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Contents 1 SundarBot 2 Unusual articles request 3 DYK 4 DYK (24 August) 5 DYK 6 John Smeaton (baggage handler) 7 Essay move 8 Sophomore 9 Notification of ANI thread 10 Wikipedia:Biographical content 11 Placeholder images 12 Request for arbitration 13 So Small 14 Some thoughts 15 h2g2 template 16 how come 17 deletion? 18 Eric Forst 19 Twin 20 Get better! 21 Article message boxes 22 Unprotection of Wikipedia:Article message boxes 23 Other lists 24 Wikipedia Weekly interview? 25 Message box backgrounds 26 Plan 27 List of Quakers 28 ANPR 29 Deletion 30 List of nontheists AfD 31 Smallville 32 Talk page comments 33 Tristraum deleted 34 Reverting my change of Amniotic sac 35 Shut up and drive 36 Get well soon... 37 Hi there 38 Pulp Fiction (film)

Archive 11 – Posts from August 2007 to date

[edit] SundarBot

Thanks for informing the problem with SundarBot, Violetriga. It's a standard Interwiki bot. But, this time I tried changing the configuration and that's why such problems, I think. I've now stopped the bot. Will try it out later after fixing the issues. -- Sundar ^{\talk \contribs} 11:57, 20 August 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for unblocking SundarBot. -- Sundar ^{\talk \contribs} 07:54, 21 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Unusual articles request

Hi there. I realized what I did wrong with the script with regard to the unusual articles creators, and posted the result back on WP:BOTREQ. Let me know if this is what you were looking for, after all :) ɑʀкʏɑɴ 15:30, 20 August 2007 (UTC)

Sorry about the delay in getting this worked out but I've finally got it done :) It looks like you are indeed the most unusual contributor to Wikipeida, for what it's worth. ɑʀкʏɑɴ 20:00, 20 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] DYK

On 21 August 2007, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Theo Marzials, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

--Carabinieri 13:18, 21 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] DYK (24 August)

On 24 August 2007, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Shoeshiner, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

Laïka 19:36, 24 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] DYK

On 26 August 2007, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Mary Ann Bevan, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

--Carabinieri 20:10, 26 August 2007 (UTC)

I added an image which was much needed - wow shes gorgeous!!!!!!!!!!!!! ♦ Sir Blofeld ♦ ^"Talk"? 21:26, 26 August 2007 (UTC)

P'S I love your oddball articles. Cool - check out Yak racing - it took me ages to convince people!! ♦ Sir Blofeld ♦ ^"Talk"? 21:27, 26 August 2007 (UTC)

On August 27, 2007, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Toy advertising, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

Thanks again Violet. Blnguyen (bananabucket) 02:22, 27 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] John Smeaton (baggage handler)

Damn, I had a note on my main page to nominate this article a second time... but you beat me to it... and I missed the second go around... Balloonman 04:49, 27 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Essay move

As discussed on the village pump last week, I'm starting to move essays to people's userspace if they haven't been edited by others (not counting typo fixes etc). Since there's a lot of pages in CAT:E, I'd appreciate some help. Other people suggested deleting some of the worse essays, or adding {{merge}} tags as appropriate; I'll leave that up to people's discretion. >Radiant< 11:22, 27 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Sophomore

No, actually, you're the one going against what we discussed. You are still deleting instances of it, instead of linking to it like agreed, and referring to it as an "Americanism", when that also was not agreed. I'm fixing it, actually. You're the one who's wrong. Bouncehoper 19:55, 28 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Notification of ANI thread

See Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents#Block of Bouncehoper by Violetriga. You shouldn't have done this, really. Try to keep your cool. Melsaran (talk) 20:38, 28 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Wikipedia:Biographical content

I wholeheartedly support the need for such a guideline. If you start it, I will certainly lend a hand. Agne^Cheese/^Wine 17:53, 29 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Placeholder images

You said you liked the colouring of the originals better than the new design, but there are two new ones, the blue and the gray. Do you dislike both? — Omegatron 23:09, 29 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Request for arbitration

