | contribs | block) (1,892 bytes). You might want to drop Tenacious D Fan a note reminding him/her how important edit summaries are.--Fabrictramp | talk to me 15:39, 27 May 2008 (UTC)
- Thank you very much for your help. I've already followed you advice and informed him. An edition with an empty edit summary from a bluetexted editor is not alarming people. And one week after they suddenly read "(Deletion log); 05:27:26 . . AdministratorX (Talk | contribs) deleted "Pagename" (Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Pagename)" - too late; that's bad!
- Thanks again --Regards, Necessary Evil (talk) 20:35, 27 May 2008 (UTC)
- Glad I could help.--Fabrictramp | talk to me 21:07, 27 May 2008 (UTC)
- Glad I could help.--Fabrictramp | talk to me 21:07, 27 May 2008 (UTC)
- As I said, there was no edit summary used. This is what is on the line for that edit: (diff) 04:05, May 20, 2008 . . Tenacious D Fan (Talk | contribs | block) (1,892 bytes). You might want to drop Tenacious D Fan a note reminding him/her how important edit summaries are.--Fabrictramp | talk to me 15:39, 27 May 2008 (UTC)
- What did you say was written in the edit summary when the template was inserted? Regards, Necessary Evil (talk) 14:33, 27 May 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Deletion Sorting Category
I did not realize that there was yet another page to change. I changed the List (by ABC) page, but did not realize there was the List (by topic) page. Sorry. MrKIA11 (talk) 22:58, 30 May 2008 (UTC)
- No problem -- as you see, I fixed it. Just giving you a heads up so you'd know. :)--Fabrictramp | talk to me 23:10, 30 May 2008 (UTC)
[edit] First Article
Hello! I'm working on creating my first article and I was wondering if you wouldn't mind taking a look before I post it. I've got the whole thing up on my user page at the moment. I'd really appreciate any suggestions or advice you can provide. Thanks! Skiguy330 (talk) 23:10, 30 May 2008 (UTC)
- First off, great job on your first article -- I'm impressed!
- One small thing is that references #3 and #5 go to the same article. You can name the first reference and reuse it. See Wikipedia:Footnotes#Naming_a_ref_tag_so_it_can_be_used_more_than_once for how to do this.
- Some other random thoughts. Obviously, you'll want to have categories in the article when you go live. Also, when you go live, use the {{lowercase}} tag at the start of the article, which will let everyone know it's intentionally lower case. Also, you might want to take a last look at copyediting the article -- it is almost, but not quite, reading like an ad or a press release. I'd call it good, but some other editors would have a problem with it. If you can use just a tad more encyclopedic tone, it would be wonderful. (That's the part I do not shine at. *grin*)
- Hope that helps!--Fabrictramp | talk to me 23:21, 30 May 2008 (UTC)
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- That helps a lot, thanks! Fuhghettaboutit helped me clean up the ad-speak a bit and helped me with my sources. I've added some categories and the {{lowercase}} tag (it took me forever to figure out what it did!). Thanks again! I really appreciate the help. Skiguy330 (talk) 03:11, 31 May 2008 (UTC)
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- Glad to be of help!--Fabrictramp | talk to me 18:00, 31 May 2008 (UTC)
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[edit] On Mahmud Dowlatabadi
Dear Fabrictramp, please see: [1], the Remarks in [2] and [3], as well as the Note [4]. Perhaps you wish to take some appropriate action. Two further points: Firstly, I did not attempt to merge the entries myself (but instead left the task to User:Nadim2008, as evidenced by [5]), as by doing so I would have somehow taken credit for what was/is written by User:Nadim2008 — this merging would have required moving Nadi2008's text to the older entry. Secondly, I believe that Mahmoud Dowlatabadi is the best transliteration of the original names (this is why Nadim2008's text would have to be moved). Kind regards, --BF 17:13, 4 June 2008 (UTC)
- The best way to handle this type of thing if you don't want to do the merge yourself is with a {{merge}} tag. Template:Merge has some good documentation on how to use this. Put a {{Mergeto | Article 1 | Talk:Article 1#Merge proposal |date=June 2008 }} on the article you think has the wrong name, where "Article 1" is the correctly named article. Then put {{Mergefrom | Article 2 | Talk:Article 1#Merge proposal |date=June 2008 }} on the article with the correct name, and "Article 2" is the incorrectly named article. On the talk page linked in the templates, you can put the reasons why you think the merge should be done. Hope that helps!--Fabrictramp | talk to me 17:22, 4 June 2008 (UTC)
- Thanks! --BF 18:07, 4 June 2008 (UTC)
[edit] help!?
