User talk:RepublicanJacobite/Archive 2

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Americans in the Spanish Civil War

Hey, that removal of the info about the Abe Lincoln Brigade from the lead, actually WAS explained, and it kind of makes sense. The IP noted that by adding it there, the article becomes a bit US-centric. Otherwise, we would need to add notes about every nation that had volunteers show up for the fighting. The info is included further down in the article, so really doesn't need to be in the lead. Murderbike (talk) 02:52, 9 January 2008 (UTC)

It was kind of awkwardly given in a section of the talk page. It was unsigned (until SineBot took care of it), and in an older section, so totally easy to miss. Cheers! Murderbike (talk) 03:28, 9 January 2008 (UTC)

A note would definitely be warranted, leaving notes for IPs always feels fruitless to me, but ya never know. Murderbike (talk) 06:04, 9 January 2008 (UTC)

Aphrodite's Child

re Progressive rock - I'd argue they are notable. The band produced Vangelis and Demis Roussos, and their album "666" is considered a prog-rock classic, mostly for it's weirdness. Is there a problem if they go back in, particularly as the only 1960s Greek prog band? --Rodhullandemu (Talk) 02:25, 10 January 2008 (UTC)

OK, thanks, I'll revert & wikivlink it. --Rodhullandemu (Talk) 02:31, 10 January 2008 (UTC)

Burroughs

Thanks for the note. I just realized that the Canadian band mentioned seems to be different than Dead Fingers Talk (band) which is an American group and has its own article. If the band's existence can be verified and it isn't just an amateur group, I think we can get away with mentioning it in the article, though it probably isn't notable enough to warrant a separate article. 23skidoo (talk) 15:58, 11 January 2008 (UTC)

At last, I could use your help

Hey RepublicanJacobite,

This is Rimbaud 2--the guy who you asked to source my info for Bob Dylan being influenced by T.S. Eliot. You told me that, if I needed your help, not to hesitate to ask.

Well, here it goes.

I recently created a long-overdue entry for the poet Raegan Butcher--who is most well known for his association with the anarchist group Crimethinc (they published his first two poetry books): http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raegan_Butcher . It is my first ever Wiki entry (that I created that is).

I think I did a pretty swell job writing and editing it. I plan to continue editing and adding new links and info (and perhaps a picture). If you would care to, would you please look it over? It's currently a stub, so it won't take long. Edit it if you wish, or give me advice/instruction, or whatever.

Take care, and thanks alot man.

Yours Truly,Rimbaud 2 (talk) 01:17, 20 January 2008 (UTC)

Words of Advice: William S. Burroughs On the Road

Can you cast your eye over the above new page for cats etc. Opiumjones 23 (talk) 02:52, 21 January 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for your advice and help. Perhaps link as needed. Opiumjones 23 (talk) 03:19, 21 January 2008 (UTC)

It is worthwhile and well shot. A real time piece with good interviews with Giorno and Jimmy G.~Plus guided tour of the bunker with Giorno. Thanks for your edits. Opiumjones 23 (talk) 03:23, 21 January 2008 (UTC)

Trigun

Hello again!

I don't actually know much about Trigun, I've only ever seen 1 or 2 episodes. But it seems to me that it might be a little bit of a category-straddler. From the description, it seems to be a "Science fiction Western" that happens to take place on another planet (Gunsmoke), making it by a very literal reading of the definition, happening "in space" thereby a Space Western. A conundrum indeed. I would tend to put it SciFi Western because, as I understand, it doesn't actually deal with space. Yes? - Revolving Bugbear 22:49, 22 January 2008 (UTC)

I will be the first to admit that I know nothing about anime, so all I can go by is the article. This seems to very clearly indicate that it is a sci-fi western, and not a "space" western, per se. Of course, as you say, there is no reason, necessarily, that it cannot be both. I will defer to your knowledge and opinion on this matter, though. Do what you think is best. ---RepublicanJacobiteThe'FortyFive' 22:53, 22 January 2008 (UTC)

I wasn't trying to second-guess your revert. I agree with it, in principle -- the show does have, from what I know of it, what I would consider a "Western setting". I just followed the link over to the article this time because I've seen Trigun pop up on the Space Western list several times now, and I wondered if maybe we weren't maybe missing something on this one. But I would tend to agree with you that the fact that it happens to take place not on earth does not make it a "space" anything. I just wanted to see if you had any thoughts on the matter. If not, then forget I asked ;) - Revolving Bugbear 22:57, 22 January 2008 (UTC)

Don't get me started...

