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Belfast City Hall Photo

Please remove my photograph of Belfast City hall that you copied from irish-architecture.com

Hi Paul, yes I'll remove that if you want. I realise the copyright information wasn't properly detailed and apologise for that. As Wikipedia is a non profit organisation would you consider letting the image stay if the copyright information is displayed prominantly? Like this:
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Copyright: irish-architecture.com.
Also, on the image's description page it states: "This image is being used for identification of a public building that is the subject of an article written for informational purposes. It is believed that the use of the image on Wikipedia does not undermine the potential market for the sale or licensing of this image."
However, if you would rather not it's fine. Cheers. Stu ’Bout ye! 15:41, 29 June 2006 (UTC)

New Irish Flag

Hey Stu! I notice you have a cool thing stating you support a new flag for N.I. How can I do something similar for the Republic (terrible colour scheme, they clash, etc ...). Cheers, and delighted to see another one of us on Wiki! Fergananim 13:39, 4 May 2006 (UTC)

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Electricity Generation in Ireland

Hey, Stu. Thanks for taking the time to add those articles - way cool! :-) Thanks again - Ali-oops✍ 16:18, 11 May 2006 (UTC)

Dates?

Hey Stu. I was wondering about your wikification of the article on Young Citizen Volunteers. You've changed the date formats throughout to a distinctly American style, when it had been in conventional British style previously. The sentence in Belfast City Hall on the 10 September 1912 is now grammatically incorrect, though I'm sure that was an oversight when you made the edits.

Shouldn't we keep the British version of the date format with British, or Western European based articles..? --Mal 20:00, 11 May 2006 (UTC)

Hi Mal, I tend to leave the "th" out of dates. Is this specifically American formatting? I just think it looks better! Stu ’Bout ye! 07:59, 15 May 2006 (UTC)

Ldog

In regards to the article on Ldog ther authors have posted their reason for having their article saved at their discussion page. --KaiAdin 22:08, 17 May 2006 (UTC)

Photos

As requested, I've started adding some of my Northern Ireland photos to Wikipedia. I'm listing them here as I add them. Cordless Larry 13:49, 20 May 2006 (UTC)

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Re : Sydney Roosters

If it's not included with the original one, it is best to send itfor AfD, just to be safe. - Best regards, Mailer Diablo 12:59, 2 June 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for that. Stu ’Bout ye! 13:04, 2 June 2006 (UTC)
  • I wasn't aware that the others had not been deleted, I didn't create it in ignorance of the others, it was always planned to be ongoing.

Also I wish I was notified about the deletion. Interesting enough is that Sydney Roosters 1911 Season has so far shown in favour of keeping it because of the additions I had made.

I explained this earlier on that there were more additions coming but that was ignored, yet here we see where the additions are in place and people are in favour of keeping it. Every season would be uniformed in structure, so if it justified that the seasons article can be kept, why were the others deleted without considering the updating I had done.

If the 1911 Season debate results in the keeping of the article http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Sydney_Roosters_1911_Season

then it should be only fair that the others are re-instated as they are identical in structure.

Is it possible for the articles to be re-installed as it was a time consuming process creating each page.

I'm disappointed that the article was deleted on the basis of its original structure, and not on the additions that had been put on, which show with the 1911 season a clear favour in keeping it.Sbryce858 02:07, 3 June 2006 (UTC)

I would like to protest the deletion based on the argument brought forward by Athenaeum in the http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Sydney_Roosters_1911_Season

Is there an avenue in which I can do that.

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Semiprotect your userpage?

You want me to semiprotect your userpage to keep the Lightbody vandal away from it? You'd still be able to edit it of course. Let me know. Syrthiss 14:48, 5 June 2006 (UTC)

That would be great Syrthiss, ta! Stu ’Bout ye! 14:52, 5 June 2006 (UTC)
Done! Syrthiss 14:53, 5 June 2006 (UTC)

Hi Stumason

Its probably on your watch page, but I edited the page on Fergal O'Hanlon for POV. I figured I'd drop you a courtesty line about it. I can't say I trust Tim Pat Coogan either, but I wouldn't dismiss him so cavalierly either. Check it out and let me know what you think on my talk page V. Joe 18:17, 7 June 2006 (UTC)

VJ here: About sentence, not to worry, it was my confusion. Cheers. V. Joe 08:06, 8 June 2006 (UTC)

Image:Colin MacIntyre.jpg

Sorry about that. I don't know why I didn't notice the fair use ratioanle on the page. Anyway, I've restored the image description page, but I'm not exactly sure where you got the image from, so you'll have to upload it again. Regards, howcheng {chat} 15:42, 8 June 2006 (UTC)

Liverpool Kits

Greets, Stu! I've went ahead and edit the kits, so I thought I should drop you a line. I have sources on the talk page, but I don't know how to cite them... Sorry! If you do, could you do it? Thanks! -x.qz 11:57, 10 June 2006 (UTC)

