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[edit] Non-free image

I listed the following image as fair use disputed Image:Rod-stewart 60825.jpg. Considering the many messages you got about replaceable non-free content you should know that this image will never pass the Wikipedia:Non-free content criteria. Please read those before uploading any more non-free content. Garion96 (talk) 10:12, 9 June 2007 (UTC)

Well..the picture for the infobox in Madonna is Image:Madon1.JPG a free content image. Basically fair use/non-free content is only allowed when no free equivalent is available or could be created. With Rod Stewart a free content picture is definitely possible. Nevertheless a whole lot of articles still have non-free images which fail the non-free content criteria but slowly they will and are being removed. They usually are older uploaded files though, the Rod Stewart image was only uploaded a couple of days ago. Garion96 (talk) 22:15, 9 June 2007 (UTC)
There is a discussion somewhere about album covers, probably on Wikipedia talk:Non-free content. Right now (although as I said, this is under discussion) it probably fulfills the criteria in the article Modern Sounds in Country and Western Music, but not in the Ray Charles article. Plus it's not really comparable. A free image of that album is not available and will not be available until the copyright expires. A free image of Rod Stewart on the other hand is possible. Garion96 (talk) 23:47, 9 June 2007 (UTC)
No, it depends that Wikipedia in general has been extremely lax in enforcing the non-free content criteria. It's just too easy to google for an image, upload it and add it to the article instead of searching for a free content image, asking permission to release it under a free license etc. I am pretty sure that one day someone (doesn't matter if it will be an admin or not) will cleanup the Aerosmith article. Garion96 (talk) 00:27, 10 June 2007 (UTC)
Regarding the image you found of Rod Stewart. Image:RODSTEWARTFLICKR.jpg Yes, flickr is great resource for free content images. This image however is tagged on flickr with all rights reserved and is not released under a CC license. Garion96 (talk) 00:32, 10 June 2007 (UTC)
Boy, that Madonna article has definately excessive fair use images and songs. If I feel like it I will clean it up one time. Regarding flickr. Yes, that's very annoying with flickr. With public they mean that everyone can view the image, not that it is released in the public domain. You also can hide your pictures and only invite users to watch your images. See [1] for an image released under a license wikipedia can use. (For flickr images that is only cc-by and cc-by-sa). Garion96 (talk) 00:47, 10 June 2007 (UTC)
There is no blanket ban on album covers, which won't happen anyway. Although it might be more stricter, only have an album cover when you discuss the album cover. Compare the discussion of the cover in Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band article with the Thankful (Kelly Clarkson album) article . In general with non-free images they have to be used sparingly. They have to fulfil all of the Wikipedia:Non-free content criteria. In the Led Zeppelin article I don't think they do. Especially criteria #1 and #8. Garion96 (talk) 10:23, 10 June 2007 (UTC)
Could you please be careful about the licenses on the images you upload? I've had to delete a number of images because the copyright holder prohibited commercial use. --Carnildo 23:34, 16 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Image deletion

Try adding {{Db-reason}} to the image pages. If you click through to the template from here, it will give you instructions. --Dynaflow babble 22:31, 13 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Commercial use of Image:BOBBYBLUEBLAND.jpg

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[edit] Orphaned non-free image (Image:Chuckberry.jpg)

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[edit] Image deletion

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[edit] Orphaned non-free image (Image:Humblepierockin'thefillmore.jpg)

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[edit] Orphaned non-free image (Image:Stevemarriottmemorial.jpg)

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[edit] Orphaned non-free image (Image:Itchycoopark.jpg)

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[edit] Copyright issue with The Moments

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[edit] Wikipedia Music Project guidelines

Hi,

I see you are removing flags from artist infoboxes. In the comments you refer to the Wikipedia Music Project guidelines. Could you point me to these guidelines? I can't find any guidelines except for the infobox template guidelines.