Get the email I sent you earlier? One Night In Hackney₃₀₃ 01:06, 23 January 2008 (UTC)

Hmmm....sent three hours ago. Well anyway, check the first footnote. One Night In Hackney₃₀₃ 01:09, 23 January 2008 (UTC)

I thought you'd enjoy it! Damn those heartless Provo bastards..... One Night In Hackney₃₀₃ 02:30, 23 January 2008 (UTC)

Yeah, it's not like the British Army were shrinking violets either.... One Night In Hackney₃₀₃ 02:37, 23 January 2008 (UTC)

You'd be right on base regardless of what you said. This is all you need to quote under the circumstances, source it or don't bother. One Night In Hackney₃₀₃ 02:58, 23 January 2008 (UTC)

Could have been worse..... One Night In Hackney₃₀₃ 03:03, 23 January 2008 (UTC)

Did you get the last email I sent you? Sent within the last hour? One Night In Hackney₃₀₃ 03:39, 23 January 2008 (UTC)

Thomas Lessman

I see you have voted at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Thomas Lessman. I found three reliable sources that establish notability for Thomas Lessman as a political candidate. Please see the article and afd discussion, and change your recommendation if you desire. TableManners^C·U·T 05:46, 24 January 2008 (UTC)

Haymarket

Hi. I understand why you rm'd the comments, I've explained why I put them back over on my talk page. Thanks for speaking up about this. Gwen Gale (talk) 21:08, 24 January 2008 (UTC)

Flight of the Earls

Thanks, it still needs a bit of tweaking perhaps. Your name RJ covers all the angles...Red Hurley (talk) 21:56, 28 January 2008 (UTC)

Re: Retro-futurism

Thanks for the note! I didn't take offense though, it's reasonable to request sources on these, people do tend to put a lot of questionable examples on the list. Hypnosifl (talk) 17:19, 29 January 2008 (UTC)

List of surrealist films

Yo, I've changed about as much as I'd like to List of surrealist films without removing any content or searching for sources. Feel free to do with it as you like, I'll try and help out later.скоморохъ ^ѧ 05:00, 30 January 2008 (UTC)

Literary Punk Genres

Why'd you undo some of the punk genres listed in literary punk genres? They are just as verifiable as any of the other "genres" on the list. Perhaps the whole article should be removed if editors such as you will be picking and choosing which of the genres they like best to keep in the article. As of now the entire article has no citations or verifiable information, certain preference cannot be given to some genres over others just because of your personal opinion. May I remind you that this is an encyclopedia? --Banime (talk) 20:09, 31 January 2008 (UTC)

Weedpunk

Since you raised your concerns about the Weedpunk article in my talk page, I thought that I should notify you that I have nominated the article for deletion: see Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Weedpunk. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 14:34, 1 February 2008 (UTC)

REVERT!

Are you seriously reverting every edit I'm making!? Timneu22 (talk) 16:17, 3 February 2008 (UTC)

Up for discussion: village pump. Timneu22 (talk) 16:34, 3 February 2008 (UTC)

Your note re the box set

Hi. :) As I said at my talk page, I'm bringing my answer here for indentation reasons. I'll be watchlisting your talk page so we can talk about it more.

I'm answering two question: what else does it need before creation, and what else could be done to it. :) First: probably nothing. Except, as is, you'd want to remove the empty section. You've certainly got plenty enough to qualify as a stub. If it were mine, I'd probably look for a few more reviews just to ensure notability, but I know what a challenge that can be with anything outside of the pop realm.

What else could be done to it:

I'd either move the external link reviews to join the AMG reviews in the infobar or, more likely, yank a few relevant quotes out of them to put into that critical reception section.
Looking at your source, I note that it doesn't say that the album attempts to be blahblah, but that it is. I'd probably revise that opening something like so:

“

Doctors, Professors, Kings and Queens: The Big Ol' Box of New Orleans is the name of a 2004 box set compilation gathering 85 songs representing the music of New Orleans from the 1920s to 2003. Represented on the album are a variety of musical genres, including jazz, R&B and blues, and a number of musicians, mingling noted artists such as Louis Armstrong, Fats Domino, Dr. John and the Neville Brothers with less renowned musicians. In its review, All Music describes the album as a "a traveler's guide to the legendary city's rich musical heritage."^[1]

”

(I reformatted that allmusic reference with the template.)

