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why would you give myrrh to a baby no matter how rare or exdpensive it is. i was just browsing through some chrismas carrols and foung we three kings. the other kings bring normal gifts like gold to crown him and francincense to worship him with but the king who brings myrrh is a depressing king cause it seem that the only reason to bring myrrh is to be prepared for the death of someone very important.

  • well, it smells nice... W guice 21:00, 20 August 2006 (UTC)
There were not three kings. There were three gifts, there is no word of how many wise men (not 'kings') there were. J Milburn 18:52, 21 November 2006 (UTC)

Reply on 3 Jan 2006 It is strange to give a baby Myrrh. In fact, the latest Simpson's Christmas special made fun of this. The wiseman said he was "...re-gifting, because who wants Myrrh?" This could be foreshadowing of the death of Jesus, or accenting his destiny. See also Mark 15:23 and John 19:39 where Jesus is offered water mixed with myrrh while hanging on the cross and is wrapped with aloe, myrrh and linens and placed in the tomb, respectively. It seems that the point Matthew is making (from whence the Christmas Carol is derived) is that this baby, this supposed king was born to die.

Does anyone know if Myrrh has any symbolic qualities other than death? ThePeg 2006

The traditional explanation is that the Gold symbolized that He was the King, the Frankincense that he was to be worshiped, and the Myrrh that he was to die. Myrrh symbolized death then as much as a casket does now. I wish I could find a source. Reid 15:42, 23 October 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] A Disambig page is needed

There is also Myrrh Records. Furthermore, some users may misspell the name like I did and get Myrhh. Will (Talk - contribs) 21:51, 18 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Myrrh was a popular medicinal in anchient times, and has been proven by modern research to be an effective antibiotic

I am suprised that no references exist on this wiki about the medicinal properties of myrrh. Research I found some time around 2004 on the web showed wide interest past and present. Many references were available referring to anchient knowledge of medicinal properties, even citing this being the reason for its value. Several modern university studies showed myrrh is an effective antibiotic against many types of infection. There were also many more unsubstantiated claims for myrrh, which you can see if you visit any health food site that sells it. I use myrrh for sinus infections and twice for an oral infection (abcess) with seemingly excellent results. One research I read indicated their opinion that using myrrh did not lower the body's reaction to other antibiotics, but I don't know if I beleive that claim. Dosages I had read were 2 tablets 3 times daily, or more. One research had toxicity tests and said there was not an overdose amount. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 68.104.233.132 (talk) 00:16, 7 December 2006 (UTC).

[edit] Nero

Exactly how much Myrrh is "a year's worth"? Can someone who actually knows where that reference comes from clarify it? FiggyBee 19:50, 8 December 2006 (UTC)

All right. I know where it comes from (I think). I'll check it. Andrew Dalby 20:32, 8 December 2006 (UTC)

It's not Tacitus, who just says "Her body was not consumed by fire according to Roman usage, but after the custom of foreign princes was filled with fragrant spices and embalmed, and then consigned to the sepulchre of the Julii." The Annals, Book XVI 63.82.5.2 01:38, 15 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Dependable citation?

I understand this text of the article is cited but it sounds like pseudoscience to me.

Myrrh is more blood-moving, while frankincense tends to move the qi more, and is better for arthritic conditions. Myrrh is one of the most effective of all known disinfectants. It increases circulation, heart rate and power. It is useful for amenorrhea, dysmenorrhea, menopause and uterine tumors, as it: purges what in Chinese medicine is known as stagnant blood out of the uterus. Myrrh is good for many chronic diseases, including obesity and diabetes. It helps toothache pain applied externally. An excellent liniment for bruises, aches and sprains is made from a combination of myrrh, golden seal and cayenne, macerated in rubbing alcohol for about two weeks. Combined with peach seeds and safflower, myrrh is good for stomatitis, gingivitis and laryngitis.[1]

Is any of this part of a study, I thought qi was a mystical thing, not scientific? Ozone 04:12, 31 May 2007 (UTC)

  • I think the idea is to relate the use of the herb in Chinese medicine, I don't see any claim or endorsement that the product works in such fashion. All I see is the regurgitated doctrine which should be in line with the guidelines. Dingodog99 09:47, 12 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] One of the true elixirs.