I am filing a request for arbitration against you. Please see Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration#Violetriga. John254 16:08, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] So Small

Hi Violetriga! I'm really sorry I wasn't able to add a decent explanation for reverting your edits. Right now I'm very busy finishing my school summer assignments and I didn't have enough time to write it out. Also, I was more busy editing the article "Hate That I Love You", and next time I won't forget, I promise. However, regarding your edits I have only two objections. One is the use of second album instead of sophomore album. I'm sure as debut refers to a first album, sophomore refers to a second album. And finally, the reversion of (2007), I think it's obvious it was released on August of 2007 since you can pretty much see it on the infobox, but I was trying to place it next to the album's name, since the album will be released this year. Again, I'm really sorry I wasn't able to explain the changes I made, and I wasn't trying to start an edit war. Thank you in advance, I hope you can reply to this message as fast as possible XD. Bull Borgnine 08:04, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Some thoughts

Thank you for replying! The explaining really helped me alot. However I have some final thoughts that might need your consideration. I think it would be better if we show the two release dates separately. Also we can add the 2007 in music link without being "piped" at the end of the introductory paragraph. And we can probably add that Carrie underwood was the fourth season American Idol winner. In other words, would it be OK if the introductory paragraph looks like this XD?:

"So Small" is a song composed by fourth-season American Idol winner and American country pop singer Carrie Underwood, Hillary Lindsey and Luke Laird. It is the first single from her second studio album, Carnival Ride, released in Canada on August 14, 2007, and in the United States on August 28, 2007. (See 2007 in music).

That's all, I think these edits could improve the article much, much more. Bull Borgnine 10:39, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] h2g2 template

Hi, I have commented on the deletion of this template here. Take a look if you get a chance. Thanks. Stu ^{’Bout ye!} 21:20, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

Hi, sorry to barge in again. Did you get a chance to look at the help desk archive? Stu ^{’Bout ye!} 20:26, 17 September 2007 (UTC)

Sorry - I got distracted on many fronts and forgot to reply. I'm not sure how best to proceed with H2G2. I love the project and think it has some great content, but I'm not sure if we should link to it because we generally don't link to wikis or blogs (and this is kinda similar). I certainly don't think we should use it as a reliable source, and think that we should have a centralised discussion about this somewhere. Such communications are often rather difficult on Wikipedia though. violet/riga (t) 20:31, 17 September 2007 (UTC)

No, definitely not as a source. More as a external link template. WP:EL#What should be linked does suggest an h2g2 template could be ok, but I admit it is borderline. Is DRV the proper forum? Stu ^{’Bout ye!} 08:12, 18 September 2007 (UTC)

For the template itself I think DRV would be the way to go. For the debate in general I think there needs to be another venue, but at least the DRV would spark such discussions. violet/riga (t) 08:16, 18 September 2007 (UTC)

I'll maybe start a discussion at the Village pump and get some opinions before going to DRV. Thanks. Stu ^{’Bout ye!} 09:33, 18 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] how come

you haven't come back to finish the discussion at MUSTARD? Bouncehoper 18:47, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

I've been busy with other things and only been able to have short bursts on here, not the time to ponder and respond. violet/riga (t) 19:00, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] deletion?

why was my mister green page deleted? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Wontmakeitmusic (talk • contribs) 18:13, 10 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Eric Forst

Thanks for deleting the "Eric forst" page. My name is Eric Forst, and I used to play in rock bands (see links to Jakarta Skyscraper and Tart Garage Records in Google search of my name), but never in Canada. Some of the other bio information you deleted matches me (I saw cached version in Google link..can you get that out, too?), but most doesn't...it almost seems that someone put up a skewed version of my life. Could someone be slandering me? I'm glad you removed it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.130.93.155 (talk) 04:00, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for your comment. The Google cache version will disappear shortly, so that problem will be resolved. Hopefully the article will not be created again, and there are no signs yet that it will be, but if it is we can easily deal with it. violet/riga (t) 10:42, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Twin

Per wikirage.com, the article Twin received heavy editing today by unregistered users and may benefit from a good review. Per Wikipedia Page History Statistics, you are one of the top contributors to that page. If you have the time, would you please read over the article and make any necessary changes. Thanks. -- Jreferee ^(Talk) 05:30, 13 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Get better!

