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[edit] He has a BEARD!!! HELP ME!!!

bond never had a beard, so get lost!!!! SHOW A SLEEK 007 PIC!!! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ultraussie (talk • contribs) 08:52, 14 April 2008 (UTC)


[edit] Other Movies

Needs some more info on his other movies - while the list is there there's no mention of any of his other films.

And nothing about Don't Talk to Strangers from 1994. -- Darklock 17:16, 27 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Shogun?

I'm not 100% sure, but wasn't Pierce Brosnan in some TV miniseries set in Hong Kong? Called "Shogun"? Some adaptation of a series of books by an american or british author? If so, why no mention of it on this page?

edit: Sorry, not Shogun. Noble House was what I was looking for.

[edit] Remington Steele

  • needs checking, but IIRC he was on the shortlist for Bond when Dalton got it, but was locked into Remington Steele.
    • I think he was actually announced as having the part but then Remington Steelegot was unexpectedly revived and a clause in his contract locked him in.
      • The article is correct as of today. Only after he was officially announced for Bond did NBC see fit to renew the television show and enforce his contract. --Dhartung | Talk 10:09, 29 Nov 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Accent?

Should something be said on his accent? In the Bond films he talks a mix of RP/irish/american...

[edit] Birthplace:Navan

Peirce was born in Navan, so I'll change it if no one minds. Fergananim

No, according to his official webiste he was born in "Drogheda, County Louth, Ireland". See [1]. K1Bond007 01:15, July 14, 2005 (UTC)


It is actually wrong. Drogheda is partially in Meath and partially in Louth. The hospital in which he was born is in the County Meath part (by a couple of metres! I was born there too so I know the location). People often forget that Drogheda straddles two counties, so I've removed the County Louth bit. It is also irrelevant. Navan people, and people from most of Meath are all born in that hospital. There is no maternity hospital in Meath other than that one (that is only in Meath by a few metres) but in a town often (wrongly) said to be in County Louth alone. So the country location of the Our Lady's Hospital is irrelevant. He is a Navanman. Like all Navan people he simply couldn't be technically born there and his mother went to OLH to give birth, then came back to Navan afterwards. FearÉIREANN\(caint) 01:22, 14 July 2005 (UTC)


Lourdes hospital is firmly in the Louth part of Drogheda. Trust me, I live in the meath part and although im not sure where the border is exactly I know that everywhere in the town on the northside of the Boyne is in Louth. However I think that the addition of his exact birthplace is pointless.

Wrong hospital. His official website says "1953 -- May 16th – Pierce Brendan Brosnan born at St. Mary’s Hospital, Drogheda, County Louth, Ireland." K1Bond007 18:55, 25 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Timothy Dalton

I've made some changes to the article that hopefully are non-controversial. These are on the Dalton films where there's evidence of different editors pulling different ways; i.e. someone says "Dalton's films flopped" and someone else adds "but they did OK in Europe". Or someoen says "the Dalton films were unsuccessful" and someone else adds "but critically acclaimed", etc... I've tried to simplify this because The Living Daylights wasn't unsuccessful it was a worldwide smash and was a big hit in the US. Licence to Kill was a hit, I think even in the States, but for a Bond film its US returns were disappointing. However, this is relative and it isn't the same thing as being commercially unsuccessful. I've also removed the bit about Dalton's films being critically acclaimed. I think this is someone, again, trying to balance things up, but although The Living Daylights was well-received Licence to Kill got very mixed reviews. This is also, of course, an article on Brosnan so we don't need to go on about the Dalton films more than is really necessary for context. JW 20:55, 19 July 2005 (UTC)

"Licence to Kill" got 80% good reviews from preview audiences and only did disappointingly due to a poor marketing campaign in the States. Dalton remains the best actor to play Bond, with his RADA training and experience in Shakespeare, and he is unquestionably the most accurate 007 in relation to the novels.

[edit] Anglo-Irish to Irish

The introduction stated that Pierce is an "Anglo-Irish actor". I changed it to "Irish" as I don't understand why he should be called anything else. He lived in London between the ages of 11 to 32, and is currently a US citizen, but I have never heard him refer to himself as anything other than Irish. Cheers. Fergananim 09:23, 28 September 2005 (UTC)

I'm also taking out the 'American' in the introduction stating him as 'Irish-American'. Many foreign actors live in America to further their career, that does not mean however they become American. He's Irish, nothing more, nothing less. Cobine 21:49, 15 September 2007 (UTC)

Pierce Brosnan is Irish, so it boggles me that somebody keeps refering him as Irish-American in this page. Users have been called vandals for making this simple factual change. I will change it back and if a user does not believe this to be justified, the may check the defenition of Irish American, which is "citizens of the United States who can claim ancestry originating in the west European island of Ireland." If anything at all it could be mentioned that he is Irish, and holds Dual Irish and US citizenship. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 91.142.98.11 (talk) 19:41, 15 November 2007 (UTC)