Edits

Hi. I was wondering how long it would take before you left me some sort of message on my talk page!!!!! You love changing all my edits or anyone elses about anything NI - very predictable!!! Good luck mate. Yeah whatever you like about the stubs, i'm not really that bothered to be honest its all the same really i guess

Oh and i'm more than aware that Portstewart is in Northern Ireland


Hi thanks for your message. another user has asked me to use Ni stubs and they are categorised under Uk and ireland. i didn't honesty see why it made a difference but i kind of do now. Feel free to change stuff - i was really only bantering with you earlier. I try to make sure evrything i write in wikipedia is accurate and sourced (sorry if its too much pasting). Anyhow all the best Wikinorthernireland 12:45, 12 June 2006 (UTC)

Ardoyne

Good work on the Ardoyne suicide ref. Gerry Lynch 20:57, 14 June 2006 (UTC)

Cheers Gerry. I just nicked one of your userboxes, hope you don't mind! Stu ’Bout ye! 07:58, 15 June 2006 (UTC)

User Belfast

Hi Stu - just noticed you've moved your userpage. Easy to do..?

Anyway, I think it was you that I nicked the Belfast userbox from, and I don't know if I'd said to you about it or not. I see you're using the template now, and I hope you didn't mind that I unashamedly stole it from you and created the template! Was thinking of crediting you for it on its discussion page. --Mal 08:03, 19 June 2006 (UTC)

Hi Mal. Not too hard to change it no. Finding a username that isn't already taken is the hard part! You can do it at Wikipedia:Changing username. And no problem about the template, no need for credit! Stu ’Bout ye! 08:06, 19 June 2006 (UTC)

Red Branch Knights

See you've been editing the RBK article.Not criticising just wondering how you edited it.So yeah how did you edit it?Dermo69

Hi Diarmuid. I'm not sure what you mean? Do you mean what did I do to the article? Basically, I tidied it up a wee bit. I removed a lot of over-linking - removing links to words like king, descendants, warriors, bank and economic. Articles shouldn't be overlinked - only relevant pages should be linked to. I also added a category and removed the "At their peak they probably had about 10 members at most and are considered defunct" sentence. I might be wrong, but this is really just speculation. Stu ’Bout ye! 07:51, 27 June 2006 (UTC)

Why did you remove what i wrote?It's correctDermo69

I tried to find a source for this Diarmuid, but couldn't find anything on Google. Where did you read it? Articles have to be verifiable, and from reliable sources. Stu ’Bout ye! 14:09, 30 June 2006 (UTC)

Ok.As you know from Google the majority of searches are related to the ancient red branch knights so im adding some stuff about them.You agree?Dermo69

Ireland, the island

Well technically places in Northern Ireland are in Ireland (the island). not much difference really. six of one and half a dozen of another! You wrote on my page "please don't state that areas in Northern Ireland are in Ireland. This is misleading.". Well its true and therefore not misleading. Northern Ireland is an integral part of the United Kingdom and also on the island of Ireland. Two facts nobody disputes!!- certainly not a neutral type like myself. Without regard to Northern ireland/ireland i just write whatever comes into my head at the time i'm writing it and i'll continue to do it so please don't post about it again!! i don't have any ulterior motives for writing what i do....i just write it!!!!! However feel free to change my ireland/northern irelands....chances are i just wrote whatever came into my head and won't notice any change! The 'Republic of Ireland' does not and should not have a monopoly over the word 'ireland'. Wikinorthernireland 17:53, 30 June 2006 (UTC)

Hi, thanks for your message. The established style in Wikipedia is to state the town or city's location by the county it is located in, not the island or general area. English town articles don't state that they are in Britain, and American town articles don't state that they are in North America. So it isn't really appropriate to write whatever comes into your head at the time. You'll notice that other people are changing articles you are writing along the same lines that I am. You would be saving other people's time by sticking with the norm. Stu ’Bout ye! 08:19, 3 July 2006 (UTC)

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NI Portal is Featured Portal candidate

Hey Stu. I was wondering if you'd like to weigh in with your opinion on this. Wikipedia:Featured portal candidates/Portal:Northern Ireland/archive1. Cheers, --Mal 20:46, 4 July 2006 (UTC)

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Lenny Murphy

Please keep an eye out on the Murphy page? There is very non-encyclopaedic and POV language being used for political reasons. I understand he evokes a lot of hatred and resentment, but POV is POV, except for some for whom it is only POV when you don't agree. I am only asking because I am very busy at work and cannot monitor as I would like to do.

Thanks!! ArgyllRover 12:22, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

Hi, and welcome to Wikipedia! Surprisingly, I've never even read the Murphy page. Probably one of the few NI articles I haven't. There are some minor POV corrections to be made. Plus a few links need to be fixed and references added. I'll try and do that today. Stu ’Bout ye! 13:07, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

Userboxes

Sorry, I didn't notice I was editing a vandalised version.