I just read your note via the template standardisation talk page. I hope you're ok, under the circumstances. I'm guessing you've got a halo for a while? Get better quickly! Cheers! -- Flyguy649 ^talk _contribs 17:59, 14 September 2007 (UTC)

Please do get well soon! A neck is a terrible thing to break. ←Ben^B4 23:03, 14 September 2007 (UTC)

Thanks. violet/riga (t) 10:35, 15 September 2007 (UTC)

Get well soon Violetriga, Blnguyen (bananabucket) 07:47, 21 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Article message boxes

Thanks for the page move to Wikipedia:Article message boxes. And thanks for all your other good work in this project. I just took a look back in the archives and this is pretty much your project, with a little help from the rest of us. Today I was asked by the Wikipedia Weekly who in this project they should interview. Now I realised that the choice is simple, I am going to point them to you.

Oh, and get well! Unfortunate that bicycle helmets don't protect necks. By the way, take an advice from me, when your spine has healed that is: When I was 15 the doctors wanted to put me in a wheelchair for the rest of my life due to my neck and back injuries. I refused and instead went to the best naprapath in my city. Nowadays I dance and teach ballroom dances like the jitterbug! A chiropractor or a osteopath can be a decent alternative too. But for all of them it of course depends on individual skill.

--David Göthberg 16:07, 17 September 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for both the compliment and the nice message. Unfortunately my accident involved landing directly on one of my front teeth, knocking it out and cutting my top lip quite a bit. This means that speaking isn't one of my strong points right now and I'd feel quite bad having it recorded. Since you have been so involved and have really done more work on the project than me I think that you would be an ideal candidate. violet/riga (t) 17:24, 17 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Unprotection of Wikipedia:Article message boxes

Please revert yourself. You are an involved party in the dispute and it is not appropriate for you to use admin tools in this way. It is just as well to have a pause while discussion is ongoing. Tyrenius 04:31, 18 September 2007 (UTC)

What? That's a bit silly really. violet/riga (t) 08:01, 18 September 2007 (UTC)

I have posted at Wikipedia:Administrators'_noticeboard/Incidents#Violetriga_use_of_admin_tools_in_a_dispute. Tyrenius 19:18, 18 September 2007 (UTC)

There's no fire, dude. Violetriga hasn't done anything wrong. We have a lot of healthy discussion going on, and people are getting along. -- Ned Scott 19:37, 18 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Other lists

Hello Violetriga! How are you? You nominated List of Christians for deletion and now it is deleted. What about other similar lists? We have lists like List of atheists, List of Muslims, Lists of Jews....and so on. I think these lists should also be deleted. We have category. I don't thnik we need such lists. Any comment? RS1900 05:20, 18 September 2007 (UTC)

I agree that we need to attend to those lists and have been planning too. Hopefully I'll get around to looking at them today. Thanks, violet/riga (t) 08:03, 18 September 2007 (UTC)

Please look at them. And, please reply what you think on my talk page. All the best. RS1900 06:09, 19 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Wikipedia Weekly interview?

Hi there, I've been informed by David Göthberg that you are the person who is most involved with the Wikipedia:Article message boxes standardisation. I was wondering if you would like to come on Wikipedia Weekly Podcast to discuss it and describe the problem, process, outcome... We record over Skype so you would need that programme and a microphone headset. Does this sound interesting to you? Cheers, Witty Lama 10:43, 18 September 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for the message. Please see #Article message boxes above for an explanation why I sadly won't be able to help with this at the present time. violet/riga (t) 10:57, 18 September 2007 (UTC)

Oh that's a shame, get well mate! Witty Lama 13:03, 19 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Message box backgrounds

Hi violet/riga, since you were the main person to voice opposition to the (previous shade of) grey for the article message box backgrounds, I was wondering if you could offer an opinion on the current suggestion. Thanks for your time! Kaldari 18:49, 18 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Plan

I am planning to nominate all the lists based on religion/non-religion for deletion. I need your support. RS1900 04:53, 20 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] List of Quakers

You have changed this article to a redirect apparently on the basis that it included living persons and was an unmanageable list like "List of Christians".