Why was Myrrh valued more than Gold in the days of Antiquity? My father had a bleeding black mole on the back of his ear. In 40 days and 40 nights I applied a myrrh tincture causing the mole to disappear. It has been 6 years and no return of the mole. I applied myrrh to a toothache causing it to relieve the pain and never to return. I healed a burned kitten using myrrh. I dissolved canker sores using myrrh overnight. If Myrrh is applied as as embalmer for the dead then what does it do to living flesh? What would all three magi gifts do to living flesh or to immortality? The fountain of youth perhaps. Want to get rid of HIV? Use Myrrh. Dissolve your skin cancer? use Myrrh. Want to grow a Myrrh tree in your yard...good luck in finding one. It is a strange world we live in especially as a democracy when we take synthetic investor garbage that blind the truth and deteriorate our bodies slowly while giving temporary relief, giving investors their pools and nice automobiles, while the true elixirs provided by God and shown to us through Christ are hidden by those who control the world for the sake of Invention. Curiosity killed the cat. This is just a discussion. It's on my mind this Christmas day. I am going home to a family I once knew. My dads popping heart pills and diabetic pills as well as my mom then eating bacon and mayonnaise. My sister, once strong, fit, and independent is popping her Prozac and devoured by the institutions of life. She has gained weight and lost the sprite of her independence, trapped in a synthetic existence. I advised her to take Frankincense for her mind but her Christian beliefs advise against it. Huh? There is an evil present and if there was ever a time for the return of Christ, it is now and I seriously doubt the words "Forgive them Father, for they know not what they do" will be used as the sword is swung swiftly and exact. I am sure this discussion will be deleted as my first one was. That's a Democracy. Happy Voting. Look out China! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.131.161.139 (talk) 18:40, 25 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] One of the true elixirs.

Why was Myrrh valued more than Gold in the days of Antiquity? My father had a bleeding black mole on the back of his ear. In 40 days and 40 nights I applied a myrrh tincture causing the mole to disappear. It has been 6 years and no return of the mole. I applied myrrh to a toothache causing it to relieve the pain and never to return. I healed a burned kitten using myrrh. I dissolved canker sores using myrrh overnight. If Myrrh is applied as as embalmer for the dead then what does it do to living flesh? What would all three magi gifts do to living flesh or to immortality? The fountain of youth perhaps. Want to get rid of HIV? Use Myrrh. Dissolve your skin cancer? use Myrrh. Want to grow a Myrrh tree in your yard...good luck in finding one. It is a strange world we live in especially as a democracy when we take synthetic investor garbage that blind the truth and deteriorate our bodies slowly while giving temporary relief, giving investors their pools and nice automobiles, while the true elixirs provided by God and shown to us through Christ are hidden by those who control the world for the sake of Invention. Curiosity killed the cat. This is just a discussion. It's on my mind this Christmas day. I am going home to a family I once knew. My dads popping heart pills and diabetic pills as well as my mom then eating bacon and mayonnaise. My sister, once strong, fit, and independent is popping her Prozac and devoured by the institutions of life. She has gained weight and lost the sprite of her independence, trapped in a synthetic existence. I advised her to take Frankincense for her mind but her Christian beliefs advise against it. Huh? There is an evil present and if there was ever a time for the return of Christ, it is now and I seriously doubt the words "Forgive them Father, for they know not what they do" will be used as the sword is swung swiftly and exact. I am sure this discussion will be deleted as my first one was. That's a Democracy. Happy Voting. Look out China! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.131.161.139 (talk) 19:06, 25 December 2007 (UTC)