I'll bet if he was a terrorist there wouldn't be any attempt to make him Anglo or American!! Now that I'm here may I add the new photo is c**p; the old one was very nice. Why change it? (Sarah777 23:12, 15 September 2007 (UTC))
He doesn't simply live in the United States, he is an American citizen. Please see WP:MOSBIO, which dictates that a person's country of citizenship should be stated in their introductory paragraph - The opening paragraph should give:: Nationality (In the normal case this will mean the country of which the person is a citizen or national, or was a citizen when the person became notable. Ethnicity should generally not be emphasized in the opening unless it is relevant to the subject's notability.). I did not remove the "Irish" part because he did indeed become notable while an Irish citizen, thus fulfilling part of the outlined criteria. However, his current country of citizenship should be stated in the opening. All Hallow's Wraith 08:54, 24 September 2007 (UTC)
The trouble with "Irish-American" is that it is normally used for people born in the United States who are of Irish ancestry rather than Irish people who have immigrated and taken up citizenship. It is not necessarily inaccurate to call Brosnan an Irish-American but I think it would tend to mislead people. In this article, the reader can look at the text and see exactly what is meant by "Irish-American" in this particular case: but if Pierce Brosnan is ever referred to as an Irish-American without an accompanying explanation, most people will take this to mean that he is American-born. "Irish-born American citizen" or simply "Irish-born American" would remove any ambiguity. Conval 22:14, 25 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Year range as Bond

The Bond chart at the bottom says Brosnan was Bond until 2002. I believe it should actually say either 2003 or 2004 as he played the role one last time in the videogame Everything or Nothing. 23skidoo 12:37, 14 October 2005 (UTC)

I disagree only because I think we should limit it to the films. If we include video games then we have to squeeze in Sean Connery for the latest release and that would be just "messed up" to consider. And then we might have to evaluate Never Say Never Again too. Too confusing. Keep it official. Keep it films. My opinion anyway. K1Bond007 13:13, 14 October 2005 (UTC)

Yeah, I mean Sir Sean Connery is apparently providing the voice for the video game version of "From Russia with Love", so using that logic one could say Connery played the role of James Bond until 2005!

[edit] Cubby Broccoli

"A number of actors were then screentested for the role, notably Sam Neill, but ultimately were passed over by Cubby Broccoli."

Is that a typo? I've never heard of anyone named Cubby Broccoli.

Broccoli was the producer of the James Bond films starting from Dr. No - Licence to Kill (although he had a major impact on GoldenEye and probably Tomorrow Never Dies too). Cubby is his well-known nickname. See Albert R. Broccoli. K1Bond007 04:27, 25 October 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Real birthdate

Is there any way of determining whether Brosnan was born in 1953, as he claims, or 1951 as many sources say?

His website says 1953. I think we should go with that. K1Bond007 18:55, 25 May 2006 (UTC)

The National Records say he was born in 1951. Also Halliwell's Who's Who in the Movies (2006 edition) says 1951. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 195.93.21.129 (talk • contribs) .

As stated his website says 1953. From everything I've read he himself has said he was born in 1953 over and over. Contrary to what was posted in an edit summary, his own birth certificate is actually available for purchase online (at various times on eBay) and it says 1953. The certificate was actually posted online by his agent, however, it appears to have been taken down. I suppose if we want to be really thorough about this we can have some sort of carbon dating done :P K1Bond007 19:41, 13 July 2006 (UTC)
Have you actually seen this National Record saying 1951? If so please find a way to cite this so that all readers can see for verifiability. Searching on this I can't find anything to back up your claim other than a couple websites that asset it's 1951 without any source or discussion. First you said it was the birth certificate, but I now know that's false. K1Bond007 19:13, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

So Brosnan gets his agent to put out some fake birth certificate to make people think he isn't too old to keep playing Bond? Wow, what hard evidience. And yes, I have been to the National Records Office in London where I looked Brosnan up - and he was born in 1951. Not surprising that he lied about his age, so did Lazenby (born 1933, claimed 1939) and Dalton (born 1944, claimed 1946).

  • What would Brosnan's birth certificate be doing in the National Records Office in London, seeing as how he was born in the Republic of Ireland? And if it wasn't his birth cert you saw, then precisely which document did you see with the year "1951" on it? Demiurge 20:17, 19 August 2006 (UTC)

It was his NHS and Social Security records from the 1970s.