Thank you! Emmaneul (Talk) 19:13, 9 July 2007 (UTC)

Hi, yes, it was news to me too, I have had flags removed and was cited re: "WP:FLAGCRUFT" by this user 156.34.142.110 Sue Wallace 19:18, 9 July 2007 (UTC)

I think you should definitely have discussed this in Wikipedia:WikiProject Music before making any changes. Flags in infoboxes are useful for seeing at-a-glance where artists are from. = ∫tc 5th Eye 19:51, 9 July 2007 (UTC)

every time I have put a flag icon in an infobox it has been removed, I have then gone in and put it back only to have it deleted again, with no discussion - see Humble Pie (band) - I am now just going along with what everyone else seems to be doing. Sue Wallace 19:54, 9 July 2007 (UTC)

People might delete the flags but if there is no policy or guideline to justify these actions, these large scale deletions should be discussed first. I think flags improve an infobox, so why delete them? Emmaneul (Talk) 20:33, 9 July 2007 (UTC)


I actually agree with you, I think flag icons are useful - and yes they should be discussed before being deleted - I would not have deleted if user 156.34.142.110 had not given the impression that this was the RULE - as I have now since found out it is NOT the rule, I shall cease amending flag icons and will keep an eye out for others deleting them unnecessarily - I'm really not interested in being drawn into an editing war with 156.34.142.110. Many thanks Sue Wallace 20:48, 9 July 2007 (UTC)

You're welcome :) Emmaneul (Talk) 20:56, 9 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] re: your question on my talk page

Hi Sue. I threw a quick reply to your query back on my talk page. If you want I can direct you to one of my Administrator friends who can probably clarify things much better than I can :) . Have a nice day. 156.34.142.110 21:44, 9 July 2007 (UTC)

I am, for the most part, a vandal hunter. If I missed any cruft then I apologise for hasty editing and giving you the wrong impression. My nickname is "Libs".. a name given to me be several Wiki-administrators.(reason: I am a Librarian) Myself and my co-workers are all Wikipedia editors. I am probably the most prolific among our group. My focus is, although not completely limited to, music related articles. I was, at one time, a logged editor with over 20000 edits. I was prompted over a dozen times to allow my name to stand as a Wikipedia Admin. I declined all nomination attempts. I am not here for personal glory... just positive contribution, community and concensus. Why am I an anon? A long time ago I began to notice a growing "anti-anon" movement within the project. I did not agree with this because, as a vandal hunter, I certainly saw just as much "red-link login" vandalism as I did IP vandalism. Wikipedia was built on the contributions of anonymous editors. I decided I wanted to re-birth a trust in anonymous editing and try and foster "IP integrity" within the WIkipedia community. I walked away from my login account. And, after over 20000 edits as an anon, hopefully I have accomplished just that. My IP tends to float as I walk around the University where I work. But when I am at my desk(the IP you've been messaging) my IP is static. And that IP has been awarded several barnstars for 156.34 contributions. Not many anonymous editors get those so I am humbled for the recognition my 156.34 colleagues and I have received. If you have any questions feel free to direct them my way. I have many friends among the Wikipedia admin gang. And if I can't answer your question... I am sure I can find someone who can. Have a nice day! 156.34.212.94 23:17, 9 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Lal Masjid

It seems unnecessary right now seeing that this user has been blocked for violating the 3RR policy. However, I don't have any doubt that he will be back, I've put him on my watchlist and I will keep an eye on him tomorrow after his block expires. Trusilver 00:56, 14 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Orphaned non-free image (Image:Itchycoopark2.jpg)

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[edit] Orphaned non-free image (Image:HUMBLEPIE4.jpg)

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[edit] Talk:Rolling Stones

Hi, I responded to your post there. You might find the essay WP:FLAG interesting reading as to where consensus is heading on this issue. --John 22:52, 21 August 2007 (UTC)

Can I ask that you refrain from over-personalising our stylistic disagreement? Once you start reading up on this you'll see that I am far from alone in preferring to have fairly conservative use of flags in Wikipedia. For a recent example of an edit-war that centred around this issue, see the history of the Gibraltar article. I really am only a very luke-warm Scottish Nationalist, and would never dream of selectively removing England flags, which I think you were implying at one point (apologies if I read something into your comments that you didn't intend). I remove any and all that I see that aren't doing a useful job. In the same way I also remove most instances of "It should be noted that...", as this too seldom adds value to an article. Another problem is that (at least in my opinion), the over-use of flags contributes to the dumbing-down of Wikipedia. Who are these people using the encyclopedia who don't get Zimbabwe, but need Flag of Zimbabwe Zimbabwe instead? Our readers can read, and a good encyclopedia isn't festooned with dozens of tiny flags every time a country is mentioned. However, although I am pretty firm in my preference here, I certainly don't mind debating it further with you. Please try to assume good faith and accept that I am working (as I'm sure you are) towards the betterment of the encyclopedia. --John 05:13, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Hi