Are you sure you want to leave your userboxes as is? You really don't need an HTML table, which is why I edited it.

{{userboxtop}} before the userboxes and {{userboxbottom}} after them will produce a vertical table in the same way as your table code would do it. Wikicode can produce tables much easier than HTML can.

I also warned the vandal. — Nathan (talk) / 17:00, 28 July 2006 (UTC)

Hi Nathan, I've used userboxtop and userboxbottom now, it's just that the way you did it before the userboxes spread across the page. Cheers! Stu ’Bout ye! 08:01, 31 July 2006 (UTC)

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Northern Ireland edit war

Hi Stu. I've recently been banned (12 hours) for violating 3RR with regard to the Northern Ireland article.

Background

It had been decided in the article Constituent country that Northern Ireland was indeed one of the four constituent countries of the UK, and citations were included in the article and on the discussion page.

From that decision, it was logical to include this information on the Northern Ireland article itself. To that end, I edited the article to change the wording (which had, at that point, been changed to "constituent entities"). The Northern Ireland article was reverted several times, and on the talk page it had been suggested that citations were needed. Initially I pointed to the citations on the Constituent country article, and suggested some of the citations there were included in the NI article if it was thought really necessary.

Eventually, I added the citations myself - seven of them, expecting the most relevant ones to be kept and the others pruned. Apparently however, this was still not good enough for some editors who had been reverting the article.

Currently

As it stands at the time of writing this, I have reverted the article with the citations included. I fully expect this to be reverted again, as soon as certain editors get wind of it.

The article, when reverted to the "constituent entities" version has a large (what I would consider POV) footnote attached, explaining how nationalists reject any notion that Northern Ireland is a constituent country. How the term "constituent entity" is any better for nationalists is beyond me, save for the ommission of the word "country". It had been established on the Constituent country page that Northern Ireland is a country (within a country).

The phrase (which I have never heard of before) "constituent entity" is wikilinked to the Home nations article - which itself describes, in the introduction, how the home nations are "the four constituent countries of the United Kingdom — England, Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland".

Conspiracy

I have been accused of "launching racist abuse", making "snide attacks against Irish people" and "POV-pushing" on another article's talk page[[1]] by one editor involved in the dispute, who has also suggested I have been "up to his old antics" to a new editor (and generally sullying my name), and has been 'recruited' by another editor on his talk page.

I would appreciate your guidance and help on this matter, as I merely want to be factual as per usual for this Encyclopedia, if you have the time to spare.

Thanks for listening in any case. --Mal 14:28, 16 August 2006 (UTC)

Hi Mal. Yes, I've been watching the developments on this. As for the issue being discussed, Northern Ireland's status, I don't really know enough to become involved in the debate. To me the status isn't easy to define either way. I guess describing it one way could be construed as unionist POV pushing, the other as nationalist POV pushing. What I do agree with is that some of the allegations made against you are unfortunate, especially from JT as he is an admin. I also don't see any clear consensus on the NI talk page to suggest that it shouldn't be described as a constituent country, so your 3RR block was probably unfair. Or at least the others involved should have been blocked too. Stu ’Bout ye! 14:56, 16 August 2006 (UTC)

If anyone thinks that someone has fallen fowl of WP:3RR then the exceptions are very clear on what would be considered as an exception. Incidentially I have not "recruited" anyone, people can choose what "side" to take - if any.

Djegan 17:58, 16 August 2006 (UTC)

Update: I have requested a Peer review on the article. --Mal 12:37, 17 August 2006 (UTC)

Would Requests for comment not be more appropriate? The article could do with a PR, but RfC is specifically for content disputes. Stu ’Bout ye! 13:10, 17 August 2006 (UTC)

I'm not very familiar with this area of Wikipedia tbh. I read the WP:DR page and it seemed to point to the peer review as one of the steps towards dispute resolution. I wonder if I should also list it in RfC, or would that be overkill? I'll leave it as peer review for the time being, and see what attention it attracts. --Mal 13:27, 17 August 2006 (UTC)

I'm not that experienced with it either. Wait and see what the initial comments in PR are, then take it from there I guess? Stu ’Bout ye! 13:40, 17 August 2006 (UTC)

Bold title

Thanks for the bold title - I'm still learning the ropes. Cheers! SlapAyoda 15:30, 16 August 2006 (UTC)

No worries, happy editing! Stu ’Bout ye! 15:56, 16 August 2006 (UTC)

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Thanks for reverting the image article Stu. I was very surprised to see a Wikibot message on my talk page regarding the image as I had obtained the photographer's express permission to use it in Wikipedia via email! --Mal 16:27, 19 August 2006 (UTC)

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Changed license, so admins can mention this. --TH-Foreigner 22:29, 22 August 2006 (UTC)