Most of the Quakers listed, I believe, are dead and there is a rather more finite number of Quakers than of Christians.

The list has a particularly useful function in listing people with Quaker roots, separately. People are frequently thought to be Quakers because they had Quaker parents or grandparents. It is useful to have this list separated from those who were Quakers by belief and action.

Could you refrain from arbitary actions without a "talk discussion", please? Vernon White ^{. . . Talk} 19:04, 20 September 2007 (UTC)

Being bold is not a bad thing, especially when it deals with sources and BLPs. While I don't doubt that the article could have good content we shouldn't detail a person's religion without a reference. violet/riga (t) 19:31, 20 September 2007 (UTC)

"The Wikipedia community encourages users to be bold when updating articles." but not destroying them! Vernon White ^{. . . Talk} 23:14, 20 September 2007 (UTC)

Articles that contain bad content are worse than not having an article at all. violet/riga (t) 07:43, 21 September 2007 (UTC)

So discuss how they might be improved, pleaee. Vernon White ^{. . . Talk} 15:31, 28 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] ANPR

Thanks for the message. I thought i would investigate how adopted the tracking network is. I think it would scare most people if they knew the power of the database. I am thinking of expanding the "mass surveilence" section. Keep up the good work.Chendy 19:23, 20 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Deletion

Hello Violetriga. How can I nominate an article for deletion? I want to nominate List of nontheists and Nontheism for deletion. I also like to nominate other unencyclopedic lists for deletion. Please answer the question on my talk page. Thank you. RS1900 10:31, 23 September 2007 (UTC)

Thank you for the information. RS1900 11:45, 23 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] List of nontheists AfD

Hello Violetriga! I have nominated Nontheism and List of nontheists for deletion. Please see: Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of nontheists. Thank you. RS1900 02:21, 26 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Smallville

Um, punctuation marks come inside the quote mark when you are quoting someone. Why did you put them on the outside?  BIGNOLE  (Contact me) 12:34, 27 September 2007 (UTC)

In US English Grammar. Per MOS punctuation style most punctuation goes outside of the quotation marks unless you are quoting the full sentence/paragraph. violet/riga (t) 12:42, 27 September 2007 (UTC)

Then maybe you should change this section, because the sentence they use isn't a complete sentence that they are quoting. The British style is the one that is going on the outside.  BIGNOLE  (Contact me) 12:44, 27 September 2007 (UTC)

This was something brought up in the FAC, that they go on the "inside" of the quote marks.  BIGNOLE  (Contact me) 12:46, 27 September 2007 (UTC)

I don't think it was properly discussed there. Please see WP:PUNC which clearly states: "Punctuation marks are placed inside the quote marks only if the sense of the punctuation is part of the quotation (this system is referred to as logical quotation)" violet/riga (t) 12:54, 27 September 2007 (UTC)

I see where you were pointing. I undid myself. It's kind of odd that the MOS contradicts what it says on another page. I would think that the MOS would be that we should follow the country of origin, as we do with the spelling of certain words.  BIGNOLE  (Contact me) 12:55, 27 September 2007 (UTC)

It is an unusual case, yeah. Regards, violet/riga (t) 12:55, 27 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Talk page comments

I do not see why or how, your comment had any relevence to the conversation. And, how did you have the right to say "don't ever remove my comments". That sounds like an order. In case you didn't know, "adminship is not a trophy" or position in a heirarchy. Dreamy ^\*/_!$! 21:52, 27 September 2007 (UTC)