Hi, I'm very sorry to bother you, I noticed your name when you edited one of the pages I've been vandal watching. Can I ask you please if you are Suzy Wallace from PC Zone UK magazine? I'll keep it hush hush if you are and delete this question. I was just asking out of curiosity. Sorry for taking up your time all the same :) Ryan4314 00:34, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

Well it was worth a shot finding out, but if it's ok with you, I'll just pretend that u were the journalist Suzy Wallace, and u asked me to keep it a secret and not to bug you with any questions, k? ;) Ryan4314 16:09, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Fair use disputed for Image:Silence is Golden The Tremeloes.gif

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[edit] Fair use rationale for Image:HumbleBigBlackDogsml.jpg

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[edit] Hot 'n' Nasty (Humble Pie song)

Hi. I removed the speedy deletion notice from the above article. The criterion cited is for bands, not songs. I wanted to suggest that you might want to consider putting {{inuse}} at the top of articles you've created while you're still establishing them. I'm a member of Wikipedia:WikiProject Albums who frequently starts album articles, and I do this a lot just to be sure that people won't come in and start working on an article while I'm still setting it up. :) I'm not sure if it would have saved you the premature "speedy" request, but at least it might save you an edit conflict down the road. --Moonriddengirl 17:40, 18 September 2007 (UTC)

No star necessary. :) I'm happy if I was able to help. --Moonriddengirl 17:47, 18 September 2007 (UTC)


[edit] Fair use rationale for Image:The Krays Film 1990.jpg

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[edit] Wikipedia talk:Use of flags in articles

Hi again Sue. I noticed your post here, and, as you seem to be making a personal complaint about me rather than a general observation about the topic, I thought I would try answering your points here.

There are three things that concern me about your post.

  1. By referring to me as "admin. John" you might make people think that I had used my admin powers in this matter. This would be highly inappropriate and is not something I have done or threatened to do, nor is it something I would ever do. On a matter like this I am not acting as an an admin but just an ordinary user like yourself.
  2. You state that I am "deleting flags en masse". A perusal of my contributions will reveal that this is untrue. I can see less than 10 instances of this in my last 200 edits. As you can see too, several of my recent removals were based on the discussion here. I am not removing flags en masse, but as part of my ordinary work in copyediting articles I do remove redundant flags whenever I see them. Removing flags en masse would not, I think, be justified at this stage; if I was doing so I would expect criticism for it. I'd like you to recognise the distinction I am making here and refrain from mis-stating what I am doing in the future, please.
  3. You said that "...John decided to edit an article I happen to have had a lot of input on (Small Faces) he deleted images (with no warnings) oh and removed the flag icon - he has never edited this article before..." I deleted nothing; in fact I removed several images from the article which were being used in contravention of their fair use rationales. Album covers are not considered to be fair use in band articles. One does not own articles here and I am perfectly entitled to edit any of our 2 million articles without seeking your permission, as long as I abide by policy. I believe I am doing so. If you believe otherwise, or if you have any other qualms about anything I am doing, the polite course of action would be to raise your concerns with me in the first instance. I would be grateful if you could do this in future. Best wishes, --John 15:29, 29 September 2007 (UTC)
Sue, thanks for your message, I appreciate it. As a matter of fact, I came to the Small Faces article while searching for instances of mis-spellings of Steve Marriott's name, following on from our previous conversation. There weren't any in that article, but I did correct one or two, see here. (User:Spellmaster is my alternative account for making semi-automated changes.) I know we disagree on the flags issue but I hope we can disagree respectfully as I believe that is one of the best thing about this community. Take care, --John 20:09, 29 September 2007 (UTC)
LOL, yes it is confusing sometimes, and there is the continual worry that someone might see it as sockpuppetry, even though I am totally upfront on both user pages about it. I adopted it in consequence of a suggestion made during my RfA last year. I suppose it makes it easier for people to scrutinise my contributions, which is a good thing. --John 20:42, 29 September 2007 (UTC)

