User talk:Veinor

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[edit] Men's Health

You just reverted the changed I had made to Men's Health. I would refute the suggestion that I was using Wikipedia as a 'soapbox'. The section about my organization contained spelling mistakes, and didn't accurately describe our activities. Also also added a link to our website - under external links which is completely related to the topic. Also the internal link to Men's Health Week should be of interest to anyone reading about Men's Health. Mens1 (talk) 16:28, 28 April 2008 (UTC)

I accidentally changed too much back; the big problem I have is with the extra paragraph you added. It reads at least to me too much like an advertisement for the organization, rather than text about men's health in general.
By the way, I would advise you not to make edits related to MHN, as we have guidelines against editing articles about subjects with which you have a conflict of interest; I'm not saying you can't edit the article at all, just not about Men's Health Network. Veinor (talk to me) 16:31, 28 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Regarding Greater Slovenia being deleted

I think that WP:SYN is meant not as an excuse for deletion but as the way of forcing editors to source better - which doesn't imply that sources are invalid. Also when some sources and editors are accused for OR there should be sufficient evidence of OR being done especially by disproving the sources used. None of that has happened but instead a bunch of users claimed OR and got a way with such unsupstantiated claims. -- Imbris (talk) 20:35, 28 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Under what circumstances can a book be referenced

Had links deleted, having tried to list a book. If substantive content is added to the page and the book is referenced... is that the only possible way to reference a book? It is an odd thing, because the book in question is itself substantive and should be listed with other sources of further information.Empathy321 Empathy321 (talk) 14:53, 29 April 2008 (UTC)

If the book is referenced or listed as "further reading" or something, that's okay. The problem is that you linked to a specific store, which tends to be seen as promoting that source specifically to the exclusion of others (Amazon, eBay, etc.) The usual way to reference a book is to just give the ISBN in the format: ISBN 123-4-56-789012-3 (or ISBN 1234567890 if the 13-digit ISBN isn't available). See WP:ISBN if you need more information about the format it needs to be in. Veinor (talk to me) 14:56, 29 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] AfD Closes

Regarding your note here, you're right that I was initially neglecting to put the {{ab}} template at the bottom (for example Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Chris Ken Idenouye and Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/GMC Terradyne). However another editor pointed this out to me and I thought I had corrected the problem in my recent AfD closes (for example Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Damon Scott, Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Linda Burdette, and Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Al Qiyamah. If I'm wrong and there is still a problem in how I am closing these please let me know. My apologies for the initial errors—I'm new to the AfD closing game and have very little experience dealing with templates but I still should have been more careful.--Bigtimepeace | talk | contribs 17:41, 29 April 2008 (UTC)

Yeah, all three of those look fine to me. Veinor (talk to me) 04:41, 30 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Rockbridge Forum

I just noticed that that you deleted the entry for Rockbridge Forum, "speedily", so we had no opportunity to provide supporting information. You suggested that it might be recreated if justified. I do not have the original source material and so this is a burden, and appears rooted in a unilateral and somewhat arbitrary decision. The Rockbridge Forum is a unique online collaborative forum, an example of the "new media", in Rockbridge County, Virginia. Although clearly of smaller scale and somewhat different character, it shares some attributes with Wikipedia itself, which is listed in Wikipedia. Other media, even those in small towns and less populated regions, find a place in Wikipedia and I would argue that equity provides a compelling argument for inclusion in this case. Can you provide the original posting material so that I may recreate it? At the same time, I will provide the suggested defense and support for carrying this article. --qmhdk (talk) 17:58, 3 May 2008 (UTC) PS. It's been nearly a week since I posted this - I would be grateful for a reply. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Qmhdk (talkcontribs) 16:20, 9 May 2008 (UTC)

Well, I don't agree or disagree with the statement that Rockbridge Forum is useful; however, this is not a valid criteria for deletion/inclusion. You need reliable sources written about the forum; there weren't any mentioned in the article, so I deleted it. Oh, and I noted that the time between article creation and deletion was almost a month, so I do think that you had time. But I am willing to undelete it to User:Qmhdk/Rockbridge Forum, where you can work on it, include reliable sources referencing it, etc. Let me know when you want me to take a look at it again. Veinor (talk to me) 17:43, 10 May 2008 (UTC)

Thank you very much. I'll work on it again and try to respond to some of your suggestions. I just don't follow these things as closely as you do so even a month wasn't enough in this case. Cheers ...--qmhdk (talk) 03:16, 14 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Autobytel

You deleted an earlier version of Autobytel created by another editor. I wanted to let you know that I found some useful references about the company and added them to the article. I think the article now establishes notability. --Eastmain (talk) 00:23, 7 May 2008 (UTC)