  • I'm pretty certain people's NHS and Social Security records (even those of celebrities) aren't available for public viewing, so while you may indeed be correct, this claim is unverifiable. Demiurge 15:32, 31 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Pierce Brosnan left the role on his own free will.

http://www.ew.com/ew/report/0,6115,673018_10_0_,00.html

[edit] Aquascutum

Pierce Brosnan, is the face of aquascutum. I think that should be included.

see their website: www.aquascutum.co.uk for more info.

This is Dorian Gray 21:38, 15 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Good Article Nomination

This article if very close to getting GA status. The references are clear and in my opinion, they are reliable. It's well written and contains a reasonably broad overview of Brosnan's life. However, to comply with GA standards, all of the images, if not free, must have detailed fair use rationales, and some of the images in this article do not. Therefore, I'm putting this on hold for a short amount of time until these images are tagged properly. Otherwise, good work.

GA review (see here for criteria)
  1. It is reasonably well written.
    a (prose): b (MoS):
  2. It is factually accurate and verifiable.
    a (references): b (citations to reliable sources): c (OR):
  3. It is broad in its coverage.
    a (major aspects): b (focused):
  4. It follows the neutral point of view policy.
    Fair representation without bias: [[Image:|15px]]
  5. It is stable.
    No edit wars etc.:
  6. It contains images, where possible, to illustrate the topic.
    a (tagged and captioned): b (enough images: lack of images does not in itself exclude GA): c (non-free images have fair use rationales):
  7. Overall:
    Pass/Fail: [[Image:|15px]]

Smomo 18:24, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

As the images have now been tagged, I am happy to pass this article as a Good Article. For things to improve, I think more information about him as a person and his personal life is needed. Along as content added stays up to standard and includes proper citations, you are well on the way to FA. Take a look at some other FAs and compare them to this. Smomo 18:07, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Goldeneye-Not the fourth most selling Bond of all time.

Can someone please remove this from his biography?

http://k1bond007.shackspace.com/James%20Bond/Statistics/world_admissions.png

Here's the most selling with inflation. 01. Dr. No (1962) - $384,662,260 02. From Russia with Love (1963) - $503,238,732 03. Goldfinger (1964) - $786,109,249 04. Thunderball (1965) - $873,775,665 05. You Only Live Twice (1967) - $652,559,281 06. On Her Majesty's Secret Service (1969) - $465,481,865 07. Diamonds Are Forever (1971) - $559,239,693 08. Live and Let Die (1973) - $710,900,787 09. The Man with the Golden gun (1974) - $386,403,405 10. The Spy Who Loved Me (1977) - $597,403,398 11. Moonraker (1979) - $565,980,043 12. For Your Eyes Only (1981) - $419,466,512 13. Octopussy (1983) - $367,658,132 14. A View to a Kill (1985) - $276,614,498 15. The Living Daylights (1987) - $328,709,154 16. Licence to Kill (1989) - $246,015,000 17. Goldeneye (1995) - $450,445,866 18. Tomorrow Never Dies (1997) - $405,215,336 19. The World is not Enough (1999) - $424,164,872 20. Die Another Day (2002) - $468,949,188 21) Casino Royale (without inflation 2006) - $593,597,723 —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Sam Leo Fisher (talk • contribs) 02:45, 14 March 2007 (UTC).

The article doesn't state that it's the fourth highest-selling Bond movie, but rather, "the 4th highest worldwide gross of any film in 1995". The citation,[2], backs the statement up. -- Britishagent 21:20, 15 March 2007 (UTC)


[edit] Quote

Just wondering why somebody removed this quote? The guy was actually thinking he was going to do two more Bond films (while promoting his "last")....he never did another one and a rather public fallout took-place between him and the producers of a film series that had dominated his life. So its going back in!! Whataboutbob 16:47, 29 June 2007 (UTC)

“ I'd like to do another, sure. Connery did six. Six would be a number, then never come back. ”

—Brosnan, on continuing playing James Bond, during promotion for Die Another Day.[1]
Supposedly it didn't add to the article. I'm with you, it describes Brosnan's prospects of continuing the role, despite his comments on the Die Another Day commentary.—My Name Is URL 18:10, 29 June 2007 (UTC)
Incorrect. Purvis and Wade began writing a fifth film with Brosnan in the role in 2004. - My Name Is URL 17:47, 11 October 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] GA Sweeps (Pass)

This article has been reviewed as part of Wikipedia:WikiProject Good articles/Project quality task force. I believe the article currently meets the criteria and should remain listed as a Good article. The article history has been updated to reflect this review. I have commented out two uncited facts, but they may be reinserted if citations are found. I also expanded the lead a bit, but it could probably use a little work per WP:LEAD regarding its level of detail and summary. Cheers, CP 23:56, 19 January 2008 (UTC)