Although it looks like you reverted your statement that the flag use guideline is "being pushed through as quickly as possible", you should know that this guideline has been under discussion for almost a year now (or half a year in its current form), which is certainly a slow pace for anything on Wikipedia :) Kaldari 21:35, 2 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Disputed fair use rationale for Image:Humblepiealbumcover.jpg

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[edit] Typo on Jean Charles de Menezes

Hi, I just undid your quick edit to the above page, 'posited' is a real word, quite good English in fact.. Since this is not the Simple English Wiki, I think it is OK to have in the text. EasyTarget 08:58, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] 2007 Burmese anti-government protests

Hi Sue,

Thanks for your continued contributions to the 2007 Burmese anti-government protests page. Keep up the great work! --pmj 04:07, 16 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] User:131.94.172.86

Hi and thanks for your message. I had a look but they seem to have stopped right after your warnings. Let me know if you ever need help again with them. --John 14:24, 18 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Vandalism at Oe disambiguation page

That whatever-it-was from Edinburgh -- could that have been somehow appropriate "vandalism" ...? This odd addition was several weeks old ... and I've wondered about it since it was first posted. The initial placement was outside the conventional listing space, and I construed it as a curious kind of digital grafitti. In fact, I was loathe to remove it while I continued to ponder. Now that you've made a decision for us all, I dare ask for an explanation: (1) How did you come to this specific disambiguation page? (2) Why did you edit this specific page as you did? Curious question, I know; but please indulge me and these related questions. --Ooperhoofd 20:33, 26 October 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for your clear response to a muddled set of questions. It was odd, I know -- but I wondered?
I came to the disambiguation page because I was beginning to look into the Ōe clan in the Sengoku period of Japanese history. I don't exactly recall how it played out, but there was some kind of conflict involving the 1994 Nobel laureate in literature, Kenzaburo Oe. As you may know, Oe's son, Hikari Oe, is autistic; and as a writer, the father's life-long efforts to understand and value his son's unique perspective have modulated the broad viewpoint from which he begins to write. That hyper-sensitivity to the non-standard is doubtless one of the factors which persuaded the Nobel committee to select this Japanese writer from amongst a range of other authors being considered that year.
In other circumstances, I'm guessing that I would have quickly deleted the Edinburgh grafittists with naught but "rv" as an explanation. In this case, however, I was moved by the impression left by the several Oe books I'd read. I was given pause ....
Now that I see the way you came to the Scots "OE" gang -- that you were following a chain of anonymous vandalism, there remains no defensible reason see the line on a disambiguation page as anything but clutter. I was wrong, of course ... but this seems to me like one of those times in which I am unembarrassed to have been so bluntly wrong-headed.
Thanks again for indulging me on this.
Also, I must tell you that I did like one other thing: I was pleased that you allowed for the possibility that there might be something more to what appeared at first blush to be pointless. Your edit here was guided by a concern for what could prove to have value in the long-term context of the Wikipedia project. You asked yourself, "Is this noteable?" Answer: "No." I hope in future that I'll emulate your example. Maybe I'll remember to ask myself the same question next time. --Ooperhoofd 22:28, 26 October 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] New word

The word "witnesses" has appeared in the article on Stephen Lawrence. Perhaps, we could have their names.

Still, no names are given, other than that of Brooks. Leftist rags use the plural, but there are contradictions.

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[edit] Amy Winehouse

You have deleted a lot my edits on this topic lately. I understand that this is the type of thing you have to live with if you decide to edit a Wikipedia article. All I ask is for consistency. I have used the British tabloids because they have been a lot more accurate then the official spokespeople who keep on claiming some variation of exhaustion. Recently I did not use a cite where one of her family members predicted disaster if her husband did go to jail. I did not use it because I was afraid my edit would get deleted because it was from a tabloid and there were already family member quotes in the section. Considering the events that followed I now feel I ill served our readers by not putting it in. I did put back in the tour managers claim that he quit because he was tested positive for heroin based on second hand smoke from her because it was from ABC News a major American Network and not a tabloid and therefore a reliable cite based on any guideline one might use. Deciding the reliability of the tour manager is not a decision for you or me to make but that news organization. I have refrained so far from putting back deletions from British tabloid cites because I am American and feel that British editors would have a better understanding of their tabloids then I do. But I notice that half the cites in the article remain from the Mirror,Mail,Sun etc. So if my cites from the same sources are getting deleted I do have to wonder. As I said earlier all I ask for is consistency. I will gladly abide by a rule that only the BBC,Times of London, Guardian and that type of source can be used but if but if "tabloid" sources are going to be used please then let me make judgments on reliability. Edkollin (talk) 21:43, 28 November 2007 (UTC)