Here's the nightmare. There should be a credits section. Those are pain with box sets. Just look at all those names! I tend to divide mine between performance & production and put them in columns, like so.
Track listing needs times and composers, which would also be a huge headache, since in the main list at AMG they only offer performers. To find out composers, you have to follow the link for each song. For example, the main page tells us Dr. John performed Iko Iko, but the subpage says who wrote it. On compilation albums, I tend to put that information in a chart, like this one.
In addition to pulling quotes out of the reviews and summarizing the reception, I'd certainly want to talk about the book that comes with it. Those sounds like some pretty remarkable liner notes. :)
Of course, there's the cover & categories.

Anyway, if you want to add any of those things to the article, so much the better. It doesn't absolutely need them to go into article space, though. Without the credits, track listing & composers, the album can only remain at stub status, but a good stub is better than no information at all. --Moonriddengirl ^(talk) 16:03, 5 February 2008 (UTC)

The track times are at AMG. :) You may not actually need to see the book to mention it. There's probably enough information in the reviews to pull that together. Anyway, as I said, it could almost as is for stub status. --Moonriddengirl ^(talk) 23:41, 5 February 2008 (UTC)

No problem

For some reason I never seem to get the level of grief you do from vandals. Must be your tone or something.... One Night In Hackney₃₀₃ 18:31, 7 February 2008 (UTC)

That's probably what he said and him too! One Night In Hackney₃₀₃ 18:38, 7 February 2008 (UTC)

Nice of you to reply on the right page... One Night In Hackney₃₀₃ 18:42, 7 February 2008 (UTC)

Yeah, I know that feeling. Got nothing done over the last week, and don't think I'll get it finished before I go away this weekend either :( One Night In Hackney₃₀₃ 19:02, 7 February 2008 (UTC)

Well I'm having one of my birthday parties (the London leg of the tour....) so I'm hoping so :) One Night In Hackney₃₀₃ 03:31, 8 February 2008 (UTC)

Oh I imagine it'll go well cheers, but I'll suffer for it next week.... One Night In Hackney₃₀₃ 03:44, 8 February 2008 (UTC)

A pint? That's nearly an armful! One Night In Hackney₃₀₃ 03:51, 8 February 2008 (UTC)

I can't believe you've never heard of Tony Hancock!?! One of the great English comedians...that's from a scene where he goes to donate blood, and isn't happy about the amount asked for. One Night In Hackney₃₀₃ 03:55, 8 February 2008 (UTC)

Yeah, I remember all that. There's a good bit about it in my sources, about how the Irish police and army were powerless to stop cross-border smuggling. Then as soon as Mad Cow Disease came along, you couldn't move near the border without tripping over a guard! One Night In Hackney₃₀₃ 04:07, 8 February 2008 (UTC)

Barnstars

If I understood the technology better, I would give you a star for your very interesting userpage and another star for your message to the latest vandal of the Winnipeg General Strike article.

Anytime you are campaigning to be an administrator, or an arbitrator, or President of the USA, or Pope, or other high office, you can count on my vote. Cheers, Wanderer57 (talk) 03:41, 8 February 2008 (UTC)

Your stage name triggered an old story in my mind, which you might enjoy. My mother-in-law was visiting Scotland and went into a tartan shop to buy a scarf as a souvenir. The lady who ran the shop took her tartans seriously and inquired about my mother-in-law's background. She answered by naming several of the various family names in her background, of which one was MacDonald and one was Campbell. The lady answered: "Eeee lassie, how do you live wi' yoursel?"

Wanderer57 (talk) 04:14, 8 February 2008 (UTC)

Re: The Waste Land

Look, I was just trying to help out by adding what knoledge I have on the subject. I was introduced to this poem from the video game I metioned. Compared to the other items on the list, I fail to see why you single me out. Thanks to your ignorance I regret ever shareing with wiki. This will be the last thing I add to this encyclepedia. joe_def —Preceding unsigned comment added by Joe def (talk • contribs) 06:12, 8 February 2008 (UTC)

You and your tone again..... One Night In Hackney₃₀₃ 07:56, 8 February 2008 (UTC)

Dieselpunk

Hey. Thanks for your support on the "Deletion review". I hope at least an AfD discussion will be allowed on the Dieselpunk page, though I fear it may end up being deleted anyway. I'll try to convince them otherwise--any help you may be able to offer would be greatly appreciated. :-) Ottens (talk) 20:11, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

