Talk:Taos Revolt

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Contents 1 Tomás' surname 2 WP:MilHist Assessment 3 massacres 4 Turley's Mill

[edit] Tomás' surname

The Taos Indian Tomás' surname in this article is listed as "Romero", but in the Siege of Pueblo de Taos article, it is listed as Baca. All my sources refer to him only as either Tomás or Tomasito (Spanish diminutive for Tomás, akin to the English "Tommy"), and give no surname. I am assuming that Tomás Baca and Tomás Romero are one and the same person, given the detail about Tomas Baca's death in the Siege of Pueblo de Taos article. What are the sources for the surnames Baca/Romero as pertain to Tomás/Tomasito?

In Spanish language it is quite common to have two surnames, one inherited from each parent. English sources tend to get it wrong thinking the first surname (the father's) is the middle name, so they cite the mother's surname instead. It wouldn't suprise me if Tomasito's full name where either "Tomas Romero Baca" or "Tomas Baca Romero". I don't know for sure if this may be the case, but it is still a possibility. -- Rune Welsh | ταλκ 21:37, 25 January 2006 (UTC)

Agreed, although it was also common for the Mexicans of the time to give Indians Spanish first names without regard for surnames, like Victorio, Manuelito, and Geronimo. --Murcielago 21:45, 25 January 2006 (UTC)

I found the "Romero" last name in a couple of places, but in front of me is Durand's The Taos Massacres, which I think is in the references, but if not, I'll add it. Carptrash 23:26, 25 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] WP:MilHist Assessment

A very nice start, this article just needs overall expansion. All the sections seem quite short, but the introduction in particular needs help - it should tell the average reader the basics of all he needs to know, just in the intro. Also needs a military conflict infobox and/or a picture. That top right-hand section looks empty as is. LordAmeth 11:28, 9 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] massacres

Does anyone mind if I change "Massacres" to "revolt"? this is the title of the article and possibly less POV. Musaabdulrashid 23:47, 15 September 2006 (UTC)

Good idea. LordAmeth 00:49, 16 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Turley's Mill

I added some info on the fight, and the survivors, as well as a couple of references. Two of them are web articles, the Albert one citing an excellent list of references. The Tobin web article may not meet RS, but it's good info, confirmed by a book on Tobin I am also adding to the ref list, along with a Denver Post review of the book, which gives a good snynopsis. Crockspot 18:32, 17 September 2006 (UTC)