Thank you for your quick response. I find the idea that Wikipedia is an online version of a regular encyclopedia one of those myths editors (including me for awhile) fool themselves into believing. I have Microsoft Encarta and they have no Amy Winehouse article as of today. They have one paragraph on the Sex Pistols and call New Wave a form of postpunk music when in fact Post Punk and New Wave are different genres. Wikipedia is part of the tabloid culture. It is said that unless you have a Wikipedia article written about you you are a nobody. I see the ABC News article has been left in. Just a note I have not seen the tour managers claims in any British tabloids. The American tabloids only differ from the U.K.'s in that there is no "knock you up" phase before they knock you down. But what should matter if is what is written accurate. As far as being trying not to keep the articles from being "overly negative" that is not our job. Amy Winehouse's personal life is "overtly negative" her music is well received and that is what the article portrays. I wrote she looked emaciated and had white powder on her nose that is what the pictures in the cite showed. Also unusual about her personal life as I wrote in the regular discussion page is the singer,her family and friends have run to the press to discuss seemingly everything. So you have a lot of notable quotes and they are in the tabloids.If Brittany Spears went on the pub crawl and ended up in a coma the publicist like Amy's would have said "exhaustion" everybody would have snickered and that would have been that. But Amy herself went to a tabloid to describe her bender. This is going to make her section inherently different then other celebrity biographies.Edkollin (talk) 08:52, 29 November 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Your edit to St Mary-le-Bow

Hi. I've been WP:BOLD and made your image the lead image in the article: the old one didn't really do justice. Best. --Old Moonraker (talk) 07:37, 7 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Harrods memorial

Hello, absolutely --I've been slowly working my way towards adding them there. I should have it done by the end of the day, I tend to do this sort of thing while working on some other stuff so I'm in-and-out of editing ;-) --Bobak (talk) 21:39, 7 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Re:Amy Winehouse

Thanks so much! Notes like that really keep me motivated. Thanks again.--Esprit15d • talkcontribs 13:38, 13 December 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Pictures from Flickr

I'm very weak on what makes an image acceptable to wikipedia, but I've found that if you upload a flickr image to Wikimedia Commons an admin comes along to check the licence and confirm it's in order. An example here. You are then preserved from having to deal with a rash of "possibly unfree image" comments (if it is a free image, of course). Apologies if I'm sticking my nose in here: I found that you are still on my watchlist from St Mary-le-Bow. Nil carborundum, and keep up the good work! --Old Moonraker (talk) 18:20, 14 December 2007 (UTC)

Yes, I missed that. Thanks for the clarification! --Old Moonraker (talk) 18:49, 14 December 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] December 2007

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[edit] Wikipedia:WikiProject Anglicanism

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[edit] Would you take a look?

An image used in the article on the first Bangladeshi pornstar Jazmin, Image:WorshipThisBitch3.jpg, the cover of the DVD that made her the selling point, a first for a Bangladeshi, is up for deletion here. You may be interested to take a look. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Aditya Kabir (talkcontribs) 21:44, 16 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Welcome!

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[edit] Bradford Canal

I'm afraid I had to remove your picture from Bradford Canal as it was of a different canal - the Leeds Liverpool Canal in Bingley. If you can find an image of the actual Bradford Canal please feel free to add it. NRTurner (talk) 10:38, 19 December 2007 (UTC)


[edit] Greenwich Millennium Village

Hi Sue Wallace: Thanks for uploading the picture for Greenwich Millennium village. Not to quibble, since I had been hoping someone might put one up for quite a while now, but I wonder if it is the best one to illustrate the project. From the site you found, I wonder if this one might be more evocative? http://www.flickr.com/photos/martinrp/1063329015/in/photostream/ Verne Equinox (talk) 04:31, 7 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] RfA thanks

Thank you for voting in my RfA, which which passed nem. con. with 45 support, 0 oppose, and 0 neutral. Thank you for your support and all the kind words that were expressed. I will try to live up to the trust placed in me by the community. I now have my homework to do and then pass the Marigolds.
Thanks for your kind words. Cheers Kbthompson (talk) 16:31, 9 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] London Meetup - January 12, 2008