Hello, I'm trying to figure out how to add a category to an AfD and for the life of me I cannot get it to work. Here is the page, Etoo. Can you please tell me how to do it? I'd appreciate it. Thanks!Renee (talk) 22:41, 5 June 2008 (UTC)
- I had to look up the codes for the categories, because I use Twinkle to do AfD nominations. :) You can find the list of codes here. Hope that helps!--Fabrictramp | talk to me 22:48, 5 June 2008 (UTC)
- Thanks(!) for the quick response. I've seen people mention Twinkle. I looked at the site and it's still Greek to me. How exactly does it work? Thanks again. Renee (talk) 22:53, 5 June 2008 (UTC)
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- Twinkle is a set of scripts you can install that add tabs that do a lot of repetitive things very quickly, such as prod, tagging for speedy deletion, AfD, etc. A related set of scripts, Friendly, lets you tag articles for improvement and warn vandals. I, too, thought it was all Greek at first, but I followed the installation instructions word for word, and was amazed when it worked. :) --Fabrictramp | talk to me 22:57, 5 June 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Dee Luong relisted?
I have to concur with 2005 why did you choose to relist this rather than close it as no-consensus? While I think it should be deleted (as does 2005) 10 !votes is enough community involvement that *I* don't think relisting was necessary.---Balloonman PoppaBalloon 23:25, 5 June 2008 (UTC)
- I did strongly consider closing it as no consensus, but what seems to happen is that the same article comes up for AfD again quickly. I hope that some sort of consensus can be reached now, instead of rehashing it from scratch in a month. If no consensus is reached in another 5 days, I'm fine with closing it as no consensus (either by myself or another admin). So yes, I agree that relisting wasn't necessary; but I do think that it may save some bother in the long run.
- Just as an aside, I disagree a bit with your logic in "I think if he doesn't like the idea of closing with no consensus, he should then !vote." (besides the fact that I'm not a he.) I really don't have any opinion on whether the article should stay or go, despite having read the article multiple times and all the arguments at least twice. How would you propose that I !vote? AFAIK, "I have no idea" isn't generally recognized as a helpful AfD !vote.--Fabrictramp | talk to me 00:20, 6 June 2008 (UTC)
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- Can you provide policy for "I have no idea" ;-) But thanks for the response ;-) ---Balloonman PoppaBalloon 01:27, 6 June 2008 (UTC)
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- I bet there's a policy on it somewhere. There is on everything else. ;-)--Fabrictramp | talk to me 15:11, 6 June 2008 (UTC)
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[edit] Just as a heads-up
Your PROD template was removed from History of Computers and Communications in Newfoundland and Labrador. Just letting you know so you can toss up an AfD template or leave it be. Whatever you wanna do. - Vianello (talk) 01:04, 6 June 2008 (UTC)
- Thanks for the heads up, and AfD is started.--Fabrictramp | talk to me 15:14, 6 June 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Thanks
Thanks for sending me a copy of the article. I'll work on it in my spare time and see if we can get it reposted.. Thanks again. ShoesssS Talk 10:15, 6 June 2008 (UTC)
[edit] History of Communications in Newfoundland and Labrador
You're very fast with that delete button, Fab. Self-publishing is the new form of printing books. Whomever complained about this article has a vindictive streak and is staulking my publication making slanderous remarks. Do you alllow such people to influence your decisions?
In the debate about deleting this people vote to KEEP the article. If you are not included, that makes it a 100% unanimous YES.
Could you please put it back as it was.
Best Regards
Paul Hussey phussey@yahoo.com —Preceding unsigned comment added by Phussey (talk • contribs) 20:05, 6 June 2008 (UTC)
- You clearly did not read WP:COI and WP:SPAM as I asked. You might note that no one in the AfD said to keep the article as it was, only that the subject itself was important. I concur with that, which is why when another editor rewrote the article to comply with Wikipedia's guidelines, I withdrew the deletion nomination.
- You might also read WP:AGF before accusing anyone of having "a vindictive streak" or "staulking (sic) my publication making slanderous remarks".--Fabrictramp | talk to me 20:16, 6 June 2008 (UTC)
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- I OWN the copyright of "History of Computers and Communications in Newfoundland and Labrador."
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- You deleted the article for reasons that are beyond me. Since this whole topic is new, and I compiled, categorized, registered and maintain the information related to it, Wikipedia is denying other people a chance to asses and improve it as more information is collected. This history, nor it's story, have ever been told.
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- I have lived in the Newfoundland and Labrador area most of my life, I know it's history. I also know many of the people who were involved in the stories. Who could the early historians such as Herodotus and Xenophon, have cited?
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- Please put the article back where it belongs. I shall add more to it as I collect and sort out the remainder of the information.