There was no need to jump straight to a deletion review, calling my deletion 'suspicious', especially without contacting me. I would have been happy to restore it to userspace, then we could discuss the matter and decide what was best. J Milburn (talk) 10:11, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

Oh, sorry, that's just common or garden idiocy in my part, I misread your comment. However, talking to me about it would have been better course of action than taking it straight to DRv. However, the outcome is probably going to be the same, so no real harm done, I suppose. J Milburn (talk) 16:00, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

The page has been restored and the article listed for deletion. Just thought I'd let you know in case you hadn't found out yet. Ottens (talk) 22:13, 14 February 2008 (UTC)

Hopefully in a year or so the term will gain further notability and we might be able to get it accepted then. Thanks for your efforts though! Ottens (talk) 18:40, 25 February 2008 (UTC)

Irish Rebellion of 1641

RJ, please don't use the "undo" button to reverse a series of edits just because you have issues with one of them. Sarah777 (talk) 23:21, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

RE: Your userpage

No problem! Glad to help. Cheers, Master of Puppets _{Call me MoP!☺} 04:25, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

May 68

Could you please quote the passage in WP:MOS#Images that supports having a left-aligned lead image? The guideline clearly states that lead images should be right aligned. As far as the "portrait facing" issue goes: 1. the image is not a portrait, it's a poster. 2. no article follows that guideline. If it did, hundreds of bios would have left-aligned lead images. They don't, because it's disruptive to readability. VanTucky 20:10, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

Yes, I've read the paragraph on left vs. right facing portraits. But the image is not a portrait, it's an artist's poster, and there are two people depicted. Only the background one is facing right, so it's not enough to controvert the preferred right alignment. VanTucky 20:26, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

Well, if you feel that strongly about it, I don't care enough at this point to get in to a battle over it. Obviously I still disagree, but the rest of the article needs so much work that images are a tertiary concern at this point. VanTucky 20:40, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

algiers

I'm from Algiers. I have many wonderful memories of the place, although I suspect you're referring principally to Old Algiers / Algiers Point. The Crown & Anchor pub is a great place to hang out there (as you may already know). Last time I was home, the Oakwood Wall (in a less picturesque area) was still only half-open, post-Katrina. Well, it was nice to hear someone give it such a high rating. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Principiawanderlust (talk • contribs) 23:12, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

Wendell Berry query

Thanks; I thought I had got the reference in, but obviously don't have the hang of it. Is it better to use superscript/footnote added to the section or just add below or what. The "Protestant Christian" statement is not referenced either; there are hundreds others not referenced. What are the guidelines or indications when references are warranted (my vote is always) or otherwise required. Phoebe13 (talk) 21:54, 14 February 2008 (UTC)

Ok...I think I figured it out....will add the Aitken book reference and the Temenos reference. I see that the Coomaraswamy & Merton refs are redundant w/ other content, so that needs to stay deleted. My bad. ANOTHER QUESTION: the reference list is inconsistent re. ISBN's. Should they be there as live links? If so, shouldn't they also be in the "books" section? Otherwise, we have a page that has live links to others' books, but not to the subjects' books. If you think this needs to be done, I can practice learning to make links on this. Phoebe13 (talk) 22:44, 14 February 2008 (UTC)

Dieselpunk and notability

Yo hombre, I'd like to help rescue Dieselpunk from deletion, but the sources in the article don't establish its notability at all and I can't find anything appropriate on Google. Did you have anything in mind? скоморохъ 22:09, 14 February 2008 (UTC)

Re:Category:Hacker

I actually intended to clear the category, then delete it. Seems I got distracted in the middle. I will do that now. J Milburn (talk) 23:14, 14 February 2008 (UTC)

Done. Thanks for the note. J Milburn (talk) 23:17, 14 February 2008 (UTC)

Wendell Berry re-do

Hi...I think I got the references added to the material on Berry's religious leanings...can you check over them? Don't know how to add the link to the Temenos Academy, which has a stub started. I will try to add more ISBN's to this this Berry page eventually. Thanks again for your help. Phoebe13 (talk) 20:57, 15 February 2008 (UTC)

Golden Bough/Mass of Saint-Sécaire

Hi, I'm taking the liberty of reinserting the Mass of Saint-Sécaire to the 'See Also' section of The Golden Bough's article. If Force-fire is okay to link from it, then the Mass of Saint-Sécaire certainly should be! :) TCleghorn (talk) 01:02, 16 February 2008 (UTC)