Don't know if this is of interest, I only just heard about it:

Hi! There's going to be a London Wikipedia Meetup coming Saturday January 12, 2008. If you are interested in coming along take part in the discussion over at Wikipedia:Meetup/London7. The discussion is going on until tomorrow evening and the official location and time will be published at the same page late Thursday or early Friday. Hope to see you Saturday, Poeloq (talk) 02:51, 10 January 2008 (UTC)

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[edit] Copyvio

The information, as presented, is a blatant cut and paste of an IMDb listing. This is not to discourage you from creating such articles; indeed, it is a wonderful blow against the blatant recentism so endemic on Wikipedia. But if the IMDb people were to come after us, there would be no defense against a claim that we've taken not only the data they have aggregated, but also the manner in which it has been presented. Just take the same information, and turn it into a normal encyclopedia article. --Orange Mike | Talk 18:39, 17 January 2008 (UTC)

Oh, certainly it's worth working on; but I'd probably advise working in a private sandbox until you get it more satisfactorily formatted, preferably with added sources outside the IMDb (not always a reliable source anyway). --Orange Mike | Talk 18:48, 17 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] fairy tale

i love the world's shortest fairy tale. did you write it? --Lquilter (talk) 19:52, 17 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Photos from Flickr

Hi Sue, good to see you bringing in photos from Flickr. Suggestion - upload them to Commons, that way they are available to websites of all languages, not just English. regardsRcbutcher (talk) 07:43, 22 January 2008 (UTC)

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[edit] Quick request

In the future, if you could use {{Film}} instead of {{FilmsWikiProject}}, I'd be very grateful. Although the latter one automatically redirects to the former, it has been deprecated, and we're trying to phase out its usage as task force tagging slowly occurs over the next year or so. Knowing that it's not being added to new articles would put me greatly at ease. Thanks! Girolamo Savonarola (talk) 04:05, 31 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit]  :Image:Leigh on Sea shoreline.jpg

Had you considered Wikimedia commons for uploading free images?

Sfan00 IMG (talk) 21:31, 17 February 2008 (UTC)
Indeed I did, I even joined, only the first image I uploaded was promptly deleted, no warning, no reason, so... I'll let someone else do it instead. Sue Wallace (talk) 21:38, 17 February 2008 (UTC)
Commons is lot tougher on licensing .. That maybe why your upload got nuked... Sfan00 IMG (talk) 21:54, 17 February 2008 (UTC)
No, it had the same licensing as these I'm up-loading now. Hang on, I'll see if I can find the image. Sue Wallace (talk) 21:56, 17 February 2008 (UTC)
Sorry, I can't find it, went into my Commons log in, but it doesn't show anything uploaded. Sue Wallace (talk) 23:09, 17 February 2008 (UTC)

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[edit] Amy Winehouse

As a regular contributor to the Amy Winehouse article, you are invited to join the editing process of the article's personal life and controversy sections, temporarily located here. For discussion on recent issues, go here. For current discussions, go here.--Esprit15d • talkcontribs 14:22, 25 February 2008 (UTC)

No thanks Sue Wallace (talk) 02:11, 26 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Harrods

Why did you change my Harrods edits?

Also why do you agree with the sale of fur?

--81.109.107.198 (talk) 16:40, 28 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Good call!

This change to the lead image was more than bold, it was a stoke of artistic genius! Fantastic stuff! -- Jza84 · (talk) 22:59, 29 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] London Meetup - April 13th

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[edit] WikiProject Christianity Newsletter

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[edit] London Meetups - Sunday May 11th

We're hoping to have regular meetups in London. The next one is on May 11th Wikipedia:Meetup/London 9. Another Sunday lunch in Holborn. Come along! -- Harry Wood (talk) 11:36, 28 April 2008 (UTC)

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[edit] Speedy deletion of Image:Alresford Creek sunset.gif

A tag has been placed on Image:Alresford Creek sunset.gif requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section I9 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the image appears to be a blatant copyright infringement. For legal reasons, we cannot accept copyrighted images or text borrowed from other web sites or printed material, and as a consequence, your addition will most likely be deleted.

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