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- If I can be of any further help, please feel free to contact me.
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- By the way, the "delete debate" showed two people in favour of keeping the article. Please read their comments.
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- I apologize, as it seems I did not make myself clear above. Again, I strongly encourage you to spend some time reading the links I cited, because they are core policies of Wikipedia and have the consensus of the community.
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- While you may own the copyright to the book you wrote, you do not own the copyright to the article History of Computers and Communications in Newfoundland and Labrador. All contributions to Wikipedia (yours, mine, and any editor's) are submitted under the GFDL license.
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- The article History of Computers and Communications in Newfoundland and Labrador was not deleted. I proposed it for deletion because in its prior form, it violated Wikipedia's policies. When another editor rewrote the article to comply with the policies, I withdrew the deletion nomination. One of the two people who were in favor of keeping the article was the one who rewrote it, so I think we can safely assume s/he was not in favor it the previous version. The other editor's comments do not indicate to me that they were in favor of an advertising version, but I will be happy to contact them and ask them to comment.
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- Your book is clearly not the only source of infomation on this subject, because the editor who rewrote the article was easily able to find another source. Certainly other editors can, and are encouraged, to also use your book as a reference for the article, providing your book meets Wikipedia's standards for sources. However, because you are the author of the book, Wikipedia strongly discourages you from writing about the book yourself. However, you are welcome to improve the article by citing other sources, such as the ones you may have used in writing your book, so long as you are not promoting or mentioning your book.
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- To sum up, there are a lot of policy reasons for not reverting the article to your version. I again encourage you to read those policies. If, after thoroughly reading the policies, you still disagree, you are certainly welcome to take this matter to Wikipedia:Third opinion. If you do so, I ask that you do me the courtesy of letting me know.--Fabrictramp | talk to me 21:11, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
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I quote "If you decide to delete the article, provide an informative deletion reason, such as that given by the nominator, not just "expired prod". This is because once the article is deleted, the reason for the {{prod}} is no longer visible to non-admins. If you are using an automated script, check that it does not leave an inadequate message."
Could you tell me who nominated my article - as opposed to editing - for deletion? That person did not afford me the courtesy of telling me.
Regards, Paul
- You were notified of the proposed deletion here. --Fabrictramp | talk to me 23:36, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
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[edit] David Finley Lighting Designer
A tag has been placed on David Finley Lighting Designer, requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under the criteria for speedy deletion, because it is a redirect to a nonexistent page.
If you can fix this redirect to point to an existing Wikipedia page, please do so and remove the speedy deletion tag. However, please do not remove the speedy deletion tag unless you also fix the redirect. Feel free to leave a note on my talk page if you have any questions about this. Elektrik Blue (talk) 17:49, 8 June 2008 (UTC)
- No need to keep -- I deleted it myself.--Fabrictramp | talk to me 17:55, 8 June 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Arrogant Sons of Bitches Confusion
Hey, I'm wondering if you can clarify a little more about why the Arrogant Sons of Bitches page keeps getting deleted. Before I created the article last night, I checked why it was deleted the first time, and it said "(CSD R1), was a redirect to an non-existent page." Prior to that, it looks like it was deleted for not being considered notable, yet a) there appeared to be notable sources, and b) multiple members are now in a now-notable band, Bomb the Music Industry!. The article I made last night was deleted for being a recreation of the earlier article (even though it was different), and I feel like it corrected the problem for which it was deleted previously. So yeah any clarification would be great. Thanks! Soave (talk) 17:38, 9 June 2008 (UTC)
- While the article was a bit different, it didn't address the problems brought up at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/The Arrogant Sons of Bitches. If you'd like to give the article another try, I'd suggest making it at a subpage of your user page. When you think it's ready, put a {{helpme}} tag (note the curly brackets) on your talk page, and have an experienced editor look it over. Hope that helps!--Fabrictramp | talk to me 18:32, 9 June 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Re-Chidi Anthony Opara
The aforementioned article has just been edited by me. See also the discussion section of the Article's entry on Articles for Deletion page, where i tried to provide reasons why it should not be listed for deletion. Warm RegardsIjele (talk) 15:00, 12 June 2008 (UTC)
- I don't have any opinion on the article or deletion -- I just added a tag to notify people who are interested in poetry about the deletion discussion. I also took the liberty of moving your comments to the actual discussion.--Fabrictramp | talk to me 15:07, 12 June 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Hey Jude
thank you --Dweller (talk) 16:05, 12 June 2008 (UTC)
[edit] User:Mike T Boss
I have aquestion as to why you undid my last edit, it had no link so it needed to be deleted. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mike T Boss (talk • contribs) 00:57, 13 June 2008 (UTC)