Just noticed your tagging of the Mass article for deletion. Rest assured, improvement and referencing of that were next on my list! What are the proper protocols and so forth when an article's been tagged in this way?TCleghorn (talk) 01:16, 16 February 2008 (UTC)

NICRA

Yeah, there's massive problems with the anon's edit. For example the change to "redrawing of electoral boundaries", neglects to mention exactly why they wanted the electoral boundaries redrawing in the first place - ie gerrymandering. If I get time over the next few days I'll tighten up the sourcing on that article, in particular their demands. One Night In Hackney₃₀₃ 05:55, 16 February 2008 (UTC)

Can't be arsed starting a new section. No problem, don't worry about it. One Night In Hackney₃₀₃ 18:50, 17 February 2008 (UTC)

Berry re-do, redux

Hey, I found a reference for the Protestantism & added that, if you want to 2nd that. It's accurate. Phoebe13 (talk) 23:05, 18 February 2008 (UTC)

re: userpage revert

No prob. I already reported him, as I saw you had issued a "final warning" before he vandalized your page. Whenever I see an IP address change a userpage in Recent Changes, I pounce on it because the only reason I can come up for an IP to edit a userpage without vandalizing it is if the user forgot to sign in. (yes, I came up with that reason through my own experience. *sigh*) J.delanoy ^gabs _adds 01:10, 20 February 2008 (UTC)

and my pathetic typing skills combined with my crappy laptop keyboard made sure that message seemed silly. Oh well... J.delanoy ^gabs _adds 01:11, 20 February 2008 (UTC)

Damn you!

I was just trying to revert that edit to the Rising article myself.... One Night In Hackney₃₀₃ 18:07, 20 February 2008 (UTC)

I was busy making sure 30 April was correct, and Con Colbert would definitely agree. One Night In Hackney₃₀₃ 18:11, 20 February 2008 (UTC)

Luckily that's one bit of American TV that hasn't been inflicted on us over here yet..... One Night In Hackney₃₀₃ 18:16, 20 February 2008 (UTC)

I'm just going by the law of averages. The vast majority of stuff that gets exported here tends to be shockingly bad. One Night In Hackney₃₀₃ 18:21, 20 February 2008 (UTC)

Guess that makes us even then? One Night In Hackney₃₀₃ 16:17, 22 February 2008 (UTC)

The vanity hunter strikes again.... One Night In Hackney₃₀₃ 16:20, 22 February 2008 (UTC)

You're assuming far more good faith than me, I'm assuming he is the guy... One Night In Hackney₃₀₃ 16:36, 22 February 2008 (UTC)

If you haven't looked back through the history of the article, you'll find this section rather amusing probably? One Night In Hackney₃₀₃ 16:40, 22 February 2008 (UTC)

hunter thompson

i'm not arguing with you about removing the socialist cat, but doesn't it say it right in the article that he espoused a mix of libertarian, anarchist, and socialist views, and that he was pictured on several occasions wearing a che guevara t-shirt, not to mention his support for the 60s counterculture movement? 80.42.7.111 (talk) 03:55, 24 February 2008 (UTC)

Yeats

I'm sure a nice infobox would solve those TOC and image problems :) One Night In Hackney₃₀₃ 18:27, 24 February 2008 (UTC)

Only trying to make a helpful, constructive suggestion - why, is there some sort of problem with it? One Night In Hackney₃₀₃ 19:17, 24 February 2008 (UTC)

Oh, has it been discussed before? One Night In Hackney₃₀₃ 19:25, 24 February 2008 (UTC)

I suppose I'd better drop the act seeing as the old discussion is still on my talk page.... One Night In Hackney₃₀₃ 19:31, 24 February 2008 (UTC)

3RR

Please refrain from undoing other people's edits repeatedly. If you continue, you may be blocked from editing Wikipedia. Note that the three-revert rule prohibits making more than three reversions in a content dispute within a 24 hour period. Additionally, users who perform a large number of reversions in content disputes may be blocked for edit warring, even if they do not technically violate the three-revert rule. Rather than reverting, discuss disputed changes on the talk page. The revision you want is not going to be implemented by edit warring. Thank you. Codeine (talk) 01:42, 25 February 2008 (UTC)

Massurrealism

I've added some concerns to the article talk page. It might be worth contacting LAgurl. They have made some edits to the article and may know more about the movement. --Ethicoaestheticist (talk) 20:06, 29 February 2008 (UTC)