It has nothing to do with being an admin, it is standard protocol that we simply don't remove comments from talk pages unless we really have to. What did you hope to achieve? The comment was appropriate and did respond directly to part of the conversation. violet/riga (t) 21:54, 27 September 2007 (UTC)

It just didn't make sense to say what you said, and I am sorry for my retort, if you are sorry for ordering me around. Dreamy ^\*/_!$! 21:56, 27 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Tristraum deleted

Violetriga,

I went in to add content to the Tristraum band page today and discovered it deleted. From everything I've read, the article contained proper standards. It cited notable publications and had footnotes. The band has over 30 official releases and has been writen about dozens of times. I realized that some formatting issues were pending. But hadn't been able to get to them yet.. Can you republish the article so I can correct and update information? The flag about copyright infringement was removed since all of the information was provided from a band member directly and with permission.

What steps should I take to dispute this?

Thanks —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.208.26.178 (talk) 06:08, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

I've worked on the article a bit, restoring it and giving it a quick copyedit. violet/riga (t) 09:01, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

Appreciate the help. Just getting the hang of correct formatting. Thanks for your edits. I'll be a quick-learn! -Randall —Preceding unsigned comment added by 209.111.92.118 (talk) 16:26, 11 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Reverting my change of Amniotic sac

Hi,

I couldn't help noticing you reverted my change to Amniotic sac. I must say that I partly agree with your comment that the template has been deleted and should not be recreated otherwise. I was not aware that the code I borrowed from Pre-ejaculate was not allowed to be used in other articles. I was just looking for a way to hide the picture in the absence of mentioned template and thought I had found a solution. Perhaps you can help me. I was trying to hide a picture that might be considered offensive or otherwise not fit for general viewing. Do you know of a template that could be used to protect/warn people of such content? Perhaps a banner that can be used at the beginning of the article or section. I've searched for it but apart from the deprecated template was not able to find anything. ʍαμ$ʏ5043 08:20, 8 October 2007 (UTC)

The difficulty is that people can't decide if such images should be hidden or not, and the discussions on Talk:Amniotic sac have not help us to agree which way to go. I undid your change because I feel that the deletion debate of the template that hides images in such a way seemed to show a general opposition to such an implementation. Personally I don't find the image offensive or disturbing but I am sympathetic to your reasoning. I don't think further discussion will yield a solution so we seem to have come to a deadlock, so I'm not sure how we should progress this now. I would have to go with the general disclaimer covering such content, and see the fact that the image is no longer at the top of the article as a partial compromise. violet/riga (t) 08:55, 8 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Shut up and drive

I just wanted to say that I agree with you with what you said on the talk page for this article. You WERE discussing an aspect of the article, so don't listen to "17 drew" I can see he isn't experienced as you. --220.101.48.24 23:17, 9 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Get well soon...

I Just wanted to ASK, What does it Take, or how Do I BECOME, and administrator.

Recently you edited one of my mistakes, and for THAT I apologize. And PLEASE do get well soon. I HOPE you're injuries are'nt too severe to overcome...

Jonathan —Preceding unsigned comment added by Shyjayb (talk • contribs) 06:13, 11 October 2007 (UTC)

Thanks - I'm getting there. Adminship is dealt with through WP:RFA and all the info you want is on there. Cheers, violet/riga (t) 10:56, 11 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Hi there

Just curious about the change on John Mayer. Usually the idea behind commas is to make the sentence clearer, which, as I saw, was the case. How come you feel otherwise? Bufftractor53 04:51, 14 October 2007 (UTC)

If a sentence has lots of commas it starts to get very hard to parse and people lose track of what is being said. It is often a good idea to break a very long, comma-heavy sentence into two. violet/riga (t) 07:48, 14 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Pulp Fiction (film)

Great job reformatting the plot summary. Thank you.—DCGeist 15:20, 14 October 2007 (UTC)

That's quite alright - thanks. violet/riga (t) 15:23, 14 October 2007 (UTC)